M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy

Kaia Evolutions

New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.

M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a podcast that goes behind the scenes of the dance world. In a realm often portrayed as glamorous and perfect, we share candid stories that show the highs, lows, and dedication of dancers and movement artists from all backgrounds. Our mission is to normalize their experiences, challenge stereotypes, and illuminate diverse paths. Each episode provides a safe space for personal anecdotes, struggles, and pivotal moments, aiming to widen the understanding of dance. Join us as we break free from scripted narratives and reveal the true heart and soul of this art form.

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S2 E17 Nora Schell: Because we can impact the rooms we are in.
6d ago
S2 E17 Nora Schell: Because we can impact the rooms we are in.
Send us a textGuest: Nora SchellActor / Singer / SongwriterIn this interview episode, we speak with Nora on navigating the complexities of the arts industry discussing their experiences with mental health, body positivity, and the importance of community support. The conversation delves into the challenges of being a performer, the role of advocacy in the arts, and the impact of negative feedback on self-esteem. Nora emphasizes the need for change within the industry and the importance of creating safe spaces for artists. They share the impact of their medical challenges on their career and the need for support and solidarity amongst their colleagues. Experiences with toxic education in the performing arts and the challenges of advocating for oneself in a high-pressure environment are touched on as well as the importance of kindness and growth in the industry, the privilege of being an educator and the responsibility that comes with it. Nora (they/them) graduated from The University of Michigan with a BFA in Musical Theatre and a minor in Gender, Race and Nation. They received Drama Desk, Drama League and Clive Barnes Award nominations for their Off-Broadway debut in SPAMILTON. Nora made their Broadway debut in JAGGED LITTLE PILL. They were most recently seen Off-Broadway playing Bustopher Jones in CATS: THE JELLICLE BALL. Nora will be performing all original music at the Perelman Center's Lobby Stage on November 2nd. Nora continues to cultivate a career focused on the intersection of performing and social justice. Love to Gregg Baker Management and their family.Follow / Resources / Mentions:IG: @noraschellmusicNora’s Statement I PCOS I NAMI I Spamilton I Cats: “The Jellicle Ball” I Bipolar 2 Disorder I Borderline Personality Disorder I Drama Desk Awards I Drama League Awards I Clive Barnes Foundation I Bryan PerriSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E16 Injury Mini Series: Part 1 - So, how can we prevent injury?
Oct 23 2024
S2 E16 Injury Mini Series: Part 1 - So, how can we prevent injury?
Send us a textPART 1: This conversation delves into the complexities of injury prevention within the dance industry. The hosts discuss the high prevalence of injuries, the impact of collective trauma, and the importance of understanding both physical and emotional aspects of injury. They emphasize the need for a holistic approach to injury prevention, including awareness of muscle engagement, the role of touch in learning, and the significance of mindfulness in movement practices. The discussion also highlights the differences between chronic and acute injuries and the necessity of adapting teaching methods to individual body patterns. In this conversation, Eileen and Amy touch on the intricate relationship between body mechanics, self-perception, and the importance of proper training in dance; emphasizing the need for dancers to understand their unique body patterns, the significance of warm-ups, hydration, and breath awareness, and the role of mobility and joint training in preventing injuries. This episode encourages curiosity and self-discovery, highlighting that the process of learning and understanding one's body is as crucial as the end product in dance training.This is a Two Part Episode.Part 1: Episode 16 on 10.23.24Part 2: Episode 18 on 11.6.24Resources / Mentions:Episode 16 & 18 SlideshowJordan Eagle EpisodeLisa Long EpisodeLaban / Bartenieff Movement SystemSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E15 Jordan Eagle: Because the only way is through.
Oct 16 2024
S2 E15 Jordan Eagle: Because the only way is through.
Send us a textGuest: Jordan EaglePerformerIn this interview episode, Eileen and Amy interview Jordan Eagle, a multifaceted performer and photographer. They discuss Jordan's journey in the arts, the pressures of identity within the performance industry, and the importance of community and storytelling. Jordan shares her journey with photography, her inspirations, and the nuances of supporting artists. The conversation also touches on the realities of being a performer, the challenges of navigating the industry, and the benefits of cross-training for physical well-being. In this conversation, there is an emphasis on the significance of rest and cross-training for dancers and the importance of both mobility and flexibility. Jordan shares her personal experiences with weightlifting, injury recovery, and the psychological impacts of being a dancer. The discussion also highlights the need for a supportive community and the normalization of comebacks in the dance industry, as well as the importance of understanding one's identity beyond physical capabilities.Jordan (she/her) is a musical theatre performer based in NYC. She has a degree in dance performance and choreography as well as Creative Writing. Over the years Jordan has performed regionally and in NYC cabaret clubs, taught dance and voice, and run her own photography business. Jordan currently works as a copywriter for Dancers Who Lift, a company dedicated to educating and empowering dancers in their nutritional and cross-training journeys.Follow / Learn More / Mentions:IG: @jordan.anne.eagle / @j.eaglephotographyTikTok: @jordan_anne_eagleWebsite: https://jeaglephotography.com/Avalon Artists GroupGavin CreelEnneagram TestMims Method Physical TherapyHSS - Jordan’s SurgeonsMary Linda GrahamSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E14 Creative Process Mini Series: What is your choreographic process?
Oct 9 2024
S2 E14 Creative Process Mini Series: What is your choreographic process?
Send us a textIn this conversation, Eileen and Amy delve into the intricacies of the creative process, particularly in choreography. They explore the nuances of how choreographers and dancers interact, the steps involved in creating a dance piece, and the emotional responses that drive artistic expression. The discussion highlights the challenges faced in collaboration, the importance of inspiration, and the ever-evolving nature of creativity in the dance industry. This episode emphasizes the importance of understanding dancer needs, the role of breaks, and the collaborative nature of creating movement. They also examine various sources of inspiration, the significance of artistic intent, and the necessity of clear communication in rehearsals; delving into the importance of breath in movement and the overarching goal of restoring humanity within the dance process.Resources / Mentions:Episode 14 SlideshowCrystal PiteHortonGrahamSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E13 Alice Robb: Because dance doesn’t always love you back.
Oct 2 2024
S2 E13 Alice Robb: Because dance doesn’t always love you back.
Send us a textGuest: Alice RobbWriterIn this engaging conversation, Eileen and Amy interview Alice Robb, author of 'Don't Think, Dear: On Loving and Leaving Ballet', exploring her journey from the ballet world to becoming a writer. They discuss the emotional complexities of loving ballet, the impact of dreams (in regards to her first book), and the importance of curiosity, especially as we learn. Alice shares her insights on body image, the need for change in ballet training, and how writing this book has allowed her to illuminate problematic themes that have influenced how some readers approach teaching dance moving forward. The conversation highlights the significance of inclusivity, the need for disruption and the acknowledgement of diverse paths within the dance world.Alice (she/her) is the author of two non-fiction books: Why We Dream (Picador 2019), which was translated into fifteen foreign languages, and Don't Think, Dear: On Loving and Leaving Ballet (HarperCollins 2023), which has been called “devastating” (New York Times); “beautiful, difficult, and compelling” (Vanity Fair); “nuanced, intimate” (Guardian); “enlightening, perceptive” (Wall Street Journal).  Don't Think, Dear uses her childhood at the School of American Ballet as a jumping-off point for an exploration of femininity, beauty, pain, the body, and ballet’s place in the modern world.Her journalism and essays have appeared in Vogue, Vanity Fair, the Washington Post, the Guardian, the New Statesman, the Financial Times, the Times Literary Supplement and elsewhere.Follow / Learn More / Mentions:IG: @alicelrobb Website: https://alicerobb.com/ Don’t Think Dear: On Loving and Leaving BalletWhy We Dream: The Transformative Power of Our Nightly JourneySharon EyalBatsheva Dance CompanyGagaHortonABT & SABSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E12 Ageism Mini Series: How does ageism show up in the dance world?
Sep 4 2024
S2 E12 Ageism Mini Series: How does ageism show up in the dance world?
Send us a textIn this episode, Eileen and Amy discuss ageism in the dance industry. They share personal experiences and observations of how age is weaponized and how dancers are expected to retire at a young age. They explore the implicit age limits in auditions and the pressure to prove oneself before reaching a certain age emphasizing the importance of staying in the industry and advocating for older dancers to challenge ageist norms. This episode highlights the challenges of being an older dancer in a field dominated by younger performers and the lack of acceptance and opportunities for older dancers, the pressure to conform to societal expectations, and the impact of ageism on career prospects. They also highlight the importance of challenging these norms and creating a more inclusive and supportive environment for dancers of all ages.Resources:Episode 12 SlideshowSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E11 Delaney Charlotte Burke: Because you’re not behind.
Aug 28 2024
S2 E11 Delaney Charlotte Burke: Because you’re not behind.
Send us a textGuest: Delaney Charlotte BurkeMovement Artist / StorytellerIn this interview episode, Delaney shares her journey in the performing arts, from shifting into a triple threat to finding her passion for dance. She discusses the challenges of training in a traditional dance program and the pressure to fit into codified techniques; emphasizing the importance of artistic expression and individuality in dance, and the need for more fusion and diversity in the industry. She also opens up about the constant feeling of needing to prove herself and catch up, but acknowledges the value of her unique path and the importance of self-motivation. In this conversation, Delaney, Eileen and Amy discuss the importance of valuing artists' time and the need to move away from mentorship that makes one feel less than what they have to offer. Delaney also shares her journey of dealing with knee injuries and the psychological and emotional challenges that come with it, recognizing the need for more support and understanding for dancers going through injuries and the importance of educating dancers about their bodies.Delaney (she/her) started dancing as a freshman in High School because of her love and passion for Theatre. She began to take it seriously because she knew she wanted to pursue it professionally by the time she was a sophomore. She furthered her studies at DeSales University where she was a Dual Major in Theatre and Dance. After college, Delaney started working professionally in her field. Her favorite credits include Mamma Mia (Mom Understudy), Godspell (Uzo Track) and Matilda (Swing). She is also in a contemporary Storytelling company, Thistle Dance. She continues to audition in person in NYC and take class under some of the greats at Steps on Broadway and Broadway Dance Center in all styles. She has promised to continue to stick her nose to the grindstone to make her dreams a reality.Follow / Learn More / Mentions:IG: @delaneycharlotteburkeWhat is a Saturn Return?Dr. Donald RoseWords That Move Me with Dana Wilson PodcastNo End, Only More (next group 9/3)Activation Warning: This episode contains sensitive topics including medical and surgical references. Please take care of your body.Support the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E10 Disordered Eating Mini Series: What fuels disordered eating?
Aug 21 2024
S2 E10 Disordered Eating Mini Series: What fuels disordered eating?
Send us a textIn this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy discuss the topic of disordered eating. They provide definitions and distinctions between disordered eating, intuitive eating, and eating disorders. They share their personal experiences with disordered eating and how it has evolved over time. The conversation also touches on the influence of societal and cultural factors on eating behaviors, as well as the prevalence of eating disorders in the dance and aesthetic sports industries. Eileen and Amy go on to discuss the transition from disordered eating to eating disorders and the coping mechanisms involved; exploring the connection between control, trauma, and body image, highlighting the impact of societal beauty standards. They also discuss the prevalence of eating disorders among athletes and the role of shame and secrecy in perpetuating these disorders. This episode emphasizes the importance of recognizing and addressing the underlying pain and trauma that contribute to disordered eating and how the dance world is a prime environment for food to be used as a coping mechanism to manage bodily autonomy, control and a sense of empowerment or sovereignty within a dancing body.Resources:Episode 10 SlideshowActivation Warning: This episode contains sensitive topics including eating disorders, abuse and self harm. Please take care of your body.Support the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E9 Liza Little: Because being an artist shapes the way you see the world.
Aug 14 2024
S2 E9 Liza Little: Because being an artist shapes the way you see the world.
Send us a textGuest: Liza LittleSculptorIn this interview episode, Eileen and Amy discuss Liza's journey from being a dancer to becoming a sculptor as well as the intersection of art and science, the importance of curiosity, and the challenges of the audition world. Liza shares her motivation to understand the self-image and the human body through sculpture and emphasizes the need for artists to step outside of their bubble and connect with the world around them. In this conversation, they also discuss how dance and sculpture meet, the importance of history and tradition in art, and the role of cross-training in their creative practices. The physicality and mindfulness of swimming as a form of cross-training and the need for dancers to be their own advocates is explored as well as the need for inclusivity and openness in the art world and the importance of celebrating different bodies and perspectives. Overall, this episode highlights the power of art to connect and express the human experience.Liza (she/her) is a figurative sculptor based in Queens, NY. Passionate for learning and driven by curiosity, Liza is always searching for connections between mediums. She graduated from the Certificate program at The Ailey School, studied at The Feldenkrais Institute, and The Art Students League of New York. She received a BS from The City College of New York with a Psychology major and Biology minor, and finished an honors research project in a neuroscience lab. In 2022, Liza received her MFA in Sculpture with a minor in Anatomy from the New York Academy of Art. She has received scholarships from Urban Glass, The Studio at Corning Museum of Glass, Penland School of Craft, and The Fantasy Fountain Fund for the Arts. Her sculpture practice uses ceramic, glass and stone to express the physicality of the human figure, especially of women. Recently, Liza‘s work was selected for the Libensky Award Exhibition in Prague, Czech Republic, among a cohort of emerging glass artists.Follow / Learn More / Mentions:IG: @lizagracelittle_sculptor Website: https://www.lizagracelittlesculpture.com/ Backstage.com I Robert Beverly Hale I Stephen Rogers Peck I Dr. Paul Richer I Feldenkrais Institute I Linda Celeste SimsSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E8 Professional Paths Mini Series: What part does value play in how dancers view themselves?
Aug 7 2024
S2 E8 Professional Paths Mini Series: What part does value play in how dancers view themselves?
Send us a textIn this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy discuss the professional paths within the dance industry, focusing on the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders (DCC) as an example. They explore the narrow trajectory of competition dancers and the value placed on spectacle and entertainment as well as the transition from competition dance to college dance teams and the limited career options available. They also touch on the controversy surrounding the pay of DCC dancers and the undervaluing of their work. The episode highlights the need for change and a reevaluation of the implicit values and reasoning behind pay disparities and the devaluation of professional dancers, specifically focusing on the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders (DCC). They discuss the justifications given for low pay, such as the emphasis on sisterhood and purpose and highlight the control and exclusivity within the organization, as well as the devaluation of dancers' efforts, bodies, and voices. The conversation delves into the intersection of patriarchy, capitalism, misogyny, body dysmorphia, and gender pay gaps within the dance industry; emphasizing the need for dancers and industry professionals to value themselves and demand fair compensation.Resource:Episode 8 SlideshowSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E7 Lisa Long: Because no matter the path, you are enough.
Jul 31 2024
S2 E7 Lisa Long: Because no matter the path, you are enough.
Send us a textGuest: Lisa LongCurious Human Being I CSUF Professor I Movement Artist I Choreographer I Researcher I AuthorIn this interview episode, Lisa Long, shares her journey in the dance world & her passion for teaching & supporting students. She emphasizes the importance of change, connection, & nature in her work. Discussing her research on mindfulness practices in dance & the positive impact they have on students' metacognition, critical thinking, sensory awareness, and emotional intelligence. Her goal is to make the dance journey easier for the next generation and provide them with tools to become better human beings. Additionally, Lisa emphasizes the importance of mindful rigor and holistic training in dance performance and the need for explicit teaching and clear communication in dance classes coupled with the value of creating a safe and supportive environment for students to explore and ask questions. Lisa also shares her personal experiences with receiving both positive and negative feedback in her dance career, and how she has learned to prioritize her own self-efficacy. She encourages cross-training and exploring different practices to enhance physical and mental well-being. Overall, Lisa advocates for a more inclusive and mindful approach to dance education & performance.Lisa (she/her) leads her life curiosity-forward. Her evolution thus far has flowed between dance, choreography, massage, education, and most recently, writing.For over a decade she danced professionally, first for Dallas Black Dance Theatre, and next was a principal dancer with Dance Kaleidoscope, under the artistic direction of David Hochoy, for eight years. She has created roles in works by...learn more here.Follow / Learn More:IG: @dlongdanceWebsite: https://dlongdance.com/Mentions:Book: 8.1.24 Cognella PressAlwin Nikolais I Dallas Black Dance Theatre I Dance Kaleidoscope I Martha Graham I Oregon Shakespeare Festival I Alexandra Beller I Dave Brailsford I Wim HofSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E6 Nervous System Mini Series: How does survival mode affect the body? (Part 4)
Jul 24 2024
S2 E6 Nervous System Mini Series: How does survival mode affect the body? (Part 4)
Send us a textIn the final part of this Episode (Part 4), Eileen and Amy's conversation explores the concept of a dysregulated nervous system and its connection to unresolved trauma. They explore the impact of trauma on the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems and how a dysregulated nervous system can lead to psychological, physical, and cognitive issues. Additionally, the window of tolerance is introduced as a period of optimal balance in the nervous system; delving into how somatic work, somatic integration, embodiment practices, and regulating the body helps to build the capacity of the window of tolerance. Various tools and resources for regulating the nervous system are mentioned as well.Resource:Episode 6 SlideshowSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E6 Nervous System Mini Series: How does survival mode affect the body? (Part 3)
Jul 24 2024
S2 E6 Nervous System Mini Series: How does survival mode affect the body? (Part 3)
Send us a textIn Part 3 of this Episode, Eileen and Amy's conversation explores the concept of optimism and how it has been weaponized against dancing bodies. It delves into the importance of having empathetic witnesses and the impact of trauma on the nervous system. The five traumatic responses (fight, flight, freeze, fawn, and flop) are discussed in detail, highlighting their physical and emotional manifestations. They also emphasize the need for dancers to establish boundaries, challenge abusive behaviors, and cultivate a sense of self amidst societal pressures.Be sure to listen to Part 4 where they cover the nuances of a dysregulated nervous system, some terminology and some examples of how to regulate the nervous system.Resource:Episode 6 SlideshowSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E6 Nervous System Mini Series: How does survival mode affect the body? (Part 2)
Jul 24 2024
S2 E6 Nervous System Mini Series: How does survival mode affect the body? (Part 2)
Send us a textIn Part 2 of this Episode, Eileen and Amy's conversation explores the impact of trauma on dancers and the importance of creating a safe and supportive environment in dance classes. It emphasizes that trauma is not just what happens to a person, but also what happens inside them as a result. The discussion highlights the need for dancers to build resilience and capacity to handle stress and challenges. It also emphasizes the importance of empathy and being an empathetic witness for others. The conversation touches on the concepts of optimism and the role it plays in resilience and healing.Be sure to listen to Part 3 where they cover the 5 Trauma Responses and how they can show up in the dance world.Resource:Episode 6 SlideshowSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E6 Nervous System Mini Series: How does survival mode affect the body? (Part 1)
Jul 24 2024
S2 E6 Nervous System Mini Series: How does survival mode affect the body? (Part 1)
Send us a textIn Part 1 of this Episode, Eileen and Amy discuss the nervous system and how survival mode affects the body. They explore different lenses through which they view the nervous system, such as the somatic, energetic, traumatic, emotional, and physiological lenses. They explain that survival mode is a physiological and psychological response that occurs when the body is overwhelmed by stress, and it activates the body's stress response systems. They discuss the fight, flight, freeze, fawn, and flop trauma responses, as well as the importance of finding balance between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems. They also touch on the role of cortisol and glucose in the body's stress response.Be sure to listen to Part 2 where they cover how stress and trauma inform each other and the reframing of what it means to be resilient and optimistic.Resource:Episode 6 SlideshowSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E5 Nichol Lazenby: Because there is a place for you.
Jul 17 2024
S2 E5 Nichol Lazenby: Because there is a place for you.
Send us a textGuest: Nichol LazenbyOwner of Grateful Body PilatesCSUS Dance Faculty ChoreographerMovement ArtistIn this conversation, Eileen, Amy and Nichol talk about the challenges of finding their voice and identity in the dance world, the importance of being seen and connecting with others through movement, and the power of vulnerability and authenticity in performance. They also touch on the need for dancers to create spaces where they feel safe to show up as their true selves. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of embracing one's unique journey and finding a place in the dance world. In this conversation, Nichol discusses the importance of dance as a form of self-expression and connection to the body emphasizing that anyone can dance, regardless of their experience or rhythm. She shares her insights on the importance of cross-training, particularly through Pilates, for injury prevention and rehabilitation and highlights the need for dancers to prioritize their mental, emotional, and spiritual health, including practices such as meditation. Nichol reflects on her own experiences with injuries and the lessons she has learned about self-care and acceptance calling for greater emphasis on injury prevention and mental health support in dance training and the industry as a whole.Nichol (she/her) is a dance artist, educator, choreographer, and Pilates instructor who has taught throughout the country for over 15 years. Originally from Southern California, she received a B.F.A. in Dance from California State University of Long Beach, and MFA degree in Dance/Choreography with an additional Certificate in College Teaching from The University of Arizona. Her interests in injury prevention, functional cross training, movement efficiency and longevity drew her to acquire a Pilates certification with an emphasis in dance conditioning through Body Arts and Science International (BASI) and a personal training certification through International Sports Sciences Association (ISSA).Throughout Nichol’s dance career...learn more here.Follow / Learn More:IG: @nichol.mason.lazenby / @gratefulbodypilatesMentions:Doug VaroneBartenieff FundamentalsSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E4 Injury Mini Series: How prevalent are injuries in dance?
Jul 10 2024
S2 E4 Injury Mini Series: How prevalent are injuries in dance?
Send us a textToday's episode talks about just how common injuries in dance are, with 86% of dancers experiencing one or more injuries in their career. We also debunk the traditional injury protocol of RICE (Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation) that is now being challenged as it can prolong the healing process and hinder recovery. A new approach called PEACE (Protect, Elevate, Avoid anti-inflammatory substances, Compression, Educate) and LOVE (Load, Optimism, Vascularization, Exercise) is being advocated, focusing on protecting the injured area, promoting fluid movement, avoiding anti-inflammatory measures, providing compression or massage, and educating oneself about the body. Injuries in dance are not just physical but also have psychological and emotional components that need to be addressed; mental stress can manifest as physical tension and affect performance. Integrating the physical, mental, and emotional aspects of dance is crucial for injury prevention and recovery. Dance programs and institutions need to prioritize the holistic well-being of dancers and provide resources for physical and mental health support.Note: When Eileen discusses "beliefs" during this episode, she is referring specifically to embodied beliefs (not just the conscious beliefs we hold, but the energetic beliefs our body has somatically developed).  Resources / Studies / Articles / References:R.I.C.E. DebunkedR.I.C.E. MethodP.E.A.C.E. and L.O.V.E. Protocol80% dancers versus 20% rugby and football players will have a career affecting injury.*Be sure to check out S2E2 Injury Mini Series: What even IS an injury?'s episode description for more resources / studies / articles / references.Support the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E3 Julia Harnett: Because our voice is needed too.
Jul 3 2024
S2 E3 Julia Harnett: Because our voice is needed too.
Send us a textGuest: Julia HarnettPerformer / Producer / Coach / EducatorThis beautiful conversation covers a range of topics including the influence of ballet training on other dance styles, the importance of lead and follow in dance, the therapeutic nature of movement, and the impact of stagnation on the body. Julia Harnett shares her personal journey through the dance industry, from transitioning out of ballroom dancing to pursuing acting, yoga, and musical theater. She discusses the challenges of shifting from a dancer to an actor and the impact of body image on her career. The conversation also delves into the Eurocentric aesthetic in dance and covers everything from the impact of different dance styles to the importance of self-care and mental well-being to the importance of rest and the need for new work in the industry to aging and the empowerment of dancers to advocate for change with an emphasis on the significance of storytelling and the need for celebration and recognition of dancers at all stages of their careers.Julia (she/her) is a dynamic triple threat who began performing at the age of four. Early training consisted of exclusively ballet (Royal Academy of Dance), whilst later adding jazz (Jack Cole/ Fosse), Scottish highland dance, musical theatre, contemporary, and competitive dancesport (ballroom and latin). ​Never one to shy away from her emotions, Julia was also involved heavily in the drama department of her high school and local theatre community, and went on to work for theatres across Canada and the United States, with principal and ensemble roles in Guys & Dolls (Kennedy Center), A Christmas Story (Center Theatre Group -The Ahmanson), Chicago (The Fulton Theatre), and In the Heights (Arts Club Theatre - Vancouver). It wasn’t long before the television and film industry started calling her name, and Julia soon began working national television commercial spots as a principal actor, choreographer, and dancer for Glade, Hershey’s, Scotiabank, Lexus, Nikon, Party City, Del Taco, and Time Warner Cable...read more here.Follow / Learn More:IG: @juliaharnettWebsite: IMDB / Jack Cole DancersMentions:Misty CopelandArticle: Regrets of the DyingSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E2 Injury Mini Series: What even IS an injury?
Jun 27 2024
S2 E2 Injury Mini Series: What even IS an injury?
Send us a textIn the first of many Mini Series episodes, Eileen and Amy discuss the topic of injury in dance. They explore the definition of an injury and the different types of injuries, including acute and chronic, overuse and traumatic. They emphasize the importance of recovery and the need for dancers to train intentionally and balance their bodies. They also touch on the psychological and emotional aspects of injuries and the prevalence of injuries in the dance industry. The conversation aims to provide education, perspective, and support for dancers dealing with injuries. They discuss the interconnectedness of the body and the importance of understanding the root causes of pain and injury and emphasize the need for a holistic approach to healing and the importance of listening to and believing in one's own body. The limitations of traditional medical professionals and the need for a diverse range of resources and perspectives in the field of healthcare is also discussed. They go on to highlight the responsibility of dance teachers and other professionals to create a safe and supportive environment for dancers to explore and understand their bodies.Edit:There is a moment Amy mentions the 10 muscles that insert into the shoulder girdle--there are actually 8. Amy got excited and included the muscles of the rotator cuff in her muscle estimation.Resources / Studies / Articles / References:Preventing Dance Injuries: A Current PerspectiveInjury IncidenceDetailed Injury Epidemiology in Contemporary DanceEpidemiology of Injuries Connected with Dance: A Critical Review on EpidemiologInjuries in Professional Modern DancersCommon Dance InjuriesRehearsal and Performance Volume in Professional Ballter: A Five-Season Cohort StudySupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.
S2 E1 Erin Kei: Because our bodies tell our stories.
Jun 20 2024
S2 E1 Erin Kei: Because our bodies tell our stories.
Send us a textGuest: Erin KeiActor In Erin's words: "This changes daily. Today it's 'Actor'."In Season 2's Premiere Episode, Erin shares her journey and experiences in the dance world; discussing how she became aware of her body during puberty and the pressure she felt to conform to societal ideals. She opens up about her struggles with body dysmorphia and the constant need to be seen and validated by others. This conversation highlights the disconnection between the internal and external experience of the body in the dance industry and the importance of body image and self-expression. The episode also explores the need for dancers to focus on how they feel in their bodies rather than conforming to societal expectations, the impact of patriarchy and binary thinking on dancers' self-perception and the pressure to maintain a certain aesthetic. The need for more spaces and time for dancers to develop a sense of self and build a healthy relationship with their bodies is highlighted as well as the importance of intention and storytelling in dance and the need for greater representation and inclusivity in the industry.*Activation Warning: This episode discusses sensitive topics. Please take care of your body.* Erin (she/her) is a New York artist, originally from TX. Erin has performed in NY, Regionally, on National Tours, in Commercials, and Film/TV. Along with performing, Erin finds joy facilitating other artists and choreographers, as well as teaching students of all ages to find their artistic voice. Erin currently serves as the Associate Artistic Director for Thistle Dance. Huge thank you to Eileen and Amy for creating a safe space for movement artists to speak to their experiences. Thank you for listening!Follow: IG: @erinnish & @thistle_danceResource / Mention:Human Design TestSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.