Urology Coding and Reimbursement Podcast

Mark Painter, Scott Painter and Dr. Ray Painter

The Urology Coding and Reimbursement Podcast is for Urologists and urology practice staff: Administrators, APPs, Billers and Coders. We help urologists and staff achieve peak economic and practice efficiency so there is time and energy to focus on patient care and a happy life. Your cohosts, Mark, Scott and Dr. Ray Painter discuss urology coding and share best practices for the urology office. We will answer submitted urology coding questions so that you can learn the concepts and apply in your practice. Learn the best practices: urology coding, revenue cycle management, scheduling, collections, patient information collection, pre-authorization, prior approval, charge capture, office communications, claim entry review, appeals, audits and billing, that we have tested and proven so you can adapt and incorporate. read less
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UCR 191: FAQs - G2211 age restrictions; void trial fail coding; gemcitabine instillation coding; and scrotoplasty simple v. complicated
Apr 12 2024
UCR 191: FAQs - G2211 age restrictions; void trial fail coding; gemcitabine instillation coding; and scrotoplasty simple v. complicated
April 12, 2024Mark and Scott discuss questions that have come into the PRS communities:Hi is there any documentation, regarding the age limit for G2211 or 99459?Our MD think that they only apply to patients over 65 years old.  Is this true or is there documentation stating we can use them on patients under 65 years old.  If a patient fails a Trial of void, and a catheter is placed, would the 51700 be coded or just 51702? Should it matter if pass its fail? The service was still performed. And the 51702 is a component of the 51700.What are the codes that I use for gemcitibine bladder installation in the office. I know I would use 51720 would be the cpt code but how do i bill for the medicine?For Scrotoplasty, complicated (CPT 55180), Does it need to be performed with either Graft of Flap, to call for "complicated"? I am trying to differentiate between 55175 (scrotoplasty, simple) and 55180 (scrotoplasty, complicated), thank you! New Courses Available for Urologists and Urology APPsDocumentation for Reimbursement Challenge for Urologists​ Use Special Discount Code:DRC5624 and Save 36% ​Documentation for Coding and Reimbursement for APPs​ Use Special Discount Code: DCRA5624 and Save 36%Certification for Urology CodersDocumentation, Coding, and Billing Certification Course for Urology CodersUse Special Discount Code: DCBSC5624 and Save 36%PRS Billing and Other ServicesClick Here to Get More Information and Request a Quote   The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook group.The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook Group link to join:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThrivingPractice/    Join the discussion:Urology Coding and Reimbursement Group - Join for free and ask your questions, and share your wisdom.Click Here to Start Your Free Trial of AUACodingToday.com
UCR 190: Enhancing Urology Practice Efficiency - New Training Courses Explained
Apr 3 2024
UCR 190: Enhancing Urology Practice Efficiency - New Training Courses Explained
April 5, 2024Mark, Scott, and Ray discuss why PRS developed two new courses, one for Urologists and one for APPs These courses aim to tackle the challenges practices face with documentation for reimbursement and efficient use of Electronic Health Records (EHR), emphasizing the importance of a unified team approach to stay updated on coding, billing, and documentation. They also discuss the critical role of Advanced Practice Providers (APPs) in urology, their billing nuances, and the necessity of continuous education to ensure financial health and combat provider burnout. The discussion wraps up with insights into the evolving landscape of medical coding and billing, stressing on AI's role in audits and the need for precise documentation. Links to further details about the courses can be found below. New Courses AvailableDocumentation for Reimbursement Challenge for Urologists​ Use Special Discount Code: DRC5624 and Save 36%  (ends 5/6/24) ​Documentation for Coding and Reimbursement for APPs​ Use Special Discount Code: DCRA5624 and Save 36%  (ends 5/6/24)Certification for Urology CodersDocumentation, Coding, and Billing Certification Course for Urology CodersUse Special Discount Code: DCBSC5624 and Save 36%  (ends 5/6/24)PRS Billing and Other ServicesClick Here to Get More Information and Request a Quote   The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook group.The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook Group link to join:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThrivingPractice/    Join the discussion:Urology Coding and Reimbursement Group - Join for free and ask your questions, and share your wisdom.Click Here to Start Your Free Trial of AUACodingToday.com
UCR 188: Change Health cyberattack updates, G2211 developments,  FAQs - Urodynamics authorization, taxonomy multi-specialty practice
Mar 21 2024
UCR 188: Change Health cyberattack updates, G2211 developments, FAQs - Urodynamics authorization, taxonomy multi-specialty practice
March 22, 2024Mark, Scott, and Ray discuss the Change Health cyberattack, G2211 developments and questions that came into the PRS Network.We have been receiving denials for our Urodynamics appointments because authorization was obtained under a provider that differs from the provider that signed off on the note day of services. For non-medicare plans (and plans that do not adhere to 100% of medicare guidelines) are we able to have a provider that is not on-site at the time of the UDS appointment sign off on the note?We are a multi-specialty practice that all share one TIN. If we send an established patient to be seen by a provider that practices under a different taxonomy, can this provider then bill under a new patient encounter? For example, Urology refered to Urogynecology or if Oncology referred to Urology? Additionally, can these pts be seen by differing specialties, at different office locations on the same day?   PRS Billing and Other ServicesClick Here to Get More Information and Request a Quote   The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook group.The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook Group link to join:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThrivingPractice/    Join the discussion:Urology Coding and Reimbursement Group - Join for free and ask your questions, and share your wisdom.Click Here to Start Your Free Trial of AUACodingToday.com
UCR 187: Change Health cyberattack update; FAQs - 99459 documentation, N30.10 denials, and 51701 for urine capture
Mar 15 2024
UCR 187: Change Health cyberattack update; FAQs - 99459 documentation, N30.10 denials, and 51701 for urine capture
March 15, 2024Mark, Scott, and Ray discuss questions that came into the PRS Network.Hello,What is the recommendation on documentation for new code 99459? Our practice is wanting to create a template for this procedure code. I know documenting a chaperon is key. Thank youHello,I need help.I am having issues with multiple insurance companies denying diagnosis code N30.10 stating it is an invalid code. Anyone else experiencing this issue? Any indication on what the issue is?I looked in the ICD10 code book and it states it is a billable code.Thank youHi I have a coding question for peds urology.Can CPT 51701 be used for a urine capture for UAs? Since this is peds our payor mix does not include medicare. I was under the impression that for commerical payors 51701 cannot be used for urine capture and that it would bundle into the E/M service.Also, shouldn't we be able to code 81001-81003 for the UA? The provider is only coding an E/M service with 51701.Thanks!  PRS Billing and Other ServicesClick Here to Get More Information and Request a Quote   The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook group.The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook Group link to join:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThrivingPractice/    Join the discussion:Urology Coding and Reimbursement Group - Join for free and ask your questions, and share your wisdom.Click Here to Start Your Free Trial of AUACodingToday.com
UCR 186: FAQs - Bladder neck resection or TUIP; LT/RT ureteral reimplant; and Lipiodol injection coding
Mar 8 2024
UCR 186: FAQs - Bladder neck resection or TUIP; LT/RT ureteral reimplant; and Lipiodol injection coding
March 8, 2024Mark, Scott, and Ray discuss questions that came into the PRS Network.Hello all, I have a CPT coding question,Indications = Urinary Obstruction // Post-Op DX = Obstruction of neck of Urinary Bladder Resectoscope per urethra into the bladder under direct vision. There was moderate trabeculations with no evidence of mass or stones. The bladder neck was noted to be elevated as seen on prior clinic cystoscopy. This was causing obstruction of the bladder outlet without significant prostatic hypertrophy.The bipolar resectoscope was used with the plasma button attachment to perform a TUIP at 5 o'clock, vaporizing the bladder neck fibers until the bladder neck was able to open properly and drain appropriately. Electrocautery was used for any small bleeding vessels and hemostasis was adequate at the end of the procedure.The recommended Code is: 52450, but the Coder is recommending Code: 52500.We're also taking Codes: 52276 & 52214 into consideration.... Please advise on what you recommend with the Rationale. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.I completed a  tapered ureteral reimplant  50783 on the left and a standard Non tapered ureteral reimplant on the right 50780 - does adding LT and RT modifiers allow both codes to be billed as follows:50783 LT50780.51.RT  does adding R /L mods  address the bundling issue?Coders noting that 50783 includes 50780 -- however this is  2 different sides and can't bill bilateral tapered 50783.50, as only tapered one side, and bilateral reimplant 50780.50 is undercoded for the additional time and complexity of ureteral tapering Has anyone billed for bladder injection of Lipiodol before? I have a provider who resected a large bladder tumor, then injected Lipidol in and around the resection site to aid with the patient's radiation planning for invasive bladder cancer. I was thinking this may be included in the 52240, but the office is suggesting unlisted code 53899 benchmarked to 52287 or 52283. Thoughts? Registration is open for the Documentation for Coding and Reimbursement for APPs Course - Starts 3/11/24Click Here for Information and to JoinPRS Billing and Other ServicesClick Here to Get More Information and Request a Quote   The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook group.The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook Group link to join:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThrivingPractice/    Join the discussion:Urology Coding and Reimbursement Group - Join for free and ask your questions, and share your wisdom.Click Here to Start Your Free Trial of AUACodingToday.com
UCR 184: FAQs - Clarification of split shared visit, and cystoscopy, dilation, and clot evacuation coding
Feb 23 2024
UCR 184: FAQs - Clarification of split shared visit, and cystoscopy, dilation, and clot evacuation coding
February 23, 2024Mark, Scott, and Ray discuss questions that came into the PRS Network: Regarding the most recent podcast episode on shard/split visits: Medicare's policy states that only one practitioner must have face-to-face time with the patient. In our practice the physician documents an addendum on the APP's note with the medical decision making portion of the visit. Per the episode, the physician must demonstrate involvement during the visit (not afterwards) in order to bill under the physician's NPI. Is there a guideline that states the physician must document their portion in real-time as the visit with the APP takes place? If they document the MDM portion of the visit in its entirety, isn't that enough to bill for the "substantive portion of MDM" as required by Medicare?For 52001, we commonly use this code for cysto and clot evacuation for gross hematuria under general anesthesia requiring rigid scope. Are physicians allowed to use this code for cystoscopy and irrigation of a clot with a syringe under local procedure or should they use 52000 + 57000?For 52281, does passage of the cystoscopy to dilate a narrowing in the urethra or meatus count? Or it is only meant to be used for cases where the meatus is cut or dilators or DVIU are used? Join the Documentation for Reimbursement Challenge - Starts 2/26/24Click Here for Information and to JoinPRS Billing and Other Services Click Here to Get More Information and Request a QuoteThe Thriving Urology Practice Facebook group.The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook Group link to join:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThrivingPractice/ Join the discussion:Urology Coding and Reimbursement Group - Join for free and ask your questions, and share your wisdom.Click Here to Start Your Free Trial of AUACodingToday.com
UCR 182: Clarifying Split or Shared Visits
Feb 9 2024
UCR 182: Clarifying Split or Shared Visits
February 9, 2024Ray, Mark, and Scott discuss questions that came in about split or shared Visits.Our questions are: When our doctors cover hospital patients, we often have Physician Assistants in the hospital rounding on new and follow up patients. Recently there is an Incident-to policy change, but I don’t think that applies to the hospital PAs since hospital charges cannot be billed incident-to. Regardless, what do you think of the following:Are our physicians able to bill for those visits at 100 percent?If yes, could they still bill via supervisory role to the PAs (i.e., the PA see the patient and discuss the patient’s case with the on call physician. The physician then formulates a follow up plan and communicate it directly to the PA without physically seeing the patient)? Or do the physicians have to physically see the patient to be able to bill?Are physicians able to bill for procedures done by the PAs at the hospital?Thank you so much for your assistance and guidance on this matter. G2211 Guidance Document [free download]Click Here for the Link to Download the Guidance Document PRS Billing and Other Services Click Here to Get More Information and Request a QuoteThe Thriving Urology Practice Facebook group.The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook Group link to join:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThrivingPractice/ Join the discussion:Urology Coding and Reimbursement Group - Join for free and ask your questions, and share your wisdom.Click Here to Start Your Free Trial of AUACodingToday.com
UCR 181: FAQs - Hospital E/M Codes, Ureteroneocystostomy coding, and Pelvis Exam Clarification
Feb 1 2024
UCR 181: FAQs - Hospital E/M Codes, Ureteroneocystostomy coding, and Pelvis Exam Clarification
February 2, 2024Ray, Mark, and Scott answer and discuss the following questions:The seminar this past week was great. I have one question that I asked during the seminar but still not sure of the correct answer. For an initial hospital consultation, I have been using 99223 and generally 99232 for follow up visits. Is this correct.Seeking clarification for the best way to code:Ureteroneocystostomy; anastomosis of single ureter to bladder with vesico-psoas hitch--Robotic approachis it an unlisted code or 50948? Thank you in advance :)I've received several questions recently on whether or not certain procedures can be performed in office by an APP alone (51720, 95972, Eligard/Firmagon injections etc.). Most codes as long as they are not surgical can be performed by an APP since they are a qualified healthcare provider, correct? Not sure where I can find info on this. I did check state statutes but found nothing specific about which procedures. Thanks!If a patient comes in for routine SPT change or lupron injection, and provider states return in a week or month for next change or injection, is that enough for a modifier -25 to billed?For the 99459 we have a gynurologist she does pelvic exams on almost all her patients unsupervised can we still add this code to her visits? Thank you G2211 Guidance Document [free download]Click Here for the Link to Download the Guidance Document PRS Billing  Click Here to Get More Information and Request a QuoteThe Thriving Urology Practice Facebook group.The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook Group link to join:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThrivingPractice/ Join the discussion:Urology Coding and Reimbursement Group - Join for free and ask your questions, and share your wisdom.Click Here to Start Your Free Trial of AUACodingToday.com
UCR 177: Discussion with Dr. John Lin - Removal of foreign body from penis; A great way to combat physician burnout
Dec 29 2023
UCR 177: Discussion with Dr. John Lin - Removal of foreign body from penis; A great way to combat physician burnout
December 29, 2023Mark, Scott, and Dr. Lin discuss topics from the Thriving Urology Practice Facebook Group:There is still no CPT code for extricating the penis from a foreign body, right?Guy used a 2.5 pound weight plate as a penis ring. Took an ortho saw to remove it.Medtronic Midas Rex handheld device with a circular Diamond bit saw was used to cut the plate at 3 and9 o’clock positions. 2 separate Medtronic Midas Rex devices had to be used due to heat generation.Complete transection of the plate was performed. Penis was protected from the heat and the blade toeffect a successful extrication.How do we bridge the gap between those urologists and APPs who are practicinghappily and getting paid for everything they do, not spinning their wheels, not burningout, vs. those who continue to suffer? Urology Advanced Coding and Reimbursement Seminar(Click Here for More Information and Registration) New Orleans, January 26 & 27, 20248 am - 4:30 pm Friday, 8 am - 3:30 pm SaturdayReserve your spot and save! Get signed up today and get peace of mind knowing you will be prepared for all the upcoming changes.The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook group.The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook Group link to join:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThrivingPractice/ Join the discussion:Urology Coding and Reimbursement Group - Join for free, ask your questions, and share your wisdom.Click Here to Start Your Free Trial of AUACodingToday.com
UCR 176: FAQs - Can you bill simple prostatectomy and cystorrhaphy; Value for new pelvic exam code; Can you bill uroflow and/or PVR twice on same day; and can you bill voiding trial post-op after prostatectomy?
Dec 22 2023
UCR 176: FAQs - Can you bill simple prostatectomy and cystorrhaphy; Value for new pelvic exam code; Can you bill uroflow and/or PVR twice on same day; and can you bill voiding trial post-op after prostatectomy?
December 22, 2023Mark, Ray, and Scott answer questions from the PRS Urology Coding Community:I have multiple providers who want to bill 55867 & 51860 for the same procedure. While there’s isn’t an NCCI Edit for these codes, you can see that the procedure description includes both the making of an incision in the bladder wall and then later the suture repair. Coding guidelines dictate that since you could not perform the main surgical procedure without the minor one, then the minor is bundled into the major. As a coder I don't feel that there is support for separate reimbursement when the two codes are routinely billed together. Their contention is that there are 2 ways to do a simple prostatectomy. The first is through the capsule of the prostate gland without a bladder incision. The simple prostatectomy code has traditionally encompassed the first way of not making a bladder incision and if an incision was made then a cystorrhaphy was billed. With the addition of the new code specifically for the simple prostatectomy, I would like some direction on how these codes should be billed.Have you been able to lookup what the reimbursement will be for the new CPT code 99459 for female pelvic exam?Can 51741 and/or 51798 be billed twice on the same day?For example, if a patient does the first urofow and the volume is not adequate and then we have him drink and come back later for a second uroflow. When billing 51700 for voiding trial post-op after prostatectomy (90 day global), is a modifier needed ? Such as modifier 58 Urology Advanced Coding and Reimbursement Seminar(Click Here for More information and Registration) New Orleans, January 26 & 27, 20248 am - 4:30 pm Friday, 8 am - 3:30 pm SaturdayReserve your spot and save! Get signed up today and get peace of mind knowing you will be prepared for all the upcoming changes.The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook group.The Thriving Urology Practice Facebook Group link to join:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThrivingPractice/ Join the discussion:Urology Coding and Reimbursement Group - Join for free and ask your questions, and share your wisdom.Click Here to Start Your Free Trial of AUACodingToday.com