The Joe and Smith Podcast: Read the Book of Mormon with us

Joe and Smith

We are ex-Mormons and we’re re-reading the Book of Mormon together, but this time we know that it’s a work of fiction. We think we’re funny. In each episode we read a new chapter from the BOM and uncover how the church’s teachings affected us in our conservative, faithful days. We believe in love and acceptance, but we process some anger along the way. Expect lightmindedness, loud laughter, evil speaking of the Lord’s anointed, and taking the name of the Lord in vain. read less
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Episodes

Mosiah 14 & 15
Oct 2 2023
Mosiah 14 & 15
Joe talks about the P’s of the C attraction at Disneyparks. Smith discovers that Chapter 14 is an Isaiah chapter so the guys skip it. Joe talks about one of his favorite new podcasts, Bible Brothers, where two actual comedy writers read the KJV. Smith talks about a D ass B quote that he saw online in a job posting for the church. Smith talks about an exmo reddit post that contrasted the shirt colors of brethren in the priesthood session from the 1970s vs today. Joe goes on a minor rant about keeping things “the old way” for the sake of trying to teach the same lessons to the new generation. Smith tells his favorite pirate joke. Abinadi doesn’t do a very good job at clarifying the GH. Joe refers to some Dan Vogel Eps from the Jahndallyn Show, and reminds the listener how much DV reminds him [Joe] of Andy Daly’s Hot Dog character. Joe pulls a very relevant Bennifer reference. The guys get put on hold trying to get answers from the prophet. JS loves this part of Isaiah regarding mountains and feet.  Joe brings up David Bazan. Chapter 15 clears up a lot of doctrine that probably mattered in 1820-1830. Smith blazes through the end of the chapter. Smith tries to clarify the need for atonement. Joe brings up this Johnny Cash song. The guys acknowledge some of the current controversies surrounding the church. Joe mentions his time as a participant in the Lifestar program, which made him ashamed of his body and alienated him from his (at the time) tbm wife.   Music Provided by Eric VanAusdal The Book of Mormon is publicly available at churchofjesuschrist.org  Become a Celestial Subscriber on our patreon at- https://patreon.com/joeandsmith  Remember who you are and what you stand for
Mosiah 12
Sep 11 2023
Mosiah 12
Joe bears testimony of necessary divorce, and the guys realize that they wouldn’t be good marital partners to each other. Smith gets emotional over Joe’s fast food. Smith changes his opinion from last week about OK Go videos and admits to having watched videos for: This Too Shall Pass, Needing/Getting, White Knuckles, but not The One Moment. The corrections department lets us know about Charlotte Gainsbourg whose name was missed last week. Smith reminds the listener of some recent controversy regarding a temple in Cody, WY. Smith comes up with a great safe word for BOM bondage. They guys reflect on which HP characters received howlers. The guys take a couple of detours getting distracted by Smith’s wienerdog and Joe’s axolotls. Smith reminds Joe and the listener about Rusty’s 2003 Ensign article about how god’s love is not unconditional. Joe talks about the good influences of the church over the years and expresses frustration.  Joe gets annoyed that he still gets defensive when people tell him that Mormons are not Christians. Smith reminds Joe about a picture of a religious billboard that Joe sent to him this week. The guys talk about the fanfiction from the 10 commandments that finish off this chapter. Joe talks about a convo he had with someone who lived in ID who had a positive experience living among the mormons. Joe talks about watching Gentlemen Broncos (2009) with their #1 Patreon subscriber and remembers that toward the end, the film includes an antiquated anti-trans term.    Music Provided by Eric VanAusdal The Book of Mormon is publicly available at churchofjesuschrist.org  Become a Celestial Subscriber on our patreon at- https://patreon.com/joeandsmith  Remember who you are and what you stand for
Mosiah 11
Sep 4 2023
Mosiah 11
For a minute Smith convinces Joe that a church-produced JS video was directed by Lars von Trier. Joe gets excited about this OK Go video. Joe refers back to one of Brucer’s theories about rainbows. The guys touch on the phenomenon of white mormon boyz wearing lavalavas to church. Smith tells us about that shithead King Noah, and his unnamed father. Joe makes an irreverent reference to Astronaut Jones from SNL in the 90’s. Smith describes an early cryptocurrency ZiffCoin. Smith provides an anecdote from the other side of Brother Brigham’s conference center prophecy. Joe’s Hightower joke does not land. Smith tries to tell Joe and the listener about some recent controversy regarding a temple in Cody, WY. Joe comes back with another google translation hymns game. Smith is vague about his definition of cockubine. The guys can’t help themselves re all the bondage talk in this chapter. This chapter overtly teaches that god is “slow” to answer prayers of people he doesn’t like as much, not a great example of unconditional love. For some reason, Smith can’t stop envisioning King Noah and Abinadi in a way that can only be described as Fribergian. Joe pitches the next Indiana Jones movie- the golden plates. Joe thinks that the church is too big to fail. The guys pontificate about what kind of social problems could be solved with $150B.    Music Provided by Eric VanAusdal The Book of Mormon is publicly available at churchofjesuschrist.org  Become a Celestial Subscriber on our patreon at- https://patreon.com/joeandsmith  Remember who you are and what you stand for