This podcast was recorded in May of 2019. I went down to an undisclosed church in Phoenix with my friend David Sorensen, a big bags of clothes, my piano, and a bunch of drums. The story of the Asylum Seekers is a story without an ending. It’s a story that will keep expanding as more and more people get displaced by the effects of the climate disaster which is interwoven with the effects of insane inequality.

I’ve rarely been able to record my interactions with Asylum Seekers on either side of the border. As I recall, this time they let us keep the recorder going after we had this conversation over lunch. It was me, David, a volunteer from One Hundred Angels, and Jen Buck, founder of All Hands AZ

As I listen to this conversation, it reinforces how much I want to keep learning how to talk to people. And how I want to keep learning how to share these conversations with a larger audience. I want to share how much I believe in the power of participatory inclusive music to evolve our relationships and ourselves into something sustainable on this planet.