Arguing Agile Podcast

Brian Orlando

We're arguing about agile so that you don't have to!

We want to prepare you to better deal with real-life challenges to agile practices by presenting and/or demonstrating both sides of the real arguments listeners will encounter as they progress through their career.

On this podcast, working professionals explore topics and learnings from their experiences and share the stories of Agilists at all stages of their careers. We seek to do so while maintaining an unbiased position from any financial interest.

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AA164 - 10 Proven Techniques to Split User Stories
Yesterday
AA164 - 10 Proven Techniques to Split User Stories
Does your team struggle with large, complex user stories that don't fit in a sprint? 🤔In this podcast, Product Manager Brian Orlando and Enterprise Business Agility Coach Om Patel brainstorm for 10 techniques to split user stories for better flow and faster software delivery. 💡This episode is all about practical tips to slice stories by:Workflow and valuable user paths Personas and rolesSystem and technology bordersBusiness rules and exception handlingNon-functional requirements...and more!Whether you're a Developer, Product Manager, or Executive, we guarantee you'll walk away with actionable ideas to break down your backlog for optimal value delivery - or your money back! 🚀#agile #userstories #backlogrefinement #storysplitting #productowner #scrummaster0:00 Podcast Intro0:17 Topic Intro: Splitting Stories1:12 High-Level: Vertical Slicing1:53 High-Level: INVEST4:10 High-Level: Similar Sizing7:02 By Workflow (and via Valuable Path)8:44 Logistics Example11:32 Mortgage Example12:50 By Persona14:49 Nuances of Persona16:41 Persona Profiles17:50 By System/Technology Border19:58 Amazon Example22:50 By Uses of AND/OR25:47 By Interface29:36 By Business Rules31:07 Logistics Example, Revisited33:00 Mortgage Example, Revisited34:35 Around Dependencies37:07 Fake Door with Feature Toggles39:30 Spikes43:00 Spike Example46:17 To Capture Technical Debt50:19 By Exception Handling53:53 ChatGPT Example, Revisited56:39 By NFR59:03 Wrap-Up= = = = = = = = = = = =Watch it on YouTube= = = = = = = = = = = =Subscribe to our YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8XUSoJPxGPI8EtuUAHOb6g?sub_confirmation=1Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agile-podcast/id1568557596Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/362QvYORmtZRKAeTAE57v3Amazon Music:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ee3506fc-38f2-46d1-a301-79681c55ed82/Agile-Podcast= = = = = = = = = = = =Toronto Is My Beat (Music Sample)By Whitewolf (Source: https://ccmixter.org/files/whitewolf225/60181)CC BY 4.0 DEED (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en)= = = = = = = = = = = =10 Proven Techniques to Split User Stories
AA162 - 5 Things to Analyze Before Shuffling Your Teams
May 1 2024
AA162 - 5 Things to Analyze Before Shuffling Your Teams
Are you (or management) considering shuffling team members to improve performance?Before you play musical chairs, explore the latest Arguing Agile Podcast (Linked in the comments) for ways to make sure you're using data, not just reacting to hearsay and emotions!Organizational design is difficult - don't just stumble through it.We all know shuffling people between teams can disrupt team dynamics and set teams back to the "forming" stage. Listen as Enterprise Business Agility Coach Hemant (Om) Patel and Product Manager Brian Orlando discuss shuffling team members and outline 5 areas to be analyzed to be sure the data justifies change:1. Team processes 2. Communication channels3. Leadership styles4. Workload distribution 5. Interpersonal team dynamics#agileleadership #agilecoaching #teamperformance #organizationaldesign0:00 Podcast Intro0:17 Topic Intro: When Management Shuffles Team Members0:48 Why the Shuffling?2:21 Back to Forming7:30 Om's Team-Shuffling Example9:21 Shortcutting Storming & Forming13:51 Skill (Re)Balancing16:57 Observing Trends19:33 Adding Cross-Functionality20:35 Evaluating Feedback23:43 What Management Thinks - Fresh Perspectives25:58 Lacking Communication Skill27:25 Brian's 5 Suggestions30:14 Impact of Leadership Decisions32:29 Leadership is Difficult35:42 Career Growth38:23 Conflict Resolution40:56 Wrap-Up= = = = = = = = = = = =Watch it on YouTube= = = = = = = = = = = =Subscribe to our YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8XUSoJPxGPI8EtuUAHOb6g?sub_confirmation=1Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agile-podcast/id1568557596Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/362QvYORmtZRKAeTAE57v3Amazon Music:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ee3506fc-38f2-46d1-a301-79681c55ed82/Agile-Podcast= = = = = = = = = = = =Toronto Is My Beat (Music Sample)By Whitewolf (Source: https://ccmixter.org/files/whitewolf225/60181)CC BY 4.0 DEED (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en)
AA161 - How Company Size Impacts Business Agility (with Ed Martin)
Apr 24 2024
AA161 - How Company Size Impacts Business Agility (with Ed Martin)
In this episode of the Arguing Agile podcast, Product Manager Brian Orlando and Enterprise Business Agility Coach Om Patel are joined by Software Development expert Ed Martin for an exploration how company size affects business agility. We discuss the challenges that arise as organizations scale from 3 people to 30 to 300 and beyond, covering topics like losing the culture of experimentation, organizational rigidity, continuous improvement, and the "rule of 3 and 10". Listen as we share real-world examples on how to maintain agility while growing your business. Listen to learn strategies for reinventing your culture, org design best practices, and the importance of having a framework to "work on the business" as you scale. Listen whether you're a founder, agile coach, or product leader and this episode will give you valuable perspectives on navigating the complexities that come with company growth!0:00 Podcast Intro0:17 Topic Intro: Business Agility & Company Size0:47 Brian's Start-up Story1:51 The Rule of 3 and 103:20 Proactive Work on the System5:27 Om's Systems Example7:05 Ed's Planning Example8:11 Example: 3 to 30 People11:20 Example: Growth to 30013:57 Continuous Improvement17:04 Shooting the Messenger19:35 Your 100%23:04 Losing the Experimentation Culture26:15 Business Rigidity and Reinvention28:16 Culture is Past Tense30:10 Reinspection Triggers32:53 Org Design34:57 Gino Wickman: Traction37:49 Working Groups38:45 The Natural Order44:12  Reinventing Organizations48:37 Future Podcasts48:55 Wrap-up= = = = = = = = = = = =Watch it on YouTube= = = = = = = = = = = =Subscribe to our YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8XUSoJPxGPI8EtuUAHOb6g?sub_confirmation=1Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agile-podcast/id1568557596Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/362QvYORmtZRKAeTAE57v3Amazon Music:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ee3506fc-38f2-46d1-a301-79681c55ed82/Agile-Podcast= = = = = = = = = = = =Toronto Is My Beat (Music Sample)By Whitewolf (Source: https://ccmixter.org/files/whitewolf225/60181)CC BY 4.0 DEED (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en)
AA160 - Onboarding New Product Managers
Apr 17 2024
AA160 - Onboarding New Product Managers
Onboarding New Product ManagersIn this episode of Arguing Agile, hosts Product Manager Brian Orlando and Enterprise Business Agility Coach Om Patel dive into the challenges and best practices around onboarding new product managers. Topics include:Communicating the company vision, mission and goals Mapping key players, stakeholders and decision-making processesAligning the new PM's goals to organizational objectivesBuilding and owning the product roadmap Understanding customers, segmentation and building empathyThe importance of mentorship and coaching for new PMsWhether you're a product leader looking to optimize your onboarding or a new PM wanting to hit the ground running, this episode provides actionable tips to set up PMs for success from day one!Roman Pichler's Stakeholder Management Article referenced in the podcast:https://www.romanpichler.com/blog/stakeholder-management-tips-for-product-people/= = = = = = = = = = = =Watch it on YouTube= = = = = = = = = = = =Subscribe to our YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8XUSoJPxGPI8EtuUAHOb6g?sub_confirmation=1Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agile-podcast/id1568557596Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/362QvYORmtZRKAeTAE57v3Amazon Music:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ee3506fc-38f2-46d1-a301-79681c55ed82/Agile-Podcast= = = = = = = = = = = =Toronto Is My Beat (Music Sample)By Whitewolf (Source: https://ccmixter.org/files/whitewolf225/60181)CC BY 4.0 DEED (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en)
AA157 - Embracing Failure: Why "Fail Fast" Beats "Learn Fast"
Mar 27 2024
AA157 - Embracing Failure: Why "Fail Fast" Beats "Learn Fast"
"Fail fast" is used so often, it has become a cliché! In this episode, we tackle rebranding the term "fail fast" to "learn fast" within organizational cultures. Is this a step towards promoting psychological safety and open conversations, or does it undermine the essence of embracing failure as a catalyst for growth? Whether you're a leader, manager, or part of a self-organizing team, this episode offers valuable insights into cultivating a culture that truly values experimentation, iteration, and learning from setbacks.0:00 Podcast Intro0:17 Topic Intro1:11 Negative Connotations of "Fail"2:53 Identifying the Fixed Mindset4:40 Management & Failure5:40 Promoting Psychological Safety, Maybe7:48 Directness & Alignment9:52 Accepting the Change11:19 Setting & Achieving Goals13:30 The Growth Mindset14:22 Slicing Work18:55 Failure & Leadership Reactions22:20 The Fixed Mindset24:00 Acceptable Risk Taking25:53 Self-Organization Gone Awry28:50 Brian's Learnings31:42 Wrap-Up= = = = = = = = = = = =Watch it on YouTube= = = = = = = = = = = =Subscribe to our YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8XUSoJPxGPI8EtuUAHOb6g?sub_confirmation=1 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agile-podcast/id1568557596 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/362QvYORmtZRKAeTAE57v3 Amazon Music:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ee3506fc-38f2-46d1-a301-79681c55ed82/Agile-Podcast= = = = = = = = = = = =Toronto Is My Beat (Music Sample)By Whitewolf (Source: https://ccmixter.org/files/whitewolf225/60181)CC BY 4.0 DEED (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en)
AA156 - "Selling" SAFe PI Planning to a not-SAFe Product Manager (with Special Mystery Guest)
Mar 20 2024
AA156 - "Selling" SAFe PI Planning to a not-SAFe Product Manager (with Special Mystery Guest)
In this episode, our favorite special mystery guest joins the podcast for a comprehensive walkthrough of the PI Planning agenda so that our resident Product Manager, Brian, can be "sold" on the idea.SAFe P.I. Planning is a critical event that aligns teams with business objectives and fosters collaboration across the organization... ...or is it?Drawing from extensive experience, we delve into the benefits of PI Planning, including fostering relationships, securing leadership buy-in, and mitigating risks. We also discuss the challenges teams face, such as managing dependencies, handling missed objectives, and maintaining engagement throughout the intense planning sessions.0:00 Podcast Intro0:17 Topic Intro0:50 Benefits of PI Planning2:20 Big-Room and Quarterly Planning4:35 Product Pre-Work7:06 Portfolio Funding: Lean Business Cases8:43 Staying High-Level11:25 Risks and Objectives12:58 Failing to Meet Objectives14:12 Arguing on: Stretch Goals17:23 Goals: Committed vs Uncommited19:25 Slowly Moving Train-Wrecks23:43 Benefits of In-Person, Hybrid, & Virtual27:57 Facilitating Preparation30:19 SAFe PI Planning Agenda, Day 1 (Pre-Lunch)34:27 SAFe PI Planning Agenda, Day 1 (Post-Lunch)37:04 SAFe PI Planning Agenda, Day 2 (Pre-Lunch)39:31 SAFe PI Planning Agenda, Day 2 (Post-Lunch)41:44 Negotiations45:27 PI Retrospective48:11 Keeping Leadership Engaged52:13 Wrap-Up= = = = = = = = = = = =Watch it on YouTube= = = = = = = = = = = =Subscribe to our YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8XUSoJPxGPI8EtuUAHOb6g?sub_confirmation=1 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agile-podcast/id1568557596 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/362QvYORmtZRKAeTAE57v3 Amazon Music:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ee3506fc-38f2-46d1-a301-79681c55ed82/Agile-Podcast= = = = = = = = = = = =Toronto Is My Beat (Music Sample)By Whitewolf (Source: https://ccmixter.org/files/whitewolf225/60181)CC BY 4.0 DEED (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en)
AA155 - Weaponizing Standardization
Mar 13 2024
AA155 - Weaponizing Standardization
Standardization. It's the battle-cry of managers, the world, over!This episode explores a parallel track to our Weaponizing Efficiency episode where we explore the dark side of standardization. In this episode, the hosts share their experiences and insights on topics such as:The potential stifling effects of rigid processes and monocultures on innovationThe dangers of groupthink and bureaucracy in organizationsThe impact of standardization on individual learning and developmentThe complexities of vendor procurement processes and their ramificationsThe role of handoffs, sign-offs, and stage gates in impeding customer value delivery0:00 Topic Intro: Weaponizing Standardization1:03 Stifling Innovation2:33 Arguing on: Stifling Innovation5:14 A Confusing M&A Story: Standardizing without Value9:39 What Makes You Believe...?10:45 Driving Toward Group Think13:08 Self-Serving Bureaucracy15:02 Google AI Rollback15:34 Challenging Agile Coaches19:41 Losing Market Share24:20 The Desire for Control27:25 Individual Learning & Development29:23 Try Stuff, Do Cool Things34:45 Inconsistent Enforcement of Standards35:26 Disingenuous Procurement Processes40:42 Dell Laptop Example42:12 Hand-offs & Sign-offs47:53 Reducing Wasteful Processes50:46 Wrap-Up= = = = = = = = = = = =Watch it on YouTubeSubscribe to our YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8XUSoJPxGPI8EtuUAHOb6g?sub_confirmation=1 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agile-podcast/id1568557596 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/362QvYORmtZRKAeTAE57v3 Amazon Music:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ee3506fc-38f2-46d1-a301-79681c55ed82/Agile-Podcast= = = = = = = = = = = =Toronto Is My Beat (Music Sample)By Whitewolf (Source: https://ccmixter.org/files/whitewolf225/60181)CC BY 4.0 DEED (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en)
AA154 - Intuition vs Evidence (with CEO and Founder: Alex Polyakov)
Mar 6 2024
AA154 - Intuition vs Evidence (with CEO and Founder: Alex Polyakov)
Some people say you can't build products without being guided by evidence.Some people say you can't build products without strong intuition.We're arguing about the balance so you don't have to!This episode, we also welcome back friend of the show Alex Polyakov, CEO and Founder of Project Simple. Alex and his company are on a mission to make Teams better by building the first ever AI Agile Software Management Platform. Go see what Project Simple is all about by visiting them at projectsimple.ai! Connect with Alex on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/apolyako00:00 Podcast Intro00:17 Topic Intro: Evidence vs Intuition00:58 Relationship Between Intuition & Evidence02:31 Intuition & Experience04:02 Survivorship Bias06:14 Domain Expertise + Curiosity + Leadership09:34 OKRs Done Wrong10:43 Alex, on OKRs12:06 Leading vs Lagging14:57 Experiments, Conceptually19:10 Experiments in Business Value20:58 Product Management (AirBnB)25:17 Coaching Talent27:34 Building the Perfect Product Manager29:25 Enter the Training-Industrial Complex31:04 Transitioning from Founder to First Product Manager33:45 Vision & Company Founders35:24 Examples of Failures37:59 iPhone Example (Risk)40:49 Risk vs Evidence42:41 Misinterpreting Data46:08 Wrap-Up= = = = = = = = = = = =Watch it on YouTube= = = = = = = = = = = =Subscribe to our YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8XUSoJPxGPI8EtuUAHOb6g?sub_confirmation=1 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agile-podcast/id1568557596 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/362QvYORmtZRKAeTAE57v3 Amazon Music:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ee3506fc-38f2-46d1-a301-79681c55ed82/Agile-Podcast= = = = = = = = = = = =Toronto Is My Beat (Music Sample)By Whitewolf (Source: https://ccmixter.org/files/whitewolf225/60181)CC BY 4.0 DEED (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en)
AA151 - Hardware & Software Products and Teams: Agile in Manufacturing
Feb 14 2024
AA151 - Hardware & Software Products and Teams: Agile in Manufacturing
If your product has a combination of hardware and software, this is the podcast for you!This podcast is all about agile in the manufacturing world with manufacturing expert and consultant to the stars, Clint Murt!Clint joins Enterprise Business Agility Coach Om Patel and Product Manager Brian Orlando for an exploration of a realm where just creating great software isn't enough. We quickly discover that, when hardware enters the picture, complex compounds exponentially. Special shout out to the Everything Electric Show and the Fully Charged Podcast for the clip of Ford CEO Jim Farley discussing issues around software in the automotive industry0:00 CEO of Ford Jim Farley on Software in Manufacturing1:23 Clint's Intro & an Overview of Manufacturing3:38 Dependencies5:40 Arguing on: Dependencies & Ecosystems8:33 Challenging Agile Tropes on Dependencies10:43 Compounding Problems12:17 Short Term Metrics14:57 Upfront Cost17:52 Sales Running Ahead21:57 User Experience25:20 Inventory Management30:00 Embedding with Customers35:27 Multi-Team Collaboration37:54 Quality41:34 Summarizing the Podcast43:10 Six Sigma & Lean/Agile44:30 Wrap-Up= = = = = = = = = = = =Watch it on YouTubePlease Subscribe to our YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8XUSoJPxGPI8EtuUAHOb6g?sub_confirmation=1= = = = = = = = = = = =Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agile-podcast/id1568557596Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/362QvYORmtZRKAeTAE57v3Amazon Music:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ee3506fc-38f2-46d1-a301-79681c55ed82/Agile-Podcast= = = = = = = = = = = = AA151 - Hardware & Software Products and Teams: Agile in Manufacturing
AA147 - Creating and Launching New Software Products (0 to 1)
Jan 17 2024
AA147 - Creating and Launching New Software Products (0 to 1)
Have a world-changing product idea but don't know how to get it to users? This no-nonsense episode of the Arguing Agile podcast breaks down the REALITY of building products from the ground up. Listen as two industry veterans discuss market research, MVPs, user feedback, and go-to-market strategies so that you can avoid costly mistakes and boost your chances of success.   0:00 Topic Intro: 0 to 10:36 Hey Kid, I Got This New Idea!1:55 What Problem Are We Trying to Solve?3:42 Identifying a Market and/or Audience for MVP7:18 Research & Product Market Fit8:25 Data-Driven Culture (or Not)12:56 Team Members Talking Directly to Customers14:23 Strong Opinions, Loosely Held17:29 Interview Your Customers (and Competitor Customers)20:19 MVP-to-Pilot24:43 Realtime Alpha/Beta Feedback27:42 Alpha/Beta Misconceptions29:06 Alpha Partners & Clarity of MVP32:27 Leveraging (Technical) Debt34:46 Usability37:53 Monetization41:07 Go to Market Strategies45:40 Find or Create Your Audience48:32 What We Learned50:19 Wrap-Up= = = = = = = = = = = =Watch it on YouTubePlease Subscribe to our YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/@arguingagile= = = = = = = = = = = =Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agile-podcast/id1568557596Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/362QvYORmtZRKAeTAE57v3Amazon Music:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ee3506fc-38f2-46d1-a301-79681c55ed82/Agile-Podcast= = = = = = = = = = = = AA147 - Creating and Launching New Software Products (0 to 1)