The claws come OUT when Ellie gives Michaela a completely unexpected response to Ariana’s new album. If you don’t want to hear your mommies fight you’re gonna wanna skip to 12 minutes in… Then there are some BIG recaps on the Oscars, Kate Middleton, and Ellie’s latest scandal. The main topic for this episode is religious trauma, which has been heavily assisted with submissions from listeners. Although nothing extremely triggering is discussed, just know this episode touches on themes that *could* bring up sensitivities (but hopefully in a positive way). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices