Everyone is Music

Michael Fry

I'm your host, Michael Fry and on this show I'll be discussing this beautiful stuff called Music; what is it, what is its role in the world, how do we relate to it and why?

Through my 38 year career in commercial music, community music and inclusive arts, I have made a great network of amazing people to interview and share their stories, thoughts and their work with you. Of course, I'm sure that this network will grow and I will be chatting with people who I've never met before and become inspired by their stories.

Music is one of the greatest activities on Earth and so much more than just commercial music in all of its forms and genres. Music is fundamental to being Human and this is why I'm here. To talk about that.

Inclusion and access to music is what I am extremely passionate about and I want to explore this in depth. Wellness is also a theme that runs through this podcast as it is such an amazing byproduct of engaging with music.

And I really hope that you will get involved too by suggesting topics and guests and help to grow our community organically. You may even have that great story that needs to be shared. I want this to be our show, where Everyone is Music.


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Ep 15 John Kelly
Jul 13 2022
Ep 15 John Kelly
Great to be back this week with another wonderful interview.This week I am talking with John Kelly. John is a musician, singer, actor, activist and much more besides.I first met John at The Orpheus Centre, Richard Stilgoe's residential creative hub for young adults with disabilities.John was program coordinator and I was running music technology sessions in the main.John has had an amazing career to date, working as a youth worker, music educator, actor - John toured the Ian Dury show "Reasons to be cheerful" in the Dury role.John made a surprise appearance at the opening ceremony of the 2012 Paralympics opening ceremony, singing the sometime controversial "Spasticus Autisticus", Dury's banned anthem to equality.John talks passionately about the Social Model of Disability as opposed to the Medical Model. Some fascinating insights come from this including John's childhood exposure to Music Therapy as his only access to music.John talks about his role in shaping the National Plan for Music with a greater emphasis on both technology and mixed inclusive approaches.We talk about the development of the "Kellycaster", John's bespoke guitar/software system that was developed with Drake Music.John talks about wanting to address the expectations of disabled people in education and greater diversity.John has an album out soon and his new single, 'Which side are you on?' is out now, is challenging, beautiful and you really should listen and download!John Kelly's Linktree "Which side are you on?" - John's new singleEternal GuitarsMy Links See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Ep 12 Emma Hughes
Jun 22 2022
Ep 12 Emma Hughes
Welcome to episode 12.This week my guest is Emma Hughes. Emma is the choir coordinator and director at Soundabout (Listen to Ep 7 with Clare Cook) and was instrumental in developing their work and delivery over Zoom during the Pandemic Lockdowns. Emma talks about the organic growth of her roles at Soundabout and particularly choir leading and setting up the tech.When I first contacted Emma, she was out on tour and I finally got to ask her where, what, with whom.Emma reveals that for the past 11 years she has been the live Bass player for Kate Nash and had been on tour with Kate in Germany. The portfolio career model is truly alive and very well. Emma talks about how she got the gig with Kate whilst an undergraduate studying performance and writing her dissertation on Music Therapy whilst on tour. Through working as a TA in SEN schools, Emma's interest in this area grew and she began to build her music practice over the ensuing years.Emma talks about the upcoming program at Soundabout and then we talk about Emma's journey into community music, the organic nature of this. We talk about music in society and how as working practitioners we begin to unpick formal training and develop new ways of thinking, playing and teaching through our work. Emma touches upon Christopher Small's idea of 'Musicking' and how all of the people surrounding music, the bar staff, the venue, the ticket seller, for example, all play a role in the activity of making music. I'm sure we can all resonate with this idea.As this episode goes out, Emma is on her way to Glastonbury Festival to perform 2 shows with Sam Brookes. I look forward to catching up with Emma in the months to come as I'm sure that her career in music will only continue to be a fascinating one.SoundaboutKate Nash Touring LifeSam BrookesEternal GuitarsAll My Links See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Ep 11 Rachael Perrin and Soundcastle
Jun 15 2022
Ep 11 Rachael Perrin and Soundcastle
This week I am talking with Rachael Perrin from Soundcastle. Soundcastle are an amazing community music organisation, running sustained programs in community spaces, some of which are very discreet and 'Hidden'. Rachael describes this so well for us. Musical Beacons is a program for vulnerable families, often young women with children escaping from abusive situations. People's Music is a program all about adult mental health recovery. Soundcastle's work is often in gaps in current provision and is all about mental health and wellbeing.We discuss the challenges of attracting funding when much of your work, by its very nature, must remain invisible.Rachael tells us about The Soundcastle Community, an online space for community musicians to connect with other but also offering extensive training programs. Rachael describes this as a kind of online Arts centre.Soundcastle also work in sector development, consulting on inclusive practice and lots of training provision, including Mental Health First Aid.It was great to hear about Rachael's own journey into community music and her passion for the work.I was so impressed by our conversation and I raise a glass to Soundcastle's commitment to transparency in all that they do. Happily sharing their business model and all that they have gone through to get to where they are now. True community spirit.Soundcastle websiteThe Soundcastle CommunitySoundcasle LinkedIn All other social media use @SoundcastleTeamEternal GuitarsMy Links See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Ep 05 MAC Makes Music - with Holly Radford-James
May 5 2022
Ep 05 MAC Makes Music - with Holly Radford-James
In this week's episode I talk with Holly Radford-James, Producer with MAC Makes Music. Based at The Midland Arts Centre, MAC Makes Music are a truly inclusive arts organisation and one of their strategic consultants and trainers is Phil Mullen, who is featured in episode 2.Holly begins by taking us on a mini tour of the arts centre before talking about the award winning program that is MAC Makes Music, its inception and development.The total commitment to a young person centred approach is so inspiring and through our conversation I come to view MMM as a Music "Super" Hub, offering a blueprint to the future of inclusive music making and education in England and beyond.Holly talks about working through lockdowns and their relationship with the organisation, Soundabout and how together they have developed online choirs and the community that those choirs are providing.Holly describes for us the many groups being engaged by MMM and the wealth of genres of music being made by the choices of the young people.We talk about Open Mic nights and how these sometimes lead to larger live music performances. We return to discussing online activity and how vital this has become to the musical landscape.Our conversation moves on to music playing such a role in social and personal development as well as musical development of course and Holly tells us how important this is in the work of MAC Makes Music.The MAC Makes Music program is inspiring, inclusive and driven by the needs of the young people being engaged. Follow the links for more.MAC Makes Music websiteFacebookTwitterEternal GuitarsAll My Links See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Ep 04 Dr Rod Paton
Apr 27 2022
Ep 04 Dr Rod Paton
In this episode I talk with Dr Rod Paton, musician, writer, composer, educator and creator of the Lifemusic method.We chatted in my car after meeting for lunch the day after I attended one of Rod's Lifemusic workshops.I start the conversation by asking Rod about Lifemusic [4:10] and Rod talks about how he came to begin its development via some time researching community choirs in Germany. Rod talks about the folk song tradition in Germany at that time, playing in a community ensemble there and his realisation about a way of making music that bypasses commercial and traditional classical music models.Rod talks about grade teaching [7:18] and particularly singing traditions and deciding that he wanted to explore improvisation and its inherently inclusive properties.Improvisation [7:53] is, as I say in the intro, at the heart of Rod's work and we talk more about this.Rod discusses notation [9.43] and the different parts of the brain being used and what can happen when you take it away creating "risks" [10:41] and the freedom that can be found.I then ask Rod about "rules" and "holding forms" [12:23] and how he came to create them. The term Holding form comes from a book by Robert Witkin , The intelligence of Feeling.We discuss recording our work [16:18] and recorded music in general and what a recent phenomena it is within the history of music. Rod equates it to the the Observer Effect [17.43] (we both confused it with the uncertainty principle! We meant that when you observe a thing it changes from a wave to a particle) in that when you know that you are being recorded you will move into "performer" mode rather than pure "feeling" mode. Rod talks about the industry of recorded music and how we may look back on this period as a mere blip within music history.Rod talks about his love of and relationship with Moravian folk music [21:43] and with the Czech Rebublic.Rod then mentions his Tedx Talk and how he discussed that sometimes consumed music can feel like a drug [24:23] and because we have so much recorded music, like inflation, it becomes devalued and does not meet music's real function [27:48]Rod then talks about his love of Bach [28:18] and how he developed a workshop piece out of this.Finally Rod expands our knowledge of the Lifemusic Holding Forms [31:07]Lifemusic websiteRod's Tedx TalkEternal GuitarsMy linksOpen Mic Improvisation - NB as we talk about in the show, recording Lifemusic sessions changes the dynamic. This improvisation was made in a performance context and therefore is not an example of a Lifemusic session but certainly a good example of improvised music making. I mention the musician Keith Sutton in the intro, however his performing name is "Drone in the Woods" See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Ep 01 Sam Brown
Apr 20 2022
Ep 01 Sam Brown
In this Episode I talk with singer-songwriter, Sam Brown who had a massive hit all across Europe and the UK with the song, 'Stop!'.The sub-title of this episode is 'In the beginning ...' because it was close to the start of my own career in music that I worked as a tape op on Sam's debut album.Sam talks very openly about her career, her departure from her record company and a move to making the music that she really wanted to make.Sam says that all of the promotion of 'Stop!' became a full time job in and of itself and took her away from the thing she loved most; making music.Sam has had an amazing career as a singer, not only as a solo artist but also as a highly praised backing singer, working and touring with Pink Floyd and of course, her stunning work with Jools Holland's Rhythm and Blues Orchestra.Sam talks about the devastation of losing her mum, Vicki, to cancer and how it shaped the music she was writing at the time.Then, Sam mysteriously lost her voice and has still not discovered how or why and talks of the emotional pain of this loss and how her hopes have risen and fallen with each attempt with a coach or therapist to bring back that amazing voice.Sam has beautifully given her time and expertise in coaching others by running Ukulele groups both in person and over the internet and has a myriad of stories to tell about her wonderful students and her relationships with them.A new album is also on the way; a very different approach because of Sam's vocal restrictions but a delight is certainly in waiting for our ears.All my linksEternal Guitars See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.