The Fifth Edition by Infinite Banking Authorized Practitioners

John Montoya, John D. Perrings

The Infinite Banking Concept® (IBC) is privatized banking, using the cash value of a whole life insurance policy as the platform. Your hosts, John Montoya and John Perrings, are authorized IBC practitioners with the Nelson Nash Institute, dedicated to educating consumers about Infinite Banking. Listening to this podcast, you'll learn about life insurance, cash value, dividends, policy loans, policy design, and more. Most importantly, you'll learn how IBC puts you back in control of your money so you can keep it, grow it, and pass it on without taking any of the unnecessary risks that you otherwise get when you listen and follow the mainstream advice about personal finance. The podcast title, "The Fifth Edition," is a tribute to the final print edition of Nelson Nash's book, "Becoming Your Own Banker," before his passing in 2019. The Fifth Edition podcast is our way to carry on Nelson's mission by explaining The Infinite Banking Concept® in simple terms so that you can make it real in your life! read less

What Problems Does Infinite Banking Solve?
2d ago
What Problems Does Infinite Banking Solve?
Stop wasting hours on YouTube trying to piece together the information you want about The Infinite Banking Concept.Use code "PODCAST" to get 50% off of our soup-to-nuts online course:IBC MASTERYMain Episode DescriptionOne of the biggest financial problem we all face comes straight from the book, Becoming Your Own Banker; Parkinson's Law."A luxury, once enjoyed, becomes a necessity." In financial parlance, this means expenses tend to rise along with our income.Taxes, debt service, and lifestyle expenses always tend to rise at the same rate as our income, leaving only what's left over to save and grow.And we've found this to be just as true for someone making $1M per year as it is for someone making $30k per year.In this episode, we talk about this and many other problems The Infinite Banking Concept solves. By having access to capital and being able to finance our own purchases and investments in a strategic manner, we kill many proverbial birds with a single financial stone.Episode Highlights0:00 - Introduction0:12 - Episode beginning0:21 - “What problem are you trying to solve?1:31 - The official problem4:54 - The problem that we all have9:36 - Protecting your family against the loss of income15:19 - Passive income21:39 - Thinking long range, protecting your family in the future30:21 - Accelerating the payoff of debt33:23 - Reducing of eliminating taxes39:18 - What whole life can’t do41:32 - Episode wrap-upAbout Your Hosts:Hosts John Montoya & John Perrings are dedicated to spreading the word about Infinite Banking so you can discover for yourself how you and your loved ones can benefit with a virtual streamlined process that will take you from IBC novice to sharing the strategy with friends and family... even the skeptics!John Montoya is the founder of JLM Wealth Strategies, began his career in financial services in 1998. He is an Authorized Infinite Banking® professional and works nationwide.John Perrings started StackedLife Financial Strategies after a 20-year career in the startup world of Silicon Valley where he specialized in data center real estate, finance, and construction. John is an Authorized Infinite Banking® professional and works nationwide.CONNECT WITH US AT https://www.TheFifthEdition.com
What is an "IBC Style" Whole Life Insurance Policy?
Mar 19 2023
What is an "IBC Style" Whole Life Insurance Policy?
Stop wasting hours on YouTube trying to piece together the information you want about The Infinite Banking Concept.Use code "PODCAST" to get 50% off of our soup-to-nuts online course:IBC MASTERYMain Episode DescriptionThere is a ton of information about Infinite Banking out there and opinions about "correctly-designed" policies probably top the list.We want to help you cut through the noise and help you understand what an "IBC Style" policy should be.Like everything having to do with insurance, it's all about trade-offs. There is no secret, magical way to design a policy to give you the "best" cash value without some kind of corresponding tradeoff.That being said, in this episode, we'll give you some guidelines on what to look out for (and what to avoid!) when looking at a whole life policy designed for IBC.Link to EPISODE 37 (Why Universal Life is Not Right for IBC), mentioned in this episode.Episode Highlights0:00 - Introduction0:11 - Episode beginning3:44 - “What is an IBC policy?”8:28 - The long-term perspective12:01 - Thinking about your design15:31 - “Design your policy like it’s your last one”22:49 - Typical design components that you should look for27:13 - Where the cash value really comes from33:40 - Episode wrap-up, a couple of riders to considerAbout Your Hosts:Hosts John Perrings and John Montoya are dedicated to spreading the word about Infinite Banking so you can discover for yourself how you and your loved ones can benefit with a virtual streamlined process that will take you from IBC novice to sharing the strategy with friends and family... even the skeptics!John Montoya is the founder of JLM Wealth Strategies, began his career in financial services in 1998 and is both an Authorized IBC® and Bank on Yourself® professional licensed nationwide.John Perrings started StackedLife Financial Strategies after a 20-year career in the startup world of Silicon Valley where he specialized in data center real estate, finance, and construction. John is an Authorized Infinite Banking® professional and works nationwide.CONNECT WITH US AT https://www.TheFifthEdition.com
Recent Policy Loan Rate Increases
Mar 10 2023
Recent Policy Loan Rate Increases
** Get a 50% off our online course, IBC Mastery **With current rising interest rates, many carriers have similarly raised the interest rates on policy loans. Many whole life policy owners are wondering how this will affect their practice of The Infinite Banking Concept ®.In this episode we talk about policy loan rates and what to expect with whole life insurance dividends as interest rates rise.As John Montoya tells us, “interest rates are relative”.Episode Highlights0:00 - Introduction0:12 - Episode beginning2:19 - Interest rates5:23 - Interest rates are relative10:00 - What it means to take the control of the banking function in your life13:01 - Taking loans19:01 - Make sure that you’re calculating life properly23:28 - Episode wrap-upAbout Your Hosts:Hosts John Perrings and John Montoya are dedicated to spreading the word about Infinite Banking so you can discover for yourself how you and your loved ones can benefit with a virtual streamlined process that will take you from IBC novice to sharing the strategy with friends and family... even the skeptics!John Montoya is the founder of JLM Wealth Strategies, began his career in financial services in 1998 and is both an Authorized IBC® and Bank on Yourself® professional licensed nationwide.John Perrings started StackedLife Financial Strategies after a 20-year career in the startup world of Silicon Valley where he specialized in data center real estate, finance, and construction. John is an Authorized Infinite Banking® professional and works nationwide.Interested in working with us? >> Connect with us here
Life Insurance is Not an Investment. Here's Why That's Important.
Mar 4 2023
Life Insurance is Not an Investment. Here's Why That's Important.
Episode DescriptionUnlike your typical investing, whole life insurance must be looked at in a different light. Life insurance is not an investment and it never has been. The good news is that, while life insurance is not an investment, what it actually is makes all of your investments perform even better.Tune in to this one and get a better understanding of how life insurance can play an important part in your overall financial life.LINK TO THE EPISODEEpisode Highlights0:00 - Introduction0:15 - Episode overview0:44 - “IBC is not an investment”7:54 - Creating a financial system to replace the one you already have13:12 - How you think, the “business owner mindset”16:45 - John Perring’s mindset change, guarantees20:37 - “Building on bedrock and not sand”27:16 - The moral case for using life insurance32:35 - Episode wrap-upAbout Your Hosts:Hosts John Perrings and John Montoya are dedicated to spreading the word about Infinite Banking® so you can discover for yourself how you and your loved ones can benefit with a virtual streamlined process that will take you from IBC novice to sharing the strategy with friends and family... even the skeptics!John Montoya is the founder of JLM Wealth Strategies, began his career in financial services in 1998 and is both an Authorized IBC® and Bank on Yourself® professional licensed nationwide.John Perrings started StackedLife Financial Strategies after a 20-year career in the startup world of Silicon Valley where he specialized in data center real estate, finance, and construction. John is an Authorized Infinite Banking® professional and works nationwide.ResourcesTheFifthEdition.com50% discount to our online course, IBC Mastery
Capital, Banking, and The IBC Grocery Store Analogy
Feb 24 2023
Capital, Banking, and The IBC Grocery Store Analogy
In his book, Becoming Your Own Banker, Nelson Nash did something very special to help readers gain a deeper understanding of the importance of capital formation.Rather than discuss money directly, he talked about it through the example of a grocery store owner stocking cans of peas.Nelson used food inventory because, just like money, it can be both sold and consumed.In this episode, we discuss the Grocery Store Analogy as a foundation to understanding The Infinite Banking Concept®."Don't steal the peas!"Link to episode: https://www.thefifthedition.com/ibc-grocery-store-analogyEpisode Highlights:0:00 - Introduction0:12 - Episode beginning1:16 - The grocery store analogy3:03 - How does this relate to IBC?8:18 - Being a part of what you consume11:56 - Capital has to come from somewhere13:55 - Being an honest dealer18:26 - Episode wrap-upAbout Your Hosts:Hosts John Perrings and John Montoya are dedicated to spreading the word about The Infinite Banking Concept so you can discover for yourself how you and your loved ones can benefit with a virtual streamlined process that will take you from IBC novice to sharing the strategy with friends and family... even the skeptics!John Montoya is the founder of JLM Wealth Strategies, began his career in financial services in 1998 and is both an Authorized IBC® and Bank on Yourself® professional licensed nationwide.John Perrings started StackedLife Financial Strategies after a 20-year career in the startup world of Silicon Valley where he specialized in data center real estate, finance, and construction. John is an Authorized Infinite Banking® professional and works nationwide.Connect with us:https://www.thefifthedition.com
Showdown: Short Pay vs. Long Pay Whole Life Policies
Feb 17 2023
Showdown: Short Pay vs. Long Pay Whole Life Policies
Get all the info you need about The Infinite Banking Concept® at:www.TheFifthEdition.comMain Episode Description:One of the most valuable traits an IBC practitioner can have is patience - you need to be able to “think long range”, as Nelson put it.Which brings us to today’s topic: short pay and long pay policies.This is a hotly debated topic amongst life insurance agents and there is a lot of confusing, contradictory advice out there. Today, we are going to weigh in on the matter and help explain these policy design approaches and how they pertain to the Infinite Banking Concept®.Remember, everything in the insurance business is a tradeoff between cost and risk. There is no free lunch. So what are the tradeoffs when it comes to short-pay and long-pay policies for the purposes of deigning a whole life insurance policy for IBC?This is super-important information so please give this one a listen!LINK TO THIS EPISODE:https://www.thefifthedition.com/60Episode Outline:0:00 - Introduction0:12 - Episode beginning2:55 - Some more context on “short pay”7:27 - Why do people write short pay policies?12:04 - Two other reasons that short pay policies have gotten more popular16:07 - Another trade-off and long-term payments18:06 - A policy becoming “paid up” and some more trade-offs23:07 - Another trade-off, lower death benefit24:24 - “Using your flexibility” and how it affects performance27:29 - “The ability to go down”29:45 - Measuring the performance of both35:35 - The rule of thumb and where you would do a short pay40:51 - The IBC mindset43:19 - Episode wrap-upGet in touchhttps://www.thefifthedition.com/p/contact/
Multiple Whole Life Policies for IBC
Jan 6 2023
Multiple Whole Life Policies for IBC
Description:A very common question we get is how multiple whole life insurance policies come into play for Infinite Banking.In chapter 6 of Becoming Your Own Banker, Nelson Nash states "...I am not describing one life insurance policy. This is to be a system of policies."In chapter 12 he states "We need a system of many policies to do the job [of accomplishing our banking needs]."So, what's this all about? How do we go about buying multiple whole life insurance policies and how is this even possible?Tune in to this important episode where we discuss the ins and outs of owning multiple whole life insurance policies for Infinite Banking.Episode Outline:(0:00) - Episode introduction(1:57) - The idea of having multiple policies(4:20) - One consequence to putting too much premium into a whole life policy(7:13) - The business owner mindset for IBC, “expanding your system”(11:19) - Buying a convertible term policy(15:40) - Short term vs. long term planning for IBC(18:41) - Having a better handle on your expenses, income and where it’s all going(21:41) - To sum it all up: Capital needs a home(23:06) - Episode wrap-upAbout Your Hosts:Hosts John Perrings and John Montoya are dedicated to spreading the word about Infinite Banking so you can discover for yourself how you and your loved ones can benefit with a virtual streamlined process that will take you from IBC novice to sharing the strategy with friends and family... even the skeptics!John Montoya is the founder of JLM Wealth Strategies, began his career in financial services in 1998 and is both an Authorized IBC® and Bank on Yourself® professional licensed nationwide.John Perrings started StackedLife Financial Strategies after a 20-year career in the startup world of Silicon Valley where he specialized in data center real estate, finance, and construction. John is an Authorized Infinite Banking® professional and works nationwide.
The Catch Up Provision of a Whole Life Insurance Policy
Nov 12 2022
The Catch Up Provision of a Whole Life Insurance Policy
With so much economic uncertainty, sometimes it can be difficult to fund the things in your life that are important to you, including your IBC whole life insurance policy. However, there may be a way that you can make up for the lost ground.The “Catch Up Provision” in the PUA rider of many whole life policies allows you to catch up with missed PUA premium from prior years. This is a critical feature with whole life insurance and, more broadly, Infinite Banking.There are times when we need to roll with the punches and there will be times when funding an IBC whole life policy to the desired level may not be possible. With the catch up provision, we have options to minimize the lost opportunity cost of hard times.Tune in to find out to learn more!Episode Outline:● (0:35) - Episode beginning● (1:01) - How a catch-up provision works, the history of it and where it fits into your IBC policy● (3:40) - “Taking over the banking function of your IBC policy”, how catch up provisions give you more flexibility● (5:20) - “Where does the income go?”, catch up provisions give you flexibility and options● (9:14) - “Should you prioritize maxing out your PUA rider, or repaying a loan?”● (10:58) - Is there such a thing as a “correctly designed policy”?● (13:52) - Common question: “Which company has the best PUA catch-up provision?”, how insurance companies update their productsAbout your hosts:Hosts John Perrings and John Montoya are dedicated to spreading the word about Infinite Banking so you can discover for yourself how you and your loved ones can benefit with a virtual streamlined process that will take you from IBC novice to sharing the strategy with friends and family... even the skeptics!John Montoya is the founder of JLM Wealth Strategies, began his career in financial services in 1998 and is both an Authorized IBC® and Bank on Yourself® professional licensed nationwide.John Perrings started StackedLife Financial Strategies after a 20-year career in the startup world of Silicon Valley where he specialized in data center real estate, finance, and construction. John is an Authorized Infinite Banking® professional and works nationwide.Connect with us:https://www.thefifthedition.com/
IBC, HSAs, Health, and the Freedom to Heal
Oct 26 2022
IBC, HSAs, Health, and the Freedom to Heal
In this very special special and personal episode, we interview co-host John Montoya's wife, Kelly Vail, about her battle with cancer.As a business owner, Kelly started IBC as a way to be more efficient with her cash flow. Little did she know that, years later, the living benefits of whole life insurance would literally save her life.When the healthcare system had no answers and gave her only months to live, the access to money created by her whole life and disability insurance gave her the flexibility and space that she needed to take matters into her own hands. Kelly has documented her journey, including the treatment path she took to get healthy on her blog here:https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kellyjvail---Episode Outline:● (0:17) - Episode start and introduction● (1:15) - What is a Health Savings Account (HSA)? How people view it and it’s limitations● (7:35) - The opportunity cost of HSAs, blurring the line between saving/investing● (9:40) - Why IBC is the best rainy day fund for medical expenses● (12:30) - Introduction to Kelly Montoya, her story and her battle with breast cancer● (20:03) - What Kelly realized about her health insurance coverage, using her IBC policy to get the treatment she needed● (25:45) - The reality of supplementing your income with disability, how Kelly actually utilized her IBC policy● (34:08) - IBC gave Kelly an alternative path that was literally life-changing, some big news● (40:25) - The last 7 months, the role that IBC played, episode wrapAbout your hosts:Hosts John Montoya and John Perrings are dedicated to spreading the word about The Infinite Banking Concept® so you can discover for yourself how you and your loved ones can benefit with a virtual streamlined process that will take you from IBC novice to sharing the strategy with friends and family... even the skeptics!John Montoya is the founder of JLM Wealth Strategies, began his career in financial services in 1998 and is both an Authorized IBC® and Bank on Yourself® professional licensed nationwide.John Perrings started StackedLife Financial Strategies after a 20-year career in the startup world of Silicon Valley where he specialized in data center real estate, finance, and construction. John is an Authorized Infinite Banking® professional and works nationwide.Connect with us:https://www.thefifthedition.com/
Do the Financial Rules Still Apply?
Sep 20 2022
Do the Financial Rules Still Apply?
When you’re making financial decisions for yourself, you need to be aware of the economic landscape around you. However, this can be difficult to do given how quickly and often things can change.This week, we tackle a listener question:“Will the traditional rules of finance hold strong or will the rules change in the next 40 years?”Tune in to hear John and John break down what the “rules” actually are. They show you what’s behind the curtain and who is really pulling the strings – but they also reveal how these “traditional rules” become so widespread and accepted.Episode Outline:● (0:17) - Listener question, the guys consider “the rules we have right now● (3:48) - Start of Part 1: What are the traditional rules of finance, what are the assumptions people have● (6:07) - Investing and saving, how one can harm the other when you’re wealth building or preparing for retirement● (12:01) - Rules, restrictions, limitations of custodial accounts (401ks, IRAs)● (17:34) - Issues with “being safe” and keeping your money as liquid as possible, inflation, money supply and where the banks and the government fit in● (23:41) - Mainstream opinions and where they can take you● (26:18) - Start of Part 2: The principles of personal finance that DON’T change, “traditional vs. typical”● (29:14) - The importance of contractual guarantees, how IBC grows and protects your money● (31:40) - The one type of rate of return nobody talks about - but IBC gives youAbout your hosts:Hosts John Perrings and John Montoya are dedicated to spreading the word about The Infinite Banking Concept® so you can discover for yourself how you and your loved ones can benefit with a virtual streamlined process that will take you from IBC novice to sharing the strategy with friends and family... even the skeptics!John Montoya is the founder of JLM Wealth Strategies, began his career in financial services in 1998 and is both an Authorized IBC® and Bank on Yourself® professional licensed nationwide.John Perrings started StackedLife Financial Strategies after a 20-year career in the startup world of Silicon Valley where he specialized in data center real estate, finance, and construction. John is an Authorized Infinite Banking® professional and works nationwide.Connect with us and get at www.TheFifthEdition.com where you can find additional resources and schedule a no-obligation consultation to see how IBC could work in your life.