Send us a Text Message.Nat and Ang are feeling wistful about the end of Season 1. Things won’t be the same without the thrill of a hot mic this summer. But the gals will survive the break like all schoolgirls do, mostly because they'll be using their hiatus to gear up for Season 2!        Before they sign off, Nat and Ang consider the art of podcasting in all its glory and messiness. Some shocking stats keep things riveting. Some inside scoop, like what it’s like to be an age-diverse podcast team, keeps things scandalous. If it were a homework assignment, this episode would clinch the A. Resources:The Podcasting University: "Five Reasons Why Podcast Fail"Stats: The Podcast IndexPew Research: "Trends and Facts on Audio and Podcasts"Nathan Heller: "The Battle for Attention"Transition music: Gerardo Garcia, Jr. “Piano Lounge Jazz”Title Inspiration: ... and all around cool song by Alice CooperAGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.Mother’s Day is a perfect occasion for intergenerational processing! Nat and Ang take full advantage of this opportunity to explore a disconcerting array of topics: the evolutionary contributions of grandmothers, the panic over plunging fertility rates, the changing expectations of motherhood, how expensive kids are, etc. They even tackle (but fail to answer) the “to be or not to be (a mother)” question. Don’t worry about whiplash. A little artsy/litsy talk helps smooth out the ride.Resources:Kristen Hawkes, “Grandmothers and Human Evolution” "US Fertility Rate Dropped..."Peggy O’Donnell Heffington, "Why Women Not Having Kids Became a Panic""Yuni's Pros and Cons List of Having Children" Michelle Ye Hee Lee and Julie Yoon, "Career or Kids: It's a Tough Choice for These Women"Urban DictionaryJane Bell, "Mother Ate"Leunig, Prayers (God Be with the Mother...)Additional music:The Turquoise Moon, "Like a Butterfly" Raighes Factory, "Peaceful Light"Humans Win, "Tick-Tock Block - Light Mix" Justin Artis, "What's in My Heart"The Turquoise Moon, "Mother’s Day: Hangin’ with Mama" AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.Be not afraid! It’s poetry month at the pod and Nat and Ang are here to cure your BARDOLOTRYPHOBIA. The gals serve up an irreverent crash course in love poetry, from Shakespeare’s sonnets to Solomon’s songs with (almost) nothing and no one in between. Find out which of our featured really famous, really dead poets is the literary heartthrob of the ages. Discover at last why Shakespeare and Solomon sound so much alike sometimes. Along the way, just try to keep track of all the hackneyed metaphors Nat and Ang use to explain things. We dare you. And be sure to stick around for the singalong. Zero credit offered and no homework. Just a romp. RESOURCESPoetic Forms Writer’s DigestSonnets of ShakespeareSong of Songs/Song of SolomonRev. Rob Christ on Song of Songs (TikTok)Zhang Longxi “The Letter or the Spirit”Canonization of Song of Songs (including the views of William Whiston and the Latter Day Saints) Sharon Olds Stag’s LeapOscar Wilde Ave Marie Gratia Plena Poets Mentioned in PassingTyler Knott GregsonRupi KaurTaylor Swift (who?)Mary OliverJust for Fun The Hair of the Head of ShakespeareNew Yorker Radio Hour Podcast: Judi Dench on Bond and ShakespeareTransitional Music and Sound Effects: Jon Presstone, “Fancy and Friendly” and “Renaissance Revelry”Storyblocks, Stadium Sound EffectsAGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.The gals unpack their recent adventures and discoveries––from stray dogs and library story hours to things they wish they had asked recent pod guests. It’s a ride. Nat hums a few bars and ponders eschatology. Ang reads from a kids book and considers the nature of truth-with-a-capital-T. Together they decide that all we need is … well, love, sure … but a good book and a gospel tune help a whole lot too.Sources:  Adam Rex; Lian Cho, Oh No, the Aunts are Here Maya Ajmera, Cynthia Pon and Magda Nakassis, FaithJarvis, The Boy with Flowers in His HairJack R. Gibb, “Defensive Communication” (essay) Gibb Categories (Wikipedia)Michael C. Bender, “The Church of Trump”Jim Wallis, The False White GospelSarah McCammon, The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living  and Leaving the White Evangelical Church"What is Realized Eschatology?"John Shelby Spong, Rescuing the Bible from FundamentalismAdditional Music:Rainforest Audio, “Hide and Seek”The Turquoise Moon, “Serene Guitar Ambience: In Nature”Isha Love, “Good Old Days”AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.If an episode drops on a major Christian holiday, trust the gals not to ignore the drama of it all. Just in time for Easter, they get help from a new friend of the pod, Bart Campolo, who is the son of a famous evangelist and who was a minister in the evangelical tradition himself for decades. That’s right, was. His later-in-life leap of non-faith led him all the way to secular humanism and a new kind of evangelical fervor––spreading the word about the sheer joy of living, heaven and hell be damned. Bart keeps the conversation hopping with takes on how to scientifically conjure worship vibes and how not to let the narratives of the bible be held hostage by the literalists. Exvangelical listeners will especially appreciate his strategies for kindly but true-to-you conversations with those you left behind in the pews. Normal listeners will be fascinated at this peek inside a movement that seems intent on Making America Godly Again.Resources:Bart Campolo, Humanize Me (podcast)Raphael, The School of Athens (painting)Greg Epstein, Good Without God: What a Billion Nonreligious People Do Believe  Tony Campolo and Bart Campolo, Why I Left, Why I Stayed: Conversations on Christianity Between an Evangelical Father and His Humanist Son Leaving My Father’s Faith (documentary)Quem Quaeritas (early dramatization of Easter story within Catholic Mass)Additional Music:Jon Presstone, Fancy and FriendlyRaighes Factory, Peaceful LightTurquoise Moon, Soulful Jazz PianoTransitionJon Presstone, Spirit in the SunriseAGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.Nat and Ang continue their Women’s History Month exploration of all things feminism. This time, their focus is the newly released and fabulous book, Mean Girl Feminism: How White Feminists Gaslight, Gatekeep, and Girlboss!In their wide-ranging conversation with author Kim Hong Nguyen, the gals ask some burning questions. Just who exactly is a mean girl? Is her name Karen, perchance? Is she young or old? Is she racist? Maybe even religious? And whoever the heck she is, how do we stop her takeover of feminism?ResourceKim Hong Nguyen, Mean Girl Feminism: How White Feminists Gaslight, Gatekeep, and Girlboss!Additional MusicTurquoise Moon, Soulful Jazz Piano TransitionAGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.     The best laid plans can and often do go awry. But the best prepared gals always have a backup plan. Maybe even two.     The previously announced interview with Kim Hong Nguyen is slightly delayed, but is now in post production and will be out soon! The good news is that, right on schedule, here’s a new episode. The other good news is that you get to hear Nat and Ang in all their stream of consciousness glory. Everything they have to say is prompted by a single, measly set of scribblings, all of which fit on a post-it note! The conversation flits about like monarchs on a milkweed. And then, just like that, it’s over. Is that what they mean by “winging it?"Resource:Fundie Baby Voice InstagramMusic: Irish Dance by zozoAGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.No, not that one. FEMINISM. Yes, that one. In this episode, we share responses to our sophisticated survey questions: What the heck is feminism? Are you one? How come? (Ok, maybe they were more sophisticated than that.) But the results are clear! Feminism is just as messy and wonderful and crucial and misunderstood as ever . . . you’ll have to tune in for the deets though. What the young'uns and their elders have to say about each other at the Intersection of Gender and Age is a must listen.PS: Apologies for the click bait-y title. The Zoomer won that round. But here’s the Boomer having the last word. Mwahahaha! (And yes, said Boomer looked up how to spell “evil laugh.”)Resources and Survey Responses:Feminist and Anti-Feminist Identification in the 21st Century  Listeners Have a Few Things to Say about Feminism (survey responses)Feminism is for EverybodyUNWomen, New Feminist Activism: Waves and Generations Sarah Pruitt, What are the Four Waves of Feminism? Muskaan Arshad, Girlboss, Gaslight, Gatekeep in a Capitalistic World Lisa Jervis The End of Feminism’s Third Wave Why Bitch Media Closed Shop According to Andi Zeisler GlobalWE (Women's Empowerment)Episode-specific music credits:“Storytime Music Box” by Humans Win“Together We March” and “Serene Guitar Ambience in Nature,” both by The Turquoise MoonAGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.Part 2 of Nat and Ang’s exploration of Whiteness. This time the sources are less bookish, except for Caste, written by Isabel Wilkerson, a national treasure and, well, QUEEN. Check out our resources list to see how scintillating this episode is. Resources:Leslie Jones The Racism Spectrum (video) Saroful How to Survive in Intersectional Feminist Spaces 101 (blog) John Scalzi Straight White Male  (blog)Origin Isabel Wilkerson Caste: The Origin of our Discontent Ava DuVernay Restages History in Origin (video)Isabel Wilkerson interview Dwight Garner review of Caste Mental Health America: Systemic Racism and the White Racial Frame (pdf)The Problem with Jon Stewart (interview with I. Wilkerson) Michelle Norris The Race Card Project (essay)     The Race Card Project Website     Our Hidden Conversations (book)AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.The gals decided to honor Black History Month. Playwrights came to mind as usual—Lorraine Hansberry, August Wilson, Suzan-Lori Parks. Great writers and thinkers: Toni Morrison, Maya Angelou, Audre Lorde, James Baldwin. Visual artists like. . .Hold up. What can White/White passing gals really add to the Black History Month conversation? Not a lot, they figured. So, Nat and Ang decided to explore what makes a Black History Month necessary. Namely, a whole lot of Whiteness going on. A blinding kind of Whiteness. A racial identity all its own that most White people don’t even think of as “race.” As the gals grapple with the privilege Whiteness affords them in America, they get help along the way from some of the best––Robin DiAngelo, bell hooks, Peggy McIntosh, and so many others. One episode just isn’t enough. More to come in part 2!Resources:April Baker-Bell, Linguistic JusticeRobin DiAngelo: "White Fragility "(essay); White Fragility (book); "What's My Complicity" (interview)Peggy McIntosh, "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack"Ruth Frankenberg, White Women Race Mattersbell hooks, "Interlocking Systems of Domination" (video); "The Oppositional Gaze" (essay)National Museum of African American History and Culture, WhitenessSmithsonian Magazine, 158 Resources for Understanding Systemic Racism in America | History | Additional music: "Nocturne Alley" by Gerardo Garcia, Jr."Thinking Over the Idea" by Volodymyr Piddubnyk AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.Wellness, that is. Mental wellness, to be exact. Thriving even though it may be very January where you are. Even though holidays are few and far between now. Even though you might prefer to hibernate this time of year like a lot of other creatures do.For National Mental Wellness month Nat and Ang consider what the pros have to say about mental wellness and how to get and/or keep it. As they reflect on the depths and pinnacles of their own wellness journeys, the gals per usual turn to inspiration from a few artsy-litsy types as, um, well. RESOURCES Mental Health America history & 2023 Annual Report & FactsRichard Sima, Feeling Nostalgia …Kate Moore, The Woman They Could Not Silence Charlotte Perkins Gilman, The Yellow WallpaperSarah Kane, 4.48 Psychosis Halsey, Manic Music transition #5: "Romantic Memories Theme," SFXAGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.Feeling blah about your New Year’s Resolutions? Good luck with that. Had just about enough Best-of-This and Worst-of-That reviews? We can help you with that!In this episode, Natalia and Angela take on 2023. But don’t expect a numbered list or polite conversation. This rearview mirror view of 2023 is about sex, religion, and politics. Find out what gob smacking things in each of these taboo topic areas they are still processing in 2024 and likely will be for years to come.NotesDepp v Heard Christine Emba Men are Lost . . . a Map Out of the Wilderness & readers' reactionsIsabel Cristo Woman in Retrograde Monica Potts The Forgotten Girls & review Religious Trauma Institute Recovering from Religion Spiritual Harm and Abuse Scale Preacher’s Daughter (Cain) @texaspaulschroder and @tglnycR Graham . . .United Methodist Church Breaks Up N Bolz-Weber Shameless5 Things to know. . .latest abortion case in Texas  Southlake; Grapevine Trump Mugshot MemesDan Jones Powers and Thrones AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.What’s Christmas without a dab of doubt, a smidge of heresy, maybe even a dash of Greek mythology? Not much of a Christmas at all, if you ask Angela and Natalia. These nice and occasionally naughty evangelical preachers’ daughters prove why book banning is so popular these days and how the road to perdition almost always starts in a theatre. They ponder the essential questions of Christmas—virginity, the role of eggnog in worship, polytheism, and what makes some evangelicals so pushy. For added bliss, Christmassy tunes pop up when you least expect them. Whatever you believe or don’t believe about Christmas, this episode will have you humming and smirking your way through even the most awkward mixed-faith holiday gatherings.******  Sources: “exvangelical” @brchastain_  on InstagramReady to Harvest on YouTube   What is an Evangelical? National Association of Evangelicals Statement(s) of Faith, National Association of Evangelicals Beliefs about the historical accuracy of Christmas, Pew Research Center Comparison of beliefs in climate change and the story of Jesus’ birth Time MagazineThe Bacchae of Euripides (play) Dionysus (god of wine, harvest, and revelry/ecstasy)The Wakefield Second Shepherd’s Play A Grateful Heart: Daily Blessings for the Evening Meal from Buddha to the Beatles  ******Music/Sound Credits: “Festive Party” Amber Waldron “Musical Bells Chime Christmas Joy to the World” sound effect “Marry Christmas” MoodMode “Silent Night Vintage Christmas Jazz” Volodymyr Piddubnyk “Jazzy Holiday” Amber Waldron AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.     Natalia and Angela, two country gals with big city aspirations, talk about how places shape us. They celebrate and critique their own "backwoods" origins in an episode packed with riffs on rural life and art: country music, political signs,  woodsy adventures, red-neckery, church, tractors, even Andrew Wyeth!      The girls have questions, so many questions. Are we mostly just a big cluster of all the places we've been? Is living just shapeshifting––becoming who you are, where you are, then figuring out how to adapt everywhere else you go? Can we ever really feel at home again once we leave "home" behind?      Don't expect answers to these hard questions! Do expect to encounter wild, wonderful, and not-so-wonderful examples of country life plus some shoutouts to a few of the girls' favorite "backwoods 'n forwards" heroines.Episode notes: Carrie Chapman Catt/League of Women VotersKimberle Crenshaw/IntersectionalityJoyce Sutphen, "Girl on a Tractor"Despoina Tsoli, “Andrew Wyeth’s ‘Christina’s World’: A Closer Look”  Timothy Egan, Fever in the Heartland: The Ku Klux Klan's Plot to Take Over America and the Woman Who Stopped Them (Madge Oberholtzer)Blaire Erskine (Instagram) Images: Photographs referenced on this episode are available to view on Instagram: @agenerationalthingpodcast and at A Generational Thing Podcast on FacebookAGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.What does it feel like to be young? To be old? What are the perils and pleasures of aging, at any stage of life? Natalia and Angela ponder the mysteries of the ultimate identity spectrum, age. And yes, Zoomers and Boomers both get some backlash as well as love. Show notes: With great respect and admiration for Rosalynn Carter (1927-2023). RIPThe Hidden Moral Injury of "Ok Boomer," by David French"Ok Boomer" Marks the End of Friendly Generational Relations by Taylor LorenzGeneration Z: self-absorbed or just self-aware" by Sam Heilmann: https://alleghenycampus.com/22546/opinion/generation-z-self-absorbed-or-just-self-aware/ Nyad (film)AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.Natalia and Angela begin with the backstory, from personal demographics to cultural heroines to religion to  names of pets. All the things you need to know to make sense of the world of A Generational Thing podcast and where our conversations will go in future episodes.References:Rolling Stone article about Lana Del Rey - https://www.rollingstone.co.uk/music/features/lana-del-rey-she-does-it-for-the-girls-album-27426/Gloria Steinem's memoir "My Life on the Road," published in 2016 by Random House Trade PaperbacksAGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

Send us a Text Message.In these snippets from early episodes of A Generational Thing Podcast, hosts Natalia and Angela talk about intergenerational communication and courage.AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/ https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/Technical consultant, Tim GodbyMusic (for regular episodes):"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)