The Security Masterminds second guest is KnowBe4's Chief Research Officer Kai Roer, who founded CLTRe in 2015 to accurately answer the question, "how do you measure Security Culture?"

In this episode, Kai explains what got him interested in Culture and what we can all learn from it. In addition to understanding how we can measure our security culture, what steps can be taken to strengthen it, and grow it.

We examine the journey organisations are taking along their ABC's. Awareness, behaviour, and culture.