Hard work and a drive to be one of the  best Jazz booking and management agents in the country are some of things discussed in this episode. We start from his humble beginnings in Cody, Wyoming to Playing Jazz bass in New York City, to becoming owner of B Natural, Inc.   After some trials and tribulations, and a spiritual quest he wound up at Oberlin College and Conservatory where he honed his skills in everything from Jazz theory, composition and improvisation.  Now he books and manages some the great names in Jazz like Gerald Clayton, Joel Ross, Samara Joy and Theo Croker to name a few.