The World Changing Podcast

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Join us as we talk to the skeptics, supporters, and innovators in the fields that depend on electricity to run their industries, which is changing every single day. Hosted by Greg Robinson and Flo Lumsden, an Aston podcast produced by Chorus Studios. read less
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The World’s Largest Climate Tech Accelerator on How We Innovate
Sep 11 2024
The World’s Largest Climate Tech Accelerator on How We Innovate
We sat down with The Accelerator Guy! That's Ryan Kushner of course - co-founder of Third Derivative, the world's largest climate tech accelerator. For context, Third Derivative is a non-profit joint venture of RMI and New Energy Nexus and the world’s largest and most resourced climate technology accelerator. The global, 18-month accelerator program coordinates commercialization between corporate partners (Wells Fargo, Microsoft, AT&T, Berkshire Hathaway Energy), 15 venture capital partners, and their portfolio of 198 startups, who have raised over $1.5B. We start by discussing Ryan's background and book, "Accelerate This: A Super Not Boring Guide to Startup Accelerators and Clean Energy Entrepreneurship," while exploring key themes in climate technology, startup innovation, and the transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy. Heard of "start-up valleys of death?" Ryan knows them well. The conversation highlights the importance of refining startup pitches, the societal adoption of technologies, and the challenges of transitioning entire energy systems, including the role of nuclear energy and grid integration. Finally, we also get into our personal motivations stemming from childhood pollution experiences and the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on air quality, fostering a sense of optimism about a future driven by clean energy and the necessity for justice in this transition.Referenced in this conversation:Do Not NOT Use this Pitch Format - Medium Volts Podcast - Learning Curves RMI Cleantech Revolution Third Derivative Blog - The Power of 83Connect with Ryan Kushner: Ryan's Website and Full Bio Linkedin
Key Findings and Deep Dives: Insights from The World Changing Podcast
Aug 1 2024
Key Findings and Deep Dives: Insights from The World Changing Podcast
When we look back, it's amazing how many common threads there are among our incredible guests. From Aston co-founder Ed McKenzie to Mark Jacobson of Stanford University, we are learning about the evolution of technology in various forms and how that impacts our energy future. It's Electric! Some themes discussed in this episode:- Consensus around the critical impact of climate change on utilities- The impact of fossil fuel emissions from power generation and transportation- The historical context of utility companies and the evolving energy grid- Shifts towards local energy systems - Challenges of achieving reliable renewable energy, potential solutions- Parallels between decentralization in computing and power generation Episode Outline:🎙️ Introduction and Answering "What's the Problem?" (00:00 - 09:32)Greg Robinson introduces the World Changing podcast, Flo introduces her recap episodeGary Rackliffe (Hitachi Energy, ABB) discusses climate change impact on utilitiesPower generation and transportation account for ~60% of carbon emissionsMark Z. Jacobson (Standford U., The Solutions Project) emphasizes urgency of solving climate change problemWind, water, solar solution proposed to replace fossil fuels🏭 Utility Companies and Grid Evolution (09:32 - 18:54)Greg explains history of utility companies as sanctioned monopoliesBill Nussey (Freeing Energy) discusses how energy systems required massive infrastructure and government interventionShift towards small, local energy systems is more profound than realizedUtilities are essential part of energy transition despite need for faster progressEnergy Internet concept: connecting distributed energy production centers for efficiency and reliability⚡ Renewable Energy and Grid Reliability (18:55 - 30:36)Gary Rackliffe explains challenges of 100% uptime with renewable energyMicrogrids and redundancy discussed as solutions for reliabilityMatt Loszak of Aalo Atomics presents small-scale reactors as potential solutionClaudio Spadacini (Energy Dome) introduces Energy Dome's CO2 battery for clean, efficient energy storage🔬 Power Grid Evolution and Future Trends (30:36 - 41:18)Greg and Ed Mckenzie (Google, Microsoft) discuss evolution of power grid (Power 1.0, 2.0, 3.0)Parallels drawn between power grid and web evolutionPower 3.0: Decentralized power with smarts living at the edgeChallenge of maintaining central grid as people transition to decentralized solutionsImportance of backup power in decentralized systems
Clean Energy Around the Clock Today!? Inventor and Energy Dome CEO Claudio Spadacini on his New Battery
May 6 2024
Clean Energy Around the Clock Today!? Inventor and Energy Dome CEO Claudio Spadacini on his New Battery
Born and raised in a small Italian town near the Swiss Alps, Claudio Spadacini learned from an early age that electricity can spark world changing innovation anywhere. Due in large part to their access to hydropower, the first car ever built in Italy came from his small town. In step, Claudio’s first aspiration was to design race cars. While he still loves race cars, Claudio eventually transitioned his passion into engineering and sustainable energy solutions. In this episode, Greg and Claudio recount first meeting at COP 28 in Dubai. Claudio shares his journey from the geothermal energy sector to Energy Dome - creating the world’s first CO2 battery. He also explains his perspective on what it takes to be truly innovative in a sector. Yes, this conversation definitely exhilarated Greg and his passion for physics! We hope you enjoy the conversation as much as we did.Outline: Chapter 1: Recap and Introduction to the Episode with Greg and Flo (00:38 - 04:33)Greg and Flo Recap the interview and introduce Energy Dome as a company focused on enabling clean energy production around the clock.The importance of energy storage for 10-12 hours is highlighted as a key missing piece in the clean energy transition.Chapter 2: Interview Begins, Meeting Claudio at COP 28 and Energy Dome's Mission (05:02 - 08:56)Claudio and Greg discuss meeting at COP 28 and sharing insights on clean energy initiatives.Claudio's background in engineering and his success in founding impactful technology ventures are mentioned.Chapter 3: Challenges in Geothermal Energy and Energy Dome's Solutions (09:17 - 14:46)The challenges of geothermal energy as a base load power source are discussed.Energy Dome's approach to solving these challenges and transitioning into energy storage solutions is explored.Chapter 4: Entrepreneurial Journey and Innovation Process (15:02 - 20:07)Claudio talks about the innovation process starting with deep knowledge and challenging the status quo.The importance of analyzing and synthesizing information to drive innovation is emphasized.Chapter 5: Energy Dome's Technology and Impact in the Market (22:00 - 27:43)The discussion shifts to Energy Dome's technology and its ability to maintain efficiency on a weekly basis for energy storage.Claudio explains the importance of stress-testing the technology and continuing to evaluate its performance in the market.Chapter 6: Standardization, Business Model, and Finance (31:19 - 43:34)Standardization challenges in geothermal energy projects are addressed, along with the goal of making Energy Dome's technology temperature independent.The scalability and financeability of the business model are touched upon, highlighting the need for creating a significant impact in the market.Chapter 7: Looking Back and Future Outlook (45:06 - 52:57)Claudio reflects on starting a company in 2007 and the importance of thinking big and being laser-focused on goals.The conversation ends with a call for strong teams and individuals to drive the transition away from fossil fuels towards cleaner energy solutions.Claudio Spadacini Bio and Publications:Claudio holds a Master’s degree from the Polytechnic University of Milan in Mechanical Engineering, specializing in Turbomachinery, Energy Production, and Conversion. Claudio was awarded the Sesini Award as a top graduate student and, during his career, filed 45 patents.He's the founder and CEO of Energy Dome, a leading long-duration energy storage solutions provider. The company developed the CO2 Battery, a breakthrough technology capable of storing a large quantity of energy cost-effectively and efficiently. Energy Dome’s mission is to unlock renewable energy and make solar and wind power dispatchable 24/7. An engineer by education, but most importantly, an innovator and entrepreneur by nature and experience, Claudio has founded multiple successful technology ventures in the energy sector, taking them from germinal concepts to tangible market leadership.Prior to Energy Dome, Claudio founded and led Exergy S.p.A., which, under his guidance, has developed and installed more than 500 MWe of binary geothermal power plants; the critical element of Exergy's success is the innovative radial outflow turbine, patented and developed by Claudio himself.He also founded Sebigas S.p.A., a company with a portfolio of over 80 plants specializing in designing, constructing and managing biogas plants worldwide. He’s also the co¬founder of Idroelettrica Cavaglio: this company built a hydroelectric power plant that holds the record for drilling the longest tunnel of its kind.In short, all of Claudio’s new ventures are based on disruptive technologies as he boasts a strong bias toward innovations and extensive knowledge of conventional and renewable energy systems, turbomachinery, and thermodynamic processes. PublicationsM. Astolfi, D. Rizzi, E. Macchi and C. Spadacini "A Novel Energy Storage System Based on Carbon Dioxide Unique Thermodynamic Properties.", Proceedings of the ASME Turbo Expo 2021: Turbomachinery Technical Conference and Exposition, Virtual - Online, June 7–11, 2021. V004T07A002. ASME. https://doi.org/10.1115/GT2021-59487“Organic Rankine Cycle (ORC) Power Systems. Technologies and Applications”, Editor(s):E. Macchi, M. Astolfi, Woodhead Publishing, 2016, ISBN 9780081005101, eBook ISBN: 9780081005118 https://doi.org/10.1016/C2014-0-04239-6.•        D. Rizzi and C. Spadacini, “Chapter 11 - Radial outflow turbines for Organic Rankine Cycle expanders”, Organic Rankine Cycle (ORC) Power Systems. Technologies and Applications, Pages 335-359, https://doi.org/10.1016/B978-0-08-100510-1.00011-9.•        M. Quaia, L.G. Xodo and C. Spadacini, “Chapter 14 - Geothermal energy exploitation with Organic Rankine Cycle technologies”, Organic Rankine Cycle (ORC) Power Systems. Technologies and Applications, Pages 473-525, https://doi.org/10.1016/B978-0-08-100510-1.00014-4.Lectures/PresentationsC. Spadacini, L. Centemeri, D. Rizzi, M. Sanvito and A. Serafino, "Fluid-dynamics of the ORC Radial Outflow Turbine", International Seminar on ORC Power Systems, Brussels, Belgium, 12-14 October 2015.C. Spadacini, M. Frassinetti, A. Hinde, S. Penati, M. Quaia, D. Rizzi and A. Serafino, “The First Geothermal Organic Radial Outflow Turbines”, Proceedings World Geothermal Congress 2015, Melbourne, Australia, 19-25 April 2015.C. Spadacini, D. Rizzi, C. Saccilotto, S. Salgarollo, L. Centemeri, "The Radial outflow Turbine Technology - Impact on the cycle, thermodynamics, machinery fluid and rotor dynamic features", International Seminar of ORC Power Systems, Rotterdam, The Netherlands, 7-8 October 2013.C. Spadacini, L. Centemeri, L. G. Xodo, M. Astolfi, M. C. Romano and E. Macchi, “A new configuration for Organic Rankine Cycle power systems”, International Seminar of ORC Power Systems, Delft, the Netherlands, 22-23 September 2011.
The Global Impact of Local Energy with Bill Nussey
Mar 1 2024
The Global Impact of Local Energy with Bill Nussey
Bill had an impressive career as a tech entrepreneur and businessman before he turned his sights (back to) energy. He started his first company in highschool - a graphics software company when personal computers were still text based. He has started and sold several tech companies. He joined one startup as CEO, grew the company to nearly $100 million in revenue, and then sold it to IBM. He then served as an advisor to the C-suite on at IBM on strategy. But even before all of this success, his first love was electricity and the power grid. After graduating from NC State University, Bill traveled all over North Carolina to inspect power plants - climbing down into dams and up towers - literally touching the vast infrastructure of the power grid.So what does this technology and business guru think about the future of energy? Looking through the lens of his technological and business experience, he began his career transition to renewable energy with a TED talk about accelerating the shift to clean energy. Then, he created the number one ranked renewable energy podcast called the Freeing Energy podcast and, ultimately, used his research to publish a best selling book called Freeing Energy at the end of 2021 - “how innovators are using local scale solar and batteries to disrupt the global energy industry from the outside.” Bill is now a Department of Energy clean energy champion. He co-founded a company called Solar Inventions, whose mission is to commercialize a set of scientific breakthroughs for improving silicon photovoltaics. He is again a venture capitalist, but for the energy transition. We talk about the power of networked technologies, the monopolistic nature of current utilities and discuss parallels between the mobile phone revolution and the future of local, on-site clean power. We even get to hear Bill's personal story of what has fueled his entrepreneurial career from high school to this very day. This is a good one guys. Outline Chapter 1: IntroductionTimestamp: 00:00-01:07Description: Introduction to the podcast and its focus on decentralized and carbon-free energy solutions. Introduces the host and producer.Chapter 2: Bill's Background and Freeing Energy JourneyTimestamp: 01:29-06:37Description: Discussion about Bill's background as a tech entrepreneur and his transition into the energy industry. Mention of his book "Freeing Energy" and the research journey behind it.Chapter 3: Sparking the JourneyTimestamp: 08:29-10:28Description: Bill shares a pivotal moment that sparked his interest in transforming lives through local energy systems.Chapter 4: Exploring Local EnergyTimestamp: 12:56-15:37Description: Highlights the importance of small, local energy systems and their potential to disrupt the global energy industry.Chapter 5: Parallels with Computing IndustryTimestamp: 16:45-18:35Description: Discusses the parallels between the electricity industry and the computing industry, particularly in terms of scalability and technological advancements.Chapter 6: Challenges and OpportunitiesTimestamp: 21:16-24:49Description: Explores the challenges and opportunities in transitioning to decentralized energy systems, including interconnection processes and the potential for global utility.Chapter 7: The Energy InternetTimestamp: 25:38-27:35Description: Introduces the concept of the "energy internet" and the need for a globally scalable tech platform in the energy industry.Chapter 8: Transforming LivesTimestamp: 36:28-39:31Description: Bill shares a conversation with a utility executive that highlights the transformative power of decentralized energy systems.Chapter 9: Fun Facts and StatisticsTimestamp: 48:38-50:47Description: Presents interesting facts and statistics related to energy, including the impact of solar and battery technologies.Chapter 10: ConclusionTimestamp: 55:58-56:13Description: Wraps up the podcast episode and encourages listeners to tune in to future episodes.
No Miracles Needed to 100% Clean Energy with Mark Z. Jacobson (Stanford U., The Solutions Project)
Feb 1 2024
No Miracles Needed to 100% Clean Energy with Mark Z. Jacobson (Stanford U., The Solutions Project)
Since he first struggled with air pollution as a teenager in Los Angeles, Mark Z. Jacobson has committed himself to understanding and solving this issue. And boy, has he succeeded! Today, Mark is a professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering and the director of the Atmosphere/Energy Program at Stanford University. He has published six books and over 175 peer-reviewed papers.His research forms the scientific basis of the Green New Deal and many laws and commitments for cities, states and countries to transition to 100 percent renewable electricity and heat generation. In Mark’s most recent book, “No Miracles Needed,” he says we still have time to save the planet without resorting to 'miracle' technologies. Not only is there no need for carbon capture, biofuels or nuclear power, but investment in these technologies are sucking up valuable time and money we could be using to scale existing clean energy technology - wind, water and solar. We also discussed one of our favorite challenges to greening the grid, incentives. How is the Inflation Reduction Act incentivizing the development of various forms of energy and “climate tech”? Let’s find out. References:Mark Z. Jacobson Full CV - Has links to Mark's breakthrough research as well as his interview on The David Letterman Show.Reference at 01:08:32 to organizations that track government subsidies to the fossil fuel industry .- International Monetary Fund The Solutions Project Outline: 1. Introduction to the World Changing Podcast (00:00-01:19)- Podcast's purpose: deconstruct projects and products for a decentralized and carbon-free future.- Host introduction: Greg Robinson, co-founder of Aston and producer.- Mention of first episode of the second season.- Guest introduction: Mark Jacobson, professor and director at Stanford University.2. Greg and Flo Introduce Mark Z. Jacobson2a. Mark Jacobson's Research on Fossil Fuel Elimination (01:32-05:09)- Mention of Mark Jacobson's work in 2015 on a mathematically verifiable plan to eliminate fossil fuels.- Research initially focused on the US and expanded to 139 countries.- Reference to Mark Jacobson's book, "No Miracles Needed".2b. Background of Mark Jacobson (03:24-06:30)- Mark Jacobson's position as a professor and director at Stanford University.- Publication of books and peer-reviewed papers.- Involvement in the Solutions Project.- TED talk and appearance on David Letterman's show.- Flo discusses her favorite parts of the conversation.4. Discussion on Climate Change and Finance (06:30-08:37)- Mention of attending COP28 and roundtable discussion on direct air capture.- Invitation to discuss topics Mark Jacobson has recently talked about.- Focus on avoiding explanations of Mark Jacobson's research and papers.5. Financial Challenges in Transitioning to Renewable Energy (08:42-22:09)- Exploration of financial challenges in renewable energy transition.- Emphasis on time constraints and urgency.- Mention of a guest with expertise in power electronics and transmission lines.6. Overcoming Barriers and Unlocking Financing (22:09-49:26)- Addressing the need for solutions to overcome financial barriers.- Reference to the importance of information and providing cost-benefit analyses.- Highlighting the necessity of stakeholder engagement and community involvement.7. Scaling Research and Engaging Stakeholders (49:27-1:14:03)- Discussion on scaling Mark Jacobson's research across 139 countries.- Consideration of forming a company or utilizing NGO-style mechanisms for scaling.- Importance of engaging stakeholders and policymakers to effect change.8. Conclusion and Call to Action (1:14:03-1:16:24)- Acknowledgment of the need to target specific listeners and stakeholders.- Appreciation for the conversation with Mark Jacobson.- Closing remarks and invitation to follow the World Changing Podcast.Note: The timestamps provided are approximate and may differ slightly from the actual timing in the transcript.
Modernizing & Decarbonizing the US Power Grid with Gary Rackliffe (Hitachi Energy, ABB, Westinghouse Electric)
Jun 20 2023
Modernizing & Decarbonizing the US Power Grid with Gary Rackliffe (Hitachi Energy, ABB, Westinghouse Electric)
The dream of the smart, sustainable grid. What will it take to achieve the energy grid of our dreams? We are so excited to share this conversation we had with Gary Rackliffe. Gary is a special person to talk to for several reasons. First, Gary has spent his entire 30+ year career building and designing the US power grid. Second, he is a leader in the planning and technology needed to modernize and decarbonize the grid for the future. Our biggest take away from our conversation with him is we may already have a lot of the infrastructure and technology needed to meet our future energy needs. If we add more transmission lines along side time-sensitive consumption, we could achieve a lot of our goals. What is your take away from this conversation?Let us know!Gary's Full Bio:Gary Rackliffe is the Vice President for Market Development and Innovation at Hitachi Energy located in Raleigh, North Carolina.  He is an industry leader for the energy transition, grid modernization, and digital transformation of the electric power grid.  He has extensive experience leading Flexible AC Transmission Systems (FACTS); Utility Operations Software business development, sales, and product development; Strategy and Marketing Communications for Power Grids products and systems; Regional Sales for T&D equipment; and Innovation and Strategic Initiatives for smart grid and grid modernization, the digital transformation, and the energy transition.   Gary is a member of the Department of Commerce Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency Advisory Committee (REEEAC), the DistribuTECH Advisory Committee, the GridWise Alliance Technical Council (past board member), the E4 Carolinas Innovation Council, and the IEC Smart Energy Systems Committee (SyC SE), serving as the SyC SE Technical Advisor for the IEC US National Committee.  He also chairs NEMA’s Utility Products & Systems Division Leadership Committee and serves on the Board of Directors for the Research Triangle Cleantech Cluster, the Smart Electric Power Alliance (SEPA), Texas A&M Smart Grid Center, and E4 Carolinas.Gary holds BS and ME degrees in Electric Power Engineering from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, NY and a MBA degree from the Tepper School of Business at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, PA.  He is a Registered Professional Engineer and an IEEE Senior Member.  He has co-authored a T&D planning book and has written numerous technical papers and articles.Terms and notes for the show:NYTimes article referenced in the introduction: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/06/12/climate/us-electric-grid-energy-transition.htmlTransmission and Distribution: A transmission line carries electric energy from one point to another in an electrical power system. They can carry alternating current or direct current,  or a combination of both.Transmission lines are important for moving energy around. HVDC:A high-voltage direct current electric power transmission system, offers long distance power transmission, Improved integrity of renewable energy and the ability to connect different power grids. Solar PV: PV stands for photovoltaic and it gets its name from the process of converting light photons to electricity, which is also called the photovoltaic effect.  This is another way (fancier) to describe solar power.Load versus Generation: Load is another word for the demand for electricity on a grid.It's the total electricity being consumed or removed from the grid by the users of the grid.Dispatchable power versus a Non-dispatchable power: These two terms refer to the ability of a power source to be controlled and adjusted, to meet fluctuating demand for electricity. Dispatchable power sources (currently) include fossil fuels, hydrogen, Geothermal and biomass power. Non dispatchable power also known as intermittent or variable resources are those that cannot be easily controlled or scheduled to match the electricity demand. Examples include solar power, wind power, wave and tidal power.These fall into the non dispatchable category because their availability is influenced by weather conditions and natural phenomenon. One gigawatt:One gigawatt is enough to power about 750,000 homes. So, three quarters of a million homes can be powered by one gigawatt.100% uptime: 100% uptime it's a reliability term. It is referring to perfect or near perfect reliability with no power outages.
Greg & Flo Take on Crypto
May 29 2023
Greg & Flo Take on Crypto
What the heck is crypto? And for that matter, what is money? Greg and I take a thought provoking and philosophical journey exploring these fundamental questions. Our conversation delves into the profound implications of these technologies and their significance in our lives. One of the key topics we tackle is the formidable energy needs associated with these technologies. Who will be responsible for installing the infrastructure necessary to support crypto and decentralized finance?Let's discuss!Here are references to the facts and topics discussed in our conversation, with timecode:(02:39) Greg asks Flo if she knows the difference between “coins” and “tokens.”To tell if you're dealing with a crypto coin or token, find out whether the cryptocurrency has a blockchain or not. If it has its own blockchain, then it's a coin, and if it operates on an existing blockchain, then it's a token. (reference)(07:05) Greg and Flo question when money began to be used in human society.In 2021, Chinese archaeologists with the State University of Zhengzhou announced the discovery of the world’s oldest known, securely dated coin minting site in Guanzhuang in Henan Province, China. A mint is a facility where currency is created. Sometime around 640 BCE, this facility began striking spade coins, one of the first standardized forms of metal coinage. (reference)(09:10) Greg says that in 2022, about 950,000 people in the world owned one Bitcoin.In 2022 according to blockchain analytics company Glassnode, the number of wallets holding at least 1 BTC or more reached 950,000. (reference)(28:00) Greg talks about Figure.comLearn more about Figure here: https://www.figure.com/about/(37:21) Greg says “The crypto industry has stomped out Ponzi schemes in a few years.”Greg is referring to the fact that previous ponzi schemes, like that of Bernie Madoff's, went unchallenged for decades. In contrast, the FTX ponzi scheme was caught and brought to justice within a few years of commencing operation. (reference)(39:15) Greg claims "The fastest rate of crypto adoption in the world is Africa.”In 2021, Chainanalysis noted that Africa 'has some of the highest grassroots adoption in the world, with Kenya, Nigeria, South Africa and Tanzania all ranking in the top 20 of our Global Crypto Adoption Index.'" (reference)(01:16:44) Greg: “AI will use more electricity than blockchain technology as a whole.”According to third party analysis sources, the race to build high-performance, AI-powered search engines is likely to require a dramatic rise in computing power, and with it a massive increase in the amount of energy that tech companies require and the amount of carbon they emit. (reference)(01:18:53) Greg: “We have to grow the grid by about 60% in the next handful of years.”"Most plausible pathways to net-zero emissions call for the electrification of multiple services, such as heating and transportation. The resulting increase in electricity demand will require major upgrades to the grid, with some studies suggesting a 60% increase in peak demand by 2050." (reference)