In this episode, Robert talks to Howard Lewis Ship about his career, journey to Clojure, Tapestry, Ski jackets and the art of video games.

Credits

• HOST: Our host this week is Robert Randolph
  
• EPISODE COVER ART: Cover design by Russ Olsen
  
• AUDIO PRODUCTION: Bear Cave Audio
  
• PRODUCER:

Jaret Binford
Robert Randolph

• MUSIC: The music at the very beginning of the podcast is Crazy G, played by Russ on a tenor ukulele.
  The main theme music is by Otto Nascarella (aka NASCA).