Talk Murder With Me

Natalie DeGroot

Welcome to Talk Murder With Me where I'll discuss murders, mysteries, missing persons and everything in between. Please sit back, relax and enjoy all the sinister stuff this world has to offer with me.

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In Talk Murder With Me, Natalie DeGroot guides listeners through some gruesome true crime cases. Her podcast chronicles stories about murderers in the US and the UK. From “The Suitcase Killer” to “The Freeway Phantom,” DeGroot explores the lurid nature of mankind.

Take Benjamin Sifrit and his wife, Erika. As the “Killing for Kicks” episode tells it, the Sifrits became “thrill killers.” The two became fast friends with another couple over the 2002 Memorial Day weekend. What possessed the Sifrits to cut up their new friends' bodies and toss them in the garbage? The Talk Murder With Me podcast explains.

Then there's Anthony Morley, who went from being the “Mr. Gay U.K.” winner to the “Cannibal Chef.” Or “Syko Sam,” who took his horrorcore rapper persona too far with a quadruple slaying. And the London couple who murdered an au pair, then burned her body in a bonfire. Talk Murder With Me discusses all of these cases.

Other Talk Murder With Me episodes explore how authorities failed to safeguard victims. For example, Mitrice Richardson took off from a Malibu jail in the middle of the night. She went missing for 11 months. Then someone discovered her mummified remains at the bottom of a canyon. The sheriff's department showed little interest in investigating what happened. DeGroot attempts to find out why.

DeGroot is a freelance writer with a passion for investigating serial killers. This helps her make the Talk Murder With Me podcast compelling listening. She uses a soft accent and a clear, soothing tone. It proves to be a stark contrast to the graphic crimes she chronicles. Yet, as the podcast title suggests, DeGroot loves to talk shock. New episodes come out on a periodic basis.

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Episodes

Ep 24 - Riley Whitelaw: The Walgreens Murder
Sep 28 2022
Ep 24 - Riley Whitelaw: The Walgreens Murder
Colorado Springs, Colorado. June 11, 2022. 17-year-old Riley Whitelaw reported her 28-year-old coworker, Joshua Johnson, to her manager at Walgreens. Johnson had been making advances unwanted towards Riley, which were making her seriously uncomfortable at work. This wasn't the first time she had made a report about him either.She asked for her schedule to be changed so that she would no longer have to work with Johnson. But when she asked for extra hours, her manager told her that this would mean crossing paths with Johnson.Three weeks later, she was found murdered in the break room at work.This case is currently ongoing. Joshua Johnson had a preliminary hearing on September 16, in which detectives working the case testified that no one other than Johnson could be responsible for Riley's murder.A judge ruled the evidence given at the hearing sufficient for Johnson to go to trial. His arraignment is scheduled for Nov 15, where he will plead guilty or not guilty.I'll post any updates on my Instagram.The Murder of Riley Whitelaw (my blog post on this case)Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeSupport me by buying me a coffee ☕SourcesGoFundMe Page - In Loving Memory - Riley Riley Whitelaw ObituaryPreliminary hearing for suspect in Colorado Springs Walgreens homicideArrest papers: Teen found dead at Colorado Springs Walgreens allegedly had concerns about suspect since last yearTeenage Walgreens employee in Colorado Springs reported coworker before she was found dead in breakroomA Walgreens Employee Was Accused Of Killing A Teenage Coworker Who Had Rejected His AdvancesDocs: Teen asked not to work with coworker facing charges for her murder at WalgreensJoshua Johnson charged with first-degree murder in killing of teen co-worker at Walgreens‘There Was Blood Everywhere’: Walgreens Employee Charged with Killing Teen Co-Worker Who Told Management His ‘Advances’ Made Her ‘Uncomfortable’Riley Whitelaw funeral service scheduled in Colorado SpringsTeen employee killed inside Walgreens in Colorado Springs was stabbed more than 40 timesAutopsy report reveals horrific new information on murder of teen at Colorado Springs WalgreensLabor attorney raises concerns about handling of complaint before murder at Colorado Springs WalgreensLabor attorney weighs in on girl allegedly murdered by coworker in Colorado Springs WalgreensMan Allegedly Killed Teen Walgreens Coworker Who'd Rejected His AdvancesMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 23 - Terror in Suburbia: The Cheshire Murders
Aug 21 2022
Ep 23 - Terror in Suburbia: The Cheshire Murders
Cheshire, Connecticut. July 23, 2007. Cheshire has pretty much everything you'd want if you were looking for a quiet, peaceful place to raise a family. The houses are spacious, the lawns are well-manicured and leafy trees line the streets. But what's most attractive about Cheshire is that it's safe. At least, that's what Bill and Jennifer Petit thought - it seemed like the perfect place to raise their two daughters, Hayley and Michaela. And it was, until one night in late July 2007 when all hell broke loose. What Joshua Komisarjevsky and Steven Hayes insisted was only going to be a home burglary, escalated into a frenzy of violence and ultimately, murder. What spurred the two men to carry out such heinous acts? And could the police have done more to stop them?The Cheshire Home Invasion Murders (my blog post on this case)Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeSupport me by buying me a coffee ☕Sources for this episode:The Cheshire Murders DocumentaryConnecticut Murder Suspect’s Ex-girlfriend Speaks OutSister of Komisarjevsky Girlfriend Testifies about Concern Over RelationshipKomisarjevsky’s Religious Upbringing Detailed in CourtPetit murder suspect had long, troubled history of drugs, crimeTwo Portraits of Triple Killer, Offered to Jurors, Are at OddsDefense in Connecticut home invasion case aims to shift blameSteven Hayes, once on death row for Cheshire triple killing, resentenced to 6 life terms in prisonJoshua Komisarjevsky, convicted in Cheshire triple killing, seeks a new trialCT Supreme Court hears Cheshire killer Komisarjevsky’s argument for new trialSteven Hayes from Death Row: ‘I just snapped’ at scene of Cheshire home invasionRevisiting The Grisly Cheshire MurdersThe SurvivorConnecticut town finds hope, healing 10 years after gruesome Petit family murdersConnecticut Home Invasion Convict Is Undergoing Gender Transition in PrisonThe Petit Family FoundationMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 22 - Alone in the World: The Devastating Story of Victoria Martens
May 23 2022
Ep 22 - Alone in the World: The Devastating Story of Victoria Martens
Albuquerque, New Mexico. August 23, 2016. When Victoria Martens stepped off the school bus that Tuesday, her mother, Michelle, should have been waiting for her. But there was no sign of her, so Victoria made her own way home. It was Victoria's 10th birthday, so she was probably anticipating presents and cake, as any 10 year old would. For Victoria, however, the last year had been pretty terrible. Michelle, while she loved her daughter, wasn't very good at putting her first. She had a way of getting involved with bad people. They exploited Michelle's vulnerability and trusting nature and then they turned to Victoria. Michelle had called social services five separate times that year to report incidents involving her boyfriends.But on this particular day, Victoria's life turned into a living hell; one she did not make it out of alive. Michelle's new boyfriend, Fabian Gonzales, and his cousin, Jessica Kelley, should never have been allowed in Michelle's home, especially with her kids around. Both Kelley and Gonzalez had been in and out of prison for years. Not to mention they both had a fondness for meth.What happened to Victoria was pure evil. It's especially devastating how so many calls for help went unanswered. The Murder of Victoria Martens (my blog post on this case)Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeSupport me by buying me a coffee ☕Sources for this episode:Report: Suspect in N.M. girl's gruesome slaying should have been under supervisionDocuments reveal new details surrounding Victoria Martens' deathJustice for Victoria: Where the case stands nowOPINION | Editorial: False confessions mean we need an outside look at APD's Vigil, Martens homicide investigationsForensic psychiatrist gives insight into Michelle Martens' false statementsFour years after 10-year-old girl is killed, questions lingerUPDATE: Jessica Kelley accepts plea deal in death of Victoria MartensCYFD received 5 calls about the Martens family before Victoria was killedGrandparents open up about Victoria Martens' momBombshell plea deal, murder charges dropped in Victoria Martens' caseA shocker in Victoria Martens case » Albuquerque JournalJessica Kelley admits to setting girl on fire after she was killedThe Victoria Martens Case: 'We want to make it right for this little girl'Details emerge in search for 4th Martens suspectProsecutors: 'Gang ties are the reason Victoria Martens was killed'NM struggles with child neglect, abuse » Albuquerque JournalExpert: Martens' statements were 'contaminated' » Albuquerque JournalSuspect on trial in Victoria Martens case asks to be releasedCivil suit filed by Victoria Martens' grandparents dismissedHundreds gather to remember Victoria Martens at public memorial serviceTimeline of investigation » Albuquerque JournalBirthday memorial held for New Mexico girl who was raped, killedFabian Gonzales released from jailCommunity remembers life of Victoria MartensSuspect in Victoria Martens case to be sentenced next month | KOB 4New report: NM among nation's worst in child abuse, maltreatment - Albuquerque JournalMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 21 - If I Can't Have You: The Murder of Alice Ruggles
Apr 8 2022
Ep 21 - If I Can't Have You: The Murder of Alice Ruggles
Newcastle, England. October 12, 2016. When Alice Ruggles saw the Facebook notification appear on her phone, she was intrigued. It was a comment from a handsome stranger on a photo of her on a recent holiday. In the comment, he wrote how beautiful he thought she was. Alice sent the man, whose name was Harry Dhillon, a message introducing herself.The two began talking every day and at first, things seemed to be going well, but this didn't last long. It became increasingly clear to Alice that Harry was not the kind and thoughtful person she originally thought he was. He was cruel and spiteful. He wanted to have full control over Alice's life. When Alice realized how toxic he really was, she dumped him. But Harry was having none of it. He harassed and stalked Alice relentlessly.Alice contacted the police about Harry on several occasions. But over and over, they failed to grasp how much danger she was in.As Alice tried her best to move on, Harry spent all day, every day, convincing himself that if he couldn't have her, nobody could.Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeSources:Alice Ruggles Trust - Alice's storyDOMESTIC HOMICIDE REVIEWAlice Ruggles: Police and Army 'failed' stalking victim - BBC NewsAlice Ruggles murder: Trimaan Dhillon to serve minimum of 22 years - BBC NewsAlice Ruggles murder accused had restraining order - BBC NewsAlice Ruggles murder: Police 'failed to investigate concerns properly' - BBC NewsGateshead 'murder' victim Alice Ruggles' funeral to take place today - Chronicle LiveAlice Ruggles' brutal murder shocked the nation - so what's changed in the two years since?Alice Ruggles' family: police and army could have prevented murder | Crime | The GuardianAlice Ruggles murder: days before death she felt 'palmed off by police' | UK news | The GuardianSoldier jailed for stalking and murdering ex-girlfriend Alice Ruggles | Crime | The GuardianTwo police officers disciplined over Alice Ruggles murder caseSTALKING PROTECTION ACT 2019 EXPLANATORY NOTESIOPC Report - Miss Alice RugglesHarassment: "Police Information Notices" or "Early Harassment Notices" in England and Wales - House of Commons LibrarySTALKING AND CRIMINAL LAWMaxine's 999 CallHarry's Voicemail to AliceAlice's Call to PoliceMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 20 - The Tragic Case of Sky Metalwala
Feb 20 2022
Ep 20 - The Tragic Case of Sky Metalwala
Bellevue, Washington. November 6, 2011. Sky Metalwala's short life was tragically sad. At just 2-years-old, he had already been through a lot. His parents, Julia Biryukova and Solomon Metalwala, were going through a bitter divorce and custody battle over him and his 4-year-old sister Maile. One morning in early November 2011, Sky woke up feeling unwell, so Julia decided to take him to the doctor. On the way there, she ran out of gas. She parked on the side of the road and walked to a nearby gas station, leaving Sky in the car. When she got back to her car, Sky was nowhere to be found. When Julia told the police her story, however, it didn't add up. They had a lot of questions, but Julia refused to talk. Eventually people began to wonder whether Sky had ever been in that car at all that morning...Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeSources:Sky Metalwala’s disappearance still an active investigation after 3 yearsPolice: Missing boy not seen for 2 weeksSky Elijah Metalwala - The Charley ProjectThe Disappearance of Sky MetalwalaMissing Washington toddler Sky MetalwalaPolice say they have new information in Metalwala caseSky Metalwala Missing: Dad Thinks Boy's Mother, Julia Biryukova, May Be Involved in DisappearanceKirkland resident Solomon Metalwala granted custody of daughter, son still missingMother of missing child has new baby, declared unfit motherMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 19 - What Happened to Mitrice Richardson?
Jan 21 2022
Ep 19 - What Happened to Mitrice Richardson?
Malibu, California. September 16, 2009. Mitrice Richardson had not been herself for a while. One day in mid-September, 24-year-old Mitrice was arrested for being unable to pay her bill at an exclusive Malibu restaurant. She was taken to the Malibu/Lost Hills Sheriff's Station. Her mother, Latice, was assured by a sheriff's deputy that she would be kept in custody over night. But this was not to be; Mitrice ended up being released in the middle of the night with no purse, phone, or any personal belongings. No one truly knows what happened to Mitrice that night.Eleven months later, her partially-mummified remains were discovered at the bottom of a canyon. Mitrice's devastated family and friends were desperate for answers. The LA County Sheriff's Department, on the other hand, had no interest in finding out what happened. Time and time again, they failed Mitrice's family. To this day, her cause of death remains unknown.Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeSources:Latice’s book on Mitrice (Amazon link)LA Magazine article by Mike Kessler: What Happened To Mitrice Richardson?Malibu-area search fails to find missing woman, 24Long search for Mitrice Richardson comes to tragic endSix Years Later Mitrice Richardson’s Death Still An Unsolved MysteryMissing woman’s mother sues Los Angeles County and Sheriff’s DepartmentFriends and relatives remember Mitrice RichardsonLie and Deny: Secrecy and Suspicion Surround the Los Angeles County Sheriff's DepartmentHopes for a new investigation into Mitrice Richardson case end in disappointmentAgain, no sign of Mitrice RichardsonCoroner's official criticizes Sheriff's Department for moving Mitrice Richardson's remainsAttorney general's probe finds no evidence of wrongdoing by deputies in death of Mitrice Richardson The California Attorney General's Office Finally Agrees to Look Into the Mitrice Richardson CaseCoroner's official criticizes Sheriff's Department for moving Mitrice Richardson's remainsMore bones found in ravine where Mitrice Richardson was discoveredTentative Settlement Approved in Mitrice Richardson CaseLos Angeles County authorities exhume woman's remainsMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 18 - Fatal Fantasies: Caleb Fairley
Dec 19 2021
Ep 18 - Fatal Fantasies: Caleb Fairley
Limerick Township, Pennsylvania. September 10, 1995. Caleb Fairley was a deeply unhappy person. He was constantly taunted by his classmates and co-workers, and written off as a failure by his domineering mother. For these reasons, Caleb was happiest when he was by himself in his bedroom, playing role play games involving dragons and vampires. While this side of Caleb was largely innocent and harmless, he also had a dark, sadistic side. While working at his mother's business one Sunday in September, he unleashed his inner monster, resulting in devastating consequences.Sources:Caleb Fairley - MurderpediaCaleb Fairley - WikipediaMedical Detectives (Forensic Files) - Season 6, Ep 30: Shopping SpreeWilliam Lashner on GuiltThe Murder of Lisa and Devon Manderach – South Jersey/Philadelphia CrimeMurder Suspect Lived Life of Ridicule, FantasiesClerk Charged With Slaying Girl, Mother In Child's Clothing StoreCaleb Fairley Killed Woman, Daughter, Attorney Admits but Defense Lawyer Argues The Act Was Not Planned and Calls For A Finding of Third-Degree MurderFairley Guilty of Murder, Gets Life in Prison, Killers Detractors Give the Jury a Standing Ovation and Taunt HimFairley Gets Two Life Terms, No Parole Despite MontCo Murderer's Admission of Guilt, He's Taunted By Victims RelativesTwo-story slides and saucer swings: A wonderland like no other after 1995 murder of Limerick mother and infantMurderer Caleb Fairley continues to seek new trialPennsylvania Supreme Court Rejects Petition to Rule Death Penalty UnconstitutionalSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 16 - Herb Baumeister: Bodies in the Backyard
Oct 31 2021
Ep 16 - Herb Baumeister: Bodies in the Backyard
Happy Halloween everyone!From the outside, Herb Baumeister appeared to have it pretty good. Herb, his wife, Julie, and their three children lived in a beautiful home named Fox Hollow Farm, situated on 18 acres of land in Westfield, Indiana, a wealthy suburb north of Indianapolis. Together, Herb and Julie, ran two highly successful thrift stores in Indianapolis, through which they raised thousands for underprivileged children in the area. However, all was not as it seemed. Herb and Julie's marriage was on the rocks, due to Herb's increasingly erratic behavior at home and at work. Julie began taking the children away for months at a time, leaving Herb alone at Fox Hollow. Which is just how Herb liked it. Because when Julie was away, Herb could be his true self. The only problem was that the real Herb was a sadistic killer who prayed upon young vulnerable men, killed them, and buried them in his back yard.Sorry for the change in sound toward the end of this episode - I just moved into a new apartment and don't have a studio situation sorted...Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeSources for this episode:Video clip: Herb Baumeister interview with WISH-TVHerb Baumeister - WikipediaBaumeister: Skeletons Beyond the Closet by Joe GeringerHerbert Richard Baumeister, Serial Killer Herb Baumeister Secret Life of a Serial Killer DocumentarySerial Killer Next Door: Herb Baumeister and the Multiple Bodies Unearthed at Fox Hollow FarmPsychics and investigators believe spirits still inhabit Fox Hollow Farm, along with the current homeownersA serial killer buried bodies on his Westfield property. Now some of the land is for sale.While Julie Was AwayIndiana Businessman Is Linked To 9 Other Killings of MenUPI Focus: Sheriffs link 9 deaths to Indiana manMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 15 - Horror in Skidmore, Missouri: The Murder of Bobbie Jo Stinnett
Oct 6 2021
Ep 15 - Horror in Skidmore, Missouri: The Murder of Bobbie Jo Stinnett
Skidmore, Missouri. December 16, 2004. When 23-year-old, 8-months-pregnant Bobbie Jo Stinnett spoke to Darlene Fischer on the internet forum "Ratter Chatter", nothing struck her as particularly odd about the woman. Ratter Chatter was a forum for breeders of rat terrier dogs; Bobbie Jo and her husband Zeb showed the dogs and bred them out of their northwest Missouri home. Darlene said she was interested in adopting one her new puppies.Bobbie Jo was happy to accommodate Darlene, and they arranged to meet at Bobbie Jo's home in Skidmore. When it got to 2:30pm on Dec. 16, the doorbell rang, as Bobbie Jo expected. But when she answered the door, it wasn't Darlene Fischer at all, but rather, another woman who Bobbie Jo knew from the Ratter Chatter forum, Lisa Montgomery. Bobbie Jo would quickly find out that the woman wasn't interested in a dog at all. She wanted something that Bobbie Jo would not give her, but this did not stop her going to extreme lengths to take it.Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeSources for this episode:Lisa Montgomery: Looking for answers in the life of a killerMurder in the Heartland – M. William PhelpsFetus Survives Killing of MotherHusband thought stolen baby was hisFBI catches killer who hacked baby from mother's wombSuspect's friends wonder if they should've seen signsSuspect Wanted A Baby Desperately, Acquaintances SayDefendant Accused of Faking PregnanciesLisa Montgomery gets death penalty for killing pregnant womanFather of Kidnapped Baby Girl Voices Thanks for Safe ReturnHundreds turn out to mourn slain pregnant womanU.S. to carry out first federal execution of a woman in seven decadesLisa Montgomery, 1st woman to face federal execution in decades: lawyers have Covid, seek delayJudge delays execution of only woman on U.S. death rowThe Case of Lisa MontgomeryDeath row: the lawyer who keeps losing‘A lifetime of torture’: the story of the woman Trump is rushing to executeA federal judge has granted a stay of execution for the only woman on federal death row pending a competence hearingFederal government executes the first woman in nearly 70 yearsMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 14 - American Psychopath: The Murder of Kenia Monge
Sep 18 2021
Ep 14 - American Psychopath: The Murder of Kenia Monge
Denver, Colorado. April 1, 2011."The question for law enforcement is not, 'Is he capable of murder?' but, 'How many people he might have killed. For sure, he's a sociopath, a psychopath and an anti-social personality." - Clint Van Zandt, 25-year veteran Special Agent with the FBI and Behavioral Analyst.19-year-old Kenia Monge was stuck. She had been out clubbing with her friends and somehow ended up outside with no purse, keys, or phone. She had been drinking heavily, but now the alcohol was wearing off and she just wanted to get home. So when a man pulled up in his van and offered her a ride, she gratefully accepted.But when Kenia wasn't home the next morning, and her family couldn't get in touch with her, they instantly knew something was wrong. Then, a message came through on Kenia's phone from none other than Mr Nice Guy. But as you probably guessed, he wasn't such a nice guy after all.Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeSources for this episode:Who Was Kenia Monge? | Criminal Confessions Highlights | OxygenSurveillance Footage of Travis ForbesKenia Monge Disappears From Denver Nightclub, Cops Call Scenario 'Nightmare'Woman Survives Attack by Killer Who Stored Body in FreezerTravis Forbes: Kenia Monge's parents want answers from man charged in Lydia Tillman caseTravis Forbes pleads guilty to Kenia Monge murder, will spend rest of life behind bars (24)Man pleads guilty to murder of missing Denver teenTravis Forbes Confesses To Strangling Kenia Monge, Hiding Body In Freezer | Crime NewsSuspect in murder of Kenia Monge offered interview in exchange for moneyPolice Investigation Reveals Details In Missing Woman CaseKerry Humphrey pleads guilty to lying for Travis Forbes, Kenia Monge's murdererColorado killer Travis Forbes played cat-and-mouse game with police for monthsWoman arrested in connection to Kenia Monge murder caseA criminal timeline of Travis Forbes, admitted killer of 19-year-old Kenia MongeTravis Forbes, self-described suspect in Kenia Monge case, busted in Texas for car theftForbes Pleads Guilty In Fort Collins, Says 'I'm Evil'Woman Sentenced To Jail In Missing Teen CaseWhere Is Lydia Tillman TodayGriego: Daughter, Kenia Monge, was too young to need a final resting placeFamily Of Murdered Aurora Teen Lays Her To RestClinton R. Van Zandt BioProfiler: Confessed murderer may have killed othersMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 13 - Deadly Delusions: The Murder of Sophie Lionnet
Sep 8 2021
Ep 13 - Deadly Delusions: The Murder of Sophie Lionnet
London, England. September 20, 2017. Ouissem Medouni and Sabrina Kouider were not particularly well-liked by their neighbours on Wimbledon Park Road. They were inconsiderate, often leaving trash outside of their home for days and blocking their neighbours' driveways with their expensive cars. But while their antics could be irritating, they weren't that big of a deal. The couple tended to keep to themselves. One day in mid-September 2017, however, they were up to something that their neighbors just couldn't ignore. They had built a bonfire that was raging out of control, and it smelled terrible. Firefighters soon arrived at the scene, but no one could have prepared them for the horrifying discovery they would make.Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeBuy Me A Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/talkmurderSources for this episode:Folie à deux and delusional disorder by proxy in a familySophie Lionnet: The 'toxic' couple who murdered their au pairSophie Lionnet murder: Kouider was cruel, beguiling fantasist who drew men into deadly spiralFirst pictures of garden where murdered nanny's body was burned on bonfireAccused ‘shrugged off’ discovery of French nanny’s remains on bonfireBoyzone founder: I ‘never ever’ knew murdered French nannySabrina Kouider trial: Boyzone founder Mark Walton tells of 'turbulent' relationship with woman accused of nanny murder | London Evening StandardA London couple’s shared delusions led to the torture and death of French au pairSophie Lionnet death: Nanny 'could have drowned in bath'Sophie Lionnet: Couple 'murdered French nanny then burned body'Sophie Lionnet: Couple jailed for French au pair murderSophie Lionnet: Au pair killer writes apology letterSophie Lionnet: French au pair murderers lose appealMurdered nanny was a 'rock' to boys she looked afterObsession with former Boyzone member led to couple murdering nanny and attempting to burn her bodyLondon couple who murdered nanny over Boyzone obsession jailed for life'She hated suffering, it breaks my heart she was abused to the end'Couple jailed for life for murdering French nanny Sophie Lionnet over bizarre Boyzone obsessionNanny verdict: Ouissem Medouni was 'weak, submissive and insular'Sophie Lionnet murder: Tortured French nanny's parents say killers Sabrina Kouider and Ouissem Medouni should be 'burned at the stake'Affaire Sophie Lionnet : les obsèques de la jeune femme seront célébrées le 6 juin à SensCouple obsessed with Boyzone member guilty of killing French nannyMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 11 - Lauren Giddings: Murder in Barrister's Hall
Aug 23 2021
Ep 11 - Lauren Giddings: Murder in Barrister's Hall
Macon, Georgia. June 26, 2011. Lauren Giddings had just completed her law degree at Mercer University in Macon, Georgia. All she had to do was pass the bar exam and she would be fully qualified to practice law. Her plan was to move in with her boyfriend, David, in Atlanta, and start her career. But then Lauren disappeared without a trace. After not hearing from her for several days, her friends and family began to worry and contacted the police in Macon to report her missing. Also seemingly very concerned about Lauren's whereabouts was her neighbor and fellow law graduate, Stephen McDaniel...Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeBuy Me A Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/talkmurderAudio clips from episode:Stephen's media interviewStephen McDaniel's police interview Sources for this episode:The Plot Thickens: Say Hello to ‘Hacksaw McDaniel’Hacksaw McDaniel Accused of Child Pornography PossessionStephen McDaniel’s Ex-Roommate Speaks: Say Hello to Thad MoneyA Creepy New Claim About Stephen McDaniel in the Lauren Giddings Murder CaseMcDaniel's first media interviewMd. family's journey into heartacheLauren Giddings and the man whose heart she wonLauren Giddings' boyfriend talks about relationship, a future disruptedLauren Giddings Obituary - Macon, GAHundreds Attend Funeral For Md. Woman Slain In GeorgiaFamily remembers Lauren GiddingsThe Lauren Teresa Giddings Scholarship Fund - Giving to Agnes Scott CollegeScholarship honors slain Mercer Law student Lauren Giddings5 years after slaying, reporters recall killer, heartbreakBoyfriend of slain Macon woman describes last emailA closer look at Stephen McDaniel, the man accused in Lauren Giddings' killing'Death Smell' From Nearby Trash Can Leads To Body Of Missing WomanStephen McDaniel case file released | 13wmaz.comGeorgia man Stephen McDaniel pleads guilty to strangling, dismembering Lauren GiddingsInvestigators Reveal Evidence In Law Grad KillingLauren Giddings murder | Stephen McDaniel trial | abc10.comGeorgia man pleads guilty, sentenced to life in murder of North Laurel's GiddingsGeorgia law student accused of killing and dismembering classmate, Lauren GiddingsUPDATE: Stephen McDaniel’s former attorney believed he was innocent until his confessionThe murder of Lauren Giddings; upcoming trial looms for alleged killerStephen McDaniel pleads guilty to Lauren Giddings murder; sentenced to life in prisonDA: McDaniel Visited Websites About Dismemberment, CannibalismThe Lauren Giddings murder: five years laterMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 10 - When a Stranger Calls: The Murders of Shari Smith and Debra Helmick
Aug 14 2021
Ep 10 - When a Stranger Calls: The Murders of Shari Smith and Debra Helmick
Lexington, South Carolina. May 31, 1985. 17-year-old Shari Smith was excited for the future. In just a few days, she would set off on a cruise with her friends to celebrate the end of their high school years. After that, she had her entire life ahead of her. Everything came to a tragic end, however, when Shari was snatched from outside her home in broad daylight by a sadistic predator, Larry Gene Bell. For 28 days, the Midlands region of South Carolina was terrorized by Bell, who callously taunted Shari's family on the phone. Then, as the FBI expected he would if he wasn't apprehended, he snatched another girl. His second victim was 9-year-old Debra May Helmick. By the time Bell was apprehended, he had taken two young lives and shattered a community, leaving scars that would never fully heal.Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeBuy Me A Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/talkmurderSources for this episode:Larry Gene Bell - WikipediaLarry Gene Bell - MurderpediaForensic Files - Last WillMindhunter: Inside the FBI's Elite Serial Crime Unit - John Douglas and Mark OlshakerPalmetto Predators - Mark R. JonesMurder in the Midlands: Larry Gene Bell and the 28 Days of Terror that Shook South CarolinaSouth Carolina serial killer forced girl to write a farewell note and tormented his victims' families after sick spree in mid-80sIn first interview since indictment, James Metts expresses regretMidlands killer taunted victim's family in phone calls. This TV show tells the storyKeep on believing: Dawn Smith Jordan on hope after tragedyDenise Newsom PorchPolice: We may never find missing womanNewspaper articles about Sandee Cornett - here and hereMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 9 - Syko Sam: Quadruple Homicide in Farmville, VA
Aug 4 2021
Ep 9 - Syko Sam: Quadruple Homicide in Farmville, VA
Farmville, Virginia. September 12, 2009. Emma Niederbrock was very excited to attend "Strictly for the Wicked", a music festival in Southgate, Michigan. The lineup for the festival included many of her favorite horrorcore rappers. She and her best friend, Melanie Wells, had gone to several similar events in the past and always enjoyed themselves. But this time was even more exciting, as Emma would be meeting Sam McCroskey (an amateur horrorcore rapper who went by "Syko Sam") in-person for the first time. The two had been talking online and on the phone for about a year at this point. Sam viewed Emma as his girlfriend, even though they had never met face-to-face. But when Emma finally set eyes on Sam in the flesh, she was seriously underwhelmed. Sam did not take the rejection well at all.Find my blog post for this episode here.Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeBuy Me A Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/talkmurderSources for this episode:Geto Boys - AssassinsFarmville MurdersRichard McCROSKEYHorrorcoreRapper charged in Va. slayingQuadruple-murder suspect’s sister has received death threats over Virginia slayingsHorrorcore Rapper Accused of Killing 4 in Virginia‘Horrorcore’ rap drew together suspect, victims'Syko Sam' Allegedly Argued With Girlfriend'Horrorcore' singer suspected in slayingsThe Aspiring Death Metal Rapper Who Couldn’t Lose His “Girlfriend”McCroskey pleads guilty to Farmville murders, gets life in prisonMcCroskey Had Spoken with Police Before ArrestPeople in Farmville react to Richard McCroskey guilty pleaGruesome Details Revealed in “Syko Sam” KillingsMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 8 - The Turpin Family's House of Horrors
Jul 16 2021
Ep 8 - The Turpin Family's House of Horrors
Perris, California. January 14, 2018. Few cases are as chilling as that of the Turpin family. Regardless of where you live, you likely remember this story dominating national, and even international news, in January 2018. The photos splashed across our television screens were designed to project an image of a big, happy family. But something just feels off about the photos, something you can’t immediately put your finger on. The reality could not have been further from what parents David and Louise Turpin, were attempting to convey in those photos. When the story broke of what was really going on behind closed doors in their southern California home, those who got the impression that something just wasn’t quite right had their feelings confirmed. It was all a charade, put on to mask the reality of how depraved human beings can be. While this case is not one of murder, I would certainly classify it as true crime.Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeBuy Me A Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/talkmurderI highly recommend the novel Girl A by Abigail Dean, which is loosely based on this case.Episode sources:Turpin case - WikipediaLouise Turpin's Sister Talks Childhood Before House of Horrors | PEOPLE.comHouse of Horrors Aunt Opens Up About Louise Turpin's PastCalifornia couple accused of torturing their children had North Texas tiesInside the Texas home where the malnourished, shackled siblings lived over 18 years agoTurpin case: Shackled California siblings 'victims of torture'Turpin: Shackled siblings found in Perris, California homeTurpin case: California couple deny torturing 'shackled siblings'California family: Parents charged after children found shackled13 captive siblings forced to shower once a year, strangled, subject to frequent beatings: Prosecutor13 siblings, some shackled and malnourished, rescued from California houseBefore police rescued their 13 children, the two parents had a history of strange behavior, family and neighbors sayAunts of 13 captive children reveal years of secrecy and concernsAirfares, fancy clothes and lavish meals: How the Turpins kept their evil secretCalifornia torture house: Louise Turpin's sister said sibling experimented with religion, sexGrandparents say 'God called' on Perris couple to have so many childrenDavid and Louise Turpin case: A timeline of parental torture and abusePerris parents, accused of torturing 13 kids, dreamed of a reality show about their family, reports sayDavid Turpin's Sister-in-Law Says He Would Watch Her in the Shower, Wouldn't Let Her Contact KidsSouthern California torture case: Outline of accusations against Turpin parentsCaptive teen's chilling 911 call details parents' alleged torture: 'My two little sisters right now are chained up''I've never been out': Chilling 911 call reveals abuse in Turpin familyTurpin siblings: Judge bars parents from contacting 13 children in torture caseTurpin parents sentenced to life in prison for torturing childrenTurpin children speak out as parents are sentenced in torture case: 'I'm taking my life back'Eldest Turpin Children Discharged from Hospital in What Attorney Describes as 'Birth Into Real World'Turpin children 'working toward forgiveness' of parents in California torture caseCan anyone open a school at home in California?California torture case raises questions about home school regulationThe Twisted Psychology Behind the Turpin Family CaseAs a forensic psychologist, this is why I think the Turpins may have held their children captiveInside Turpin family's Disney trips: kids wore same outfits each time | World | News | Express.co.ukDavid Turpin charged with 8 counts of perjuryTurpin trial: Couple jailed for life for 'inhuman' child abuseThe Quiverfull: The evangelical Christians opposed to contraceptionMusic from Purple Planet MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 7 - The Murders of Arlis Perry, Leslie Perlov and Janet Taylor
Jul 5 2021
Ep 7 - The Murders of Arlis Perry, Leslie Perlov and Janet Taylor
Stanford, California. October 13, 1974. There weren't many places in Stanford that Arlis Perry felt at home. She had just moved from Bismarck, North Dakota, with her new husband, Bruce Perry, who was studying at Stanford. The iconic Stanford Memorial Church, however, was Arlis's safe place. It was somewhere she could go whenever she was feeling lonely or homesick. Naturally, it was where she went on the night of October 12, 1974, after an argument with Bruce. Nobody could have foreseen the horrors Arlis would endure that night in the place she felt most at peace. Was there a Satanic motivation behind Arlis's murder? Or was she just in the wrong place at the wrong time?Stanford was no stranger to brutal slayings of young women. This episode will also look at the murders of Leslie Perlov and Janet Taylor, who were murdered in 1973 and 1974, respectively. Their murders, like Arlis's, would go unsolved for decades.Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeBuy Me A Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/talkmurderSourcesRecent John Getreu article: Alleged serial killer's trial delayed while defense seeks state Supreme Court decision on DNA evidenceArlis PerryMurder of Arlis PerryStanford Student's Wife Found Slain In Church40 years later, satanic reference still tied to Stanford murderPast detectives on Stanford chapel slaying reflect on case’s endingSheriff investigating whether Stanford watchman linked to other campus murdersSuspect In 1974 Ritualistic Stanford Chapel Murder Kills Himself As Police Close InSheriff: Grisly 1974 Stanford murder solved | News | Palo Alto Online |Stanford cold case: Will DNA solve murder of David Levine?Suspect in 1974 Stanford killing was guard who found bodyLeslie PerlovAlleged serial killer pleads not guilty in 1973 murder caseSister of slain Stanford grad 'grateful' 1973 case solvedDNA leads to arrest in 1973 Palo Alto cold caseRaped 45 years ago, woman returns to bring attacker to justice — for other woman's murderJanet TaylorVictim's green pants to be key piece of evidence in serial-killer caseArrest in 1970s cold-case murder points to serial killerMurderer of former athletic director's daughter identified after 45 yearsAlleged serial killer lands in hospital before trialAccused serial killer's trial set for JanuaryMan accused of 1974 cold-case killing near Stanford campus pleads not guiltyPolice think they've solved the long-cold murder of Stanford football coach's daughterOthersStanford Memorial ChurchAlec JeffreysMemChu through the yearsJohn GetreuDavid BerkowitzMusic for this episode: https://www.purple-planet.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Ep 6 - Grant Amato, Family Annihilator
Jun 26 2021
Ep 6 - Grant Amato, Family Annihilator
Chuluota, Florida. January 25, 2019. When Cody Amato did not turn up for his shift at Orlando Regional Medical Center, his co-workers were worried. Cody had not missed a shift in the last five years. They called the police, asking if an officer could perform a welfare check at the Amato home. When the police arrived, the house appeared silent. No one came to the door when they knocked, so they forced their way inside. In the house, they found the deceased bodies of 61-year-old Margaret, 59-year-old Chad and and 31-year-old Cody.29-year-old Grant Amato, Chad and Margaret's youngest son, who also lived in the house, was nowhere to be found.Find my blog post on this case here.Instagram: @talkmurderwithmeFacebook: @talkmurrderwithmeBuy Me A Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/talkmurderSources for this episode:Obsession, money, lies tore Grant Amato’s family apart. A jury will decide whether he killed themPolice: Man accused of killing family over $200,000, Bulgarian call girl, also stole hospital drugsMan accused of killing parents, brother admits concocting false life in letter: 'I hate myself for what I did'Worried co-workers led to slain family's discovery, 911 calls showGrant Amato charged with murdering his family over $200,000 obsession with Bulgarian 'cam girl'Grant Amato trial: Family was desperate to help before killings, sole surviving sibling testifiesGrant Amato trial: Jurors see Bulgarian webcam model at center of triple-homicide caseExpert: 3 guns recovered from Seminole County home, none used in the killings of Amato familyGrant Amato's brother testifies for prosecution in death penalty caseJurors see interview with Grant Amato day after family found slain in Chuluota homeRecords provide glimpse into relationship between webcam model, Chuluota man accused of killing his familyFL v. Amato: The Defense's CaseGrant Amato found guilty of killing mother, father and brotherGrant Amato gets life for killing parents, brother over Bulgarian webcam modelVideo: Grant Amato begs Bulgarian cam girl to send him videos of herPolygonal rifling explanationMusic for this episode: https://www.purple-planet.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-murder-with-me/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy