Justice Voices

David Risley and Guests

Eye-opening stories and commentary about crime, criminal justice, healing, and public safety. Giving voice to those with lived experience and expertise regarding the criminal justice system, healing from the trauma causing and caused by crime, restorative justice, and the need to shift from a punishment paradigm to a problem-solving paradigm of justice to achieve safer communities. Podcast website: https://justicevoices.org Host David Risley is a former career federal prosecutor and former Director of Public Safety Policy in the Illinois Governor's office https://david-risley.com Co-host for many episodes is Lynard Joiner, founder and CEO of Shifting Into New Gear (SING). Mr. Risley and Mr. Joiner first met on opposite sides of a federal courtroom on opposite sides of the law in a case in which Mr. Risley was the prosecutor and Mr. Joiner was a defendant. Now, after Mr. Joiner's return after serving 17 years in prison, they are friends and colleagues. read less
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Episodes

Ep. 5: Insights from Illinois Commission on Criminal Justice and Sentencing Reform
Aug 10 2021
Ep. 5: Insights from Illinois Commission on Criminal Justice and Sentencing Reform
This episode provides a big picture overview of why our criminal justice system needs improvement, especially regarding our overuse of prisons, by exploring the gold mine of information and perspective in the 2016 report of the Illinois Commission on Criminal Justice and Sentencing Reform. The primary focus of this episode is on the background information of the report, which is divided into four subsections: The role of prisonsThe impact of high incarcerationThe resource question (or what I refer to as the resource riddle)And finally, guiding principles and operating assumptions. Among the most important points we hope you take away from this episode are: Overuse of prison as a solution to crime problems is not only ineffective and hugely expensive, but also counterproductive, resulting in more crime, not less.We can’t punish our way out of our crime problems, especially in high crime communities.Therefore, rather than persisting in our currently dominant punishment approach to criminal justice, we need to pivot to a problem-solving approach.A problem-solving approach leads naturally to replacing overuse of prison with more effective and ultimately less costly solutions best delivered at the local level.But, increasing the capacity of local communities to scale up and effectively implement those local solutions requires funding on a scale that meets the need.To think those additional funds can come from savings from sending fewer people to prison not only gets the cart before the horse, it is also mathematically unrealistic, given the deep reductions in our prison population that must precede any substantial reduction in the costs of running the prison system.That is the resource riddle, and solving it is essential to public safety and community health. With that background in mind, you’ll be a much better informed listener for our upcoming episodes featuring interviews of remarkable people who have been to prison and returned to build new lives, people whose stories need to be told, whose voices need to be heard.
Ep. 4: Violentization (part 2)
Aug 2 2021
Ep. 4: Violentization (part 2)
The root cause of violentization is trauma from chronic exposure to violence, usually beginning in childhood or adolescence. Victims of violence become victimizers. Why? Because at some point the victim of chronic violence makes the decision that this is a violent, dog-eat-dog world and that to avoid being a victim of violence one must become more violent and dangerous than potential abusers or attackers – to essentially fight fire with fire. In part 1 of this episode, we explored the five-stage adaptive process of violentization described by criminologist researcher Lonnie Athens. In this part 2 we turn to the all-important question of prevention and interventions to interrupt and even reverse the violentization process at both the individual and community levels. A disease model is used for practical perspective. To reduce serious criminal violence, reduce and effectively treat violent trauma. Host David Risley maintains the solutions to serious criminal violence fall into four buckets: trauma, jobs, incentives, and educating the public. At the highest and most difficult end of the violentization scale, ultraviolent and predatory violent people are so dangerous, resistant to de-violentization, and malignant in their effect on communities that there is rarely, if ever, a practical intervention alternative to long-term incapacitation through incarceration. But even then, treatment of violentization is sometimes possible. At the lower end of the violentization scale, interventions include: Multi-systemic therapy (MST), an example of which is the Greater Bronzeville Community Action Plan being implemented in Chicago’s historic Bronzeville neighborhood through a partnership between the University of Chicago’s Chicago Center for Youth Violence Prevention and Bright Star Community Outreach, a faith-based community service organization delivering trauma counseling and other services to individuals, households, and even local police officers.Schools, often best positioned to observe the early symptoms of violentization such as defiance and aggression, and sometimes also to deliver trauma-informed therapy and other support services, especially when the trauma arises from domestic violence or other abuse.Parenting education, especially for children raising children.Trauma-informed counseling, an example of which is the TURN Center, a program constituting an element of the Greater Bronzeville Community Action Plan. A notable feature of the TURN Center program is it is largely modeled after the program and services delivered by the Israel Trauma Center for Victims of Terrorism and War (NATAL), representatives of which have trained TURN Center personnel.Antiviolence group resocialization, which Lonnie Athens recommends for adolescents and adults in the middle stages of violentization, perhaps conducted in settings such as a youth hostel, ideally led by former violent offenders hired due to their credibility with the target audience and trained to conduct such programs. Restorative justice programs and community and problem-solving policing are also important, but deserve fuller discussion in their own episodes. In the meantime, more on those topics is found on the antiviolence strategy paper published on David Risley’s personal website at https://david-risley.com. Finally, what may be the knottiest problem of them all: the resource riddle.