Jer recounts the journey with his dad through political, theological and ideological disagreement that came to a head in one particularly revealing conversation. Osheta and Jer delve into the lessons learned, emphasizing the importance of adopting a humble posture, prioritizing understanding over being understood, and embodying one’s beliefs instead of resorting to empty rhetoric. Their practical conversation offers a range of ideas and insights applicable to anyone looking for a hopeful way forward in strained relationships where the divides seem only to be widening in the face of difference. Journey of Hope Cohort: https://globalimmerse.org/joh Live Conversation with David Gushee: https://bit.ly/gusheeworkshop Learn more about us at globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate/ Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com