The Mind Full Medic Podcast

Welcome to milestone episode 75! Thank you to past guests for generously contributing their time, expertise and wisdom to the podcast and inspiring me and many listeners. Thank you to everyone listening for continuing to support and grow this podcast and platform. Five years on this passion project still brings me joy and energy.        I can't think of a more fitting guest and topic to celebrate #75 than Dr Andrew Wines current president of podcast sponsor The Medical Benevolent Association of NSW-ACT.      The Medical Benevolent Association of NSW-ACT is a registered ACNC charity run by Doctors for Doctors and their families. MBA NSW-ACT provides counselling and short-term financial assistance through times of crisis, illness, accident, mental health conditions, grief and loss of income to help Doctors and their families in NSW and ACT to recover and return to independence and wherever possible their vocation.      Dr  Andrew Wines is an orthopaedic surgeon specialising in reconstructive surgery of the foot and ankle in adults and children. He obtained his Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery degree from the University of Sydney in 1994 and was awarded his fellowship in orthopaedic surgery from the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons in 2002.      He has been associated with the MBA NSW-ACT for 28 years joining initially as a councillor in his intern year. He has subsequently held a number of roles within the  organisation including secretary, treasuring, vice president and now president. In 2003 he was awarded a Churchill fellowship in 2003 to assess support services available to doctors and their families in Europe      Dr Wines holds a number of other leadership roles including in research and has made a considerable contribution to the Australian Orthopaedic Association. He is currently the second vice President and Treasurer of the AOA and will be President in 2026.  At various stages he has been chair of the Champions of Change, Surgical Performance and Accreditation Committees and a member of the Professional Standards, Continuing Professional Development, Federal Training and Audit and Risk Committees. He is the founding Treasurer of the International Orthopaedic Diversity Association, which now has over 2000 members worldwide.        In this conversation Andrew shares his own powerful story which led him to become involved with the work of the MBA very early in his career and we discuss the work and impact of the MBA NSW-ACT past, present and looking ahead. Thank you Dr Wines, this episode is a wonderful testament to the work of the charity over many years. Find out more information about the MBA support service and how you can donate here : https://www.givenow.com.au/mbanswOther links/ references:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-mind-full-medic-podcast/id1513559414?i=1000610327863https://www.orthopaedicdiversity.org The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

In S5 E12 I am delighted to introduce Dr Josh Case to the podcast. Josh is a medical doctor, software developer, startup founder and author. He is passionate about making the world's healthcare systems safer and more efficient by applying new and existing technology and by building the capability for individual clinicians to make change.     In this conversation Josh describes his early experiences of combining his dual skills as clinician and software developer to create tech solutions to improve the time and cost efficiency and reduce complexity of some of the administrative tasks required of his colleagues. We discuss some of the challenges of and opportunities  for intrapreneurship within the healthcare system.  A key thread relates to the need to maintain the necessary core business of healthcare and the safety, quality and clinical governance around this but also integrate innovation with a concomitant quality improvement process. I particularly loved his reflections about building the needed organisational architecture and internal networking to create cultures of safety, innovation and change.      We share a passion for clinician wellbeing and Josh has a unique lens on the medical workforce landscape through GoLocum. Again this leads to questions about how we can create the much needed agility, flexibility and investment and value of generalist skills needed to match demand and supply across the country going forward.       There will need to be a part 2 to this conversation as I suspect I barely scratched the surface here. Thank you Josh      Links / References:Dr Josh Case https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-case/https://joshcase.devhttps://golocum.com.auOther links:https://www.digitalhealthfest.com.au  The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

In S 5 E 11 I am delighted welcome Dr Bethan Richards to the podcast.   Dr Richards is a Staff Specialist Rheumatologist at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital, Sydney and Deputy Director of the Institute for Musculoskeletal Health. In 2019, following her return from Stanford, Bethan had the honour of being appointed Chief Medical Wellness Officer in Sydney Local Health District – an Australian first. She is also the District’s inaugural MDOK Centre Director.            Throughout her career, Dr Richards has had extensive experience and a passion for designing and implementing mentoring, teaching, leadership and wellbeing programs. Following a successful pilot in junior medical staff, her evidence based BPTOK wellbeing program is now being rolled out to over 14,000 staff in Sydney Local Health District as MyDistrictOK (MDOK). Dr Richards is a national thought leader and researcher in the field of workplace wellbeing and has advised and mentored local, national and international organisational leaders on how to improve healthcare staff burnout and promote professional fulfilment.        This is a conversation I have wanted to have on the podcast for some time but feel we have reached a fitting and opportune juncture to have now.       It is hard to go first. This podcast celebrates the trailblazers and change makers in healthcare, business academia, sport and beyond. Many of my guests, like Bethan,  have gone first as innovators, movers and shakers, so that they might make the path easier for those of us who follow and are coming after.       This is a high level conversation in which Bethan discusses her healthcare organisational wellbeing work and journey to date from pitch to pilot, through iteration and scaling with a strategic and clinical governance framework and lens. She looks ahead at how we can collectively progress the work incorporating into national safety, quality and accreditation standards.  This is a masterclass at the intersection of leadership, strategy and innovation from someone who has been learning whilst doing and whose consistent and persistent efforts have afforded us a blueprint for healthcare organisational workforce wellbeing reform. This is the episode to listen to more than once, share with your colleagues and executive and healthcare leadership teams. Thank you Bethan for all the work that you do. On we sail.  References/Links/Related Reading:https://mdok.org.auPractical Pathways to Workplace Wellbeing Sydney Local Health District  https://vimeo.com/showcase/11091788https://beamtree.com.au/papers-publications/recommendations-to-sustain-our-humans-in-healthcare/ https://wellmd.stanford.edu/about/model-external.html https://wellmd.stanford.edu/knowledge-hub/courses-conferences/cwo-course.htmlhttps://catalyst.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/CAT.20.0266 The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

S5 E 10 Welcome to our first podcast bookclub! In this episode I am delighted to re-joined by two friends of the podcast and previous guests Dr Jonathan Fisher and Dr Anna Baverstock. If you haven't had a chance to listen to my conversations with Anna and Jonathan, press pause and listen here: Deep Listening, brave conversations and the goal of connection with Dr Anna Baverstock https://www.buzzsprout.com/1091279/14939038-deep-listening-brave-conversations-and-the-goal-of-connection-with-dr-anna-baverstock.mp3?download=trueTraining the Mind and healing the heart with Dr Jonathan Fisher  https://www.buzzsprout.com/1091279/12417943-training-the-mind-and-healing-the-heart-with-dr-jonathan-fisher-md.mp3?download=trueWhat does it even mean to lead with heart? Why does this matter ? What does the science say and how do we master the art? What are the heart-centred, innately human qualities, traits and practices needed for leading self and team in the organisations of today and tomorrow? These are some of the rich conversations myself and Anna Baverstock delve into in our upcoming podcast with author Jonathan Fisher, MD, FACC as we dissect his incredible book Just One Heart.  Part memoir, part practical manual Just One Heart has something for everyone. Thank you Jonathan for your gift to the world.Video Link to our conversation will be posted on the podcast website here: https://www.themindfullmedicpodcast.com/homeJust One Heart can be ordered here:https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/1636760007?ref_=mr_referred_us_au_au The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

"The intersection of medicine, business and courageous creativity is where I've spent most of my career" Wendy Dean MD     In S5 E9 I am delighted to introduce another "heavy hitter" in healthcare thought leadership and transformational practice, Wendy Dean MD, president and co-founder of Moral Injury of Healthcare. Dr Dean is an alum of Smith College and the University of Massachusetts Medical School. She trained in surgery and psychiatry at Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center. After practicing for a decade, Wendy worked for the US Army, where she managed regenerative medicine research funding and guided strategy for a $70M investment in the emerging field of hand and face transplants. In that position, and as a senior executive at a large nonprofit in Washington, D.C., she worked closely with both the civilian and military medical communities, and many government agencies--BARDA, NIH, WHOSTP, NASA, DARPA--to develop novel strategies to restore form, function and appearance to ill and injured service members. She remains part of those communities as a board member and prize judge.          In describing her mission she says,"My focus now is on finding innovative ways to make medicine better for both patients and physicians through my own non-profit and by helping new talent and new ventures realize their big ideas."               Farming, fencing, photography, and riding big, opinionated horses keeps me focused outside of work.               In this conversation Wendy discusses the concept and definition of moral injury in medicine, how it is distinct but can co-exist with burnout, the implication of this for medical systems and organisations and the evolution of her own thinking and practice in this area since the publication of the OpEd she co-authored in 2018 "Clinicians aren't burning out they are suffering from moral injury". We discuss her book "If I Betray these Words" from idea to fruition and the challenges and opportunities of elevating clinical voices through story. The major part of this conversation is directed towards transformational leadership and practice in the modern day "business" of healthcare. Who is doing it well and what is working well? Wendy's commitment to mission and purpose and willingness to challenge her own and our collective thinking and practice permeates this entire episode. Thank you for energising me and for all the work that you do to move us forward towards a brighter future for healthcare. Links/References/Reading/Listening:https://wendydeanmd.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/wendy-dean-md/https://www.fixmoralinjury.org/what-is-moral-injuryhttps://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/718606/if-i-betray-these-words-by-wendy-dean-and-simon-talbot/ https://www.statnews.com/2018/07/26/physicians-not-burning-out-they-are-suffering-moral-injury/https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/43cc/id1715895952 The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

In S5 E8 I am delighted to welcome Dr Jess Morgan to the podcast.  Dr Morgan is a UK based paediatrician who spent 11 years as a junior doctor in the NHS. In 2019, after experiencing burnout and mental illness, she left medicine altogether. Jess threw herself into a new career as a primary teacher, completing her PGCE during the Covid pandemic and then teaching her own class. More recently, she decided to return to medicine and is still navigating this journey. Jess has developed a passion for promoting and improving doctors’ mental health and wellbeing. Some listeners may know Jess as The Bipolar Doc, a twitter alias she has kept secret until very recently. By speaking and writing honestly about her own humanity and vulnerability, Jess has grown a large community of followers. She is currently a leadership fellow at the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health working on a project to support paediatricians to have long, sustainable and thriving careers in the profession.       In this conversation Jess shares some more of her story and describes how her experiences have motivated her and given her courage to be a leading voice and advocate for her colleagues and determination to help build a safer more supportive healthcare system and culture.  We discuss her current work with the RCPCH and her ambassador role with Doctors in Distress, a UK charity dedicated to providing mental wellbeing support to healthcare workers.  Jess shares her teaching and presenting wisdom with a short masterclass in meeting your listeners and learners where they are and taking them where you want them to go, ending with a practical take home and call to action.      Jess's creativity, joy of learning, teaching and passionate advocacy permeate this entire conversation. I feel very grateful to have her in my tribe. Thank you Jess. Links/references/resources:Dr Jess Morgan https://x.com/doc_bipolarhttps://thebipolardoc.wordpress.comUK Doctors and NHS Practitioners :https://doctors-in-distress.org.ukhttps://www.practitionerhealth.nhs.ukhttps://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-support/your-wellbeing/wellbeing-support-services/sources-of-support-for-your-wellbeinghttps://aboutwellbeingltd.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/international-practitioner-health-summit-jun-2024.pdfAMA/AMSA traffic light guide https://www.ama.com.au/articles/amacdt-x-amsa-mental-health-support-traffic-light-guideTo read:https://harpercollins.co.uk/pages/listen-kathryn-mannixTo listen:https://www.themindfullmedicpodcast.com/Wellbeing leadership CPD:https://wellmd.stanford.edu The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

In S5 E7 I am delighted to welcome Dr Chris Edmond to the podcast. Dr Edmond is an occupational medicine physician based in Jersey. He is the Medical Director of WorkHealth (Channel Islands) Ltd, the Channel Islands’ only dedicated occupational health provider, and also holds Non-Executive Directorships at several non-profit organisations in the field of health and wellbeing in Jersey. Before qualifying in medicine in 2011, Chris worked in a variety of roles including strategy manager for a corporate bank, service improvement manager in the NHS, ran a web-design business and worked as a mental health support worker in East London, giving a him a relatively unique perspective on the drivers of health and health equity. Chris is passionate about applying public health and whole-systems lenses to his work in occupational health, and sees the workplace as a key driver of both good and poor health. He believes that by leveraging a preventative health approach in the workplace employers can be a key player in solving the nations health, productivity and wellbeing challenges.        I have been following Chris's work and reading his regular column for some time now. In this conversation we discuss his professional background, his current work and role as an occupational physician including the holistic scope of occupational medicine considering and caring for individuals in the context of their work and lives.  We discuss data and implementation science with respect to evidence-based practice in occupational medicine and work-place health interventions, wider governance, policy and leadership across the occupational environment before turning the lens on our clinical colleagues and the potential value occupational physicians could contribute going forward.      Chris's passion, and purpose-driven quest to improve health, wellbeing and professional fulfilment for everyone in the workplace and beyond permeates this entire conversation. I felt energised by our conversation but Chris acknowledges the challenges and pitfalls of advocating and agitating for positive change and progress. His call to action is one of courage, collaboration and humility. Thank you Chris for the work that you do.Links/References:Dr Chris Edmondhttps://x.com/chrismedmondhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-edmond-767271154/ https://www.workhealth.je/about/https://whatworkswellbeing.orgReading recommendations :https://www.triarchypress.net/the-whitehall-effect.htmlhttps://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/317935/everybody-matters-by-bob-chapman-and-raj-sisodia/Subscribe/Rate/Review/Share this episode with a colleague : https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-mind-full-medic-podcast/  The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

In S 5 E 6 I am delighted to introduce Dr Linny Kimly Phuong.  Dr Phuong is  Founder & Director of The Water Well Project. She is a Paediatric Infectious Diseases Physician at the Royal Children’s Hospital, Austin Health, Cabrini Health and Murdoch Children’s Research Institute. She is also a PhD candidate studying invasive pneumococcal disease in children. Prior to medicine, Linny was a qualified pharmacist and also holds a Master of Public Health. Linny has received recognition for her work with awards including the Australian Medical Association- Doctor in Training of the Year Award (2017), Victorian Premier’s Volunteer Champions’ Award- Leadership category (2016), Suncorp Hidden Local Heroes Finalist (2016) and Young Australian of the Year- Victorian State Finalist (2013).     In this episode Linny tells me the story of  The Water Well Project from its grass root foundations to  award-winning charity that improves the health and wellbeing of communities from migrant, refugee and asylum seeker backgrounds by improving their health literacy.  The organisation's  core activity is the provision of free, interactive, community-based, health education sessions delivered by volunteer healthcare professionals across Victoria, Tasmania and New South Wales.         The Water Well Project utilises a community-centric model by working closely with refugee and migrant support organisations. Sessions are delivered upon requests from community groups and co-designed alongside community partners. This means that sessions are tailored to the needs of each community group and delivered in a culturally safe manner.       In this conversation Linny relates her own story driving her purpose driven mission to improve health literacy, healthcare access and culturally safe care for migrants, refugees asylum seeker seekers. We hear her fascinating founder story, which is undoubtedly one of innovation and entrepreneurship combined with a for-purpose vision, and her journey, lessons and the serendipity that has contributed along the way to becoming an award winning not for profit organisation. Crucially if you are a health care professional looking for a rewarding skilled volunteering opportunity you can learn more about the work of their programs and how to get involved. You can support and donate to the project via their website linked below. Links and references:Dr Phuong and The Water Well Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/linny-kimly-phuong-76a9955a/https://www.thewaterwellproject.org/about-the-project/Related episode of the Mind Full Medic Podcast and work of Dr Raj Sundarhttps://www.healthcareforhumans.org/https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-mind-full-medic-podcast/id1513559414?i=1000600383923 The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

In S5 E5 I am delighted to welcome  Professor Himanshu Tambe to the podcast. Himanshu's passion is to empower individuals and organisations to thrive through continuous education. He is  currently Visiting Faculty at the Singapore Management University (SMU) and the Indian School of Business (ISB) teaching Design of Business, Organisation Design, Leadership and Workforce Analytics. He also operates an early-stage software product company focused on optimising operations.  Prior to this,  he held several senior roles with Accenture Strategy & Consulting, the last one being the Managing Director for the Talent & Organisation Consulting business in Southeast Asia and India. Before that he worked for Arthur D Little, the world's oldest consulting firm; established and operated a niche Strategy and Organisation Design company; and worked as an automobile manufacturing engineer at the very start of his career.       Over a 30-year career in consulting and industry,  he has proudly served more than 100 organisations across Public Sector, Metals & Mining and Banking in India, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Korea, Australia, and Europe. His  work has been focused on designing and implementing Business Models, Organisation Design, Process Models, and Large-Scale Behaviour Change to deliver measurable improvements in the performance of people and organization. Over this period, Himanshu has acquired deep experience facilitating senior executive teams to execute change through vision and values alignment.  Beyond the workplace he is, like me, an avid yoga practitioner and meditator and is learning jazz dance.     In this conversation Himanshu shares his insights from the global business environment on the key trends shaping the future of work and workforce.  We discuss modern work and role redesign, humans versus machine, data-driven change, the quest to reconnect with meaning and purpose and investing in "hinge" leadership and  unfreezing the frozen middle or core work-unit leaders. Many themes will be familiar to regular listeners and ultimately we are left with more questions and a call to action to reimagine the work environment. Thank you Himanshu. Episode links:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/himanshutambe/ Himanshu Tambe on The ISB Leadercast Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/leadercast/id1691914486?i=1000626210529Digital Health Festival Melbourne May 7/8 2024 https://digitalhealthfest.com.au/Calling all Clinician Innovators :Applications have opened for the CICA Lab Incubator program. More details here: https://www.cicalab.co/cicalab-incubator The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

In S5 E4 I am delighted to welcome Dr Anna Baverstock to the podcast, Anna is a consultant in community child health looking after children with complex neurodisability and their families. She has been an educational supervisor and Associate DME for support and wellbeing. She was invited to be a member of the NHS Staff and Learners’ Mental Wellbeing Commission in 2019 (Mental Wellbeing Report | Health Education England (hee.nhs.uk)). Currently she is lead for senior doctor wellbeing and leadership within Somerset NHS Foundation Trust.       Anna is a trained coach, mediator and Schwartz round facilitator. Her philosophy is how do we ensure the first patient of the shift and the last get the same kind, safe care? We must look after ourselves and our teams during our working day. A big part of this is how we connect to self and others especially when under pressure. Can we form brave spaces to enable honest conversation that enable growth and change?      When not talking she loves to run, do yoga,  read, draw and doodle often inspired by quotes or poems that resonate.       In this wonderful conversation we discuss Anna's wellbeing leadership, mediation and coaching work. Key themes discussed here include : Deep listening - to understand and connect, not reply or control.Brave conversations- how can we lean into the challenging conversations including where there is conflict or we need to give or receive difficult feedback. As Anna tells it "Difficult conversations don't get easier, but we get braver" with practice.Connection- in her work to empower and support core work-unit leaders in healthcare and build kind, inclusive cultures where high challenge comes with high support, psychological safety is the means and the goal is connection and creating space for deep listening. Thank you Anna, this conversation is a masterclass in wellness centred leadership.Links/References:Dr Anna Baverstock on X ( see pinned BMJ wellbeing at work article series and her daily doodle!)https://twitter.com/anna_annabavAnna on the Being Better, Together Podcast : https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/being-better-together/id1603984431?i=1000650871466Anna’s suggested reading list related to the topics in this conversation:· Brené Brown – Atlas of the heart·       Listen to Anna's podcast about the book :⁠https://bedsidereading.buzzsprout.com/1880290/11049191…⁠· Kim Scott – Radical Candor· Stone & Heen – Thanks for the Feedback· Amy Edmondson – The Fearless Organisation · Daniel Coyle – The Culture Code · Marshall Rosenberg – non violent communication· Adam Grant – Think Again· Timothy Clarke – 4 stages of psychological safety· Trzeciak & Mazzarelli – CompassionomicsRegister to hear from Dr Bethan Richards, Australia's first Chief Wellbeing Officer and her team at Sydney LHD at the  Pathways to Wellbeing conference 30.04.24https://slhd.health.nsw.gov.au/workplace-wellbeing-conferenc The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

In S5 E3 I am delighted to welcome Dr Resa E Lewiss and Dr Adaira Landry to the podcast to discuss their soon to be released book Microskills. About the authors :ADAIRA LANDRY, MD, MEd, www.adairalandryMD.com is an Assistant Professor of Emergency Medicine at the Harvard Medical School and Brigham and Women’s Hospital,  co-founder of WritingInColor.org, and co-author of MicroSkills: Small Actions, Big Impact. RESA E LEWISS MD www.resalewissmd.com is a Professor of Emergency Medicine at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, creator host of The Visible Voices Podcast, and co-author of MicroSkills: Small Actions, Big Impact.    They have written for CNBC, Fast Company, Forbes, Harvard Business Review, Nature, the Philadelphia Inquirer, Science, Slate, STAT News, Teen Vogue, VOGUE, and USA Today. They have been quoted and featured in the Guardian, the HuffPost, The New Yorker, and The New York Times.     About the book: MicroSkills is built on one core, easy-to-learn principle: every big goal, complicated task, healthy habit, and, yes, even what we think of as character traits, can be broken down into small, concrete fundamental building blocks that can be practiced, and incorporated real-time. We call these: MicroSkills. The book is a business self-help book, and we focus on educating the ready for college, ready for work community, and early career professionals with specific, actionable, strategies of the workplace. We share our successes, failures, doubts, observations to help keep the book engaging and personal. We also share very detailed critical actions to gain the MicroSkills. We try to make no assumptions about our readers as we realize that not everyone is starting in the same place. Our book covers topics, such as how to be a polished communicator, how to navigate conflict, how to build subject matter expertise, how to learn your workplace culture, and more.          In this conversation we discuss some of the core MicroSkills I identified in my reading of the book,  including managing time and task lists, growing your network and making self-care a priority.  This is a book I wish I'd had much sooner in my career but have taken many pearls to introduce to my own practice and routines. Thank you Adaira and Resa. where to buy the book:HarperCollin Amazon, Barnes and Noble, AudibleRequest that your local library carry itAdditional links:Adaira’s Nonprofit: WritingInColor.org; focus on teaching people of color how to write for freeResa’s Podcast: The Visible Voices; focus on healthcare, equity, and current trends space. The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

Hello and welcome back to S5 E2 with my friend, peer mentor and colleague Dr Sarah Dalton who regular listeners to the podcast will recognise. You can find a link to our previous episode together and Sarah's full bio as clinician executive leader and coach here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1091279/10201358-lessons-in-leadership-and-coaching-conversations-with-dr-sarah-dalton.mp3?download=true     In this episode Sarah turns the mic on me as we reflect together on the year and past podcast season that was and contemplate some aspirations for the year and work ahead.  The belated release of the podcast has actually seemed timely on the back of the recent Creative Careers in Medicine conference Meet me in the Mediverse held in Sydney March9/10. You can find links to the recordings for CCIM and past podcast episodes and guest content discussed and referenced in this conversation below:The JMO Manifesto https://www.buzzsprout.com/1091279/14203668-the-jmo-manifesto-a-blueprint-for-strategic-organisational-wellbeing-reform.mp3?download=true Junior Doctor voice with Victoria Lister https://www.buzzsprout.com/1091279/13704202-employee-voice-and-silence-in-healthcare-and-the-role-of-profession-with-victoria-lister.mp3?download=truePsychological Safety with Professor Amy Edmondson https://www.buzzsprout.com/1091279/12857423-psychological-safety-as-a-means-to-the-goals-of-patient-safety-innovation-and-thriving-in-healthcare-with-professor-amy-edmondson.mp3?download=true Wellness-centred leadership with Dr Dan Murphy https://www.buzzsprout.com/1091279/11257368-wellness-centred-leadership-with-dr-daniel-murphy-md.mp3?download=true CCIM Meet me in the Mediversehttps://creativecareersinmedicine.com/initiatives/events/Dr Amandeep Hansra, Founder CCIMhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/1091279/8616316-creative-careers-in-medicine-and-building-community-through-connection-with-dr-amandeep-hansra.mp3?download=truePlease subscribe, rate, review and share: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-mind-full-medic-podcast/id1513559414https://www.themindfullmedicpodcast.com The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

Welcome to Season 5 of the podcast. In this first episode,  It's my great pleasure to introduce Professor Jill Klein. In addition to numerous other hats and talents Jill is Professor  of Marketing at Melbourne Business School and Professorial Fellow in Medical Education at Melbourne Medical School.     Jill received her Ph.D. in Social Psychology from the University of Michigan in 1990 and since then has taught at top universities and business school around the world. She joined the faculty at Kellogg Graduate School of Management, Northwestern University in 1990, and the faculty at INSEAD in 1997.She has also been a visiting scholar at Duke University, Helsinki School of Business and Economics, and University of Texas at Austin. She joined Melbourne Business School in 2009, and Melbourne Medical School in 2015.      Jill teaches Resilience and Well-Being, Managerial Judgment, Clinical Decision Making, and Leadership. Her research interests are in resilience and well-being, decision making, business ethics and ethical consumption. She has published widely, including in the British Medical Journal, Medical Education, Management Science, Journal of Consumer Researchand Harvard Business Review. She authored the book, We Got the Water: Tracing My Family’s Path Through Auschwitz, and is currently writing (with Dr Jordyn Feingold), Thriving in Medial School, a well-being book for medical students. She often appears in the media, and has had pieces published in The Guardian, Australian Financial Review, The Age and Huffington Post.     I had the great privilege of being taught Managerial Judgement  by Jill at the Melbourne Business School in late 2023 and was struck by  the importance of her work and applied expertise in healthcare. This work is very much aligned with this podcast mission and listenership. In this conversation we hear more about Jill's early career experiences and how these may have contributed to her subsequent trajectory, research interests and teaching mission. I was particularly keen to explore her work around clinical error and growth mindset. Jill fields some tough questions from me on the topic of resilience in healthcare and we are treated to a taster of her upcoming book "Thriving in Medical School".  I anticipate a successful "Thriving In..." book series to come.  Thank you Professor Klein, I very much hope there will be part 2 to this episode at a later date.This episode of dedicated to incredible life and memory of Gene Klein, Jill's dear and    beloved best friend and father.Links/References/ Contacts:https://mbs.edu/faculty-and-research/faculty/jill-kleinhttps://www.amazon.com.au/We-Got-Water-Tracing-Auschwitz/dp/0615806961 Growth mindset YouTube series for medical studentshttps://youtu.be/YdmlTf8zTYQ?si=tpUvLC56C2fXLHeMJill's Recommendations:https://ig.ft.com/sites/business-book-award/books/2023/winner/right-kind-of-wrong-by-amy-edmondson/ The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

In the final episode of Season 4 I record a special cross over with my friend and mentor Dr Andrea Austin. For regular listeners Dr Austin will need no introduction. A fellow Emergency Physician practising in San Diego California, Andrea is also a simulator educator and director of  emergency residency simulation training program, a coach, podcast host of the excellent The Revitalising Doctor podcast https://therevitalizingdoctor.buzzsprout.com and co-founder of the Revitalize Women Physician Circle platform https://www.peoplealwayshcc.com/revitalize creating a space for women physicians to come together for peer mentoring, coaching, community and connection. Her full bio can be found here : https://www.andreaaustinmd.com/about    Andrea and I first connected through our mutual colleague Dr Dan Dworkis host of https://www.emergencymind.com/podcast and I am personally very grateful to him for bringing us together across the world.       Having met once in person and multiple times virtually now through our regular "Frentor" connect virtual meetings, in this special cross over podcast we decided to record one of our conversations. The end of a big year professional and personally for Andrea was an opportune time to reflect on lessons learned, challenges encountered and also to look ahead to horizons two and three in 2024 and explore goals, aspirations and opportunities.      Themes discussed here include post-traumatic growth, knowing your worth and how to navigate a portfolio career and opportunities whilst setting necessary boundaries for self-care and sustainable practice. As a continuation of our earlier recorded episodes I was most struck and impressed by the evolution of Andrea's values as internal compass and anchor as she moves through the world.     We discuss some of her podcast guest highlights, coaching practice and the exciting developments of the Revitalize Women's Physicians Circle in 2024. Finally we are treated to a taster to her upcoming book Revitalized at the end of the episode which will be linked here when it is live.  In the second part of our conversation Andrea turns the mic on me on her podcast : Previous episodes with Dr Austin https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-mind-full-medic-podcast/id1513559414?i=1000538191164https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-mind-full-medic-podcast/id1513559414?i=1000569869230Andrea's Reading recommendations https://www.penguin.com.au/books/if-i-betray-these-words-9781586423544 https://www.hachette.com.au/katherine-morgan-schafler/the-perfectionists-guide-to-losingcontrol#:~:text=In%20The%20Perfectionist%27s%20Guide%20to,advice%20to%20%27find% The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

In S4 E14, the penultimate episode for season 4, I am delighted to welcome three clinicians from North Metropolitan Health Service (NMHS) in WA to speak about their collaborative work to create and implement the multiple award-winning organisational initiative to improve Junior Medical Officer working conditions, wellbeing and experience, The JMO Manifesto.    The NMHS JMO Manifesto was developed in collaboration with JMOs and DITs ( Doctors in training), Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital ( SCGH) RMO Society, Senior Clinicians and the AMA. https://www.nmhs.health.wa.gov.au/News/2022/12/14/Junior-Medical-Officer-Manifesto   In this conversation I hear from Dr George Eskander current executive director of medical services  at NMHS and proud executive sponsor of the JMO Manifesto , Dr Katie McCleod, registrar working in a medical administration and research role at SCGH and Dr Roberta Dumbrava, the SCGH RMO Society co-president and current PGY3 RMO. ( Full bios in episode and on website )     All three clinicians play instrumental leadership roles and work in collaboration to implement, iterate and evolve the JMO manifesto.      In this conversation I hear about the nuts and bolts of the manifesto from concept to implementation, the success to date and future plans to evolve the system and process.      On first hearing about the JMO Manifesto it might sound like a "unicorn" in building a robust healthcare workforce value proposition but on paper the NMHS JMO Manifesto is quite simple and, indeed, rather obvious. It is however very clear to me, in speaking to the team, that excellence in collaborative values-driven leadership and building a culture of genuine psychological safety have been the enablers.  George, Katie and Robbie  describe a shift in "the feel of the place" and that their organisation has done a "180 flip".  All three clinicians are passionate about  creating sustainable organisational and cultural reform and  embracing genuine staff wellness through strategic action.  The JMO Manifesto is an excellent blueprint for strategic organisational wellbeing reform        I  am grateful to Dr George Eskander, Dr Roberta Dumbrava and Dr Katie McLeod for sharing their time and expertise. This is how we learn from excellence.  Other links/ references/ recommended reading and listening:S4 E11 with Victoria Lister https://www.buzzsprout.com/1091279/13704202-employee-voice-and-silence-in-healthcare-and-the-role-of-profession-with-victoria-lister.mp3?download=trueBeamtree/ Health Round Table Organisational Response to Wellbeing Collaborative Paper 2023https://beamtree.com.au/papers-publications/recommendations-to-sustain-our-humans-in-healthcare/New Podcast Website https://www.themindfullmedicpodcast.comIf you enjoyed this episode please share with a colleague, subscribe, rate and review. All of the above actions helps to grow our community as we collaborate The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

S4 E 13 continuation of this special two-part conversation from podcast sponsor The Medical Benevolent Association of NSW-ACT  www.mbansw.org.au with their senior social worker Julia Kwiet and general surgeon Dr Sue Velovski.  Listen to part 1 here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1091279/14033621-supporting-doctors-health-and-wellbeing-in-training-and-through-difficult-times-with-julia-kwiet-and-dr-sue-velovski-special-sponsor-episode-part-1.mp3?download=true      In part two of our conversation we discuss Sue and Julia's involvement and support work with their colleagues and local community during and in the aftermath of the Lismore flood emergency.  They emphasise the  power of community and connection in the midst of crisis and later in processing collective trauma.  Their experiences and learning from the disaster will undoubtedly help to guide future emergency responses and support services for healthcare workers and their patients. In the latter part of the conversation I have an opportunity to explore some of Julia and Sue's own personal techniques and tools for self-care and wellbeing which help them to continue to show up to bear witness and support their colleagues, clients and patients.  Content warning: This conversation does discuss suicide, if you have been affected by any of the important topics discussed please reach out for help, support and use key resources and contacts here and comprehensive list  in part 1 show notes.Important Links:Doctors' Health, Wellbeing and Mental Health Support ServicesAMA/AMSA Traffic light guide to supports for Doctors:https://www.ama.com.au/sites/default/files/2022-06/FINAL%20AMACDT%20x%20AMSA%20Mental%20Health%20Support%20Flyer%20June%202022.pdfDrs4u: This website is only for the use of medical professionals and medical students. https://www.drs4drs.com.au/ For urgent mental health support, call 1300 374 377 (1300 Drs4Drs) anytime, 24/7If you or someone you know is having suicidal thoughts, there are people here to help. Please seek out help from one of the below contacts:Lifeline| 13 11 14 | 24-hour Australian crisis counselling serviceSuicide Call Back Service| 1300 659 467 | 24-hour Australian counselling serviceBeyondblue| 1300 22 4636 | 24-hour phone support and online chat service and links to resources and apps THESE ARE NOT EMERGENCY PHONE NUMBERS: IN AN EMERGENCY PLEASE CALL 000Dr Sue's book recommedations by Bev Aisbett:https://www.bevaisbettartofanxiety.comhttps://www.instagram.com/bevaisbettandit/The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.au The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

In S4 E 12 I am delighted to bring this special two-part conversation from podcast sponsor The Medical Benevolent Association of NSW-ACT  www.mbansw.org.au with their senior social worker Julia Kwiet and general surgeon Dr Sue Velovski.          In part one of this conversation I hear more about Julia and Sue's professional and personal backgrounds and why and how they both came to be working and advocating  in the area of doctors' health and wellbeing and collaborating together through the MBA.        Julia is a clinical social worker with two decades of expertise in managing complex trauma, psychosocial assessment and therapeutic interventions.    Dr Sue Velovski  is a specialist general surgeon working in the northern rivers of NSW. She was awarded rural doctor of the year in 2022 for her contribution to and ongoing support of her community, cancer patents, training and teaching of students, GPs and hospital staff ( more complete bios for both of my guests in this episode )   Content warning: This conversation does discuss suicide, if you have been affected by any of the important topics discussed please reach out for help, support and use the list of key resources and. contacts here.Important Links:Doctors' Health, Wellbeing and Mental Health Support ServicesAMA/AMSA Traffic light guide to supports for Doctors:https://www.ama.com.au/sites/default/files/2022-06/FINAL%20AMACDT%20x%20AMSA%20Mental%20Health%20Support%20Flyer%20June%202022.pdfDrs4u: This website is only for the use of medical professionals and medical students. https://www.drs4drs.com.au/ For urgent mental health support, call 1300 374 377 (1300 Drs4Drs) anytime, 24/7If you or someone you know is having suicidal thoughts, there are people here to help. Please seek out help from one of the below contacts:Lifeline| 13 11 14 | 24-hour Australian crisis counselling serviceSuicide Call Back Service| 1300 659 467 | 24-hour Australian counselling serviceBeyondblue| 1300 22 4636 | 24-hour phone support and online chat service and links to resources and apps THESE ARE NOT EMERGENCY PHONE NUMBERS: IN AN EMERGENCY PLEASE CALL 000AMA Peer Support Line … 1300 853 338 or 1800 991 997Hand-n-Hand Peer SupportInternational links NZ/US/UK/Ireland/Canada :https://physiciansanonymous.org/physician-suicide-prevention-resources/ Further reading:https://insightplus.mja.com.au/2022/22/100-years-of-physician-suicide-call-for-action/Introducing the MBA NSW-ACT with Louise Fallon https://www.buzzsprout.com/1091279/12707883-introducing-the-medical-benevolent-association-of-nsw-with-louise-fallon.mp3?download=true The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

In S4 E11 I am delighted to welcome Victoria Lister to the podcast.  Victoria has an extensive background in hospitality, advertising and the non-profit sector.  She is PhD researcher in the Department of Employment Relations and Human Resources and the Centre for Work, Organisation and Wellbeing at Griffith University. Her PhD research is in the area of employee voice and silence in healthcare. It examines what junior doctors do and don't speak up about at work and why, with a special interest in the professional forces that shape junior doctor silence.  Victoria also researches the voice and silence experiences of early career academics; works on health workforce wellbeing initiatives; has a 'side hustle' as a designer and retailer of women's active and underwear; and will soon offer coaching as a path to voice for junior doctors who are MDs, PhDs. or both.      In this conversation Victoria discusses her research work and defines employee voice and silence within the context of the healthcare environment. She describes the different lenses through which employee voice in healthcare can be viewed and expressed e.g patient safety and employee working conditions.  We discuss in more detail her qualitative research with doctors and the junior doctor cohort in particular.  Victoria explores the  role of profession and culture and the so-called "hidden curriculum" of medicine and the barriers this can create to speaking up.  Many core podcast themes and topics are re-visited in this, at times, hard to hear but crucial conversation.  I am nevertheless encouraged by the hopeful pockets of excellence we highlight and the power of collective voice and momentum. Thank you Victoria.Links/references/resources:Victoria Lister victoria@victorialister.comvictorialister.comFollow me on LinkedInVictoria Lister |Hummingbird Pie | Underwear and Outerwear victoria@hummingbirdpie.com  hummingbirdpie.com Healing the Professional Culture of Medicine article https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/action/showPdf?pii=S0025-6196%2819%2930345-3RACP Pomegranate Health Podcast episode https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/ep101-setting-the-standard-for-workforce-wellbeing/id1022747864?i=1000629370015Gathering of Kindness events https://www.gatheringofkindness.org/gok-2023Beyond the Stethoscope Lucy Mayes  https://www.lucymayes.com/beyond-the-stethoscopeOther sources of help and support: https://www.handnhand.org.auhttps://www.drs4drs.com.au The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

S4 E 10.  In this second episode recorded after the inaugural Beamtree / Health Round Table Organisational Response to Workforce Wellbeing summit #ORW23,  I am delighted to introduce Fiona Fitzgerald Workforce Wellbeing Knowledge Network lead for Beamtree, the service partner for Health Round Table.         Fiona is a registered nurse by background with nearly 30 years of experience in healthcare, including 12 years working in the health informatics space with a focus on delivering IT solutions that improve patient outcomes and healthcare workflows.Fiona is passionate about improving the wellbeing of the healthcare workforce. In 2018 she began to journey to bring the Well-Being Index developed by Mayo Clinic to the Australia and New Zealand healthcare workforce with the support of Health Round Table. She believes that wellbeing is a shared responsibility and through collaboration, curiosity, kindness and leadership the tide of burnout can be turned.  Fiona has been an instrumental driving force behind #ORS23.      In this conversation we visit Fiona's professional and personal journey and mission.  Fiona discusses Australia and New Zealand role out of the Well-being index tool to date  including the successes, challenges and future opportunities for organisations, teams and individuals in healthcare in leading and co-creating a thriving healthcare workforce alongside  high quality, safe patient care.Links/ References/Resources:Fiona Fitzgeraldhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/fiona-fitzgerald-5063b653/fiona.fitzgerald@beamtree.com.auBeamtreehttps://beamtree.com.au/our-solutions/workforce-wellbeing/Discussion paper: Recommendations to sustain our humans in healthcareWhite Paper: Addressing Burnout Bringing data-driven solutions, care and hope to the health workforce.Videos: What is Burnout?, Why is burnout important to consider in healthcare?, What are some organisations doing better than others?, Working towards best practice in managing burnoutBook recommendation:Swensen, Stephen, and Tait Shanafelt, Mayo Clinic Strategies To Reduce Burnout: 12 Actions to Create the Ideal Workplace, Mayo Clinic Scientific Press (New York, 2020; online edn, Oxford Academic, 1 Mar. 2020), https://doi.org/10.1093/med/9780190848965.001.0001The Mind Full Medic Podcast with John McMahon The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.

In S 4 E 9 I am delighted to introduce John McMahon Director of Client Experience and a product specialist for the Well-Being Index. John has personally worked with over one hundred organisations to launch the tool to hundreds of thousands of healthcare professionals.  He has applied expertise in helping organisations practically use and apply wellbeing data and resources to guide evidence-based initiatives and implement programmes.        This episode is the first in a series of episodes resulting from the recent Organisational Response to Workforce Wellbeing summit facilitated by Beamtree and Health Round Tablein Sydney.   Fiona Fitzgerald Workforce Wellbeing Knowledge Network lead was the key driving force behind this summit and I am looking forward to sharing her insights in part 2 of this conversation.  Beamtree and Health Round Table brought Professor Tait Shanafelt, chief wellness officer at Stanford WellMD and a frequently referenced expert on this podcast, and John McMahon over from the United States for this event.       I was fortunate to have the opportunity to sit down with John the day after the summit to tap into his wealth of applied knowledge.  As you will see his breadth and depth of expertise and experience in this area is truly unique.         We discuss the role of the well-being index as one of the recognised validated tools for collection individual and organisational wellbeing data. John emphasises the important evidence for work-level interventions and how organisation can practically leverage data for evidence-based change. He provides real world examples of success and we explore the myths and challenges organisations face in appropriately using data to implement successful wellbeing programmes.      John's knowledge, perspective and applied expertise in this area seriously impressed me. I anticipate the need for a subsequent episode. In the meantime you can find all of the relevant links and resources we discuss listed below.  "Workforce distress = Unsafe healthcare"  Tim Kelsey Beamtree CEO, #ORW23Links / references/resources:Wellbeing-Index  and John McMahonhttps://www.mywellbeingindex.org/resourceshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/johnjmcmahon/Beamtree and Fiona Fitzgerald https://beamtree.com.au/our-solutions/workforce-wellbeing/https://www.linkedin.com/in/fiona-fitzgerald-5063b653/fiona.fitzgerald@beamtree.com.auBeamtree Wellbeing Advisory group discussion paper https://beamtree.com.au/papers-publications/recommendations-to-sustain-our-humans-in-healthcare/Other useful resources:https://ceih.sa.gov.au/assets/library/CEIH-Fact-Sheet-Wellbeing-Measurement_Public.pdf The Mind Full Medic Podcast is proudly sponsored by the MBA NSW-ACT Find out more about their service or donate today at www.mbansw.org.auDisclaimer: The content in this podcast is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care professional. Moreover views expressed here are our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our employers or other official organisations.