After the deluge of news that came out of Star Trek Day, Johnson and Mike find themselves with a lack of Star Trek updates to talk about - so they lean into discussing all the current stuff they're watching, including House of the Dragon, The Rings of Power, The Expanse (technically a rewatch), and The Handmaid's Tale. This leads into a conversation about the portrayal of complex characters in TV and Movies, and whether or not Lower Decks gets much deeper than its 2D art style.

We then move onto the focus of this week's discussion, the episode "Mining the Mind's Mines" - which has us following the adventures of Mariner, Boimler, and Rutherford as they battle their fantasies/nightmares, Tendi setting out to prove herself, and Captain Freeman getting caught up in some petty bickering. But we also ask - does this episode offer us anything new? Join our conversation to find out!