She Said Privacy/He Said Security

Jodi and Justin Daniels

This is the She Said Privacy / He Said Security podcast with Jodi and Justin Daniels. Like any good marriage, Jodi and Justin will debate, evaluate, and sometimes quarrel about how privacy and security impact business in the 21st century.

Transforming How Your Children Use Technology
4d ago
29 mins
Jodi and Justin’s Top Five Privacy and Security Lessons for 2022
Jodi Daniels is the Founder and CEO of Red Clover Advisors, a boutique data privacy consultancy and one of the few certified Women’s Business Enterprises focused solely on privacy. Since its launch, Red Clover Advisors has helped hundreds of companies create privacy programs, achieve GDPR, CCPA, and US privacy law compliance, and establish a secure online data strategy that their customers can count on. Jodi is a Certified Informational Privacy Professional (CIPP/US) with over 20 years of experience helping a range of businesses — from solopreneurs to multinational companies — in privacy, marketing, strategy, and finance roles. She has worked with numerous companies throughout her corporate career, including Deloitte, The Home Depot, Cox Enterprises, Bank of America, and many more. Jodi is also a national keynote speaker, a member of the Forbes Business Council, and the co-host of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security podcast. Justin Daniels is a cybersecurity subject matter expert and business attorney who helps his clients implement strategies to better manage and recover from data breaches. As outsourced general counsel for Baker Donelson, Justin advises executives on how to successfully navigate cyber business and legal concerns related to operations, M&A, incident response, and more. In 2017, Justin founded and led the inaugural Atlanta Cyber Week, where multiple organizations held events that attracted more than 1,000 attendees. Justin is also a TEDx and keynote speaker and the co-host of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security podcast with his wife, Jodi. In this episode… It's 2022, and digital data is expanding faster than ever. Many companies are struggling to adapt to dynamic data privacy and security laws and advancements. When it comes to the privacy and security space, what mistakes are companies making?  Privacy and security experts Jodi and Justin Daniels maintain the importance of company data inventories, so you can figure out where your data is and why you're using it. Without these inventories, it becomes impossible to secure your data and comply with the latest laws. This is just one of Jodi and Justin's many lessons intended to educate companies on privacy and security. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels sit down to discuss their top five privacy and security lessons of 2022. Tune in to learn about the privacy terms and conditions you should include in your company contract, how to make sure you're using cookies correctly on your website, and why small companies should heed privacy and security warnings.
May 12 2022
18 mins
Training Your Company on Privacy and Security Laws
Daniel Solove is a skilled expert in privacy law and the President and CEO of TeachPrivacy, a company providing data security and privacy training to businesses, healthcare institutions, and other organizations. He is also the John Marshall Harlan Research Professor of Law at the George Washington University Law School. Daniel has written 10 books and more than 50 law review articles for the Harvard Law Review, Yale Law Journal, Stanford Law Review, and more. He has been featured in hundreds of articles and broadcasts in outlets such as The New York Times, The Washington Post, and CNN. In this episode… How much does your team really know about privacy laws? Are you taking steps to ensure that your company’s privacy and data security is up to date? Daniel Solove, a leading privacy expert, is passionate about educating companies about privacy. This interest led to the development of his company, TeachPrivacy, which offers comprehensive privacy training programs for organizations. Now, Daniel is here to share his advice on how you can educate your employees on the subject of privacy laws in an engaging and informative way — so you can stay compliant and protected. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels sit down with Daniel Solove, the President and CEO of TeachPrivacy, to discuss how to educate your team on data privacy and security. Daniel reveals how to lead engaging training sessions on privacy laws, the different types of privacy laws that employees should be aware of, and his own tips and tricks on personal security and privacy.
May 5 2022
32 mins
Data Privacy in the Evolving Advertising Landscape
Ana Milicevic is the Co-founder and Principal of Sparrow Advisers, a boutique management consultancy that helps marketers and C-suite executives generate and grow revenue through product, strategy, services, sales, and marketing consulting. Ana is a pioneer in digital data management and has years of experience in adtech, martech, and product strategy. Earlier in her career, she held key leadership roles in media and entertainment startups in both Europe and the United States. In addition to her work at Sparrow Advisers, Ana is a frequent speaker on topics of big data, cross-channel marketing analytics, the future of media and advertising, and more.  In this episode… As digital advertising continues to evolve, companies need to stay savvy in order to maintain data privacy and security standards. But, with so many different privacy laws and regulations coming into play, how do you know the best path forward? Currently, the US is taking a fractured approach to privacy and security, with different states passing their own laws. This can make compliance a nightmare for companies that are also trying to navigate a post-cookie advertising landscape. While the ideal solution may still be years away, there are some actions companies can take now to overcome current challenges and prepare for the data-driven future.  In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels sit down with Ana Milicevic, the Co-founder and Principal of Sparrow Advisers, to discuss data privacy in the evolving advertising landscape. Ana talks about navigating the post-cookie world, why it’s important to focus on data usage rights, and how to improve your email hygiene. She also shares her thoughts on the US data privacy laws and regulations. Stay tuned.
Apr 28 2022
34 mins
Building a Balanced Privacy Program
Linda Thielová serves as Head of Privacy, COE, and DPO at OneTrust, the #1 most widely used privacy, security, and trust technology platform. In her role, Linda provides guidance on GDPR, EU privacy, and global privacy related obligations to support customers and product innovation. She's responsible for overseeing OneTrust’s data protection strategy and implementation to ensure compliance with GDPR requirements. Linda also conducts training and workshops on the global privacy landscape and regularly contributes to various publications and conferences. Additionally, she is a multi-certified Information Privacy Professional. In this episode… The privacy and security landscape is constantly shifting and more and more regulations are being introduced. How can you build a suitable privacy program when the laws don’t always line up?  The most successful companies have an element of agility in their privacy programs. The key is striking the right balance. This means adjusting to whatever law crosses the board, while also focusing on the ultimate goal — building trust with your key stakeholders. Successful companies recognize the need to comply, but they also ask themselves: why are we doing it? And how are we benefiting both the business and those stakeholders in the process? In this episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security podcast, hosts Justin and Jodi Daniels are joined by Linda Thielová, Head of Privacy, COE, and DPO at OneTrust, to talk about building a balanced privacy program. Linda shares examples of companies who are successfully navigating new privacy laws, the importance of a data map, and the biggest privacy challenges that businesses face today.
Apr 14 2022
34 mins
Data Collaboration and the Future of Data Privacy
Chris McLellan is the Director of Operations for the Data Collaboration Alliance, a global nonprofit dedicated to helping people and organizations get full control of their data. Chris is a data ownership advocate and community organizer who specializes in the advancement of leading-edge innovations, particularly data-centric technologies. In 2017, he founded Ask AI, a nonprofit promoting awareness and understanding of artificial intelligence through its podcast, free event series, and chatbot. In addition, Chris is a Marketing Consultant with Friends Electric and the Director of Category Success for Cinchy. In this episode… How would you describe the world of data today? With so many new technologies and innovations, the word chaos comes to mind. But what does this mean for data privacy, and how can you start to reframe this chaos into something beneficial for your organization?  When it comes to privacy in the data space, everything boils down to control. Who can see your data? Who can access your data? How are they going to use that data? Luckily, the Data Collaboration Alliance is on a mission to transform the chaotic world of data into something more controlled — without forgoing the exciting innovations in the industry.  In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels sit down with Chris McLellan, the Director of Operations at the Data Collaboration Alliance, to talk about improving privacy through data ownership, collaboration, and control. Tune in as Chris breaks down what data collaboration is, how to prioritize privacy in Web 3.0, and the new technologies that will transform the way data is shared.
Apr 7 2022
30 mins
How Security Plans Impact Business Transactions
Philip Lewis is a Partner with Fulcrum Equity Partners, a company that makes equity investments in rapidly growing businesses. He also currently serves on the Board of Directors for Kevel, Stratasan, Advantum Health, GoPivot, and LiveSource. He previously served on the Boards of Stax by Fattmerchant, MFG, and Resolvion. Before joining Fulcrum Equity Partners, Philip worked with SaaSOptics, implementing operational cadences and working with the team through its nine-figure exit. Prior to this, he served as CFO of RivalHealth and helped guide the company through its merger with gBehavior, now branded as GoPivot. In this episode… There are many factors that impact a business acquisition. During the due diligence process, there are financial, organizational, and leadership details to work out. But now, a new question is joining the list: What is your business' privacy and security strategy? Fifteen years ago, people didn’t put much thought into privacy and security when buying or selling a business. They weren’t concerned about ransomware and cyber breaches. Now, it’s at the forefront of everyone’s mind during a transaction. Business owners want to know: What does your security perimeter look like? How effective is your mobile device management? Do you have multi-factor authentication?  In this episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security podcast, Justin and Jodi Daniels are joined by Philip Lewis, Partner at Fulcrum Equity Partners, to discuss the importance of a company-wide privacy and security plan. Philip explains how your security plan (or lack thereof) will impact a business transaction, why multi-factor authentication matters, and the first steps to creating a more secure business.
Mar 31 2022
21 mins
Privacy, Security, and Drones
Tom Walker is the Founder and CEO of DroneUp. DroneUp provides drone technology solutions to businesses, organizations, and communities. The company’s products include flight services, data analysis, drone program development, regulatory consulting, training, equipment, and drone delivery. Before starting DroneUp, Tom was a military officer and served as an advisor to the White House. He is a pioneer in military and government digital reform and a frequent speaker on innovative technologies. In this episode… Imagine a world where groceries, medications, and supplies are delivered to your doorstep by drones. Road traffic is reduced by self-flying drones taking people to and from work. Police cars are replaced by drone surveillance and security. Is this within our near future? It might be. But before we can explore the possibility of autonomous flying taxis, experts have to puzzle out the privacy and security implications of such a world. With devices that can instantly identify cell phone data, VINs, and even the types of fluids at crime scenes, how are you going to keep private information from getting into the wrong hands? And, on the flip side, how can you use this data to make the world a better place? In this episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security podcast, hosts Jodi and Justin Daniels are joined by Tom Walker, the Founder and CEO of DroneUp, to discuss how he makes privacy a top priority for drone usage. Tom talks about the best practices for data collection, the types of information a drone can uncover, and why setting a privacy and security standard is important for the future of the drone industry.
Mar 24 2022
36 mins
Keeping Your Kids Safe in the Digital World
Justin Payeur is an entrepreneur, mentor, and cyber safety specialist. He’s the President and COO of National Education Technologies, where he helps parents teach their kids a balanced and safe approach to using mobile technology. As a dad of two teens, Justin understands how important it is to keep your children safe in the digital world. He leads product vision for digital wellbeing apps Boomerang Parental Control and SPIN Safe Browser to help filter web content and facilitate conversations about tech use. Justin has over a decade of experience in K12 enterprise sales leadership, working at organizations including Faronics Corporation, FinScan Inc., and IC Thrive. In addition to founding National Education Technologies, Justin is currently the General Manager of North America for Matific, a mathematics e-learning platform for schools. In this episode… In today’s world, kids are growing up with millions of websites, apps, and communication tools that are available at the touch of a button. So how can you keep your kids safe online while still giving them the freedom to explore? Many parents have dealt with the screen time battle — your kids want to be on their devices all the time, but you want to protect them from harmful content and habits. Is there any solution that will make both you and your child happy? According to Justin Payeur, the term “screen time” often has negative connotations, but it can actually be a good thing (depending on the content). Instead of trying to lock everything down immediately, show interest in their screen time use and have an open dialogue about expectations. And, you don’t need to lose sleep over your child’s online safety; Justin has some helpful tools to filter websites and provide a safer digital experience for your child.   In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels talk with Justin Payeur, President and COO of National Education Technologies, about how parents can create a balanced and safe approach to technology. Justin discusses the details of his digital safety apps, explains the risks many parents are unaware of on the internet, and shares tips for setting boundaries and introducing your child to screen time in a safer way.
Mar 17 2022
32 mins
Building a Privacy and Security Strategy for the Cloud
Bill Tolson is the Vice President of Global Compliance and eDiscovery at Archive360. Archive360 is the world’s first platform built to migrate and manage data with your security preferences in your own cloud. Bill has over 25 years of experience with multinational corporations and technology startups, including 15-plus years in the archiving, compliance, information governance, and eDiscovery markets. Bill frequently speaks at legal and information governance industry events, in addition to writing numerous articles and blogs. Bill is also a prolific podcaster and the author of multiple e-books, including The Know IT All’s Guide to eDiscovery and The Bartender’s Guide to eDiscovery. In this episode… Just a few years ago, it was tough to persuade large organizations to adopt the cloud. Now, there’s a massive data migration as more and more companies move sensitive data into the cloud. But, how can you keep this information secure?  For most companies, encrypting data is a simple yet effective solution to keep their data safe. And, many cloud providers have encryption keys to do the job. But what if you want to manage your own encryption keys? Is there a way to have more control over the security of your data on a third-party cloud provider? In this episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security podcast, hosts Justin and Jodi Daniels sit down with Bill Tolson, the Vice President of Global Compliance and eDiscovery at Archive360, to discuss how his team is empowering businesses to take charge of their cloud security. Bill talks about the first steps to creating a privacy and security strategy for the cloud, how new privacy laws will potentially impact businesses, and why knowing where your data is stored matters.
Mar 10 2022
35 mins
Evolving Privacy Laws
David Biderman is a Partner at Perkins Coie, where he leads the firm’s consumer products and services litigation subgroup and its food litigation industry group. David has represented clients in federal and state courts in California for over 40 years. With a focus on mass tort litigation and consumer class actions, he has litigated some of the most consequential food litigation matters in this emerging field. David has been recognized as a “Super Lawyer” in Los Angeles and San Francisco and has published articles in the National Law Journal, the Los Angeles Daily Journal, and more.  Dominique Shelton Leipzig is the Chair of Perkins Coie’s Global Data Innovation Team and the Co-chair of the firm’s ad tech privacy and data management practice. As a firm partner and attorney, she focuses on privacy data strategy, leveraging data, and avoiding litigation. Dominique pioneered the concept of data as a pre-tangible asset in what she calls our “post-data world.” She has trained over 18,000 professionals on the CCPA and also wrote the groundbreaking book, Implementing the CCPA: a Guide for Global Business. In this episode… Data and privacy issues aren’t confined to private companies anymore. They’re filtering their way into new laws and policies, and more and more states are defining legislation that could either protect or limit privacy and security. So, what do these changes mean for your business? How do you stay up to date with new laws and policies? And, what do you need to do to remain compliant and protected in the evolving privacy industry? In this episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security, hosts Justin and Jodi Daniels are joined by Dominique Shelton Leipzig and David Biderman from Perkins Coie to discuss current privacy litigation issues. They share their thoughts about states putting privacy issues on the docket this year, the privacy implications of the American Rescue Plan Act, and the up-to-date definitions of reasonable versus negligent extraction of data.
Mar 3 2022
44 mins
What is Communication’s Impact on Your Security and Privacy Program?
Melanie Ensign is the Founder and CEO of Discernible, a company that is uniquely specialized in addressing communication challenges for cybersecurity, privacy, and risk organizations. Melanie has extensive experience helping security teams deliver successful outcomes for their customers and partners through the application of effective communication. Before founding Discernible, Melanie was managing security and privacy communications for some of the world’s most notable brands, including Facebook, Uber, and AT&T. She currently leads the press department for DEF CON, the world’s largest hacker conference. In this episode… Are you struggling with communication challenges while trying to address cybersecurity, privacy, or risk at your organization? What if there are ways you can perfect your communication skills and stay compliant?  For you to deliver successful outcomes to your customers and partners, your security teams need to develop effective communication skill sets. Melanie Ensign says that most of the barriers around success involve a lack of effective communication and partnerships with key stakeholders and customers — and many security programs fail to recognize this reality before it’s too late. In this episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security podcast, Jodi and Justin Daniels sit down with Melanie Ensign, the Founder and CEO of Discernible, to discuss the impacts of communication on security and privacy programs. Melanie talks about how she uses communication skills to help clients in a security and privacy incident, the privacy-related communication challenges that companies face, and how she communicates the value of privacy to companies in the data economy.
Feb 24 2022
36 mins
Private Cyber 911
Dr. Ondrej Krehel is the Founder and CEO of LIFARS, a global leader in incident response, digital forensics, ransomware mitigation, and cyber resiliency services. Dr. Krehel is recognized worldwide for his ethical hacking and digital forensic expertise. He holds a PhD in computer forensics from the Police Academy in Bratislava and a master’s degree in mathematical physics from Comenius University in Bratislava. Dr. Krehel is a former lecturer at the FBI Training Academy and a current contributor to the Forbes Technology Council. He also previously led forensic investigations and cybersecurity consulting at Stroz Friedberg, encompassing US government engagements and missions — including military cyber special operations. In this episode… There are firefighters to douse flames, ambulances to rush patients to the hospital, and policemen to bust crime scenes. But who do you call in a cybersecurity emergency? The answer: a cyber doctor. They can effectively scan the body of your cybersecurity program and find any weaknesses. Do you have a cyber cold? Cyber flu? Or is it full-on cyber cancer? Whether you’re experiencing a phishing email, a computer virus, or a ransomware attack, cyber doctors can nurse your systems back to full strength. In this episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security podcast, Jodi and Justin Daniels sit down with Dr. Ondrej Krehel, Founder and CEO of LIFARS, to discuss effective solutions to cyber attacks. Dr. Krehel talks about creating a proactive security plan, navigating new ransomware trends, and how to avoid giving out unnecessary personal data.
Feb 17 2022
32 mins
Privacy and Security Precautions for the CloudThe Future of Online Identity Verification
Rick Song is the CEO and Co-founder of Persona, an identity infrastructure company founded in 2018. Persona offers businesses the building blocks they need to create a personalized identity verification experience. Persona’s mission is to be the identity layer of the internet. Before starting Persona, Rick was an engineer at Square. He earned his bachelor’s degree in computer science, mathematics, and economics from Rice University. In this episode… Over the last 10 years, the amount of information that is collected about consumers has increased dramatically. Is there any end in sight to this accelerated information scoop?  The need to verify your identity online isn’t going anyway anytime soon. But, hopefully one day we can reach that delicate intersection where we can prove who we are online without needing to give away so much personal data. Persona is working to make that a reality. They help companies store and manage data within a secure infrastructure that limits how much sensitive personal information they have to ingest into their platforms. So, how will this change the way companies verify identities online? In this episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security podcast, Justin and Jodi Daniels sit down with Rick Song, the CEO and Co-founder of Persona, to discuss the future of online identity verification. Rick talks about how Persona is changing the way companies collect information, why efficient identity verification is essential for Web 3.0, and the security tips that can help you keep your information secure online.
Feb 3 2022
30 mins
Privacy by DesignClosing the Security Gap For IoT DevicesBuilding Trust Through Data TransparencyUsing AI for Data Breach Response
Adi Elliott is the Chief Revenue Officer at Canopy, an industry-leading data privacy and cybersecurity software company. Adi has over a decade of leadership experience in the software and services industries. He’s led multiple marketing, sales, product, and strategy teams recognized for innovation. Previously, Adi founded and led Relativity’s marketing and enterprise sales teams. He later led product and marketing at Iris Data Services, a leading IT service management company. When the company was acquired by Epiq, Adi began leading strategy for Epiq’s global eDiscovery business.  In this episode… No one likes to think about getting hacked. But how can you plan ahead in case your company’s data is breached? How about a team of professionals paired with the top AI software platform for data breaches? Canopy’s AI software can perform the initial data mining. Then, it evaluates: What’s the impact? Is it an incident? Is it a breach? Do we need to review it? If there is a breach with PII, the software can also help send out notices to affected clientele much quicker than any human response. So, how can you create a response plan to help your company bounce back quicker from a data breach? In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels sit down with Adi Elliott, the Chief Revenue Officer of Canopy, to discuss the best practices for data breach response. Adi talks about how Canopy aligns their software with each client’s company goals, how they’re using AI to reduce costs, and why their software is so effective.
Jan 6 2022
32 mins
Securing the Cloud with Identity and Access Management
Art Poghosyan is a serial entrepreneur with over 20 years of cybersecurity experience. Art’s entrepreneurial journey started with Advancive Technology Solutions, a leading identity management consulting and systems integration firm. He led the company's exponential growth and eventual acquisition by Optiv Security in 2016. Now, as the CEO and Co-founder of Britive, he is solving the cloud's most challenging security problem: privileged access security. Prior to his foray into entrepreneurship, Art served as the Manager of Advisory Services for EY (Ernst & Young) and as a Consultant for both Protiviti and Arthur Andersen. In this episode… My company’s data is stored in the cloud, so it’s completely secure. Right? Wrong. Unfortunately, storage in the cloud isn’t enough to keep your data secure. Cloud technologies are innovating faster than security can keep up. Plus, they can’t be protected with a firewall like traditional networks either. So what can you do to protect your data? The key is identity and access management security. With these systems, users can be authorized to receive access on demand, just for the time they need it. And, their access expires automatically when the session is over. This ensures that there is no 24/7 exposure of access that attackers love to exploit. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels sit down with Art Poghosyan, the Co-founder and CEO of Britive, to discuss the power of identity and access management security. Art talks about the biggest misconceptions about cloud security, the best strategies for securing your data in the cloud, and how Britive can strengthen your company’s security systems.
Dec 16 2021
22 mins