Changing Lenses: Diversify Your Perspectives

Rosie Yeung

We're a community who envision a world that's more Just, Equitable, Decolonized and Inclusive (JEDI). We're changing the way we see ourselves and each other, and shifting our worldview on business by looking through a JEDI lens.I’m your host, Rosie Yeung (she/her), a Chinese-Canadian immigrant with invisible disabilities, and I’m a JEDI speaker, coach and facilitator. Do you also want to be a JEDI Warrior for social impact? Then please join me in Changing Lenses! Each episode is hosted on colonized land that was taken from many Indigenous nations, including the Anishinaabe, the Huron-Wendat, and the Haudenosaunee Confederacy. I seek Truth and Reconciliation with First Nations, Inuit and Métis people of Turtle Island, and I call upon us all to decolonize our thinking, not just our systems. Learn more on my website, www.changinglenses.ca.

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Welcome to Changing Lenses for Justice, Equity, Decolonization and Inclusion (JEDI)
Sep 9 2020
Welcome to Changing Lenses for Justice, Equity, Decolonization and Inclusion (JEDI)
Welcome! My name is Rosie Yeung, and I’m here to help people with privilege dismantle systemic inequity, while helping people without privilege survive it.This isn’t just a podcast about JEDI, which stands for Justice, Equity, Decolonization and Inclusion. Changing Lenses was inspired by Rene August, a decolonization educator from South Africa. She describes bias and worldview using this analogy:“If I looked at a drop of water through a microscope and magnified it by 100, I would see something completely different to what I see in my hand. But I would still be looking at a drop of water! Our lens determines what we see, not just what we’re looking at.”Our mission in Changing Lenses is to envision a more JEDI way to work and do business by seeing from diverse worldviews. Because in our capitalistic Western societies, companies look at people through a business lens. But if employers sincerely want to be equitable, diverse and inclusive, I believe they need to see people as human beings, not human resources.In this podcast trailer, you’ll learn how Changing Lenses started, and why I went from being a corporate executive upholding systemic inequity to JEDI coach, keynote speaker, and warrior.You can find free JEDI resources and ways to get in touch on my website, changinglenses.ca; and on Instagram @rosieyeung_jedi.Land AcknowledgementEach episode is hosted on colonized land that was taken from many Indigenous nations, including the Anishinaabe, the Huron-Wendat, the Mississaugas of the Credit, and the Haudenosaunee Confederacy. Today it is still the home of many diverse First Nations, Inuit and Métis people, with whom I seek to reconcile by learning the true history of colonization, including things that seemed legal and honourable – like treaties – but were often marked by fraud and coercion.I’m Changing my Lens by learning to see land, creation, even business and economy through Indigenous worldviews. And I’m making new friends and building relationships with Indigenous neighbours, cousins, aunties and uncles, in a genuine desire to know, love, and honour them, and live together in peace.This podcast is one way I’m sharing what I learn to help settler-immigrant folks decolonize our thinking, and respond to the Calls to Action from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.Miigwetch, 多謝, 謝謝, Merci, and Thank You.Full transcript is available here. References and resources in this episode:"Dare to Lead" official glossary: from "Dare to Lead" on Perspective Taking:
Ep310: Antisemitism and Yom HaShoah: Jewish Holocaust Memorial Day, with Alice Henry
Apr 27 2022
Ep310: Antisemitism and Yom HaShoah: Jewish Holocaust Memorial Day, with Alice Henry
The Shoah is the Hebrew term for the Holocaust, and the full name of Yom Hashoah VeHagevurah literally means the “day of remembrance of the Catastrophe and the Heroism.”How much do you know about Yom HaShoah, and what happens on this day? What’s the difference between Yom HaShaoah and the United Nations’ International Holocaust Remembrance Day?Alice Henry draws on her family’s experience of the Holocaust, and her own experience as an Ashkenazi Jewish woman, to share about Yom HaShoah, historic and current antisemitism, Jewish holidays, and much more in this episode of Changing Lenses.Bonus: stay with us to the end for a special Yom HaShoah memorial service.In this episode, you’ll learn:How Jewish identity is more than just religionWhy Whoopi Goldberg was mistaken (and she’s not the only one)The implicit antisemitism in Harry Potter and FriendsOf various Jewish holy days, which one is arguably the MOST holy (hint: it’s NOT Hannukah!)How Yom HaShoah is observed in IsraelLink to episode transcript here.Would you like support dismantling systemic inequity and/or surviving it from someone with lived experience?As a racialized, recovering recruiter, I'm here to help! Click the link to learn more: 👉🏻"Support for JEDI Visionaries"👈🏻Find more support and resources, and contact me directly at:  Guest Bio and References/Links About Alice Henry:Alice is an Ashkenazi Jewish woman whose grandfather escaped from Nazi Germany and eventually immigrated to the U.S. She’s personally experienced antisemitism throughout her life, and felt compelled to share her story and speak out about Yom HoShoah and Jewish inclusion more publicly.In her day job, Alice is a researcher, facilitator, and program coordinator with expertise in zero waste and the circular economy, as well as collaborative decision-making. She is excited to support innovators, public institutions, and our communities as we rethink how our systems can work and how our economies can better support all peoples and our planet.Find Alice on:LinkedIn: and resources in this episode:Yom HaShoah in Israel – everything stops including highway traffic:  Info about Yom HaShoah: The Mourner’s Kaddish: about the UN International Holocaust Remembrance Day: Changing Lenses✨👉🏼 Buy me a Bubble Tea! 🧉
Ep309: White Supremacy Culture from a White Man’s Perspective, with Jeff Akin
Apr 12 2022
Ep309: White Supremacy Culture from a White Man’s Perspective, with Jeff Akin
If you were emotionally OK enough with the episode title to click on the link, thanks for making it this far! I’m only partly kidding. The words “white supremacy culture” are definitely triggering, and not just for white people. What that phrase even means is hard to explain.So when fellow podcaster and white American male Jeff Akin told me he was (gently) raising awareness about white supremacy culture (“WSC”) at his workplace – and he works for the government – and he’s a high-level executive – I was super curious to know how he felt about WSC.Besides being an executive leader, Jeff also teaches about leadership in his podcast, The Starfleet Leadership Academy. I admit, I had preconceived notions about what yet another white man would have to say. But Jeff changed my lens when he shared his own learning journey and struggles with WSC, to now being a champion against it.Join me in hearing this high school educated, ex-Navy, pro-wrestling-TV-broadcaster-turned-executive-leader share how he’s helping dismantle white supremacy culture!In this episode, you’ll learn:Ways white supremacy culture manifests in Western workplacesHow Jeff gradually changed in response and understanding of white supremacy cultureThe difference between white supremacy culture and a white supremacistJeff’s primary weapon against white supremacy cultureHow to speak up on controversial issues when you can’t speak freelyLink to episode transcript here.Are you looking for job search and career coaching?As a racialized, recovering recruiter, I'm here to 👉🏻 "Help you survive the search!"👈🏻 Click the link to learn more!Find more support and resources, and contact me directly at: Bio and References/LinksAbout Jeff Akin:Jeff Akin is a 20-year veteran of the public and private sectors. He has extensive experience in both media and entertainment, as well as over two decades in management and leadership. Jeff specializes in listening to others, helping them unleash their true potential, and giving feedback that is authentic yet kind. This pro wrestling TV broadcaster turned executive leader is never afraid to get his hands dirty when it comes to improving lives!Find Jeff on:Website: Podcast on Apple (or wherever you listen): The Starfleet Leadership AcademyTwitter: and resources in this episode: curated by Tema Okun and other anti-racism educators.✨Support Changing Lenses✨👉🏼Buy me a Bubble Tea! 🧉👈🏼
Ep308: What Ramadan Means to Me, with Saleha Khan
Mar 30 2022
Ep308: What Ramadan Means to Me, with Saleha Khan
Ramadan Mubarak! This special episode of the Changing Lenses podcast is being released just before the holy month of Ramadan, an incredibly significant time in the Islamic faith.Before I met Saleha Khan, the only thing I really knew about Ramadan was that people fasted for the whole month between sunrise and sunset. In order to truly appreciate what Ramadan means, and how it would be celebrated if Islam was the norm (vs. Christianity or secularism), I asked Saleha to share how she experiences Ramadan.Saleha was born in Pakistan, raised in Saudi Arabia, and now lives in Canada. She graciously agreed to share her childhood stories of Ramadan in Riyadh, and how that compares to Ramadan as a Muslim woman in Canada.Saleha also happens to be a specialist in equity, diversity and inclusion, having worked in this field for over 20 years, almost 14 of which was spent with various Ontario police forces.In this episode, you’ll learn:The spiritual and relational meaning of RamadanWhy people fast during Ramadan, and who does (and doesn’t) fastThe hardest part of fasting for Saleha (surprise, it’s not feeling hungry!)If you’re not Muslim, how you can create an inclusive work environment for people who honour RamadanIf you are Muslim, how you can advocate for more inclusion at work during RamadanFull episode transcript available here.Are you looking for job search and career coaching?As a racialized, recovering recruiter, I'm here to 👉🏻 "Help you survive the search!"👈🏻 Click the link to learn more!Find more support and resources, and contact me directly at: Bio and References/LinksA little about Saleha in her own words:I have been involved in Diversity & Inclusion development for almost nineteen years now; I consider myself to be one of those blessed ones who work in the same field where their passions and interests lie. I grew up in a multi-lingual and multi-cultural setting and I find that experience has helped me gain insights into human behavior that has supported my journey in leadership development for those entrusted to me. I see this work as a social and ethical responsibility that needs critical perspective and global viewpoints to not only begin courageous conversations in safe spaces but to create those bold places where conversations turn into actions that bring about culture shift.Find Saleha on:LinkedIn:  References and resources in this episode:Names for Allah (God): Ramadan TV Show: With comments made by children between the age of 8 and 12Support Changing Lenses👉🏼 " rel="nofollow">
Ep307: Going Resume-Free to Hire More Inclusively, with Allie Knull
Mar 23 2022
Ep307: Going Resume-Free to Hire More Inclusively, with Allie Knull
Have you ever felt in your job hunt that you’re being judged on something that doesn’t even represent who are you? Or at best, it only represents a very small part of the whole you. And yet “woke” companies are claiming to want employees to bring their “whole selves” to work.I’m saying it out loud: resumes are a terrible tool for hiring, on both the recruiter and the candidate’s side. There are a million reasons why, but one that really stands out is what a racialized job seeker said to me in the last episode. They said, “the resume doesn’t represent who I am.”So I was ecstatic to meet a fellow resume rebel in Allie Knull. Allie is the Founder and CEO of ResumeFree™, is a former recruiter, and is “absolutely disgusted” with resumes.Companies, employers, recruiters – if you mean it when you say you want more diversity in your organization – then please listen to why a tool that was created in the 1950’s, by a workforce of primarily white men, is not going to get you there.Are you ready? Put your JEDI Visionary lenses on, and let’s go!In this episode, you’ll learn:A better way to screen job candidates without using resumesWhy keyword searches and AI (artificial intelligence) are harmfulWhat to watch out for if using tests and assessmentsHow to create data and metric based decisions in hiringFull transcript available here.Are you looking for job search and career coaching?As a racialized, recovering recruiter, I'm here to 👉🏻 "Help you survive the search!"👈🏻Find more support and resources, and contact me directly at: Bio and References/LinksAbout Allie Knull:Allie Knull’s passion for talent management has spanned her twenty-year career. Although her career started with international companies, Allie’s recent focus is helping small and scaling business owners master their talent management. Her absolute disgust for resumes was the driving force behind her start-up, ResumeFree™, where they inclusively move top talent from inbox to interview, with their revolutionary screening-as-a-service platform. Allie is a Chartered Professional in Human Resources (CPHR) with CPHR Alberta, a Senior Chartered Professional with the Society for Human Resource Management (SHRM-SCP) and a Registered Professional Recruiter (RPR) with the Institute of Professional Management. She is a Top Recruiter™ in Canada 2019 Award winner, placing 10th overall. Find Allie on:Website: and resources in this episode:Canadian Literacy Statistics: The Pink Elephant, by Dr. Janice GassamGoogle Scholar (Google Scholar provides a simple way to broadly search for scholarly literature. Search across a wide variety of disciplines and sources: articles, theses, ...)Support Changing Lenses💙 Buy me a Bubble Tea! 🧉
Ep306 Real Talk with Rosie: In the War for Talent, Candidates Become Casualties
Mar 16 2022
Ep306 Real Talk with Rosie: In the War for Talent, Candidates Become Casualties
This episode is all about the experiences of racialized people looking for work. Job hunting is hard enough as it is; but add on to that being Black, Indigenous, Latinx, Asian, and any other racialized identity that isn’t white – and it’s even harder.This is the 3rd in the series of 4 LinkedIn Lives that I’m re-sharing as podcast episodes, so you loyal listeners also get all the amazing career advice my guests provided.There’s a reason why it’s just me on this episode, without any of the people I spoke to. It’s because they don’t feel safe saying this out loud, in public.So companies, employers, recruiters – please pay attention to what these job seekers have to say about the way they experience your hiring process. If you want to treat people more equitably and inclusively, and diversify your work force – the way you’re working isn’t working.And if you’re a racialized job seeker, I hope you feel validated and less alone as you hear these stories. Trigger warning, you may not want to hear more about a frustrating process right now, and that’s OK. Please take care of yourself. Either way, please know you’re not crazy, and you are being heard...In this episode, you’ll learn about these traumatic job seeker experiences:The Cone of SilenceThe Gated Community EffectHypocritical Job DescriptionsUnequal Burden of ProofUnequal Distribution of PowerLink to episode transcript here.Are you looking for job search and career coaching?As a racialized, recovering recruiter, I'm here to 👉🏻 "Help you survive the search!"👈🏻 Click the link to learn more!Find more support and resources, and contact me directly at: me on: and resources in this episode: Changing Lenses 🙏🏻💙👉🏻 Buy me a Bubble Tea! 🧉
Ep305: We Need to Talk About Period Pain. Period. With Lux Perry
Mar 8 2022
Ep305: We Need to Talk About Period Pain. Period. With Lux Perry
Endometriosis affects more people than prostate cancer, breast cancer and heart disease combined. It's in the top 20 most painful diseases in the world, and there’s no cure. It affects 1 in 10 people with a uterus. And it is so undiagnosed, so misunderstood, that patients get threatened with expulsion from school, or fired from work.Today is International Women’s Day. It happens once a year. But this disease affects the people who have it at least once a month, and Lux Perry has suffered from it for over 15 years. In this episode, you’ll learn:The crippling effects of endometriosisWho can get it (hint: it’s not just women)The ways capitalism, ableism and misogyny are linkedHow period discrimination presents in work and schoolHow companies can create a culture of inclusion for people with periods (and disabilities)If you know someone else who’s been told their period pain is normal; who is struggling to hold a 9-to-5 job or attend school; or has been silenced by patriarchal society – please share this episode with them so they know they’re not alone. You can share straight from wherever you’re listening to this podcast right now, or from my website, www.changinglenses.ca/podcast.Thank you!Link to episode transcript here...Are you looking for job search and career coaching?As a racialized, recovering recruiter, I'm here to 👉🏻 "Help you survive the search!"👈🏻 Click the link to learn more!Find more support and resources, and contact me directly at: BioAbout Lux Perry:Lux is a non binary disabled queer who was formally diagnosed with endometriosis after struggling for 15 years with debilitating pain. Lux and their two friends founded Somedays on the not so radical idea that period pain is not normal and that you deserve the tools and support you need to have a pain free cycle. Somedays provides safe, natural and effective period relief products based on muscle recovery principles.Find Lux and Somedays on:Website: and resources in this episode:UNICEF article: Personal Pain and Healing Journey –  30 Days for Endo:  ✨Support Changing Lenses✨Buy me a Bubble Tea! 🧉👉🏻 👈🏻
Ep304: Building Walls against Immigrants: Systemic Barriers to Employment, with Xin Yi Yap
Mar 2 2022
Ep304: Building Walls against Immigrants: Systemic Barriers to Employment, with Xin Yi Yap
When you’re job hunting, does it sometimes feel like you’re trying to breach an impenetrable fortress? Recruiters and hiring managers talk about attracting top talent, but when it comes down to it, they act more like an immigration department trying to keep undesirable people out, than warmly welcoming people in.And if we’re going to compare recruiting to an immigration process, the best person to do that is someone who’s going through both. Meet Xin Yi Yap, the special guest on this episode. She is a Singaporean who moved to the U.S. to go to university, and now that she’s graduated, she needs to work in a qualifying job in order to stay in the country.You don’t have to be a foreign student or visa worker to relate to Xin Yi’s story. If you’ve ever been rejected by an employer because you didn’t fit their profile; or if you’ve ever been passed over for a job you KNOW you can do because of your accent or other irrelevant excuse – then you’ve experienced what I call the Gated Community Effect.This is the second of 4 LinkedIn Lives that I’m re-sharing as podcast episodes. If you’d prefer to watch the full video recording of the whole Live episode, you’ll find it on my website at www.changinglenses.ca/trainingvideos.In this episode, you’ll learn:How U.S. immigration is like the Hunger GamesStereotypes and microaggressions against international students and employeesThe fallacy of “stealing jobs” from citizensWhy we need to decolonize self-confidenceHow employers can recruit more equitablyInspiring advice for international students and job seekers todayIf you know someone else who’s going through the Gated Community Effect, please forward this episode to them so they can feel supported. You can share straight from wherever you’re listening to this podcast right now, or from my website, www.changinglenses.ca/podcast.Thank you, JEDI friends!Link to episode transcript here...Are you looking for job search and career coaching?As a racialized, recovering recruiter, I'm here to 👉🏻 "Help you survive the search!"👈🏻 Click the link to learn more!Find more support and resources, and contact me directly at: Bio and References/LinksAbout Xin Yi Yap:Xin Yi (She/Her) is an IDEAS (Inclusion, Diversity, Equity, Accessibility, and Social Justice) practitioner, certified Diversity & Belonging Facilitator, and analyst. Hailing from Southeast Asia, Xin Yi looks at IDEAS issues through an intersectional and international lens. She understands that systems of oppression manifests differently throughout the world, and is thus able to facilitate conversations of change with folks from different backgrounds. Xin Yi has also worked with multinational organizations on a multitude of ways to cultivate equity, inclusion, and belonging for all, from IDEAS workshops to strategy implementation.Find Xin Yi Yap on:Website:  LinkedIn: in this episode:Poem by Rupi Kaur from her book Home Body:
Ep303: Culturally Relevant Career Tips to Empower You, with Oscar Garcia
Feb 23 2022
Ep303: Culturally Relevant Career Tips to Empower You, with Oscar Garcia
Almost all the career counselling, mentorship, corporate training etc. I’ve received have been almost exclusively from white people. Nothing wrong with that – I’ve been blessed to receive great advice and support from many white leaders over the years.But I’m not white. And I had to filter a lot of the info I got through my cultural lens.So when I discovered Oscar Garcia, the special guest for this episode – I knew I had to have him on the podcast. Oscar is a Hispanic-American immigrant who went from being an ESL student to an author and founder of his own company, Aspira Consulting. Oscar’s mission is to empower you, so opportunities come to you.If you, like me, have been craving career advice and mentorship from a racialized corporate leader who is relatable and relevant, Oscar provides that in this episode. 👉🏻And if you know someone who needs culturally relevant empowerment, please share this episode with them. You can share straight from wherever you’re listening to this podcast right now, or from my website, www.changinglenses.ca/podcast.Thank you, JEDI friends!In this episode, you’ll learn:Three key components of culturally relevant leadership trainingHow we can translate lived experiences and immigrant experiences into relevant job experience for recruitersWhat the best universities and professors can’t teach youHow people from humility-based cultures can still promote their accomplishmentsHow racialized people and immigrants can be fully themselves and feel empowered to succeed in Western business cultureLink to episode transcript here.Are you looking for job search and career coaching?As a racialized, recovering recruiter, I'm here to 👉🏻 "Help you survive the search!"👈🏻 Click the link to learn more!Find more support and resources, and contact me directly at: Bio and References/LinksAbout Oscar Garcia:Oscar is the Founder & Chief Empowerment Officer of Aspira Consulting, a Silicon Valley training and consulting firm providing culturally relevant career and leadership programs.  He is an introvert turned international speaker.  Oscar has given over 500 seminars and trained over 20,000 professionals across five continents.  His training style is of a “practrainer” - he actively practices what he trains others to do.  He is an ESL (English as a Second Language) student turned contributing author to “Hispanic Stars Rising Volume II: The New Face of Power”, where his story, I AM A MINORITY, highlights the importance of embracing the struggle, valuing our identity, and the power of vulnerability.  As Chief Empowerment Officer, Oscar empowers you, so opportunities come to you.Find Oscar on:LinkedIn: Talk with OG” Podcast: wherever you get your podcasts) ..✨Support Changing Lenses✨Buy me a Bubble Tea! 🧉👉🏻 👈🏻
Ep302: Loc'd Out at Work: Black Hair Discrimination, with Walter Gainer II
Feb 16 2022
Ep302: Loc'd Out at Work: Black Hair Discrimination, with Walter Gainer II
If you’re Black, you’re probably well aware of what Walter Gainer II is going to share in this episode. (Trigger warning, the content may be traumatizing or upsetting to you – please take care of yourself and stop listening at any point.)..If you’re not Black – you NEED to hear what Walt has to say. I thought I knew about the issue from the general media – but in my privilege, I had no idea how pervasive and intrusive anti-Black hair discrimination actually is...If you’re an employer or manager – you especially need to hear Walt’s stories. Workplace discrimination is insidious because it’s rarely overt. #WorkingWhileBlack is a real thing, and if you’re thinking, “not at my company” – think again...Tune in as Walter changes our lens on how we see Black hair in corporate North America...In this episode, you’ll learn about:🎙️ The racialized origin of the term locs (or locks, or dreadlocks)🎙️ Hair discrimination against men🎙️ A defining moment in Walter’s loc journey🎙️ Advice for people with locks in corporate jobs🎙️ Advice for the rest of us to see locs differentlyLink to episode transcript here.✨Are you looking for job search and career coaching?As a racialized, recovering recruiter, I'm here to help you survive the search! 👉🏻 more support and resources, and contact me directly at: Bio and References/Links About Walter Gainer II:Walter is a host and producer of Boss Locks, a show where we speak to Black leaders from all around the world to identify the range of Blackness and hear their stories of new growth. Walt’s mission is to create support systems for people Working While Black and lead the world to new growth.Find Walter on:Website: on Apple (or wherever you listen): Boss LocksTwitterFacebookInstagramLinkedInReferences and resources in this episode:The CROWN Act (to end hair discrimination):  Walter’s Facebook group to support professionals Working While Black: Creators Accelerator:  ✨Support Changing Lenses✨Buy me a Bubble Tea! 🧉👉🏻
Ep301: Who Decides When You’re Good Enough?
Feb 9 2022
Ep301: Who Decides When You’re Good Enough?
Have you ever tried to do something for the very first time? If so, what did you hear more often:.❌ “Who do you think you are?”or✅ “I believe in you!”..When I started my first ever podcast from scratch with no experience, I had to believe in myself before others believed in me. It’s natural to want validation from others before we actually take a leap of faith. But if we just keep waiting for that to happen, we might never get started on that BIG IDEA or PASSION that only you have the vision to see...✨Because I forged ahead and followed my passion, I’m proud and incredulous to launch Season Three of the Changing Lenses podcast today!🎉..It’s taken me three seasons to finally have the confidence to say:..This is a podcast about JEDI, which stands for Justice, Equity, Decolonization and Inclusion. Our mission in Changing Lenses is to envision a more JEDI way to work and do business by seeing from diverse worldviews...In this season 3 premiere episode, I share with you:🎙️ my journey through impostor syndrome🎙️ how employers/recruiters can change their lenses to see the true value of candidates🎙️ how employees/job seekers can turn their life experiences into corporate skillsLink to episode transcript here...Are you looking for job search and career coaching?As a racialized, recovering recruiter, I'm here to help you survive the search! 👉🏻 more support and resources, and contact me directly at:  me on: and resources in this episode: Changing Lenses✨Buy me a Bubble Tea! 🧉👉🏻 👈🏻
Bonus Ep213: Talking Allyship and Solidarity on the Know Nonsense Anti-Racism Podcast
Nov 10 2021
Bonus Ep213: Talking Allyship and Solidarity on the Know Nonsense Anti-Racism Podcast
Anti-Racism. Black Lives Matter. Allyship and Solidarity between equity-seeking groups.We’ve touched a bit on these with Changing Lenses podcast guests over the last year, but haven’t dived as deeply into these topics as my friend and fellow podcaster Nura Yunus has. She created the Know Nonsense Podcast to educate listeners about the experiences and systems of racism that exist in Canada and across the world, and the ways in which they show up for people of colour every single day.Nura is a Black Muslim woman, born and raised in Canada to parents who immigrated from Eritrea. The Know Nonsense Podcast is Nura’s passion project which she does on 100% volunteer basis, while she’s working full time in international development.So today, I’m excited to share (with Nura’s permission) a slightly shorter version of our episode called “Talking Allyship and Solidarity”, which originally aired on the Know Nonsense podcast on October 29, 2021.In this episode, you’ll learn about:Identity in relatedness, not accomplishmentsThe self-sacrifices required in allyshipExamples of solidarity (and division) in DEI and workplaces todayRacism within our own familiesPower brokers vs. allies (credit: Mary-Frances Winters)White supremacy culture, vs. white culture supremacyContact Rosie and find JEDI resources at:  transcript available here.Guest Bio and References/LinksAbout Nura Yunus:Nura Yunus (she/her) is a Black Muslim woman born and raised in Toronto, the traditional territory of many nations including the Mississaugas of the Credit, the Anishnabeg, the Chippewa, the Haudenosaunee and the Wendat peoples and is now home to many diverse First Nations, Inuit and Métis peoples. Nura currently works in international development and before this worked with various grassroots and non-profit organizations in program design and delivery, community development and workshop facilitation. Her passion for anti-Black racism has recently led to the creation of the Know Nonsense Anti-Racism podcast, a resource for learning about racial injustice from a Canadian perspective. When she isn’t working on the podcast you can find her reading works by authors of colour, watching documentaries, or hiking one of Toronto’s many beautiful parks.Follow the Know Nonsense Podcast on:LinkTreeInstagramEmail - knownonsensepodcast@gmail.com  References and resources in this episode:Original Know Nonsense episode release: on Spotify.Where Do I Begin? Reading PlanRachel Cargle – The Great UnlearnGuide to AllyshipTema Okun – White Supremacy Culture
Ep212: Everybody Knows Somebody with an Episodic Disability, with Melissa Egan
Oct 5 2021
Ep212: Everybody Knows Somebody with an Episodic Disability, with Melissa Egan
You may be aware of ways to accommodate physical and mental disabilities. But what about episodic disabilities?If you don’t know what an episodic disability is, you’re not alone. Once you hear Melissa Egan describe it, you’ll probably realize that you, or someone you know, has one. Melissa is the National Lead of Episodic Disabilities at Realize, a Canadian charity that fosters positive change for people living with HIV and other episodic disabilities. She helps companies create work environments that are accessible and inclusive.Please join us in Changing Lenses to see through the eyes of people with episodic disabilities, and how we can support and accommodate their needs.In this episode, you’ll learn:Practical ways to make your workplace inclusive and accessible for people with diverse abilities while centering the person.The difference between medical and social models of disability, and why one is more inclusive than the other.Why insurance disability plans are inadequate to accommodate employees with episodic disabilities.How employers can build a culture of accommodation (that doesn’t cost a ton of money).How employees can talk to their employer about accommodating their episodic disability. Contact Rosie and find JEDI resources at:   Full transcript available here.Guest Bio and References/LinksAbout Melissa Egan:Melissa is the National Lead, Episodic Disabilities at Realize. She has worked in the field of health and HIV for over 15 years as an educator and facilitator, developing and delivering trainings to diverse audiences across Canada. Melissa brings a commitment to inclusion, diversity, equity, and accessibility to her work, and she has worked extensively with marginalized, LGBTQ, and Indigenous people. Melissa holds a BA and BEd from Simon Fraser University in BC and is currently pursuing an MEd at OISE - University of Toronto.Find Melissa and other resources on Realize’s website:  and resources in this episode:
Ep211: Combatting Poverty with Neuroscience, not Financial Literacy, with Emily Heath
Sep 8 2021
Ep211: Combatting Poverty with Neuroscience, not Financial Literacy, with Emily Heath
If we see poverty as the result of financial illiteracy, irresponsibility or a lack of self-control, then the blame falls on the person living in poverty, and the answer is to find a job, spend less, and get financial training.Financial literacy education is definitely important, and these programs have their benefits. But knowledge alone does not develop capability and behaviour change, any more than knowing you should exercise leads to going to the gym.So why do the majority of financial interventions fail? To understand that, we’re Changing Lenses to see through the eyes of people experiencing financial vulnerability. Dr. Emily Heath, a senior researcher and behavioural neuroscientist, explains the cognitive biases and psychology behind financial decision-making. As we learn about the barriers to healthy financial behaviour, we also learn how racism, discrimination and other forms of oppression exacerbate the problem.In this episode, you’ll learn:The cognitive biases that derail our best intentions for saving moneyWhy low-income kids do worse in the “marshmallow test”How poverty is a tax on decision-makingThe effect of traumatic events like racism and domestic violence on financial capabilityWhat neuroscience tells us will actually help people facing financial vulnerability[Please pardon the poor audio quality due to internet recording.]Full transcript available here.Contact Rosie and find JEDI resources at:  DR. EMILY HEATHDr. Emily Heath is a senior researcher, consultant and behaviour change specialist with a PhD in behavioural neuroscience from the University of Sydney’s Brain and Mind Centre. Emily has been the architect of award-winning financial capability programs, which she has developed for both youth and adults. She is the author of the international report, “How do we really build financial capability? 10 Principles for financial interventions”. Emily is currently a Senior Manager, Climate Change and Sustainability Services with EY Australia, and sits on the Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC) Schools and Money Working Group.You can find Emily on LinkedIn.References and resources in this episode:Article on Professor Sendhil Mullainathan’s research:
Ep210: All the Single Ladies (are invisible minorities), with Jaime Ho
Aug 25 2021
Ep210: All the Single Ladies (are invisible minorities), with Jaime Ho
We’re single, but we’re not alone. The population of singles are growing in North America – but we’re still a minority group. And like any minority group, we face discrimination and marginalization purely because we don’t have the power of the majority – even more so for single women.If you’re wondering how that could be, you’re probably married. 😊 And your single friends and family need you to hear this episode.Because singlehood isn’t a waiting room for marriage. It’s become an increasingly long-term lifestyle for people in their 30’s, 40’s and older. But our workplaces, businesses, even taxes, still centre the nuclear family as the “norm”.So in this episode, we’re changing our lens to see through the eyes of two long-term single women – me, and my best friend Jaime. We go outside our comfort zones to (hopefully) de-stigmatize an issue that can still cause women to question their self-worth.In this episode, you’ll learn about:How capitalist economies disadvantage single peopleHow parents and couples get prioritized at workWhy getting married isn’t the solutionA new worldview on the modern familyFull transcript available here.Contact Rosie and find JEDI resources at:  BioJaime Ho is a CPA, CA who’s not your stereotypical accountant. She’s a creative artist, rock climber and baker, whose amazing cakes have been featured on the Food Network. Most importantly, she’s Rosie’s best friend, and zookeeper of two dogs and a cat.References and Resources in this Episode:Unfair Tax System for Canadian Single Seniors  costs of being single: Demographic Statistics:
Ep209: Breaking the Bamboo Mold: How One “Model Minority” Did It (and we can too), with Carissa Begonia
Aug 12 2021
Ep209: Breaking the Bamboo Mold: How One “Model Minority” Did It (and we can too), with Carissa Begonia
Carissa Begonia is a Filipina-American who left a safe corporate job to start her own business.  Until I met her, the only examples I had of entrepreneurs or people following their passions were completely unrelatable for me. Because they were almost all white folks who didn’t have the same immigrant, survival-based, play-it-safe mentality that defined my world.With Carissa, I’d finally found someone who faced similar cultural barriers and self-doubts, whose story I resonated with, who was believable and relatable because we had similar backgrounds. Today, she is a sought-after speaker, coach and DEI consultant who’s been recognized by TIME Magazine (among others) for her impact, e.g. co-founding AARISE.To me, Carissa is a role model for breaking what I call the “model minority bamboo mold”. In this episode of Changing Lenses, she shares with us how she did it, and how she’s supporting BIPOC folks today to follow their dreams too.Contact me and find JEDI resources at:  transcript here.In this episode, we talk about:Being a daughter of Filipino immigrants turned entrepreneurWhy we need more BIPOC coachesCarissa’s first racist experience – at Disney WorldFinding self-liberation by going against the grainDiversity, Equity and Inclusion next steps: beyond unconscious bias trainingAdvice for young racialized women today Guest Bio and References/Links About Carissa Begonia:Carissa is a first generation Filipina-American daughter of immigrants. After nearly 15 years as a successful intrapreneur and head of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) at Zappos, Carissa decided to follow her own light and seek out sparks in others. She is a leadership and business coach specializing in helping BIPOC leaders and entrepreneurs pursue meaningful careers, build their own values-driven businesses, and design a life of purpose. Whether it’s dancing on the beach, hiking with friends, or supporting schoolchildren in the Philippines through her non-profit, Green Mango International, Carissa continues to value the connectedness and inner peace found in simply doing good. She also co-founded AARISE ( Asian American Racialized Identity and Social Empowerment) for AAPIs, a program and community focused on justice and liberation for all.Find Carissa on:AARISE (Instagram): Exchange:
Ep208: Why Police Record Checks Are More Harmful Than Helpful, with Safiyah Husein
Jul 21 2021
Ep208: Why Police Record Checks Are More Harmful Than Helpful, with Safiyah Husein
Many employers are asking where to find and hire “diverse talent”. What they SHOULD be asking is how their recruitment process might discriminate against these candidates once they apply.In this episode, Safiyah Husein, a lawyer and Senior Policy Analyst at the John Howard Society, shines a light on the hidden dangers behind a widely accepted hiring procedure: the police (or criminal) background check.This episode is for you if:You think police checks make your workplace saferYour employer has done a police check on you but you don’t know what it saidYou believe police checks only uncover findings on convicted criminalsSpoiler alert: research shows that police checks don’t do what you probably think they do.Listen to the full episode to find out what they really do!Contact Rosie and find JEDI resources at:  transcript available here.Guest Bio and References/LinksAbout Safiyah Husein:Safiyah Husein is a Senior Policy Analyst at the John Howard Society of Ontario (JHSO). She does research and policy development, supports its public education activities, and liaises with local offices and community partners on reform initiatives. Safiyah holds a BSc in Psychology from York University and a Juris Doctor from the University of Windsor Faculty of Law.JHSO actively advocated for reforms to police record checks, to protect public safety and human rights, leading to the Police Record Check Reform Act. JHSO conducts workshops and webinars to educate stakeholders about legal rights and responsibilities under the Act, and promote evidence-based best practices around police record checks and employment. Safiyah worked on projects related to police record check policy, and leads public education activities for legal professionals, employers and individuals navigating the job market with justice involvement.Find Safiyah on:TwitterLinkedInEmail: shusein@johnhoward.on.caReferences and resources in this episode:Police Record Hub WebsiteJohn Howard Society Ontario WebsiteYouTube
Ep207: So You Say You Want Decolonization? with Jessica Dumas
Jun 27 2021
Ep207: So You Say You Want Decolonization? with Jessica Dumas
If you’re wondering what you can do in bringing reconciliation and decolonization to Canada – this episode is for you. First, we learn what colonization actually looks like. Jessica Dumas of Keeseekoowenin Ojibway First Nation shares personal stories about her family, life experiences, and tragic interaction with police that demonstrate just how effective colonization is. The goal of residential schools was to “kill the Indian in the child”, and it worked.The good news is, we can help undo some of residential school’s legacies. As Jessica learned about the true history of her people, she discovered her Indigenous identity, and began a career in restorative justice. Today, she is a sought-after speaker, coach and emcee, and even introduced Michelle Obama at an event! Jessica believes that continuous education is key non-indigenous allies to support truth and reconciliation. So as you listen to Jessica’s story, what are you learning, and what steps will you take towards restorative justice today?Contact Rosie and find JEDI resources at:  Group CommunityIn this episode, we talk about:What a land acknowledgment means to JessicaLiving without cultural identity or sense of purposeThe first time she realized she was differentChoosing between being Indigenous or sending your child to residential schoolThe family tragedy that started her on the path to restorative justiceFinally finding her place in communityDiscrimination against her lack of university degreeMeeting Michelle Obama!Encouragement for young Indigenous womenEducation is the key to decolonizationFull transcript here.Guest Bio and References/Links About Jessica Dumas:Jessica is the President of Jessica Dumas Coaching and Training. She is a professional certified coach who specializes in speaker coaching and business coaching, helping individuals speak with clarity and confidence. She is an energetic and motivated professional who quickly gains the trust of her audience with her warm, engaging personality and professional style.Widely recognized for her contributions, Jessica is a recipient of the Manitoba 150 Women Trailblazer award from the Nellie McClung Foundation, a finalist for the Future Leaders of Manitoba and a finalist in the CBC’s Top 40 Manitoban’s under 40 for 2015. Jessica’s volunteer work also earns wide respect in Manitoba. She has served as Chairperson of the Aboriginal Chamber of Commerce and the first Indigenous Female Chairperson of the Winnipeg Chamber of Commerce (2019-2020) and continues to sit on numerous committees and boards at the executive level. She is a powerful role model and advocate for social justice, leading others to overcome challenges by developing personal strengths, vision and self-confidence.Find Jessica on: TEDx TalkInstagram: @jessicadumas01LinkedInFacebook: jessicadumascoaching
Ep206: Awakening her Indigenous Spirit - Fighting Academic Racism, with Jill Featherstone
Jun 21 2021
Ep206: Awakening her Indigenous Spirit - Fighting Academic Racism, with Jill Featherstone
“I started learning about residential schools. I started learning about generational trauma and that's when I realized like, okay, there's nothing wrong with us. I'm not broken. There's things that happened that caused us to be living this way. And once I realized that there was nothing wrong with me and with my people, that's when I really started to regain a lot of strength and courage."This special episode is released on National Indigenous Peoples' Day, a day to recognize and celebrate the unique heritage, diverse cultures and outstanding contributions of First Nations, Inuit and Métis peoples. So today's episode features Jill Featherstone, a wonderful Indigenous mother, grandmother, university professor, and author of the book, “The Tale of Tiger Lily”. In fact, Jill is so good, she was continuously accused of plagiarism as a student.From Jill’s story, you’ll see why decolonization is needed in our universities and schools. How can education based in brick buildings and academic papers truly value teachings from oral traditions and land-based skills?I could say more, but I’d rather let her speak for herself.  Before we hear from Jill, please be aware that we speak openly about racist events and discrimination that may be painful and distressing to you. If you are a survivor of residential schools or related trauma, and need help – please call the Indian Residential Schools 24/7 Crisis Line: 1-866-925-4419. Contact me and find JEDI resources at:  this episode, we talk about:Treaty status and living on reserve - rights controlled by colonizationYouthful rebellion as a response to continuous racist attacksRegaining her identity and culture that was lostRacism from university professors - fighting for her education like fighting a warRacism against Jill's little girlStrength and courage to pursue her dream of writingHelping Indigenous youth today to be proud of who they areLateral violence: a direct effect of residential schools and intergenerational traumaJill's book, The Tale of Tiger Lily, A NovelOpportunity for students and teachers to get a free author's talk from Jill!Full transcript here.Guest Bio and References/LinksAbout Jill Featherstone:Jill is a mother of 5 and step-mom to 3. She is a wife, a grandmother, an instructor at University College of the North in Northern Manitoba, and an author.  Her novel for young adults, “The Tale of Tiger Lily”, is inspired by the character created by J.M. Barrie’s play “Peter Pan”. Jill takes us into the mind of the young Tiger Lily as she comes of age, blending cultural resonance with a classic tale.Jill is also the founder of Featherstone Support Services, providing motivational workshops for Indigenous youth and young adults. To date she has helped hundreds of Indigenous youth and young adults find the motivation, courage and confidence to go back to school and enter into the workforce.References and resources in this episode: Tale of Tiger Lily for TeachersFeatherstone Support ServicesInstagram: @_Jill_Featherstone Facebook:
Ep205: An Indigenous Worldview on Wealth - No One Left Behind, with Thomas Benjoe
Jun 16 2021
Ep205: An Indigenous Worldview on Wealth - No One Left Behind, with Thomas Benjoe
Lots of companies have been asking, “What’s the business case for justice, equity, diversity and inclusion (JEDI)?”Thomas Benjoe turns that around and asks us to think about how JEDI benefits our community and economy, not just ourselves. Thomas is a member of Muscowpetung First Nation, Chair of the Saskatchewan Chamber of Commerce, and President and CEO of FHQ developments, a business partnership owned by the 11 member First Nation communities of File Hills Qu’Appelle Tribal Council (FHQTC).In this episode, Thomas shares successful business strategies that show how you can be equitable and profitable. He explains how counter-cultural concepts like paying higher wages gets reinvested in the economy which benefits our community and ourselves.As you listen to Thomas, you’ll learn how an Indigenous worldview is not only relevant to business, it’s necessary.For more JEDI resources or to contact me, head over to my website:   In this episode, we talk about:Land acknowledgements: First Nations’ territories extend beyond political bordersThe unique Indigenous business program at First Nations University CanadaIndigenous worldview on money and business Balancing business and profit with equity and inclusionTheir “secret sauce”: what differentiates their business modelA broader view of ROI (return on investment)FHQ’s 3 divisions: investments & partnerships, economic development and Tokata HR Solutions – all staffed by First NationsIncreasing Indigenous representation: more than token diversityHow future business leaders can make a lasting impactJEDI allyship includes economic allyshipFull transcript available here.Guest Bio and References/LinksAbout Thomas Benjoe:Thomas is the current President and CEO an a founding board member of FHQ Developments. He is a former Commercial Banker from RBC that served the Aboriginal Market throughout Saskatchewan, and played a critical role in in the creation of the FNUniv Aboriginal Youth Entrepreneurship Camp.A graduate of Business Administration from the First Nations University of Canada, Thomas is strongly committed to Aboriginal business development, wealth generation and First Nation equity ownership in key economic sectors.Thomas serves on a number of committees and boards, including Chair of the Saskatchewan Chamber of Commerce.References and resources in this episode:FHQ Website: Instagram: @tombenjoeTwitter: @tombenjoeLinkedIn: Thomas BenjoeFirst Nations University of Canada:  and Mail Article: