Bachelor Nation Newbies

Leane, Claire and Phoebe

A Los Angeles mom and her two teenage/young adult daughters (21 and 19) are the Bachelor Nation Newbies.  The Newbies discovered The Bachelor during the pandemic in Spring of 2020 when watching the 2009 Jason Mesnick Season on Netflix.

Each week we're sharing both our newbie Bachelor Nation perspective and glimpses into our family dynamics during an unedited conversation about life, love and everything in between as we use The Bachelor/The Bachelorette as a conduit for a fresh, mom/daughters conversation.  Perfect for a Bachelor fix on your daily dog walk or while folding laundry.  Whether you're new like us, a veteran BN fanatic or just interested in topics like love, dating, mom/daughter relationships, moving away to college, feminism, reality television, life with a Husky, an old Chihuahua, and much more - join us as our bachelor journey continues to unfold.

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Episode 5: Finally! The Newbies Gather on a Spring Sunday to Discuss the FINALE OF JOEY'S Love Journey!
Apr 8 2024
Episode 5: Finally! The Newbies Gather on a Spring Sunday to Discuss the FINALE OF JOEY'S Love Journey!
The Newbies have been living their boss ass bitch lives and have not had much time to discuss the time suck that is love reality television.  BUT the girls just had to gather to celebrate the end of Joey's love journey because of the life-changing effect Joey has had on each of them. Kinda. The Newbies discuss a variety of topics including Phoebe's desire to not "adult"; Natalia Grace comparisons; valuable mom advice about "smoking weed"; the shock that Daisy was not the chosen one; their love of girl empowerment; did the producers lead everyone else on by trying to hide the natural connection between Joey and Kelsea and do they really have a fighting chance to last? ; and again how much Daisy's rising above the BS was so inspiring and much more!!Thank you for joining us for Season 8 of our BNN adventure!! Please rate and review us if you have a moment and share our mother-daughter chat with a friend!!! Not sure we will be back for Jenn's love journey but we may do Bachelor in Paradise!!Here's to mothers and daughters and here's to love!!!

Episodes

Episode 5: Finally! The Newbies Gather on a Spring Sunday to Discuss the FINALE OF JOEY'S Love Journey!
Apr 8 2024
Episode 5: Finally! The Newbies Gather on a Spring Sunday to Discuss the FINALE OF JOEY'S Love Journey!
The Newbies have been living their boss ass bitch lives and have not had much time to discuss the time suck that is love reality television.  BUT the girls just had to gather to celebrate the end of Joey's love journey because of the life-changing effect Joey has had on each of them. Kinda. The Newbies discuss a variety of topics including Phoebe's desire to not "adult"; Natalia Grace comparisons; valuable mom advice about "smoking weed"; the shock that Daisy was not the chosen one; their love of girl empowerment; did the producers lead everyone else on by trying to hide the natural connection between Joey and Kelsea and do they really have a fighting chance to last? ; and again how much Daisy's rising above the BS was so inspiring and much more!!Thank you for joining us for Season 8 of our BNN adventure!! Please rate and review us if you have a moment and share our mother-daughter chat with a friend!!! Not sure we will be back for Jenn's love journey but we may do Bachelor in Paradise!!Here's to mothers and daughters and here's to love!!!
Episode 5: The Newbies Discuss The Fact that the Younger Generation are Back On the Traditional Relationship Grind; Joey's Polar Plunge Adventure; and Timing in Love
Mar 4 2024
Episode 5: The Newbies Discuss The Fact that the Younger Generation are Back On the Traditional Relationship Grind; Joey's Polar Plunge Adventure; and Timing in Love
It's a Sunday and the Newbies gather to discuss the last two episodes of Joey's love journey as he round the final turn towards hometowns. The expert tear wiper is primed and ready to go for hometowns visits with four amazing women - one of whom could most definitely be "his person." If only she could just stop doubting this amazing process! :) Per usual, the Newbies find themselves discussing unexpected love tangents. Topics for this week's episode include whether or not the rate of divorce amongst parents of Claire and Phoebe's peers has inspired a desire for long term commitment and forever love; how timing in love is much more important when you're young; how threatening to "walk away" does not instill confidence in your partner; and disgusting Elk Milk is; and so much more. Rate and review us please wherever you listen!! Here's to love!!
Episode 4: The Newbies Discuss Whether or Not Joey is Actually AI-Generated; Why Lea Ruined the Word "Peep"; and Whether or Not Insecurity is Ever Attractive
Feb 19 2024
Episode 4: The Newbies Discuss Whether or Not Joey is Actually AI-Generated; Why Lea Ruined the Word "Peep"; and Whether or Not Insecurity is Ever Attractive
Despite the absolute time suck of watching this week's FOUR HOUR BLOCK of Joey's European Love Journey, the Newbies share this week's pod in a semi-timely fashion. This week's topics include fake eyelashes; the confusion of the dumb, never-ending Maria drama which has been picked up by Lea after Sidney left; the continued tendency to "one-up" each other when it comes to traumatic pasts; the Newbies affection for how Maria expressed her past trauma; how Phoebe expressed the difference between connection and competition when it comes to being vulnerable; the fact that we would NEVER eat that sausage with all that make-up and face oil on it; and how much we really loved Joey's vulnerability with his feet issue and his pronouncement that he's the "fun size bachelor" and much more. Rate and review us wherever you listen please and spread the word! Here's to love!
Episode 3: The Newbies Have a Late Night Discussion about The Utter Confusion of the Mrs. Right Pageant and the Value of "Intimacy Accelerators."
Feb 13 2024
Episode 3: The Newbies Have a Late Night Discussion about The Utter Confusion of the Mrs. Right Pageant and the Value of "Intimacy Accelerators."
The Newbies battle through some Monday night low energy to discuss the nosedive  that Joey's love journey took during Episode 3. With Bachelor producers struggling to make BIG drama between Maria and Sidney when it's really NO drama is all just a bit depressing. Other topics include the Newbies discussing the value of pageants and why Phoebe never decided to be in one; the fact that Sidney is obviously a plant in this season; why Joey is so fine to play along with all this Bachelor crap; the fact that Joey didn't replace the magnetic part of Daisy's implant when she asked if he wanted to touch it; the value of doing scary things together (like surfing) on a first date; the new term the Newbies have coined - "intimacy accelerator" and much more!Rate and review us and spread the word!Here's to love and Happy Valentine's Day!!
Episode 2: The Newbies Get Cozy on a Rainy Day and Discuss The Myth of Romantic Love but Who Cares Because Joey and Daisy are Perfect.
Feb 6 2024
Episode 2: The Newbies Get Cozy on a Rainy Day and Discuss The Myth of Romantic Love but Who Cares Because Joey and Daisy are Perfect.
With rain falling in epic proportions from Southern California skies, the Newbies have a cozy afternoon girl chat about all things romance and love. Topics for this week's episode including whether or not any romantic moments in real life ever live up to the expectations that a Bachelor finale sets; is romantic love baked into our cultural expectations or are we only driven by the human desire to love and be loved; the excitement of butterflies and growing love; how The Bachelor is truly just good ol'fashioned fun; how both Daisy and Edwina made us all cry; and honestly just how perfect Joey is. Share this mother-daughter chat with a friend and please rate and review us wherever you listen!Here's to Love!
Episode 1: IT'S JOEY'S TIME FOR LOVE! The Newbies are BACK for their Fave Bachelor's Love Journey!! Season 8 on BNN!!
Jan 30 2024
Episode 1: IT'S JOEY'S TIME FOR LOVE! The Newbies are BACK for their Fave Bachelor's Love Journey!! Season 8 on BNN!!
It's hard to believe the Newbies missed the cultural moment that was The Golden Bachelor,  but sometimes life demands other endeavors.  BUT the Newbies couldn't miss the opportunity to add their mother/daughter commentary for what will certainly be the most epic love journey of all time. (And the most dramatic season finale ever, for sure.) In the pod's Season Premiere, the Newbies discuss whether or not the "banana" move was appropriate or not; whether sisters wanting to kiss the same guy is appropriate or not (uh, no); whether Lea was too dramatic over the secret note card; whether or not Daisy is simply the most lovable of the bunch (she is); and much much more. If you like raw, unedited generational conversation about life, love and everything in between, join the Newbies for their 8th season of Bachelor Nation Newbies!Rate and review if you would please! And here's to LOVE!!!
It's the FINALE of Charity's Short But Emotional LOVE Journey! The Newbies Discuss Heartbreak, BreakUps, Sad Tears and Happy Tears Too.
Aug 27 2023
It's the FINALE of Charity's Short But Emotional LOVE Journey! The Newbies Discuss Heartbreak, BreakUps, Sad Tears and Happy Tears Too.
The Newbies are in three separate locations as the girls are settled back in college - Phoebe for her sophomore year and Claire for her senior year!! Where are the time gone.  BNN started in January of Claire's freshmen year. CRAZY!!! The Newbies talk a lot about growth and new chapters this episode as they mourn Joey's departure but also celebrate him being the new bachelor! Other topics include LETTING GO; how Charity and Dotun seem like they're in it for the LONG GAME TRULY; and how heartbreak is just part of the love journey so let's embrace it; and more! Thank you to our loyal following for sharing in the journey! Let us know if you want us to BNN during Joey's Bachelor, The Golden Bachelor or Bachelor in Paradise or  all of the above! Rate and review us wherever you listen and here's to LOVE FOR CHARITY AND DOTUN!
Episode 6: The Hometown Episode Where The Newbies Chat about Deep Life Shifts; Claire's Desire to Be a Farmer; and Charity and Dotun's Inevitable Engagement
Aug 5 2023
Episode 6: The Hometown Episode Where The Newbies Chat about Deep Life Shifts; Claire's Desire to Be a Farmer; and Charity and Dotun's Inevitable Engagement
As the Newbies try to catch up to Charity's blistering fast love journey,  the discussion per usual starts on an extreme tangent surrounding Claire's new life farming dream that started on her Pinterest board in 5th grade.  The Newbies' Sunday morning brains are slow to focus on Charity's love but when all is said and done, Dotun continues to be the winner with Xavier and Joey fighting for a close second.  This love journey is winding down quickly - thanks for tuning in for this generational chat.  Please rate and review wherever you listen! Here's to love!
Episode 5: The Newbies Discuss Everything EXCEPT Charity's Love Journey Including The Absolute Uselessness of Paper Mail and Leane's Hot Take About How Women Are Generally More Interested in Finding Love than Men.
Aug 5 2023
Episode 5: The Newbies Discuss Everything EXCEPT Charity's Love Journey Including The Absolute Uselessness of Paper Mail and Leane's Hot Take About How Women Are Generally More Interested in Finding Love than Men.
The Newbies discuss all kinds of topics that barely include Charity's love journey based on the ratings free fall that this season is inspiring. Perhaps that is because of locations like Stevenson, Washington and the lack of "trashy love" that the old Bachelor Nation regime seems to thrive on.  In any event, the Newbies topics include Claire's disgust about paper mail except coupons from Biden for Bath and Body Works; the power of a shredder for paper mail; Leane's belief that women care more about romantic love than men; and other generational topics! Here's to love and a good mother/daughter chat. Rate and review wherever you listen!
Episode 3/4: The Newbies Have a Summer Reunion to Discuss TWO Eps; Brayden's Departure; More JOEY; and Whether True Love Requires Knowing ALL of Someone
Jul 22 2023
Episode 3/4: The Newbies Have a Summer Reunion to Discuss TWO Eps; Brayden's Departure; More JOEY; and Whether True Love Requires Knowing ALL of Someone
The Newbies are back together in person for a TWO EPISODE discussion that includes topics like the Titan submersible disaster; group man noises; Phoebe's 19th birthday; their love for Dotun and this season's dark horse, Tanner; and of course how immature Brayden is and how confusing that Charity seems to want him to stick around! Join the Newbies generational discussion about all things love and please rate and review wherever you listen! Here's to LOVE! For Charity!
Episode 2: The Newbies Discuss JOEY!!!! What More Needs to Be Said?? Oh and They Also Discuss War.
Jul 7 2023
Episode 2: The Newbies Discuss JOEY!!!! What More Needs to Be Said?? Oh and They Also Discuss War.
In Episode 2 of Charity's Love EXTRAVAGANZA, the Newbies talk about Joey and the longest kiss with Joey and Joey's smile and just Joey!! Here's to LOVE with Joey! Rate and review wherever you listen!!
Season 7: Episode 1 - It's Charity's Summer of LOVE! The Newbies are Back to Discuss Why Charity's Men are the BEST; Knitters Vs. GymRats; and Whether or Not We Want to Wear the Pants!
Jul 2 2023
Season 7: Episode 1 - It's Charity's Summer of LOVE! The Newbies are Back to Discuss Why Charity's Men are the BEST; Knitters Vs. GymRats; and Whether or Not We Want to Wear the Pants!
Your fave dog-walking, laundry-folding, running errands podcast is back for your 4th of July weekend! After some deep contemplation, the Newbies have decided that they simply can not stay away from Charity's search for LOVE.  After Leane initially feeling Charity was going to be too low-key for the Bachelorette spotlight, she has completely changed her tune after Episode 1.  The Newbies are all about Charity's grounded, authentic, kind, quality and the caliber of men seem to match her! The Newbies are all about these men. Perhaps Charity's person IS present at the mansion after all. Who knows where this season will take the Newbies but in episode one the topics range from men who knit to douchebag gymrats to the value of Pinterest boards to being your own soulmate to making sure women know how to change lightbulbs and much more. Thanks for joining BNN as Season 7 of this podcast begins! Here's to love for Charity! Rate and review wherever you listen!
Episode 9: It's the FINALE of Zach the Snack's Love Journey!!! Join the Newbies as They Discuss Bachelor Role Playing; How Fun it Is to Be Messy in Love and MORE!
Mar 30 2023
Episode 9: It's the FINALE of Zach the Snack's Love Journey!!! Join the Newbies as They Discuss Bachelor Role Playing; How Fun it Is to Be Messy in Love and MORE!
The Newbies can NOT believe that Zach's journey is over and that he and Kaity are happily skipping off together into the Austin sunset! The season has been more fun than the Newbies ever expected and we're sad to see Zach's wacky journey come to a close. All kinds of topics are discussed including how has Kaity NOT gotten the ick factor yet?; the power of mentor Sean's segment during the 3-hour finale; and WHY is the finale THREE hours???; what a queen Ariel is over and over again; the continued confusion as to why on earth did Zach make his no sex promise and then tell Kaity and not tell Ariel?; how much Leane loves Gabi for saying she and Zach's interlude was "beyond the TV show"; and how disappointed The Newbies are that Zach told everyone after he told her it would be "just between us!!" And more!!!Thank you for joining us on another crazy journey of Bachelor love - rate and review us PLEASE and look out for a special BNN Off Season! Here's to love!! Bye for now!!
Episode 8: The Newbies Gather After a Week Off and Discuss Zach's Truly Fascinating Decision to Abstain from Sex during Fantasy Suites and Then Reveal His Decision to Have Sex with Gabi
Mar 25 2023
Episode 8: The Newbies Gather After a Week Off and Discuss Zach's Truly Fascinating Decision to Abstain from Sex during Fantasy Suites and Then Reveal His Decision to Have Sex with Gabi
Oh Zach the Snack. The Newbies discuss Zach's inner need to tell the truth ALWAYS no MATTER WHAT. Even when it makes no sense whatsoever to tell the truth. The Newbies reconvene after their week off due to some sad family news and have a raw conversation that spans topics from spontaneous bouts of insecurity and self-doubt to Gabi's bouts of crying to how much Ariel is a absolute Queen to Zach's baffling decision to reveal his sexual encounter with Gabi to his soon-to-be fiancee Kaity. Oh the path to true love is a winding one. :) Rate and review us please and here's to LOVE!
Episode 7: The Newbies Discuss Whether or Not "Getting Butterflies" Is Important in Finding Love; How Poetic Girls in Bathtubs Are; and More!
Mar 10 2023
Episode 7: The Newbies Discuss Whether or Not "Getting Butterflies" Is Important in Finding Love; How Poetic Girls in Bathtubs Are; and More!
Phoebe is on Spring Break so she and Leane are together at home recording the old school way with Claire still at her undisclosed location.  Phoebe and Leane had an "emotional" time watching the Bachelor together on a chilly LA day and Claire is absolutely stunned that there were any tears shed at all for Zach! Topics this week include the meaning behind feeling "the butterflies";  how this batch of women are basically "ick-proof" according to Claire and Phoebe; whether or not tilting your head back truly stops the tears from falling; and general excitement and analysis of how the Newbies feel heading into HOMETOWNS! The love journey is getting closer to Zach finding HIS PERSON! Thanks for joining the fun , Please rate and review wherever you listen and here's to LOVE!
Episode 6: The Newbies Reunite to Chat IN PERSON and Discuss Love Languages, Their Love for Ariel, and BDSM? WHAT?
Mar 7 2023
Episode 6: The Newbies Reunite to Chat IN PERSON and Discuss Love Languages, Their Love for Ariel, and BDSM? WHAT?
It's Phoebe's Spring Break and after a harrowing trip to Claire's undisclosed college location to see Claire in a super fun production of "Puffs!", the Newbies host a rainy afternoon Monday BNN session.  The topics are wide and varied  including Zach's privilege oozing out of his pores as he whines about having "no more room service" post Covid;  Jess trying to explain to Zach her love language but he sees it as a "disconnect"; is Kat losing her edge for the Final Four spot; how Zach seems to be a different, better person in Ariel's presence and somehow the conversation ends with an uncomfortable mom/daughter conversation involving BDSM. HUH? Zach the Snack's love journey is heading to the final stretch and the Newbies guess they will stick around! Rate and review BNN if you would be so kind and here's to LOVE!
Episode 5: The Newbies Chat All Things London and Beg the Bachelor Producers to NEVER EVER Do a Virtual Group Date/Rose Ceremony Again!!
Feb 27 2023
Episode 5: The Newbies Chat All Things London and Beg the Bachelor Producers to NEVER EVER Do a Virtual Group Date/Rose Ceremony Again!!
Claire is beyond busy in her tech week  of her college play so the Newbies are late to recording this week but they gather on a Sunday afternoon to discuss all things London like High Tea, Double Decker Busses and Snogging - but also dig deep into random stories like the 25th anniversary of the Titanic and how Leane's parents witnessed a hold up at a local pharmacy. On the love front, the Newbies interest in Zach is slipping as he slams Greer for caring about her career as much as he cares about finding his person. What? The virtual nature of this week's episode was a true let-down but yet the Newbies will hang in there because talking about love adjacent topics is just too much fun. Join us for our weekly romp through the weeds of Zach's love journey! Rate and review us! Here's to Love!
Episode 4: The Newbies Discuss Bachelor-Adjacent News (i.e. Carpet Beetles and Raw Doggin' It Meaning); Zach's Well-Groomed Chest Hair and FINAL FOUR Predictions!
Feb 18 2023
Episode 4: The Newbies Discuss Bachelor-Adjacent News (i.e. Carpet Beetles and Raw Doggin' It Meaning); Zach's Well-Groomed Chest Hair and FINAL FOUR Predictions!
The Newbies love their slow Saturday mornings to sip coffee and discuss all things Bach related and much more!  With Zach's season being SO LOW in drama, the Newbies tend to ramble about plenty of adjacent topics. Leane finally learns what raw-doggin' it means; Claire and Phoebe learn which books are in the Top 25 of 2022; the trials of carpet beetles; will the younger generation stop getting married?; and more! On the Bachelor front, the Newbies spend a lot of time talking about Zach's chest hair, the manufactured drama between Kaylee and Anastasia, and who they think will make it to the Final Four and more! Here's to LOVE!!! Rate and review us wherever you listen!!
Episode 3: The Newbies Discuss the Ball Zachs, What it Means to Be A Perimeter Chick and GIRL code!
Feb 12 2023
Episode 3: The Newbies Discuss the Ball Zachs, What it Means to Be A Perimeter Chick and GIRL code!
It's only Episode 3 but the Newbies are in deep on Zach's journey towards love. Topics on this week's conversation include:Is this a kinder, gentler bachelor mansion scene with how much the girls seem to love each other; why Genevie was wearing a sling; are people upset or not about Christina's departure?; how creepy would a Night at the Museum date be; what it means to be a perimeter chick; what's girl code all about;  and the bachelor BOWL! Ball Zachs anyone?? Rate and review us wherever you listen! Spread the word to mothers/daughters everywhere and here's to LOVE!!!
Episode 2: The Newbies Gather on A Saturday Morning and Discuss What it Means to Be A BAD BITCH and Do Bad Bitches Fart or NOT?
Feb 4 2023
Episode 2: The Newbies Gather on A Saturday Morning and Discuss What it Means to Be A BAD BITCH and Do Bad Bitches Fart or NOT?
The Newbies are fully embracing their BAD BITCH vibes to discuss all of the important themes from the Week 2 episode where Zach nodded awkwardly as the women tried to show their bad bitch energy to him to prove that they are wife material. What? Other riveting topics include whether farting in front of your partner is showing your authentic self (or NOT!); how the label of being a bad bitch has changed between generations; how The Bachelor is trying to be a bit more authentic this season; whether or not people like Zach as the bachelor; is Taz a true bad bitch or just insecure;  was Brianna being dramatic or should we all just honor her feelings no matter what?; how we like Christina and much much more. Rate and review us wherever you listen and here's to LOVE!