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This week’s episode is hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series and Andy Ellis (@csoandy), operating partner, YL Ventures.  Joining me is our guest this week, Mike Kelley, CISO, EW Scrips.

In this episode:

• Why do a lot of security professionals feel unheard?
• Does this frustration lead to some turning into scolds during a security incident, quick to say "I told you so"?
• How do you manage these security pros when they don't feel heard, both before and during a crisis?

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