Dan, Suzana, and Flavio host a conversation with Lawrence Savill about Spiritualism and Spiritism. Lawrence is a Spiritualist from the Poole Spiritualist Church and, together with Fabricio Assunção from the Spiritist Society of Bournemouth, they've been carrying out joint events over the past year. Larry brings a great lens through which we can understand this close relationship between Spiritualism and Spiritism.