Today’s guest Banning Garrett has over four decades of experience as a strategic thinker, writer and speaker on international relations and global trends. As a consultant to both the World Bank and the United Nations, Garrett writes and speaks on long-term global trends and the impact of exponential technologies. After sixty-one trips to China since 1981 for consultations with Chinese officials and analysts, Garrett has also developed a thorough understanding of Chinese politics and shares his takes on the competition between China and the USA.

Garrett has been a part of taking forward the Global Trends report, a report used to brief former President Barack Obama, and he comments on its conclusions and shares his view on the challenges that humanity will have to face in the following decades. We must learn to navigate among the global challenges of future pandemics and the issue of healthcare, climate change and international agreements, population growth of urban areas in the Global South, and future food production, all of which are carrying the risk of migration and conflict. Furthermore, the question of climate change holds another dimension of complexity as us humans have brought it on ourselves. What happens with the responsibility and accountability when blame cannot be placed?

Garrett continues with discussing China that, especially under Xi Jinping, has moved in a hyper-nationalist direction. He concludes that the Chinese government tries to create an almost totalitarian regime on technological steroids for internal control and suppression of descent like what has happened to the Uighurs,  and in Hong-Kong and Taiwan. He comments on the bipolar tech competition between China and the US and asserts that confrontation is possible, but not probable to a higher extent since the mutually assured nuclear destruction is too strong. The cooperation between the two states should focus on climate as, without Chinese-American collaboration, international dialogue is not going to be constructive.

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