She Said Privacy/He Said Security

Jodi and Justin Daniels

This is the She Said Privacy / He Said Security podcast with Jodi and Justin Daniels. Like any good marriage, Jodi and Justin will debate, evaluate, and sometimes quarrel about how privacy and security impact business in the 21st century. read less
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Pixel Litigation, Ad Tech, and Digital Advertising Privacy With Alysa Hutnik
Apr 18 2024
Pixel Litigation, Ad Tech, and Digital Advertising Privacy With Alysa Hutnik
Alysa Hutnik is the Chair of the Privacy and Information Security practice at Kelley Drye. She is one of the nation’s leading ad tech attorneys, active in the industry, and well-versed in the unique legal challenges faced by advertisers and data-focused companies.  Alysa has spent the past two decades working with and growing Kelley Drye & Warren LLP, an Am Law 200 law firm of more than 350 lawyers and other professionals across the US. In this episode… Advertisers have a host of new and advanced tools to better target their audience. While this is a lucrative opportunity for companies, many of them utilize data closely tied to privacy concerns. The line is growing increasingly thin between ethical and unethical usage. How can both companies and consumers stay safe in the process? Experts in the field work tirelessly to keep up with technology and legislation. As litigation unfolds, the future of ad tech is being decided in real time, necessitating the help of legal experts who have a firm grasp of this rapidly shifting environment. Here are some of the most crucial pieces to the puzzle. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels interview Alysa Hutnik, the Chair of the Privacy and Information Security practice at Kelley Drye & Warren LLP, to discuss pixel litigation and ad tech. They break down what is currently happening in the courts, common mistakes companies are making, and the complications introduced by AI in advertising.
Building Privacy Programs for Global Businesses
Apr 11 2024
Building Privacy Programs for Global Businesses
Jordan Smith is the VP of Privacy Compliance for Peloton Interactive and is responsible for their global privacy program. Before joining Peloton, Jordan built compliance and global data privacy programs for startups as well as publicly traded companies.  Jordan’s resumé includes the development of policies for regulatory oversight, data privacy, fraud, brand safety, and social responsibility. He is a member of the International Association of Privacy Professionals and is a Certified Information Privacy Professional for the United States. In this episode… In the modern era, patchwork privacy regulations and policies are insufficient for the increasing demand and constant changes. Having a robust program is essential, but for larger businesses, this grows exponentially more difficult to build. On a global scale, the proposition can be outright exhausting. For these large corporations, elite privacy experts are putting their minds together to keep up with the changing tides. Companies such as Peloton deal with personal information, health data, financial details, and much more. Learn directly from professionals to see how they handle all of these variables. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels talk with Jordan Smith, the Vice President of Privacy Compliance at Peloton, about building privacy programs on a global scale. They discuss how to work across several internal teams, handling unique privacy needs, and the greatest challenges facing professionals today.
Protecting Children’s Privacy in the Social Media Age With Titania Jordan
Mar 21 2024
Protecting Children’s Privacy in the Social Media Age With Titania Jordan
Titania Jordan is the Chief Marketing Officer and Chief Parent Officer of Bark Technologies, an online safety company that helps nearly seven million kids stay safe online and in real life. She is a renowned thought leader on digital parenting, contributing to pieces in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The New York Times, Huffington Post, USA Today, and many more. Titania is the author of Parenting in a Tech World, a bestseller featured in the 2020 documentary Childhood 2.0. She founded Parenting in a Tech World, a Facebook group of more than 450,000 members where parents discuss raising kids in the digital age. In this episode… Privacy is already a pressing issue for the general population, but the topic is exponentially important for children. Kids have unprecedented access to the internet and all the dangers it entails. Combined with the advent of AI in the mainstream, parents need to be more careful than ever. Fortunately, there are people helping make the internet safer for children. Companies like Bark Technologies offer comprehensive parental controls that get to the heart of the problem. For children to thrive, they need more protections for their safety and their privacy. Parents need to be aware of the issues in modern society and what they can do to counteract them. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels interview Titania Jordan, the Chief Marketing Officer and Chief Parent Officer of Bark Technologies, to discuss privacy and protection for children. They delve into the current dangers facing children online, how AI fits into the equation, and how Bark works to help. They also touch on the importance of digital citizenship and how the law applies to children’s privacy.
New Technologies and Navigating Privacy Risk With Joe Toscano
Feb 29 2024
New Technologies and Navigating Privacy Risk With Joe Toscano
Joe Toscano is the Founder and CEO of DataGrade, a technology company helping companies discover, analyze, and manage data privacy risk. He has advised US Attorney Generals on Facebook and Google antitrust cases, helped shape privacy law across multiple states, and worked with large organizations such as the World Economic Forum. In addition to his work at DataGrade, Joe was featured in the Netflix documentary The Social Dilemma, and he is an international keynote speaker known for his TEDx Talk “Want to Work for Google? You Already Do.” Joe is also Senior Fellow at The Diplomatic Courier and a contributing author for Forbes. In this episode… Privacy and social engineering have become deeply integrated into modern society. The average person is unaware of the complex systems around them every day — privacy risk management has become a necessity for businesses and people alike. So what should everyone know as the world enters a new age of data? The best start is awareness. Thanks to documentaries such as The Social Dilemma, people are looking into their relationship to data and privacy. For businesses, more privacy and strategy is required. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels are joined by Joe Toscano, the CEO and Founder of DataGrade, to talk about technology and privacy in personal and corporate settings. They break down Joe’s role in The Social Dilemma, discuss his TED Talk, what DataGrade does, and what people should know about their own everyday privacy.
Expert Negotiation Tips When Your IT Network Is Held Hostage
Feb 8 2024
Expert Negotiation Tips When Your IT Network Is Held Hostage
Chris Voss is the CEO and Founder of The Black Swan Group, an organization that teaches strategies found in hostage negotiations and applies them to the business world. He is also the best-selling author of the book Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It. Prior to 2008, Chris was the Lead Negotiator for the FBI International Kidnapping Response as well as the FBI’s hostage negotiation representative for the National Security Council’s Hostage Working Group. During his career, he also represented the U.S. government as an expert in kidnapping at two international conferences sponsored by the G8. In this episode… Negotiation is a specialized yet universally useful skill. Even mundane conversations are filled with requests, persuasion, and deliberation. The basics are learned intuitively, but for more serious circumstances, more is required. Hostage situations are the most dire instance of negotiation. Experts are equipped to handle these scenarios with care and precision, pulling from thorough training and prior experience. In our digital world ransomware is also a hostage situation only your IT network is the hostage!! These advanced principles are incredibly useful for emergencies and day-to-day life alike. Now you can learn directly from a real-world ransomware example of how high-level negotiation works in practice. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Justin and Jodi Daniels are joined by Chris Voss, the CEO and Founder of The Black Swan Group, to share the concepts of high-stakes negotiations. They walk step-by-step through Justin’s ransomware negotiation for a hostage IT network and how he applied Chris’ principles to great success. They also discuss how to handle timelines, good questions for negotiations, and the best negotiation tip for privacy and security professionals.
How Levi’s Values Influences its Privacy Program With Karen McGee
Feb 1 2024
How Levi’s Values Influences its Privacy Program With Karen McGee
Karen McGee is the Chief Privacy Officer at Levi Strauss & Co., overseeing its privacy program and upholding the company’s principles. She specializes in translating intricate legal frameworks into manageable and legible systems. Karen’s preceding career includes Managing Privacy Counsel at Intel, CPO at LifeLock and General Counsel at ID Analytics. She was honored with the In-House Legal Adviser of the Year Award at the Women in Law Awards by Lawyer Monthly. In this episode… Company values can be taken for granted, but they hold the potential for so much more. When followed and honored correctly, corporate values can define a business. It can bring respect, trust, and even success by maintaining internal and external consistency. Few corporate sectors are as strongly influenced by company values as privacy and security. There is a long history of brands breaking consumer trust and suffering the consequences. It’s a complex topic, requiring agile changes and rigorous supervision. It can be illuminating to look toward companies that have paved the way and set a good example. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Justin and Jodi Daniels are joined by Karen McGee, the Chief Privacy Officer of Levi Strauss & Co., to discuss how Levi’s corporate values apply to its privacy program. They go over AI use cases, new SEC rules on cybersecurity, privacy policy, and how to develop a quality program. They also talk about Karen’s career journey and her advice for other practitioners.
Breaking Down the Washington State My Health, My Data Act With Mike Hintze
Jan 25 2024
Breaking Down the Washington State My Health, My Data Act With Mike Hintze
Mike Hintze is a recognized expert in privacy and data protection with more than 20 years of experience in the field. He is a Member Partner at Hintze Law, a boutique firm that specializes in privacy and cybersecurity. Previously, Mike was the Chief Privacy Counsel at Microsoft, developing his expertise in data protection and privacy policy for over 18 years. He shares his knowledge as an Affiliate Instructor of Law at the University of Washington School of Law and a Senior Fellow of The Future of Privacy Forum. In this episode… Health data remains a pressing issue in the legal space, especially with the rapid advancement of cloud technology. Physical location is becoming less and less relevant as more data is stored away from the patients. Since Washington hosts such massive servers, they have found themselves in the sights of legislative action. The Washington My Health, My Data Act seeks to protect consumers both in the state and those whose data is collected there. Due to the scope of the Act, businesses and legal professionals are still working to understand the resulting nuances. How does this affect businesses and healthcare facilities? Which consents and requirements will be required? Most importantly, how does this tangibly help consumer privacy? In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security Podcast, Justin and Jodi Daniels sit down with Mike Hintze to break down the Washington My Health, My Data Act. They define consumer health data, how it is designed to be protected, and the ramifications for institutions. They also walk through the most vital tips and advice to navigate the new legal parameters.
Updates and Changes in US State Privacy Laws for 2024 With Andrew Kingman
Jan 18 2024
Updates and Changes in US State Privacy Laws for 2024 With Andrew Kingman
Andrew Kingman is the President of Mariner Strategies, a premier law firm where he specializes in privacy technology and cybersecurity issues in all 50 states at the legislative and Attorney General levels. As a public policy advocate with experience in compliance, Andrew brings a unique and substantive perspective to discussions on how to best increase consumer privacy protections while maintaining operational workability and cybersecurity protections for businesses. He is a nationally recognized thought leader in the field — in 2020, Andrew was one of 25 attorneys named to Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly Up & Coming Lawyers list. In this episode… The bustling year of 2023 saw the introduction, passage, and signing of various laws — many of which vary from US state to state. What were some of the year’s most significant regulations? Beyond the passage of privacy bills in seven red states, the passage of Washington state’s My Health, My Data Act was the most astonishing event for privacy lawyer Andrew Kingman. This act is the nation’s first privacy-focused law safeguarding personal health data not already covered by HIPAA. Because of this, Andrew warns that companies doing business with Washington state establishments should consider additional data compliance requirements, security measures, and consumer consent and rights. Since robust security measures are required to protect health and data, companies should be aware of the security standards and protocols outlined in the legislation and implement measures to prevent unauthorized access or breaches — all while respecting individual rights and ensuring transparent practices in obtaining and managing such consent. In today’s episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security Podcast, Justin and Jodi Daniels welcome Andrew Kingman to discuss integral changes in US State privacy law taking place in 2024. Andrew gives insight into the My Health, My Data Act, state legislature criteria for prioritizing certain bills, and why he’s a proponent of companies implementing data protection assessments.
Navigating Privacy Landscapes: US State Privacy Laws, UK Data Protection, and Cross-Border Transfers
Jan 11 2024
Navigating Privacy Landscapes: US State Privacy Laws, UK Data Protection, and Cross-Border Transfers
Robert Bateman is a freelance writer who creates privacy and data protection content for blogs, emails, articles, websites, reports, and white papers. He’s been an industry advocate since 2017 and has interviewed leading figures in the privacy field, including Max Schrems and Johnny Ryan. As a thought leader, Robert is a sought-after speaker and panelist for online and in-person privacy conferences, events, and webinars. Because of his thirst for knowledge and passion for privacy, Robert began providing training and consultancy work in 2023. In this episode… The United States and the United Kingdom have different approaches to privacy and data protection. The US has a patchwork of state privacy laws, while the UK has one unified national data protection law. So how can US companies comply with UK data protection laws when transferring data to the UK? Data privacy and protection thought leader Robert Bateman explains that one of the main challenges is understanding the different requirements of US state privacy laws and UK data protection laws. For example, some US states mandate that companies obtain consent from people before collecting their personal information. In contrast, the UK data protection law does not require consent for all types of data collection. To mitigate the risk of fines and other penalties, US companies should examine their data collection and processing procedures to comply with both US state privacy and UK data protection laws. Companies should also seek the counsel of an experienced data privacy attorney to assist them in understanding their obligations and developing a compliance plan. Join Justin and Jodi Daniels in this episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security Podcast as privacy and data protection content creator Robert Bateman joins the show. Robert explains the challenges UK data privacy professionals face, the difficulties US companies encounter in understanding UK data transfer rules, and why ICO regulators should adhere to cookie compliance.
Decoding Quebec’s Law 25: What Companies Need To Know With Sharon Bauer
Jan 4 2024
Decoding Quebec’s Law 25: What Companies Need To Know With Sharon Bauer
Sharon Bauer is a Lawyer and the Founder of Bamboo Data Consulting, a team of privacy consultants specializing in privacy, security, data strategy, and cutting-edge technology ethics work. As a consultant, she provides privacy solutions for various entities including retail, fintech, health, and education. Sharon is an expert in designing creative privacy programs solving hidden challenges for startups and international corporations. In addition to acting as a virtual chief privacy officer, IT World Canada named Sharon one of the Top 20 Women in Cybersecurity in 2022. In this episode… Quebec Law 25 is Quebec's privacy legislation, which applies to businesses or businesses collecting Quebec data. As a relatively new law, many companies need to know its governance framework. What are the critical concepts of Law 25, and how does it apply to company compliance? Privacy lawyer and consultant Sharon Bauer explains that companies should understand Law 25’s key components: governance, privacy officer, transfer impact assessment, transparency, and employment. However, this privacy legislation does not apply to B2B businesses. Regarding privacy officers, Quebecian CEOs must either appoint a PO or hold themselves accountable for compliance with Law 25. Additionally, companies must adhere to the transfer impact assessment or privacy impact assessment when data is transferred outside of Quebec, when acquiring personal information, or when overhauling electronic service delivery systems involving destroying personal information. Sharon warns that companies that fail to comply with Quebec’s Law 25 are subject to a $25 million fine. In this episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security Podcast, Jodi and Justin Daniels welcome Sharon Bauer, Founder of Bamboo Data Consulting, to examine Quebec’s Law 25. Sharon reflects on her career background, discusses the intersection of Law 25 and the GDPR, and Canada’s basis for Personal Information Protection and Electronics Data Act (PIPEDA).
The Paradigm of Adtech Privacy: Using Data Clean Rooms and Opt-In/Opt-Outs To Achieve Compliance
Dec 14 2023
The Paradigm of Adtech Privacy: Using Data Clean Rooms and Opt-In/Opt-Outs To Achieve Compliance
Noga Rosenthal is the Chief Privacy Officer and General Counsel at Ampersand, a data-driven TV advertising sales technology company. Noga possesses extensive expertise in developing and implementing comprehensive privacy programs and oversees the company’s privacy and legal initiatives. Before Ampersand, she served as Chief Privacy Officer at Epsilon, overseeing the company’s worldwide privacy, compliance, and regulatory activities. She also worked as General Counsel and Vice President for Compliance and Policy for the Network Advertising Initiative, where she managed the NAI’s compliance program and ensured that member companies upheld the promise of self-regulation for interest-based advertising. Noga is a member of the Women Leading Privacy Advisory Board of the International Association of Privacy Professionals and the IAB Federal Privacy Working Group. In this episode… The emergence of the adtech ecosystem has created a data-as-a-commodity paradigm that has given rise to privacy laws and regulations restricting targeted advertising and cookie usage. To integrate evolving technology tools with adtech privacy laws, what are some strategies to employ? Noga Rosenthal, an expert in adtech privacy law, asserts that alliances should be formed within the adtech industry. When teams learn from and communicate with each other, it helps to create transparency about data collection. Therefore, it becomes instinct to share information, obtain consumer consent or opt-outs, and collaborate with the Interactive Advertising Bureau and National Advertising Initiative. Another helpful source is the use of data clean rooms — a secure environment that enables organizations to merge data from multiple sources in order to analyze and share data while controlling how, where, and when it is used. Join Justin and Jodi Daniels on today’s episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security Podcast, where they welcome Noga Rosenthal, Chief Privacy Officer and General Counsel at Ampersand to discuss adtech privacy laws. Noga shares strategies for integrating adtech privacy laws with evolving technology tools, explains the significance of data clean rooms, and advises how companies can manage privacy risks concerning AI technologies.
How Reliance on AI Technologies Places Smaller Businesses at Risk of Ransomware Attacks With Taylor Hersom
Dec 7 2023
How Reliance on AI Technologies Places Smaller Businesses at Risk of Ransomware Attacks With Taylor Hersom
Taylor Hersom is the Founder and CEO of Eden Data, a cybersecurity firm focusing on the next generation of businesses primed to build security and privacy into their DNA. A self-described cybersecurity compliance nerd, he’s passionate about building world-class cybersecurity programs for startups and beyond. Taylor began his career advising Fortune 500 companies on compliance and security at Deloitte before moving on to Renaissance Systems Inc. at RSI, where he was one of the youngest CISOs in the industry. There, he developed an entire security program from the ground up. He’s also a sought-after thought leader who speaks at multiple global organizations, writes blog content on cybersecurity, and serves as a CompTIA Cybersecurity Advisory Council board member. In this episode… Data protection is essential for all companies, including protecting intellectual property and customer data. Once a data breach has occurred, criminals use information like credit card numbers, patents, and trade secrets to engage in multitudes of cyber crimes. What should companies be aware of to protect their data? Due to limited resources and budgets, small businesses and startups are more susceptible to data breaches. This is why many small companies rely on AI technologies to support automated business processes, data analysis insights, and customer engagement. Cybersecurity expert Taylor Hersom explains that AI reliance exposes them to dangers like phishing attacks, deep fake accounts, and AI-powered ransomware. SIM swapping and nation-state cyberattacks, particularly those sponsored by Russia and China, are other threats that put companies at risk of ransomware. Taylor proposes that startups can make a significant impact on security — reducing their breach risk — by allying with legal and security teams. In this episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security Podcast, Jodi and Justin Daniels welcome Taylor Hersom, Founder and CEO of Eden Data, to the show. Taylor discusses the common mistakes companies make concerning data protection, various cyber threats, and why companies should be weary of GRC platforms.
Privacy Lawyer Jennifer Mitchell on Employee Data Privacy Under the California Consumer Privacy Act
Nov 30 2023
Privacy Lawyer Jennifer Mitchell on Employee Data Privacy Under the California Consumer Privacy Act
Jennifer Mitchell is a Partner and the Head of Privacy Governance and Technology Transactions at Baker Hostetler, a law firm specializing in digital risk advisory and cybersecurity, blockchain and digital assets, financial services, and more. Jennifer’s law career spans over 15 years with legal, compliance, and operations expertise. At Baker Hostetler, Jennifer provides business solutions to uphold evolving US state privacy laws in compliance with the General Data Protection Regulation, HIPAA, and California Consumer Privacy Act. In this episode… The amended California Consumer Privacy Act defines employees as consumers. So what does that mean for employee privacy rights? The CCPA affects employee rights by requiring employers to implement security measures to protect employees' personal information. These measures include implementing data security policies and procedures, conducting regular security audits, and training employees on data security best practices. Privacy lawyer Jennifer Mitchell explains that CCPA gives workers the right to request their employers disclose the personal information employers have collected about them. This gives employees the freedom to either opt out of selling their data or have their information deleted from their employer’s records. Additionally, CCPA prohibits companies from discriminating against employees who request their rights. Join Jodi and Justin Daniels in today’s episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security Podcast, where they welcome Jennifer Mitchell, Partner at Baker Hostetler, to discuss employee privacy under the California Consumer Privacy Act. Jennifer discusses the difference between “right to know” and “right to delete,” opportunities for employee privacy rights to build relationships between companies and employees, and how company employee monitoring may potentially violate employee privacy rights.