Dr. Josh Bongard is a Professor of Computer Science at the University of Vermont, and director of the Morphology, Evolution & Cognition Laboratory. His groundbreaking work is centered around using AI to design novel organisms, pushing the boundaries and blurring the lines between robotics and biology. We take a deep dive into the fascinating world of Xenobots, programmable bio-hybrid organisms that have the potential to revolutionize everything from regenerative medicine to scientific research itself. As we explore this emerging world, our conversation also touches upon the many nuances of intelligence, and we discuss the different interpretations and manifestations of intelligence, as well as whether physical bodies are a prerequisite for its emergence. So please, join us as we delve into the confluence of AI, biology, and robotics to try and better understand the future of intelligence and the potential of these groundbreaking technologies.