Ben Bechtel is my friend and has sat in more than 350 hours of men’s circles, led and organized men’s gatherings and has been doing the work for years. In this episode we get into what men’s work is, why it’s needed, and why it’s hard to get into. We unexpectedly did some work on air, sharing details about our lives. If you or your partner, family member, or friend are curious about “men’s work,” the deep inner work that ripples outwardly into the world, you’ll enjoy this one.

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