Happy Halloween from The History Things Podcast! For the last couple seasons the guys have brought you fun, spooky episodes for the Halloween holiday and this year is no different.

Ever notice how dark children's rhymes can be? One of the better known in the late 19th and early 20th century, though mostly forgotten today, featured the story of Lizzie Borden and what she may have done to her parents in one of the most famous double homicide's in US history.

This Halloween Pat and Matt got to go on a deep dive into the Borden murders and her sensational trial with author Sarah Miller! Sarah gives the guys the lowdown on her research and her changing view of Lizzie as she wrote her book, "The Borden Murders: Lizzie Borden and the Trial of the Century". This is a fun, if macabre, discussion on murder, the law and the place of women in society near the turn of the last century. Definitely one to check out!

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The poem "Lizzie Borden Took an Axe" at the beginning or the episode is read by Rebecca Param.