Episode 257 – Creation According to Genesis – An Interview with Dr. Jonathan Sarfati Welcome to Anchored by Truth brought to you by Crystal Sea Books. In John 14:6, Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life.” The goal of Anchored by Truth is to encourage everyone to grow in the Christian faith by anchoring themselves to the secure truth found in the inspired, inerrant, and infallible word of God. Script Notes: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. Then God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. Then he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day” and the darkness “night.” And evening passed and morning came, marking the first day. Genesis, chapter 1, verses 1 through 5. New Living Translation

“Haven’t you read the Scriptures?” Jesus replied. “They record that from the beginning ‘God made them male and female.’” And he said, “‘This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one.’ Since they are no longer two but one, let no one split apart what God has joined together.” The Gospel of Matthew, chapter 19, verses 4 through 6. New Living Translation

******** VK: VK: Hi! I’m Victoria K. Welcome to Anchored by Truth brought to you by Crystal Sea Books. Today we want to continue our discussion series that we’re calling The Truth in Genesis and to help us do that we’ve invited one of the premier scientists and experts on the question of origins, Dr. Jonathan Sarfati, to be our guest in the studio for the next several weeks. For those who aren’t familiar with Dr. Sarfati’s work we would encourage listeners to check out his impressive body of writing. He’s written a number of widely selling books that challenge the conventional views of what chemistry, geology, and paleontology say about the age of the universe and the origin of life. Dr. Sarfati has sold hundreds of thousands of books such as Refuting Evolution, By Design, and The Greatest Hoax on Earth and The Genesis Account. During this series Dr. Sarfati will be addressing a wide variety of topics that are pertinent to the question of the origin of the earth and the universe. He will be providing us with insight into the extensive body of scientific evidence that supports the truth of the Genesis text. Along the way he will be addressing a number of subjects, including problems with conventional dating methods, affirmative evidence that the universe is actually fairly young, scientific challenges to life arising from non-living chemicals, and evidence that the earth’s surface provides abundant evidence of a world-wide flood. We will even be doing an entire show just on dinosaurs and what the latest dinosaur research actually tells us about the earth’s history. But before we get too far into our discussion, Dr. Sarfati would you like to say a word of greeting to the Anchored by Truth listeners and maybe tell us a little bit about yourself? Dr. Sarfati: - Thanks for inviting me. It’s a pleasure to be on Anchored by Truth today. Introductory comments. VK: Is it fair to say, Dr. Sarfati that you believe that what some have termed the “Battle for the Beginning” is one of the most significant challenges facing the church today especially in America and in much of the developed world? Dr. Sarfati: Opening comments VK: It sounds as though you have a real heart to increase what we might call an awareness of the truth in Genesis to our culture today. So that sounds like you believe that the Bible is the inspired, inerrant, and infallible Word of God which is a point of view we definitely share on Anchored by Truth. Is it fair to say that one of the reasons it’s so important to be very clear about a proper understanding of the opening verses of Genesis is because any view of creation other than a literal 6 24-hour day understanding of Genesis would require the existence of animal and human death before Adam’s sin? This would undermine God’s declaration of the unspoiled creation being “very good” and the clear link scripture makes between sin and death. Dr. Sarfati: Comments VK: So let’s amplify on that essential truth for our listeners. Question List: a. You strongly believe that the six days of creation described in Genesis chapter 1 must be understood as literal 24-hour periods? Why? b. The Hebrew word yom can be used to mean longer periods than a 24 hour day. Is interpreting yom to mean “age” rather than day a possible interpretation? c. The “gap” theory of creation posits a gap of an indeterminate time between creation and the subsequent events in Genesis and thereby could permit the earth to be millions or billions of years old. Is this possible? d. Some Biblical commentators argue that the “seventh” day of creation in which God rested is still going on. If so, that means that at least one of the days of creation wasn’t 24 literal hours. Doesn’t that mean that the earlier six days might also be of an indeterminate length? e. From a Biblical standpoint what is the age of the universe and earth? f. How is this age calculated? g. When and how did you arrive at the conviction that a proper interpretation of Genesis requires viewing creation as 6 24-hour days and the age of the universe as being thousands, rather than billions of years old? h. What resources would you recommend for Christians who want to study a correct interpretation of the Book of Genesis?

VK: So the one of the big takeaways from our discussion today is that any view of creation other than a literal 6 24-hour day understanding of Genesis would require the existence of animal and human death before Adam’s sin. This would undermine God’s declaration of the unspoiled creation being “very good” and the clear link scripture makes between sin and death. This position implies that the earth is thousands rather than billions of years old. Dr. Sarfati, we’d really like to thank you for joining us on Anchored by Truth today. Just as a reminder this show, as well as all Anchored by Truth episodes will be available by podcast shortly after the broadcast airing. So any listener today who has a friend or study group that could benefit from Dr. Sarfati’s depth of knowledge can go to their favorite podcast app and search on Anchored by Truth by Crystal Sea Books. Today for our closing prayer how about if we pray that everyone would come to a saving knowledge of the God of the Bible who is our one sure anchor to truth. ---- Prayer for the spiritually lost, radio version. VK: We hope you’ll be with us next time when we’ll continue our discussion with Dr. Sarfati. And we hope you’ll take some time to encourage some friends to tune in too, or listen to the podcast version of this show. If you’d like to hear more, try out crystalseabooks.com where “We’re not famous but our Boss is!” (Bible Quotes from the New Living Translation) Genesis, chapter 1, verses 1 through 5. New Living Translation The Gospel of Matthew, chapter 19, verses 4 through 6. New Living Translation

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