Hannah Storm and John Crowley speak with Marianna Spring, the BBC’s first specialist disinformation reporter. Speaking candidly and compassionately, Marianna shares her insights into the impact of conspiracy theories and online falsehoods on those whose stories she shares, and explains the importance of empathy in her work. This conversation offers an important insight into how issues of journalism safety are no longer limited to physical environments, and how the toll of online harm has an impact on journalists’ mental health too - and is an  issue we need to speak about more openly.