We got to have this great and insightful talk with comedy writer, Jon Gutierrez! Jason became familiar with Jon many years ago in the oddest place...a Facebook group for aspiring writers. They talked about those early days of trying to get a writing job for a late night show, coming up during the early heydays of UCB and taking more classes than any student in theater history, all the wild things he got to do there like wrestling with Donald Glover, writing for @Midnight and Mystery Science Theater 3000, his philosophy on writing, and much more! https://jongutierrez.substack.com Twitter: @Dasgoot1, @ThereItIsPod, @JasonFarrJokes  Instagram: @Dasgoot1, @ThereItIsPod, @JasonFarrPics  Facebook: @ThereItIsPod  Subscribe to our comedy newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/e22defd4dee2/thereitis