Please enjoy this unlocked episode of my Patreon-exclusive series "Ellipsis" – the official companion podcast to "An Invitation to DESTROYER" – where I discuss the movie with fellow superfans, critics, and the creators themselves.

Today, my guest is the esteemed Phil Hay: co-writer, co-producer, and co-creator of DESTROYER. During our full conversation, Phil describes the unusual level of involvement he's brokered as a screenwriter, the way Erin Bell's unvarnished shame attracted Nicole Kidman to the role, and how Phil once broke his finger playing football with Logan Marshall-Green.

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