Can you imagine a nightly battle where the battleground isn't just your bed, but your own mind? Welcome to the sleepless world of individuals wrestling with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), where intrusive thoughts, compulsions, and the haunting spectre of false memories turn the quest for rest into a Herculean task. In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with mental health counsellor Alnardo Martinez to discuss the difficulties people with OCD encounter when trying to sleep, focusing on the impact of intrusive thoughts, compulsions, and particularly false memory OCD. Martinez offers strategies to manage rumination and improve sleep hygiene, such as using guided meditations and accepting uncertainty. He also emphasizes the importance of working with a therapist and tailoring treatment approaches like ERP, CBT, or ACT to individual needs. The episode concludes with resources for listeners and encouragement for those on their journey to overcoming OCD.   In This Episode [01:20] Understanding the impact of OCD on sleep.[02:23] Common issues with sleep and OCD.[03:52] Strategies for improving sleep hygiene.[06:01] Addressing intrusive thoughts and compulsions.[08:04] Supporting a loved one with OCD and sleep issues.[13:31] Understanding false memory OCD and its impact on sleep.[16:35] False memory OCD and sleep.[17:16] Neutralizing rumination.[18:50] Accepting uncertainty.   Notable Quotes [02:23] "I think a lot of the clients I work with will often say that sleep is a big factor. It's usually interrupted, they get poor sleep, or the quality of sleep isn't good."[08:04] "I think first you want to try to validate those feelings. You want to try to not be dismissive. You don't really want to say, 'Oh, it's not a big deal, just go to sleep.'"[14:24]"What tends to happen, more so like compulsion-wise, could be replaying situations over and over in their mind, trying to convince themselves, 'No, I remember checking out, I remember buying these things.'"[16:35]"This person could be an adult and have a false memory that something happened to them when they were six years old, and that's really not a situation you're going to be able to go back and find any evidence of happening or not happening."[17:16] "I recognize that this is an OCD thought. I may not ever have full understanding of whether this did or didn't happen, and I'm going to work on being accepting of that."[19:21]  "If you're taking an ERP approach, it should be a gradual approach. Maybe you're not sitting with that feeling for something that's a really distressing false memory thought; maybe you've started with one that's a little less anxiety-producing."     Our Guest Alnardo Martinez, a Licensed Mental Health Counselor at the Child Mind Institute, brings over 10 years of expertise in diagnosing and treating OCD and anxiety disorders in children and adolescents. Certified in administering the ADOS-2, he employs tailored interventions such as CBT, ERP, mindfulness, and ACT techniques. Fluent in Spanish, Alnardo conducts workshops on children's mental health and provides bilingual neuropsychological evaluations, dedicated to empowering youth to thrive.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com   Alnardo Martinez https://www.linkedin.com/in/alnardo/https://childmind.org/bio/alnardo-martinez-ms/   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Have you ever considered the profound impact of justice-oriented treatment in the context of OCD, particularly when it intersects with sensitive issues like race-based OCD? How do we create an environment where individuals, especially those from BIPOC communities, feel safe to openly discuss their fears and intrusive thoughts without the burden of judgment or dismissiveness? In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are delighted to welcome Bianca Simmons and Erin Nghe from ERP Kaleidoscope to discuss justice-oriented OCD treatment. They explore how to support BIPOC clinicians and individuals with OCD, emphasizing the need for a safe, empowering environment. The co-founders share insights on incorporating justice into ERP therapy and tackling race-based OCD. They advocate for diversity, clinician empowerment, and education on sensitive OCD themes, providing practical advice for therapists to effectively address these issues in their practice. In This Episode [00:03]Introduction to Bianca Simmons and Erin Nghe[02:39] Explanation of the name ERP Kaleidoscope[05:28] The concept of justice-oriented OCD treatment[07:57]Strategies to support BIPOC clinicians[10:17] Concrete example of justice-oriented ERP[11:47] Client's race-based OCD[13:56] Empowerment and advocacy for clinicians[15:46] Tangible exposures for clients[18:00] The importance of understanding core fears[19:41] Intersectionality in OCD treatment[23:04] Educating clinicians on cultural awareness[24:08] Impact on access and quality of care[25:58] Contact information for further support   Notable Quotes [03:04] “ERP kaleidoscope is all about uplifting the voices of BIPOC clinicians who specialize in OCD as well as the individuals.”- Bianca [04:25] “Oftentimes when people think about OCD, they think about the suffering, and it's really hard to see the beauty. And so we really wanted to highlight how ERP brings out that beauty.”- Erin [06:58] “BIPOC clinicians have to be able to feel safe because that's the only way that they can not only do good work with BIPOC individuals living with OCD but all individuals that have OCD.” -Erin[17:12] “Some clinicians of color have no idea that there is this theme that also latches on to race and so that can be very blindsiding.”- Erin [20:42] “What we're trying to do at ERP kaleidoscope as well, building those safe spaces in terms of healing circles, and just allowing that time for clinicians to be able to heal.”- Bianca     Our Guests Bianca Simmons, an OCD specialist, co-founded ERP Kaleidoscope and owns Bianca Simmons LLC, a mental health private practice in Texas. With extensive experience in severe OCD treatment, she transitioned from managing a residential facility to providing outpatient therapy. Committed to accessibility, she focuses on supporting individuals from underrepresented communities and minority populations, ensuring they have access to the quality mental health assistance they need and deserve. Erin Nghe is a licensed clinical social worker, psychotherapist, and co-founder of ERP Kaleidoscope, a network association supporting Bipoc individuals with OCD and therapists interested in OCD treatment. With 15+ years of experience, she's also the owner and Clinical Director of OCD Set Free, training therapists along the East Coast in Ethical OCD Treatment. Erin advocates for OCD awareness, serving on the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Action Council of the International OCD Foundation and as a faculty member for their Behavioral Therapy Training Institute.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Bianca Simmons https://www.biancasimmonslpc.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-bianca-simmons/https://www.instagram.com/therapywithbiancahttps://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064234050479 Erin Nghe https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinnghe/https://www.ocdsetfree.com/https://www.instagram.com/ocdsetfree/   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

In a society that is gradually breaking down the barriers surrounding mental health, it's disheartening to witness the lingering shadows of stigma that continue to hinder progress. Marginalized communities often struggle to access support and treatment for OCD despite the fact that it affects people from all walks of life. In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are excited to speak with Alexandra Reynolds, a mental health graduate student and IOCDF Advocate.  During our conversation, Alexandra discusses the unique challenges faced by marginalized communities, including the LGBTQ community and people of color, in accessing OCD treatment and overcoming cultural stigma. She shares her personal journey of self-acceptance and the importance of finding supportive communities outside of family systems. The conversation also touches on the role of technology in building connections and the significance of prioritizing mental health. Alexandra offers hope to listeners, affirming that everyone is worthy of recovery and a fulfilling life beyond OCD.   In This Episode [00:42] Introduction to Alexandra [02:07] Stigma and access to treatment[04:27] Cultural differences in mental health[06:40] Family dynamics and acceptance[09:54] Navigating identity and acceptance[11:48] Seeking support and advocacy[16:43] Building supportive communities[18:12] Acceptance and building relationships[18:39] Challenges of being open about OCD[19:18] Encouragement to seek support[20:35] Alexandra’s word of hope: Worthiness of recovery   Notable Quotes [05:37] "I had people tell me that the reason I have mental illness is because I am possessed by a demon and that I just need an exorcism.” -Alexandra[17:14] “Life is still kind of unfair and I can't be out everywhere and not everyone accepts me or understands me, but also, I have some really amazing humans in my life who do.'" -Alexandra [18:39] "You may live in a place where you can't tell everyone you have OCD, or you may work at a place where you can't tell everyone you have OCD.” -Alexandra [20:35] “You are totally worthy of it. OCD, stigma, shame, societal expectations—they make us feel that we're not worthy for all these different reasons. But that's not true.” -Alexandra   Our Guest Alexandra Reynolds is a dedicated IOCDF Advocate and mental health graduate student, committed to raising awareness of OCD and providing evidence-based support. Her personal journey with OCD fuels her mission, especially in advocating for marginalized communities. As a first-generation Latinx, she actively works to destigmatize mental health care.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Alexandra Reynolds https://www.instagram.com/alexandraisobsessed/?hl=enhttps://www.tiktok.com/@alexandraisobsessed   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

In our ever-evolving understanding of mental health, we often fixate on finding a cure or a quick fix for conditions like OCD. But what if we reframed our approach to embrace a journey of skill-building instead? This powerful concept lies at the core of Mark's advocacy for individuals living with OCD. Join us in today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, where we're thrilled to welcome Mark Freeman, a renowned mental fitness coach and author of "You Are Not a Rock." With over 4 million views on his YouTube channel, Mark's empowering approach to mental health is both refreshing and inspiring. During our conversation, we delve into the concept of OCD recovery, emphasizing skill development over the idea of being "recovered." Mark uses the analogy of learning to swim to illustrate managing life with OCD, highlighting adaptability and setting intentions to stay present amidst intrusive thoughts. We also explore the "uncertainty budget" and the impact of a rapidly changing world on mental health. Join us for insights into gradual tool adoption and the importance of avoiding instant solutions. Don't miss out!   In This Episode [00:57] Mark Freeman's YouTube channel[03:10] Approaching recovery[05:42] Flexibility in mental health[07:46] Understanding recovery[08:51] Tools for managing OCD[13:30] Sitting with fear[15:57] Quality time with friends and intrusive thoughts[16:41] Setting intentions in social situations[17:35] Cutting out compulsions and fears[19:37] Starting with the basics[20:24] Accepting imperfection and practice[22:14] Adapting to modern-day stress[23:09] Managing uncertainty budget[25:08] Gratitude and finding stability Notable Quotes [03:57] "What helped me is approaching recovery as more like learning how to swim." -Mark[17:35]"I want to get good at having conversations with people in choppy water while having angry monsters and intrusive thoughts, and that's what I'm going there to practice." - Mark[18:37] "I've been teaching my brain all day through all these kind of normal activities that we should control what other people think, so it's natural I'll just want to keep doing that in that situation."- Mark[25:52]” Everybody, take care of your uncertainty budget; you don't have uncertainty credit cards, you can't go over budget.- Mark   Our Guests Mark Freeman is a seasoned data strategist likening data management to racing - a vital yet often overlooked component. With a passion for integrating data seamlessly into tech ecosystems, he champions the concept of "shifting data left," advocating for collaboration between data and software engineering teams. Mark's expertise lies in optimizing data flow, ensuring businesses harness their data assets effectively for success.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Mark Freeman https://www.linkedin.com/in/mafreeman2/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJzijIM4ED3ukn0GJRWZwhwhttps://www.instagram.com/markwfreeman/https://linktr.ee/mwfreeYT/everybodyhasabrain Mentioned Book You Are Not a Rock:https://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Rock-Step-Step/dp/0143132601   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Have you ever wondered why some people don't seem to have success with ERP therapy, despite its proven effectiveness?  ERP has helped countless individuals regain control of their lives and find relief from the debilitating symptoms that often accompany anxiety disorders. However, it's essential to recognize that despite the effectiveness of ERP therapy, there are common mistakes that people make which can hinder their progress In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, sit down with Ben Eckstein, a renowned expert in the treatment of anxiety and OCD, and the owner and director of City Anxiety and OCD Treatment Center in Durham, North Carolina. During our conversation, we explore the nuances of treating OCD with exposure and response prevention (ERP). We discuss the importance of managing mental compulsions and rumination, emphasizing the need for a diverse set of coping skills and intentional practice. Our conversation also covers the influence of attachment styles on OCD and the significance of addressing underlying psychological factors. Ben shares insights on building trust in relationships and concludes by discussing his book, "Worrying is Optional."   In This Episode [00:43] Introduction to Ben[01:26] Ben’s involvement with OCD North Carolina[02:59] Identifying ERP pitfalls[04:46] White knuckling and acceptance[06:19] Approaching uncomfortable feelings[15:57] Managing downtime and mental compulsions[25:38] Developing diverse coping skills[28:17] Attachment theory in the context of OCD[31:13] Trusting in yourself and others[32:38] The role of experiential learning    Notable Quotes [05:32] "Acceptance is a process, it's not an outcome." - Ben[12:34] “I think that process of worrying, ruminating all the, the sort of over-analysis and examination that we do, these are complicated behaviors.” -Ben [29:23]” I always think OCD is lazy. Like it's going to take the easiest path to like, hey, like where is this person vulnerable.” -Ben   Our Guests Ben Eckstein is the owner and director of Bull City Anxiety & OCD Treatment Center, he moved from Massachusetts to North Carolina in 2014. Trained at McLean Hospital’s OCD Institute, he boasts over a decade of experience in treating OCD and Anxiety Disorders. Serving as VP of OCD North Carolina, Ben offers training and workshops, alongside his clinical work. He is also the author of  "Worrying is Optional" a book that tackles anxiety and rumination head-on.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Ben Eckstein https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-eckstein-ba395919/https://www.bullcityanxiety.com/https://www.instagram.com/bullcityanxiety/ Mentioned Worrying Is Optional   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Did you know that our genes can tell a story about our predisposition to OCD and addiction? Well, our genetic makeup isn't our destiny, but rather a blueprint that can be influenced by our environment. It's fascinating to think that we have the power to turn certain genes on or off! In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are excited to welcome Dr. Evelyn Higgins, a trailblazer in understanding the intricate dance between our genes and our environment, especially when it comes to OCD and addiction. During our conversation, we talk about the genetic and environmental aspects of OCD and addiction. We explore how personalized lab work can reveal unique physiological traits and genetic predispositions that contribute to these conditions. Dr. Higgins emphasizes the importance of understanding one's genetic makeup to make informed choices and potentially alter the expression of genes through environmental changes. We also discuss the affordability and accessibility of personalized treatment, the potential for insurance coverage, and the services offered by Wired Bio Health. In This Episode [02:26] - Genetic standpoint of OCD and addiction[03:29] - Impact of environmental factors on gene expression[10:52] - Correlation between OCD and addiction[14:19] - Importance of personalized lab work[16:47] - Overview of traditional approaches to treating OCD[18:58] - Affordability and insurance coverage[20:43] - Accessibility and flexibility of treatment[22:44] - Advancements in mental health and addiction treatment[23:41] - The future of mental health screening Notable Quotes [02:38]  "We're not healthy one day and sick the next, or healthy one day and addicted the next. It's all the living that we do in between that brings us to either end of that spectrum." - Dr. Evelyn Higgins[02:50] “From a symptomatic standpoint, there are so many correlations that we see that bring somebody towards the addiction side of things, be it anxiety, be it depression, be it agitation.” - Dr. Evelyn Higgins[18:35] "There are so many more advances that have been made that people are not educated on and aren't using just because they don't know." - Dr. Evelyn Higgins Our Guest Dr. Evelyn Higgins is the founder and CEO of Wired Bio Health (formerly Wired for Addiction). Dr. Higgins is not only an expert in the epidemiology of addiction but also a certified addictionologist, a diplomat of the American College of Addiction Allergy and Compulsive Disorders, and a diplomat of the American Board of Disability Analysts specializing in pain management. With over 17 years dedicated to mental health and addiction research, she recently graced international stages as a TED speaker panelist, solidifying her status as a top innovator in healthcare. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Dr. Evelyn Higgins https://doctorhiggins.com/https://www.wiredbiohealth.com/Understanding Genetic Markers of Addiction **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Not many people fully disclose their journey with OCD. Perhaps it's the fear of acceptance or the weight of society's stigma that keeps them silent. But what if we told you that an OCD diagnosis doesn't mean a life sentence of struggle and despair? The healing starts with a simple, yet daring act - opening up.  In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with Erica Lugo, a remarkable guest whose journey with OCD is both inspiring and enlightening. Erica's story begins with an abrupt onset of OCD symptoms that turned her life upside down. She found herself grappling with intense anxiety, sleepless nights, and a sense of dysfunction that she couldn't shake off. During our conversation, we discuss Erica's journey with OCD. Erica shares her initial struggle with the sudden onset of symptoms, the challenges of accepting her diagnosis, and her quest for effective treatment. She talks about the importance of addressing both the physical and psychological aspects of OCD, the impact of her public persona on her decision to be open about her condition, and the need to break the stigma surrounding mental health. In This Episode [01:05] - Erica’s Journey with OCD[02:39] - Experiences with diagnosis and treatment[05:50] - Challenges of finding appropriate treatment[05:54] - The impact of hormonal imbalance on OCD symptoms[07:40] - The use of ERP therapy[11:14] - Erica's experience as a public figure with OCD[13:39] - Transformation and healing[14:30] - The impact of OCD on life[15:19] - The importance of daily practice in managing OCD.[16:44] - Embracing the diagnosis of OCD[18:59] - The realization that compulsions are not always physical[20:02] - The impact of medication on OCD Notable Quotes [01:44] “I'm someone who I felt like I've never had any mental health battles my whole life. I've never had anxiety or depression or OCD until all of a sudden, I feel like a light switch just kind of went off.” - Erica[14:49] “In OCD, it's not a life sentence, but OCD will tell you it is.” - Erica[15:40] “It is okay to not know what's going to happen next, and it's okay to be okay with the unknown and learn to accept that.” - Erica[20:02] "Medication may not work for you, may make you sick or worse, as it did for me, but just keep going because you can get through it without medication if that's the path for you." - Erica Our Guest Erica Lugo, known from "Biggest Loser" and as a women's wellness influencer, is a loving wife and mom. Passionate about fitness, she shares tips and embraces all things Halloween and dogs. Erica, diagnosed with OCD, courageously advocates mental health awareness, inspiring others to overcome challenges. Through social media, she spreads positivity, making her a relatable and uplifting figure for those seeking a healthier, happier life. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.comKristina Orlova’s headshot courtesy of https://www.corporateheadshots.ai/ Erica Lugo https://stan.store/EricaFitLovehttps://www.instagram.com/ericafitlove/ **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Do thoughts of religious sin and moral purity consume your every waking moment, leaving you trapped in a never-ending cycle of guilt and doubt? In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast we are joined by Justin Hughes, a licensed professional counselor with dual expertise in psychology and theology, Justin brings to the table a wealth of vital knowledge on the intersection of faith and OCD. During our conversation, we shine a light on a lesser-known facet of OCD: scrupulosity. This variant explores an individual's deepest discomforts, tapping into their spiritual beliefs and creating perplexing doubts. We explore how intrusive thoughts affect individuals with faith-based OCD, providing examples like doubts about salvation or the correctness of prayers. The discussion also covers the challenges of treating scrupulosity, particularly within a religious context, and how exposure and acceptance commitment therapy can align with Christian values. In This Episode [02:36] - Understanding Scrupulosity[09:46] - Challenges and internal conflict[13:11] - Approach to treatment[16:57] - Importance of honesty and truthfulness in treatment[18:49] - Facing scrupulosity and superstitious obsessions[19:41] - Overcoming avoidance behaviors[23:07] - Paralyzing impact of scrupulosity[24:19] - Challenges in exposure therapy for scrupulosity[26:21] - Building trust and vulnerability in recovery[27:49] - Finding community and support Notable Quotes [07:32]” Most of the time, the person with OCD is, in my experience, usually pretty clear about the perspective. What they're trying to get clear on is the feeling and the fact that it feels like they're in a bad place.” - Justin[10:36] "There's hope. You're not alone; there's help. Many, many, many are walking this road currently, and many have done it before.'" - Justin [13:41] "Thoughts, whether random or intrusive, reside within us. The key is acknowledging their presence and shining light on the truth." - Justin[23:39] “I don't think scrupulosity is worse than contamination. I don't think contamination is worse than scrupulosity.” - Justin Our Guest Justin Hughes is a licensed professional counselor and owner of Dallas Counseling. He is a dedicated clinician and writer committed to supporting individuals affected by OCD. As a member of the OCD and Faith Task Force and Dallas Ambassador for OCD Texas, he leverages dual training in psychology and theology to explore the intersection of faith and OCD, offering diverse clients valuable insights and assistance. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Justin Hughes https://www.justinkhughes.com/https://www.instagram.com/justinkhugheslpc/ **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Our minds are fascinating realms capable of producing a myriad of thoughts, some fleeting and inconsequential, while others persistently tug at the edges of our consciousness. For individuals grappling with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), this mental landscape can be particularly challenging to navigate. One crucial aspect of understanding OCD lies in differentiating between automatic and intentional thoughts, unraveling the intricate dance of the mind, and shedding light on the often misunderstood concept of thought-action fusion. In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with Michelle Massi, a licensed marriage and family therapist with over 15 years of experience treating Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Michelle has a private practice in Los Angeles and has worked at the UCLA OCD Intensive Treatment Program and the UCLA Childhood OCD Anxiety and Tic Disorders Program During our conversation, we discussed the difference between automatic and intentional thoughts, particularly with intrusive thoughts experienced by individuals with OCD. Michelle explains the concept of thought-action fusion and emphasizes that having a thought does not define a person's character. She also discusses the role of guilt and shame in OCD, encouraging individuals to have self-compassion and recognize that everyone has negative thoughts or biases. The conversation also touches on exposure and response prevention therapy. In This Episode [03:27] Automatic and intentional thoughts[03:36] Thought-action fusion[07:31] Overly paying attention to negative thoughts[08:06] Automatic and intentional thoughts (revisited)[09:42] Labeling thoughts[13:38] Certainty and uncertainty[15:44] Imaginal exposure scripts[16:28] Pushing clients beyond normal limits[19:49] Alternative approaches to imaginal exposures[23:14] Guilt and shame from judgment[24:40] Recognizing intrusive thoughts[27:30] Self-compassion and inner conversation Notable Quotes [09:15] "If I have the thought, like, what if this bad thing happens, I have 100% control over whether or not I'm going to do anything with that thought." - Michelle[13:39] "I don't need to solve a problem that doesn't exist yet. I haven't yet stabbed somebody, so I don't need to worry about whether or not I'm going to." - Michelle[22:02] "I don't need to sit there going, 'Oh my God, I didn't die. It's like, I don't know if I did or not. And right now I'm doing the dishes, so I'm going to focus on doing the dishes. I don't need to have this argument." - Michelle[29:42] “You’re not alone. You can get help, find support, and find a community to connect with.” Our Guest Michelle Massi is a seasoned mental health professional with over 15 years of expertise in treating Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and anxiety disorders. As the former Associate Clinical Director at the UCLA OCD Adult Intensive Treatment Program, she navigated the complexities of comprehensive care. Michelle's commitment to advancing the field is evident through her role as an International OCD Foundation (IOCDF) BTTI faculty member and a consistent presenter at the IOCDF Conference from 2009 to 2023. With a focus on education and collaboration, she extends her impact by offering training and consultation to clinicians, clergy members, and family members, contributing to the broader mental health community. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Michelle Massi https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmassi/www.anxietytherapyla.com **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

When it comes to finding effective ways to help people dealing with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), the search for better treatments is an ongoing journey. Traditionally, we've relied on therapies and medications, but there's a new and somewhat controversial idea gaining attention – psychedelic therapy. In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast,  we have the pleasure of hosting Natalia Aíza and Matthew Williams, the founders of Kairos Wellness Collective. Natalia Aíza, an LPC is a passionate mental health advocate who has personally journeyed with OCD. Matthew Williams, a clinical herbalist, brings a wealth of knowledge from his advanced degree in traditional Chinese medicine and his upbringing in South Korea. Both Natalia and Matthew have extensive knowledge about psychedelic treatment for OCD and herbal natural remedies. During our conversation, we discussed their holistic approach to treating OCD, incorporating traditional Chinese medicine, herbs, and psychedelic treatments like ketamine. We emphasize the importance of a controlled setting for ketamine therapy and the potential for lasting change through regular sessions and integration activities. We also discuss the need for flexibility in treating OCD, as it presents differently in each individual. In This Episode [03:30] The current research for psychedelic treatment for OCD[04:57] The shift from ego-centric OCD to ego-tonic OCD[06:35] Effects of psilocybin and ketamine on neuroplasticity and anxiety reduction[08:46] The IV setup and referral list[09:37] The science behind ketamine[17:18] Psychedelic medicine and therapy[18:13] Incorporating EMDR and safe container[19:17] Dosing and perspective with ketamine[25:14] Flexibility in OCD treatment[25:49] Kairos Wellness Collective Notable Quotes [09:43] "Am I spending my time doing the things that I care about? That's what ketamine did for me." - Natalia[19:19] “Since by nature, you know, ketamine and other psychedelics are just associative. And so we must make sure that we get you back into your body and you feel comfortable so that you're connected." - Matthew[23:14] "Ketamine is an incredibly safe drug that we know exactly how to dose it, it's been studied extensively with OCD and it's very effective." - Natalia Our Guests Natalia Aíza, a multicultural counselor, prioritizes active client participation in her modern, goal-oriented therapy. With diverse international experience, including creating a play therapy program in a Shanghai orphanage, she practices transformative therapy at Kairos Wellness Collective in Boulder, integrating outdoor activities with her therapy dog, Miszu. Matthew Williams, a clinical herbalist rooted in Traditional Chinese Medicine, enhances well-being through personalized consultations and holistic treatments. Raised in South Korea, he combines acupressure, Tui Na massage, and dietary therapy, drawing from his own experiences with OCD and the Autistic spectrum to support individuals with Neurodiversity in customized sessions for holistic healing.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Matthew Williams and Natalia Aíza https://www.kairoswellnesscollective.com/https://www.instagram.com/kairoswellnesscollective   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

In the realm of mental health treatment, evidence-based approaches are the guiding lights that lead individuals toward recovery. The journey to understanding and effectively treating obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) has witnessed a fascinating evolution, marked by various therapeutic approaches that delve deep into the intricacies of the human mind. In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are thrilled to be joined by Dr. Jon Abramowitz, a leading figure in the field of OCD research, with numerous published books and research articles to his name. He is a Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience, Research Professor of Psychiatry, and Director of the Anxiety and Stress Disorders Clinic at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He also runs a small practice specializing in the psychological treatment of OCD. During our conversation, we talked about evidence-based treatments for OCD. We discuss the effectiveness of exposure response prevention (ERP), acceptance commitment therapy (ACT), and inference-based cognitive-behavioral therapy (ICBT). Dr. Abramowitz emphasizes that all three treatments have been proven effective, but the effectiveness varies for each approach. He also highlights the importance of a therapist and client believing in the treatment. Our conversation also covers the importance of not avoiding fears and triggers and the need for more independent research on these treatments. In This Episode [01:55] Defining evidence-based treatment[05:01] The importance of therapist belief and client belief[07:27] Inference-based CBT and its differences[08:46] The cognitive component of ICBT for OCD[11:58] ACT's approach to values and exposure[16:45] Exposure therapy in ACT and ICBT[18:42] Alternative approaches to exposure[24:07] Empowering clients through exposure[24:36] The importance of engaging with fears[25:44] Recovery doesn't mean a life without triggers[26:35] Anxiety and distress management[33:26] The rise of ACT in OCD treatment[36:21] The importance of independent replications in ICBT and ACT research Notable Quotes [03:21] "My viewpoint is that there shouldn't be a versus. We're all trying to make life better for folks who have OCD, give them treatments that they need to reduce their obsessions and their compulsions." - Jon[06:11] "To have long-lasting improvement from an irrational fear as we see in OCD, the person has to face that fear. They have to engage with it and they have to learn. I can manage this." - Jon[19:08] "A person with OCD, they're not going to overcome their problem if they're not able to engage with their feared stimuli and learn something from that, that they can do it and that the situation is not as dangerous as they think."- Jon[37:57] "If we could find a treatment that works for everyone, I think we'd have a lot of people converting and giving up whatever they've been doing before." - Jon Our Guest Dr. Jon Abramowitz, PhD, ABPP, holds positions as Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience, Research Professor of Psychiatry, and Director of the Anxiety and Stress Disorders Clinic at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Renowned for his expertise in anxiety disorders, he has authored over 250 publications, including articles, book chapters, and books. Dr. Abramowitz is the Editor of the Journal of Obsessive–Compulsive and Related Disorders and contributes to various editorial boards. As a former president of the Association for Behavioral and Cognitive Therapies, he plays a pivotal role in advancing the field. Recognized with prestigious awards, his influential works cater to both the general public and mental health professionals, addressing topics from overcoming OCD to stress management. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Dr. Jon Abramowitz https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-abramowitz-a159a2257/http://jabramowitz.com/ **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are excited to feature Peter Cannon, a young, talented writer, and director who's making waves with his debut feature film, "Exposure". Peter's film is a breath of fresh air in the way it portrays OCD. It's not your typical Hollywood representation - it's raw, real, and resonates with the lived experiences of those battling OCD. Peter, who has personally grappled with OCD for over a decade, has poured his heart into this project, ensuring an accurate portrayal of the disorder. During our conversation, we discussed the importance of understanding OCD, its impact on people's lives, and how it's often misrepresented in media. Peter shares his personal experience with OCD and his desire to portray the disorder accurately in his film. We also explore the broader themes of the film, such as the correlation between OCD and drug abuse, trauma, and the effects on relationships. Peter emphasizes the film's message about accepting uncertainties, which is relevant to everyone, not just those with OCD. In This Episode [01:08]  What prompted Peter to make the film "Exposure" and its connection to OCD[02:07] The limited representation of OCD in the media[05:01] Goals of the film "Exposure"[08:09] The message of the film[09:08] Living with a non-zero chance of fear[11:55] The impact of OCD on relationships[14:20] The failures of American healthcare[14:46] Correlation between trauma and OCD[18:28] The limited representation of OCD in movies Notable Quotes [01:48] “I saw many different therapists, tried many different medications, I didn't see a whole lot of representation of what OCD was, at least from where I was sitting in the media.” - Peter[01:57] “A lot of the examples I've seen of OCD, long before all this, was like Jack Nicholson in 'As Good as it Gets' or ‘Monk’. And that's not to say those representations are wrong, it's more the idea that it's a narrower definition.” - Peter[09:33] “The idea that you have to live with a non-zero chance of your worst fear happening also applies to regular people. It is a message that really resonates with folks who are in the middle of various types of OCD therapy, but it's also something that people without OCD can wrap their heads around.” - Peter[12:42] "Obsession doesn't just bring you down, but it can bring the people around you down. And that's something I feel like a lot of us can relate to.” - Peter[15:21] “OCD can show up in different ways as you either get older or have certain traumatic experiences, or you just go through puberty.” - Peter Our Guest Peter Cannon is a young writer and director who has made significant strides in the film industry. A graduate of Emerson College, Peter has directed a variety of projects, including shorts, commercials, and virtual reality experiences. His debut feature film, "Exposure," is a testament to his belief that entertainment and story can coexist and that the most potent messages can be found in genre films. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Peter Cannon https://www.discomfortsthepoint.com/https://www.instagram.com/exposure_movie/https://www.instagram.com/peter.cannon/ **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Imagine finding a new way to help with OCD that's different from the usual methods – it's called Accelerated Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS). Think of it like this: your mind sometimes gets stuck, like a skipping record. With Accelerated TMS, it's like giving your brain a gentle push to get out of that loop. This could be a big deal – a way to change things and give hope to people dealing with the ups and downs of OCD. In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are delighted to be joined by two distinguished guests, Dr. Noah DeGaetano and Dr. Ryan Vidrine. Both are renowned experts in treating Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). During our conversation, we talked about innovative treatments for OCD. We discuss the accelerated transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) approach, which has shown promise in treating OCD. The treatment's financial aspects and insurance coverage challenges are also addressed. The potential therapeutic benefits of substances like MDMA, psilocybin, and ketamine in treating mental health conditions are explored, with ongoing trials for using psilocybin in treating OCD mentioned. We conclude with a discussion on the importance of a calm and comfortable setting for therapy. In This Episode [02:23] Introduction to Accelerated TMS treatment[05:05] Insurance coverage for Accelerated TMS treatment[07:10] The cost of treatment and insurance coverage[08:12] Financial considerations and options for treatment[09:25] Results and efficacy of accelerated TMS treatment[14:31] The use of MDMA, psilocybin, and ketamine in treating mental health disorders[15:33] The need for more research on psilocybin for OCD[16:33] Comparing the effects of Lexapro and psilocybin on thought suppression and rumination[21:35] The setting and preparation for psilocybin therapy[23:02] The concept of set and setting in psychedelic therapy[24:59] Patient experiences with psilocybin therapy and the importance of proper design and location Notable Quotes [11:33] “TMS is a bridge. It is not the whole answer. It's like you have a different brain after you've had TMS.” - Dr. Vidrin[14:26] “In the realm of healing with MDMA, the therapy environment is the canvas where transformation takes shape—a sanctuary for profound change.” - Dr. Vidrine[18:36] “Lexapro helped with rumination, but psilocybin seemed to help a little more. And Lexapro did not help with thought suppression, and it seemed like the psilocybin did.” - Dr. DeGaetano[15:50] “A lot of times what they're doing now is low dose psilocybin and high dose psilocybin, essentially, and using psilocybin as the control for this placebo-controlled trial, which is kind of considered the gold standard in medicine.” - Dr. DeGaetano Our Guests Dr. Noah de Gaetano, a board-certified psychiatrist, serves as Chief Medical Officer at Acacia Mental Health, Sunnyvale, CA, with 15+ years of expertise. Renowned for his work in Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation, he founded and directed the TMS program at Palo Alto Medical Foundation, contributing significantly to psychiatric advancements and patient care. Dr. Ryan Vidrine, an interventional psychiatrist, completed his residency at UC San Francisco and directed OCD services at a leading practice. With expertise in OCD and anxiety disorders, he employs medication, psychotherapy, stimulation treatments, and innovative approaches like ketamine and psychedelic therapies to guide clients toward authentic, liberated living. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Dr. Noah DeGaetano https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-degaetano-a963251/https://acaciaclinics.com Dr. Ryan Vidrine https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanvmd/www.ryanvmd.com    https://www.instagram.com/ryanvmd/   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Think about this: have you ever tried to find peace and meaning through your spiritual practices, like meditation or prayer, only to have nagging, bothersome thoughts and habits that just won't leave you alone? This is the intersection of OCD and spirituality, and it's a complex place where your quest for spiritual connection and the constant demands of OCD come together. In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, I’m joined by Lucy Grantz. Lucy is a licensed marriage and family therapist who specializes in therapy for teens and adults struggling with OCD. During our conversation, we discussed the intersection of OCD and spirituality. We share personal experiences of how spiritual practices can become compulsions for individuals with OCD, such as over-reliance on tarot card readings or healers. We emphasize the importance of distinguishing between engaging in spiritual practices for connection and joy versus using them as compulsions to alleviate anxiety. Our conversation also touches on the rigidity of OCD and the need for grounding.   In This Episode [01:17] The relationship between OCD and spiritual practices[04:09] Compulsive behaviors related to tarot cards and astrology[07:09] The impact of OCD on manifestation and law of attraction[08:03] How spiritual practices can become compulsions for individuals with OCD[08:57] How OCD can affect the practice of meditation[09:46] Thoughts as manifestations[17:29] Recognizing the pattern of OCD[21:11] Finding flexibility in spiritual practices[22:43] Compulsions and over-reliance on spiritual practices[23:38] Compulsive over-processing and fixation on the problem[24:11] Finding a balance between helpful practices and compulsions   Notable Quotes [03:11] “I don't want to make it sound like anything I think is bad about any of these spiritual practices, but when OCD latches on, it can start to be compulsive, and that's what we want to avoid, but that's what happened to me for a long time trying to solve my own OCD before I knew I had OCD.” - Lucy[18:54] “With the law of attraction, that whole thing was like, well, I'm not manifesting what I want. So what's wrong with how I'm thinking about it? Or like I have this one bad thought and what will that mean for what I manifest?” - Lucy[24:53] “I think it's not black and white, you know. I think with this whole thing we're trying to get back to that life is gray. OCD wants it to be one or the other but there are no rights and wrongs. Everything can be helpful and it's about us finding our own path and who we really are and our own grounding versus being in a compulsion.” - Lucy   Our Guest Lucy Grantz is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Minnesota, specializing in helping teens and adults overcome Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and Anxiety. Drawing from her own experience with OCD, she is dedicated to supporting others through their struggles. Lucy specializes in mental compulsions, using Inference-Based Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, and collaborates with renowned expert Frederick Aardema. Her background in Buddhism and mindfulness adds a unique dimension to her therapy, and she is well-versed in Exposure and Response Prevention as well as rumination-focused CBT.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Lucy Grantz https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucy-grantz-80110626/https://www.pivotpsychmn.com/about   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Do you ever find yourself double-checking if you locked the front door? Or perhaps you've felt the need to wash your hands repeatedly, even though you know they're already clean? These common experiences might seem like minor quirks, but for individuals with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), they can become all-consuming battles against inferential confusion. In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are thrilled to be joined by Carl Robbins. During our conversation, we discuss the concept of inferential confusion in OCD, where individuals confuse their imagined possibilities with reality. Carl explains the difference between normal uncertainty and obsessional doubt in OCD, and emphasizes that OCD is always in the imagination and disconnected from relevant information in the present moment. The conversation also touches on the controversy between choosing Exposure Response Prevention (ERP) or Inference Based Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy (ICBT) for treating OCD.   In This Episode [01:15] The concept of inferential confusion in OCD[03:47] Differentiating normal uncertainty and obsessional doubt[08:23] How obsessional doubt manifests in checking compulsions[09:20] The difference between doubting processes in OCD and normal uncertainty in everyday situations.[10:27] How obsessional doubt arises in OCD and the role of inferential confusion in creating selective reasoning errors.[12:55] Choosing between ERP and ICBT[19:21] The concept of inferential confusion in OCD and how it relates to finding effective treatment approaches.[20:12] Different models and choices in OCD treatment.   Notable Quotes [07:06] "Obsessional doubt is based 100% on my imagination, and once you cross over into the imagination, there are endless possibilities.” - Carl[15:33] “I think often people will say ERP has been around longer than ICBT... and that if it doesn't work or, you know, very often people will get a response, but they won't go into remission..” - Carl[19:58] “What's so important is to understand that nobody's wrong. These are models. These are theories that are applied to our understanding of OCD and how to treat it.”   Our Guest Carl Robbins is the Director of Training and Senior Clinician at the Anxiety and Stress Disorders Institute of Maryland. With over 35 years of experience treating OCD and related disorders, Carl has been a mentee of Dr. Sally Winston and has attended multiple trainings through the IOCDF, ADAA and ABCT. He has also presented at the IOCDF and ADAA conferences on OCD and recently underwent individual training with Dr. Fred Aardema, the co-developer of Inference-based CBT for OCD. Carl is passionate about promoting the dissemination of ICBT in the US through various platforms, including consultation, teaching, lectures, social media, and podcasts.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Carl Robbins https://www.linkedin.com/in/carl-robbins-3839039/https://www.anxietyandstress.com/ Mentioned https://icbt.online/   **Disclaimer**   Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Bringing a child into the world is often described as one of life's most beautiful and transformative experiences. However, for some new mothers, this journey can be clouded by a silent intruder that lurks in the shadows of their minds – Perinatal Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). As the world celebrates the arrival of a precious bundle of joy, these mothers find themselves battling intrusive, distressing thoughts and compulsive behaviors that threaten to shatter the blissful facade of motherhood. In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are delighted to have Conal Harpur. Conal is a psychotherapist specializing in anxiety disorders and OCD during the perinatal period. During our conversation with Conal, we discussed perinatal OCD symptoms, including intrusive thoughts related to the baby's well-being. Conal explains the thought process and distress experienced by individuals with OCD and emphasizes the importance of finding a therapist who understands OCD and the transition into parenthood. We also discuss different therapeutic approaches for OCD and the correlation between stressors and OCD symptoms. We conclude our conversation by touching on public vs. private practice and the importance of individual readiness for transformative growth.   In This Episode [01:22] What is Perinatal OCD how is it different from OCD?[01:55] Symptoms of Perinatal OCD[05:25] Emotional avoidance in OCD[07:28] Understanding and managing OCD with a focus on specific obsessional topics.[08:03] The unpredictability of OCD and the importance of finding a therapist[09:03] CBT and medication as treatment options.[09:56] Analytic psychotherapy and understanding the sense of self.[14:04] The psychological and therapeutic perspective on perfectionism and its connection to OCD.[18:17] The correlation between stress and OCD symptoms[18:39] The overlap between OCD and obsessive-compulsive personality disorder[22:27] The importance of understanding childhood experiences in OCD treatment[25:50] The core emphasis of public practice: Symptom reduction and stress management.[26:49] The transformative journey vs. disorder treatment[27:37] The importance of being in the right emotional space and readiness for therapy,   Notable Quotes [04:36] “ If I have an intrusive image about me approaching my baby or walking down the stairs and dropping my baby on the stairs is a very common one, I might be more inclined to not engage with my baby for fear that I may act on it.”- Conal[14:09] “An individual may develop kind of perfectionistic traits as a defense mechanism in psychoanalytic terms against the kind of reoccurring unacceptable impulses or thoughts they may have growing up.” - Conal[22:28] “Whenever there's a massive rise in responsibility, there's going to be a massive rise in intrusive images, and that's going to fuel the OCD.”- Conal   Our Guest Conal Harpur, a seasoned mental health professional currently completing his doctorate in psychotherapy, specializes in anxiety disorders and OCD, particularly during the perinatal period. He manages the CBT department at a Dublin maternity hospital and runs a private practice for moderate to severe mental health issues, passionately improving lives through psychotherapy.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Conal Harpur https://ie.linkedin.com/in/conal-jacob-harpur-4902a3200https://www.cbtsolutions.ie/https://www.instagram.com/cognitive_conal/   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Did you ever stop to consider the intricate challenges individuals with OCD face when they embark on their journey towards treatment? Or perhaps, have you thought about the profound ways in which perfectionism can affect their experiences of intimacy and sex? Alternatively, have you explored the complicated links between hoarding behaviours and OCD? In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, I’m thrilled to have Dr. Patrick McGrath, a renowned expert in treating OCD and author of "The OCD Answer Book" and "Don't Try Harder, Try Different" During our conversation, we explore the main obstacles that hinder progress in OCD treatment. Dr. McGrath mentions "wussy exposures" and the importance of practicing exposure response prevention (ERP) techniques outside of therapy sessions. He also highlights the challenge of recognizing OCD's tricks even after making progress in treatment. We also touch on the impact of perfectionism on intimacy and sex, with Dr. McGrath providing strategies for handling intrusive thoughts. We conclude our conversation with a discussion on hoarding and associations with OCD.   In This Episode [01:07] The number one thing that gets in the way of recovery[05:39] Perfectionism and its impact on intimacy and sex[08:14] How to deal with the intensity of OCD attacks[08:47] The importance of stepping out of a situation and taking a break to collect oneself without giving in to compulsions.[10:00] Setting attainable goals for dealing with intrusive thoughts[11:15] Exposing yourself to intrusive thoughts and practising response prevention[16:48] Recognizing the importance of memory[17:22] Associations and moving forward.[18:03] The concept of emotional contaminants in OCD   Notable Quotes [02:08] “Doing ERP without safety behaviours, even the subtlest of safety behaviours are going to be some of the things that aren't going or that are going to really interfere with your ability to get better.” - Dr. McGrath[03:54] “OCD is always going to try to bring you back into the realm of OCD and doing compulsions. Because remember, OCD eats compulsions for breakfast, lunch and dinner. It's the koala of disorders.” - Dr. McGrath[06:13] “OCD likes to tell you it's your best friend and it's ultimately out there for your best interests. So hey, don't go into this situation until you go 100% that everything's going to be okay.” - Dr. McGrath[18:05] “OCD loves to put emotional contaminants on things. You know, there's something bad about this thing or this area and how much then that emotional contamination can spread as well, too.”- Dr. McGrath   Our Guest Dr. Patrick McGrath, a renowned expert in treating OCD and author of "The OCD Answer Book" and "Don't Try Harder, Try Different," presently serves as the Head of Clinical Services at NOCD. He leads therapist recruitment and drives the development of treatment and training protocols, drawing from his extensive experience as the former Assistant Vice President at AMITA Health's Foglia Family Foundation Residential Treatment Center.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Dr. Patrick McGrath https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-mcgrath-37b981/https://www.treatmyocd.com/   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

In the realm of mental health treatment, the evolution of therapeutic approaches is an ongoing journey marked by innovation and discovery. One such breakthrough that has been gaining prominence in recent years is Inference-Based Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy (I-CBT). This cutting-edge approach offers a fresh perspective on how we understand and address our obsessional reasoning process. In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are joined by Amanda Petrik-Gardner, a true expert in the treatment of OCD and related disorders. One of the key points we discuss is the difference between obsessional doubt and reasonable doubt. Amanda really emphasizes the importance of recognizing whether our doubts are based on direct evidence or our imagination running wild. It's all about distinguishing between what's real and what's not. We also touch on the concept of inferential confusion. This is when we arrive at conclusions based on a reasoning process that is based on imagined scenarios, making it difficult to trust our own senses and perceptions. But fear not, because Amanda introduces us to the concept of reality sensing. It's all about regaining that trust in ourselves and our own experiences.   In This Episode [01:19] Obsessional doubt versus reasonable doubt[07:57] Inferential confusion and its resolution[09:12] The role of senses in OCD[11:23] Using reality sensing in therapy[13:19] Comparison of inference-based CBT with exposure therapy[18:57] The role of imagination in OCD[18:45] Resources for learning about CBT[20:03] Accessing the online class "Be OCD Free”.   Notable Quotes [05:27] “We don't tend to act on possibilities until something in the present moment tells us to do so. Once we get that information now, it's reasonable to act on it.”  Amanda [07:41] “Inferential confusion is a fancy word just to say we are confusing reality for imagination. We're distrusting our senses. We're over-relying on possibilities. We're taking things like facts and using them in and out of context.” - Amanda [13:43] “If we can change the doubt, then everything that follows after the doubt is resolved. But what I mean by that is after the doubt comes the fear, the anxiety, and then the compulsion. If we can address the doubt from the beginning, then none of the rest even happens.” - Amanda   Our Guest Amanda Petrik-Gardner Amanda Petrik-Gardner, LCPC, LPC, LIMHP, is a seasoned Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor spanning Kansas and Maine, and Licensed Professional Counselor across Arizona, Colorado, Michigan, and Missouri. She's also the creator of the OCD Exposure Coloring Book. With expertise in OCD, anxiety, and Body Focused Repetitive Behaviors, Amanda offers teletherapy in several states including Florida, facilitating transformative counseling.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Amanda Petrik-Gardner https://www.amandalcpc.com/https://www.facebook.com/AnxietyOCDTreatmenthttps://www.instagram.com/anxietyocdtreatmenthttps://twitter.com/AnxietyOCDTx **Disclaimer**   Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Have you ever found yourself caught in a never-ending cycle of anxious thoughts and compulsive behaviors? Do you constantly feel overwhelmed by the intrusive thoughts that seem to control your every move? If so, you're not alone. Millions of people around the world struggle with anxiety disorders and obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), but there is hope. In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we're chatting with Dr. Reid Wilson, a clinical psychologist who specializes in anxiety disorders and OCD. With his groundbreaking approach, he has helped countless individuals regain control of their lives and find relief from the grip of anxiety. During our conversation, Dr. Wilson shares his incredible self-help program called the 6-Moment Game. This program is all about empowering individuals to effectively manage their obsessions. And let me tell you, it's a game-changer! Dr. Wilson emphasizes that the content of our obsessions is actually irrelevant. It's all about how we handle them. He introduces us to the concept of the 6-Moment Game, which involves being mindful of the present moment and dealing with obsessions and urges as they come up.   In This Episode [00:47] Introduction to Dr. Reid Wilson and his expertise in self-help for anxiety disorders and OCD [01:12] The importance of understanding OCD[03:47] Introducing the concept of the 6-Moment Game[04:22] The “six moments” process[11:58] The importance of moving forward and not getting caught up in the prepositional phrases of obsessions[15:55] Self-help treatment and collaborative therapy[19:10] The importance of provoking distressing uncertainty.[20:22] Creating rules and following a game plan[24:32] Understanding the simplicity and difficulty of the process of managing OCD   Notable Quotes [03:40] “The six moments are a manifestation of what we've learned. So we learn about principles. We understand that we're playing a mental game against this really very powerful disorder. And when we kind of learn those principles, we're going to bring them down into the moment.” - Dr. Reid[23:14] “The brain works best when the unconscious mind is out of the way.” - Dr. Reid   Our Guest Dr. Reid Wilson Dr. Reid Wilson is  a recognized expert in anxiety disorders and OCD self-help for over 30 years and leads Anxieties.com, an Anxiety Disorders Treatment Center. He has authored several acclaimed books, including "Stopping the Noise in Your Head: The New Way to Overcome Anxiety and Worry" and "Don’t Panic," and has appeared on shows like Oprah and Good Morning America. His contributions were honored by ADAA and the OCD Foundation with their highest awards in 2014 and 2019.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Dr. Reid Wilson https://anxieties.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/rreidwilson/   ** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets and sign up for our newsletter: OCD Survival Kit + Newsletter Sign Up   Or if you are ready to dive into workshops to break the grips of your OCD, go to www.korresults.com/e-learning *** Brace yourself for an episode that will revolutionize your perspective on ERP therapy. In this dynamic discussion, we're diving deep into the world of Justice-Based ERP Therapy, a groundbreaking approach that's changing the game for OCD treatment. Join me as I sit down with two leading experts in the field, who shed light on the potent impact of Justice-Based ERP in conquering OCD challenges. From exposure exercises to cultivating resilience, we'll explore how this innovative methodology harnesses justice principles to foster empowerment and healing. Dr. Caitlin Pinciotti: https://www.cmpinciotti.com/ https://twitter.com/cmpinciotti Dr. Lauren Wadsworth: https://laurenwadsworth.com/ https://gviproc.org/   *** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!