Music (ed) Matters

Emily Williams Burch

A burst of energy for your commute! For future educators, those currently making music in any setting, or those wanting to see what really matters in the minds of music education professionals. *Show music originally written by Mr. Todd Monsell but adapted for this platform.

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Episode 176: Episode 176 - Cristina Marie Vivenzio, Broadway Producer on developing the new Broadway musical, THE OUTSIDERS.
Apr 9 2024
Episode 176: Episode 176 - Cristina Marie Vivenzio, Broadway Producer on developing the new Broadway musical, THE OUTSIDERS.
Let’s explore exactly what goes into developing a new Broadway music with producer (and Tony voter) Cristina Maria Vivenzio! If you haven’t heard, there’s a new book musical hitting the Broadway mainstream mid March and we can’t wait! The preview tracks have been epic! In this episode we talk all things from the classic novel, The Outsiders and how it’s being adapted to what’s destined for an award winning musical! Cristina Marie Vivenzio (Producer) is currently the Vice President of Production and Development at The Araca Group and a Co-Producer on their Broadway musical, The Outsiders. Prior to her time at The Araca Group, Cristina worked at the producing office, National Artists Management Company, during the opening of their Tony Award-winning production of Pippin before joining the theatre owner, Jujamcyn Theaters, as the Executive Department Director working directly with all senior leadership and the Creative Operations Department.  While at Jujamcyn, she was the Production Coordinator for the annual August Wilson Monologue Competition, a nation-wide high school event that culminates on the Broadway stage and filmed for Netflix in the documentary, Giving Voice.  Cristina is also credited as an Associate Producer on the Netflix capture of the Broadway show, Diana The Musical, filmed during the height of the pandemic while maintaining strict Covid production protocols. Cristina is a proud alumni of the Broadway League’s Rising Stars Fellowship, the Commercial Theater Institutes Producing Intensive and the People’s Institute for Survival and Beyond’s Community Organizing Workshop.  Cristina is a graduate of New York University, Tisch School of the Arts.Learn more about The Outsiders at Outsidersmusical.com. Listen to this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/XMTsMTNI8_g The Music (ed) Matters Podcast is sponsored by our friends over at Perform International. Thinking of going on tour domestically or abroad, want to take a solo tour, or team up with a dynamic festival? PI offers the best educationally sound and culturally significant experiences! Check them out, and tell them Emmy sent you :) Perform-International.com  Order your copy of “The Business of Choir" - check out the website, businessofchoir.com. Join us over at Patreon.com/MusicEdMatters for monthly meet-ups, monthly bonus episodes, special content, and more!
Episode 174: Episode 174 - John Hughes and Letters to a Young Conductor
Feb 6 2024
Episode 174: Episode 174 - John Hughes and Letters to a Young Conductor
Meet conductor and author, John Hughes. In this conversation, we discuss John’s new book, Letters to a Young Conductor: Thoughts on Music and Life, all about how to maintain joy in music-making, career development, and how to keep the big picture in mind. This is really the perfect episode following bonus #23 in December and Dr. Robertson in January! To get your primed for the convo, check out this blurb all about the book, but tune in to learn more! "Letters to a Young Conductor: Thoughts on Music and Life is now available in print and on Apple Books. I wrote this with a younger version of myself in mind. Over four sections, “Mindset,” “In Rehearsal,” “In Concert,” and “Building A Career,” I offer the advice I wish I had listened to when I was first starting out. It’s a mix of philosophy and practical tips sprinkled with humor. Letters to a Young Conductor is an ideal read for people at the beginning of their careers, experienced directors looking for encouragement, and even people in leadership positions outside of music."Learn more about “Letters to a Young Conductor: Thoughts on Music and Life” at www.johnchughes.com, https://books.apple.com/us/book/letters-to-a-young-conductor/id6448801303 and https://a.co/d/ilRdsz1 Learn more about John Hughes at https://www.johnchughes.com/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/l5vwKgyY6HMThe Music (ed) Matters Podcast is sponsored by our friends over at Perform International. Thinking of going on tour domestically or abroad, want to take a solo tour, or team up with a dynamic festival? PI offers the best educationally sound and culturally significant experiences! Check them out, and tell them Emmy sent you :) Perform-International.com  Order your copy of “The Business of Choir" - check out the website, businessofchoir.com. Join us over at Patreon.com/MusicEdMatters for monthly meet-ups, monthly bonus episodes, special content, and more!
Episode 173: Episode 173 - Dr. Troy Robertson -  Directing Choral Music and Mental Health  [part 1] (An A&C Curated Episode)
Jan 2 2024
Episode 173: Episode 173 - Dr. Troy Robertson - Directing Choral Music and Mental Health [part 1] (An A&C Curated Episode)
Happy New Year! And what a way to start with this awesome episode! We’ve started this little mini-series on avoiding burnout thanks to feedback we are hearing as part of ACDA’s Advocacy and Collaboration Standing Committee. The goal of these episodes is to provide our members and listeners with tools to avoid and overcome burnout - one of the leading causes to folks leaving our fabulous career. In this episode, part one of two, you’ll hear from Director of Choral Studies and Founder of ChorAmor.com, Dr. Troy Robertson. We talk about how to guard your time, explore what we really want in our life and careers, and a couple tools to help us. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/y8tT8DQNLFs  Link to Presentation: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1YihgiNT5yYTkoXObQwDrwX3TIzly3RYwUpr3nQ2GORQ/editLink to Choral Journal Article: https://choralnet.org/archives/650130 Stephanie Robertson, PhD, is an Associate Professor of Psychology and Director of the Child Center for Wellbeing at Tarleton State University in Stephenville, Texas. She has worked in public schools, non-profit institutions, and higher education for over fifteen years, with a focus on the wellbeing and healthy development of children. She researches the impact of invisible disabilities and student access to education at secondary and post-secondary levels. Her husband, Troy Robertson, PhD, is the Director of Choirs at Tarleton. He conducts Tarleton’s five choral ensembles, teaches conducting and choral methods, and supervises clinical teachers. He is also a composer whose works are published with Hinshaw Music, Santa Barbara Music Press, Colla Voce, and Music Spoke. They make their home in Stephenville with their ten-year-old son, Winton.The Music (ed) Matters Podcast is sponsored by our friends over at Perform International. Thinking of going on tour domestically or abroad, want to take a solo tour, or team up with a dynamic festival? PI offers the best educationally sound and culturally significant experiences! Check them out, and tell them Emmy sent you :) Perform-International.com  Order your copy of “The Business of Choir" - check out the website, businessofchoir.com. Join us over at Patreon.com/MusicEdMatters for monthly meet-ups, monthly bonus episodes, special content, and more!
Episode 23: Bonus Episode #23 - Ruth Hart and Empowering Small-Budget Arts Leaders and the Urgency for Change
Dec 12 2023
Episode 23: Bonus Episode #23 - Ruth Hart and Empowering Small-Budget Arts Leaders and the Urgency for Change
This conversation covers the recently released 2022 Survey of Public Participation in the Arts from the NEA. The decline in arts audiences from 1982 - 2022 as well as an upcoming workshop series designed to empower small-budget arts leaders to drive meaningful change in 2024 with relevance strategist, Ruth Hartt. Ruth Hartt leverages interdisciplinary insights to champion the arts, foster inclusivity, and drive meaningful change. Known for merging powerful perspective shifts with actionable insights, Ruth brings a unique blend of experience to her work as a relevance strategist for arts organizations.Currently serving as Chief of Staff at the Clayton Christensen Institute for Disruptive Innovation, Ruth previously spent nearly two decades in the arts sector as an opera singer, choral director, and music educator.Drawing on 23 years of experience in the cultural and nonprofit sectors, including six years’ immersion in innovation frameworks, Ruth helps arts organizations rethink audience development and arts marketing through a customer-centric lens.Her perspective as a relevance strategist has been shaped by her unique journey: growing up in blue-collar Maine, convincing teenagers to love choral music, training and performing as an opera singer, engaging with donors and opera patrons, and supporting the research of a Harvard Business School professor.This diverse range of experience provides Ruth with a distinctly empathetic and inclusive viewpoint, enabling her to connect with and advocate for a wide range of stakeholders in the arts industry.Find at more about the workshops: http://www.cultureforhire.com/a-path-forwardFind the slide deck: https://www.cultureforhire.com/articles/82-22 Listen to Ruth’s original podcast appearance in Episode 169! Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/tC3fv_7EKY8 The Music (ed) Matters Podcast is sponsored by our friends over at Perform International. Thinking of going on tour domestically or abroad, want to take a solo tour, or team up with a dynamic festival? PI offers the best educationally sound and culturally significant experiences! Check them out, and tell them Emmy sent you :) Perform-International.com  Order your copy of “The Business of Choir" - check out the website, businessofchoir.com. Join us over at Patreon.com/MusicEdMatters for monthly meet-ups, monthly bonus episodes, special content, and more!
Episode 172: Episode 172 - Dr. Peter Steenblik - Addressing Burnout!  (An A&C Curated Episode)
Dec 5 2023
Episode 172: Episode 172 - Dr. Peter Steenblik - Addressing Burnout! (An A&C Curated Episode)
You’ve met Dr. Steenblik before in his awesome episode about the sight-reading chorus as part of Florida All-State programming. We get to bring him back today, but this time addressing a BIG hot topic - burnout! Get ready for tools, ideas, and so much more — including guest co-host, Alex Gartner! This episode is part of the ACDA National Standing Committee for Advocacy & Collaboration Committee’s curated content.Check out more from Dr. Steenblik in episode 143! Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/QfCtU4Mlcc4 Resources list:Brock, Barbara L., and Marilyn L. Grady, Rekindling the Flame. Thousand Oaks: Corwin Press, Inc., 2000.Hancock, C. B., “National Estimates of Retention, Migration and Attrition: A Multiyear Comparison of Music and Non-Music Teachers.” Journal of Research in Music Education 57:2 (2009): 92-107.Hamann, D. L., “Burnout: How to Spot it, How to Avoid it.” Music Educators Journal 77:2 (1990): 30-33.Kim, Sung Eun, and David Barg, “Reducing Music Teacher Turnover and Its Consequences.” Music Education Policy Briefs (Boston University), October 2010.Siebert, Johanna J., “Why Music Teachers Remain in the Profession: Conversations with Career Music Educators.” PhD diss., Eastman School of Music, 2007. Unpublished.Strauss, Valerie, “Teacher: The Day I Knew For Sure I Was Burned Out.” The Washington Post, December 12, 2014.Warren, Franchesca, “Teacher Burnout is Real – Signs and How to Avoid It.” NAfME.org, May 20, 2015.+ Dr. Steenblik's own experiencesThe Music (ed) Matters Podcast is sponsored by our friends over at Perform International. Thinking of going on tour domestically or abroad, want to take a solo tour, or team up with a dynamic festival? PI offers the best educationally sound and culturally significant experiences! Check them out, and tell them Emmy sent you :) Perform-International.com  Order your copy of “The Business of Choir" - check out the website, businessofchoir.com. Join us over at Patreon.com/MusicEdMatters for monthly meet-ups, monthly bonus episodes, special content, and more!
Episode 168: Episode 168 - Allison Russo - The Critical Good
Aug 15 2023
Episode 168: Episode 168 - Allison Russo - The Critical Good
Let’s talk choir culture! Consultant, author, and educator Allison Russo has dedicated her career to creating more ethical and effective arts learning spaces. She has a BM from Ithaca College and an MM from Boston University, both in Music Education. As an elementary band teacher and non-profit arts leader, Allison has designed and delivered music programming to thousands of students and teachers. She has presented at state and regional conferences, colleges, and public schools on topics including ethical classroom culture, trauma-informed care, and gender equity in jazz education.Allison founded The Critical Good, an arts education consultancy in 2021, where she facilitates the creation of ground-up and equity-focused strategic plans for the arts departments of schools and nonprofits. She is also a graduate course facilitator for the Longy School of Music at Bard College, a collaborator with consulting firm WolfBrown, and freelance grant writer. She envisions a world where arts education is boundless, universally accessible, and joyful for all.Learn more about Allison Russo www.thecriticalgood.com. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/lIdqYSXxTh8 The Music (ed) Matters Podcast is sponsored by our friends over at Perform International. Thinking of going on tour domestically or abroad, want to take a solo tour, or team up with a dynamic festival? PI offers the best educationally sound and culturally significant experiences! Check them out, and tell them Emmy sent you :) Perform-International.com  Order your copy of “The Business of Choir" - check out the website, businessofchoir.com. Join us over at Patreon.com/MusicEdMatters for monthly meet-ups, monthly bonus episodes, special content, and more!
Episode 167: Episode 167 - Erik Jacobs - Middle School Monster Musicians and The Choir Dude
Aug 1 2023
Episode 167: Episode 167 - Erik Jacobs - Middle School Monster Musicians and The Choir Dude
Let’s talk about building thriving middle school choirs through authentic relationships, developing a culture of positivity, and keeping it FUN while creating monster musicians (Jacobs’ phrase in lieu of the more stuffy “independent musicianship” ) Meet Erik Jacobs, a choir director at Willard Middle School in Aldie, VA where he co-directs the Wildcat Chorus program which has over 400 singers in six different choirs. Prior to his current position, Jacobs was the choir director at J. Michael Lunsford Middle School in South Riding, VA. Both schools have been designated Blue Ribbon Schools of Musical Excellence consecutively by the Virginia Music Educator’s Association. Before his work in Loudoun County, Jacobs began his choral teaching career in Prince William County. Prior to becoming a choral music educator, Jacobs was an active touring musician, releasing two albums and touring with two of his own music projects: the Po’Boys Brass Band and ROC City Stompers. Learn more about Mr. Jacobs: https://www.slychorale.org/associate-artistic-director https://linktr.ee/erikjacobs https://tinyurl.com/MiddleSchoolChorusWatch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ZxrykEoWbnI The Music (ed) Matters Podcast is sponsored by our friends over at Perform International. Thinking of going on tour domestically or abroad, want to take a solo tour, or team up with a dynamic festival? PI offers the best educationally sound and culturally significant experiences! Check them out, and tell them Emmy sent you :) Perform-International.com  Order your copy of “The Business of Choir" - check out the website, businessofchoir.com. Join us over at Patreon.com/MusicEdMatters for monthly meet-ups, monthly bonus episodes, special content, and more!**Show music originally written by Mr. Todd Monsell
Episode 166: Episode 166 - Kevin Boushel: Championing Irish Choral Music (and more!)
Jul 11 2023
Episode 166: Episode 166 - Kevin Boushel: Championing Irish Choral Music (and more!)
Kevin Boushel is a conductor and music educator based in Dublin, Ireland. He is the Chamber Choir Director and a Government of Ireland Scholar at Dublin City University where he is pursuing a PhD under the supervision of Dr Barbara Dignam. In 2022 he was appointed Associate Conductor of the University College Dublin School of Music where he works with the UCD Symphony Orchestra and Philharmonic Choir. Kevin has delivered music programmes to students of all ages and abilities, from kindergarten to adult education. As a conductor, he has worked with collegiate ensembles, workplace choirs, community choirs, children’s groups, and semi-professional ensembles. He has presented his research at the national conferences of the American Choral Directors' Association, the Society for Music Theory, and the Society for Musicology in Ireland. Kevin is also a fluent Irish-language speaker and language rights activist. He served on the executive board of the Gaelic League in Ireland, and hosted a weekend show on choral music on Dublin's Irish-language radio station.In this episode we talk about Irish choral music and culture, multi-culuralism, muli-lingualism, coalition-building, and even anti-racist action. Lots to learn, hear, and implement. Can’t wait to hear what you think!Links from Episode: www.teanglann.ie - Teanglann, website with actors reading Irish words for pronunciationwww.cailino.ie - Cailíno Music Publisherswww.cmc.ie - Contemporary Music Centre Irelandhttps://www.singireland.ie/youth/youthsing-ireland - Sing Ireland's YouthSing resources for schoolskevin.boushel3@mail.dcu.ieWatch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/7VfbYP5bl1Y The Music (ed) Matters Podcast is sponsored by our friends over at Perform International. Thinking of going on tour domestically or abroad, want to take a solo tour, or team up with a dynamic festival? PI offers the best educationally sound and culturally significant experiences! Check them out, and tell them Emmy sent you :) Perform-International.com  Order your copy of “The Business of Choir" - check out the website, businessofchoir.com. Join us over at Patreon.com/MusicEdMatters for monthly meet-ups, monthly bonus episodes, special content, and more!**Show music originally written by Mr. Todd Monsell
Episode 165: Episode 165 - Chronicles of a First-Year Teacher (made it to summer!) with Kyle Feather - PART FOUR
Jul 4 2023
Episode 165: Episode 165 - Chronicles of a First-Year Teacher (made it to summer!) with Kyle Feather - PART FOUR
You first met first-year teacher, Mr. Kyle Feather, back in Episode 120 when we got a chance to talk to him on the FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL! You heard from him again in Episode 132, after the first concert. In Episode 152, right after spring break, we talked about all the things he is feeling confident with and the things he is still learning. This time, our final installment, we hear from Mr. Feather as he has made it to summer and reflects on the first year as a whole. We’re calling it “Sharpening the saw - Growing abilities in the off-season/Reflection upon the year/Planning for the following year.” We are super thankful for Kyle for sharing this year with us and we hope you listened to remember your first year, to learn for your first year, or to be inspired because…we have the coolest job, y’all! Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/J6dlKnFiWTc The Music (ed) Matters Podcast is sponsored by our friends over at Perform International. Thinking of going on tour domestically or abroad, want to take a solo tour, or team up with a dynamic festival? PI offers the best educationally sound and culturally significant experiences! Check them out, and tell them Emmy sent you :) Perform-International.com  Order your copy of “The Business of Choir" - check out the website, businessofchoir.com. Join us over at Patreon.com/MusicEdMatters for monthly meet-ups, monthly bonus episodes, special content, and more!**Show music originally written by Mr. Todd Monsell
Episode 164: Episode 164 - Jen Rafferty: Empowered, Aligned, and Taking Care of You!
Jun 27 2023
Episode 164: Episode 164 - Jen Rafferty: Empowered, Aligned, and Taking Care of You!
Let’s talk about living into your most authentic version of YOU! Educator, author, and international public speaker, Jen Rafferty started as a middle school music teacher for 15 years in Central New York. She is known for bringing her energy, humor and expertise in her presentations while inspiring educators to stay connected to their "why." Jen is a certified Emotional Intelligence Practitioner and is currently pursuing her Ph.D. in Educational Psychology.Since its inception, the Empowered Educator has reached teachers and school leaders all over the world. Jen has been featured in Authority Magazine, Medium, Thrive Global, Voyage MIA, and was on the TEDx stage with her talk, Generational Change begins with Empowered Teachers. She is also the host of the podcast, Take Notes with Jen Rafferty, which is rated in the top 3% of podcasts globally.In this episode we cover tons of tools, tips, and techniques to help you empower and align your world including: The sacrifice/renewal cycle as the problem & the solution for burnout.The power of language & how it reflects and directs our reality.Swapping work/life balance for work/life blend.The difference between positive psychology and toxic positivity.How the “shoulds" and "supposed-to's" are what's keeping you from work satisfaction.Learn more about Jen Rafferty: https://empowerededucator.com/https://www.facebook.com/groups/empowerededucatorfacultyroomhttps://www.instagram.com/jenrafferty_/Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/AyJYdbuiWNw The Music (ed) Matters Podcast is sponsored by our friends over at Perform International. Thinking of going on tour domestically or abroad, want to take a solo tour, or team up with a dynamic festival? PI offers the best educationally sound and culturally significant experiences! Check them out, and tell them Emmy sent you :) Perform-International.com  Order your copy of “The Business of Choir" - check out the website, businessofchoir.com. Join us over at Patreon.com/MusicEdMatters for monthly meet-ups, monthly bonus episodes, special content, and more!**Show music originally written by Mr. Todd Monsell
Episode 163: Episode 163 - An A&C Curated Episode: Composer/Author Dale Trombore - “Know Your Own Process”
Jun 20 2023
Episode 163: Episode 163 - An A&C Curated Episode: Composer/Author Dale Trombore - “Know Your Own Process”
Dale Trumbore is a Los Angeles-based composer and writer whose music has been called "devastatingly beautiful" (The Washington Post) and praised for its "soaring melodies and beguiling harmonies deployed with finesse" (The New York Times). Trumbore's compositions have been performed by the Chicago Symphony's MusicNOW ensemble, Conspirare and the Miró Quartet, soprano Liv Redpath, Los Angeles Master Chorale, Modesto Symphony, and Pasadena Symphony. She has written extensively about working through creative blocks and establishing a career in music in essays and in her first book, Staying Composed. Learn more about Trumbore’s music and writing at daletrumbore.com.In this episode, we talk about collaboration and advocacy related to composers, writers, and more! Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/tKVY7X-sxVs The Music (ed) Matters Podcast is sponsored by our friends over at Perform International. Thinking of going on tour domestically or abroad, want to take a solo tour, or team up with a dynamic festival? PI offers the best educationally sound and culturally significant experiences! Check them out, and tell them Emmy sent you :) Perform-International.com  Order your copy of “The Business of Choir”: https://www.giamusic.com/store/resource/the-business-of-choir-book-g10713 or check out the website, businessofchoir.com. Join us over at Patreon.com/MusicEdMatters for monthly meet-ups, monthly bonus episodes, special content, and more!**Show music originally written by Mr. Todd Monsell
Episode 162: Episode 162 - LIVE From Choir Tour (featuring singers from Clemson University on tour with Perform International)
Jun 13 2023
Episode 162: Episode 162 - LIVE From Choir Tour (featuring singers from Clemson University on tour with Perform International)
Ever wonder what the singers think after their FIRST international choir tour? Yea - me too! And in May, I got to go on tour as the “artistic advisor” with Clemson University Singers, under the direction of Dr. Anthony Bernarducci, as they traveled to London, Cambridge, Canterbury, Rouen, and Paris with Perform International. In this episode, you’ll hear from singers of all backgrounds - performing arts, engineering, history, and more! - as they answer their most memorable tour moments. We recorded this while waiting in line to go up the Eiffel Tower on their last full day in Paris before heading back to the States. We hope this episode inspires you to explore - explore new music, explore new places, or even just explore more ways to infuse your singer’s thoughts, cares, and interests into your choral communities. Learn more about Clemson Choirs Here: https://www.clemson.edu/caah/academics/performing-arts/perform/choir.htmlThe Music (ed) Matters Podcast is sponsored by our friends over at Perform International. Thinking of going on tour domestically or abroad, want to take a solo tour, or team up with a dynamic festival? PI offers the best educationally sound and culturally significant experiences! Check them out, and tell them Emmy sent you :) Perform-International.com  Order your copy of “The Business of Choir”: https://www.giamusic.com/store/resource/the-business-of-choir-book-g10713 or check out the website, businessofchoir.com. Join us over at Patreon.com/MusicEdMatters for monthly meet-ups, monthly bonus episodes, special content, and more!**Show music originally written by Mr. Todd Monsell
Episode 159: Episode 159 - Josh Habermann and The International Conductors Exchange Program (An ACDA Advocacy & Collaboration Curation Episode)
May 23 2023
Episode 159: Episode 159 - Josh Habermann and The International Conductors Exchange Program (An ACDA Advocacy & Collaboration Curation Episode)
In this month’s ACDA Advocacy and Collaboration Curated Episode you get to meet a fellow ACDA Standing Committee Chair, Dr. Joshua Habermann. Habermann chairs the International Activities Committee and in this conversation we explore what they do and why or how you can participate - but we also talk about Dr. Habermann’s work in the professional chamber choir world with the Santa Fe Desert Chorale as well as thoughts on work-life balance and choices that all conductors face. This episode has a little bit of everything - including vulnerability - and we can’t wait for you to give it a listen to see what collaborations or advocacy moments it inspires! Find out more about the ACDA International Activities Standing Committee: https://desertchorale.org/about/our-people/ https://acda.org/resources/icep Listen to this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/XbZcflYHnMQ The Music (ed) Matters Podcast is sponsored by our friends over at Perform International. Thinking of going on tour domestically or abroad, want to take a solo tour, or team up with a dynamic festival? PI offers the best educationally sound and culturally significant experiences! Check them out, and tell them Emmy sent you :) Perform-International.com  Order your copy of “The Business of Choir”: https://www.giamusic.com/store/resource/the-business-of-choir-book-g10713 or check out the website, businessofchoir.com. Join us over at Patreon.com/MusicEdMatters for monthly meet-ups, monthly bonus episodes, special content, and more!**Show music originally written by Mr. Todd Monsell