Dr. Alfred Tatum brings to light that perhaps our bar is set too low, specifically for Black boys. Alfred is passionate and very experienced in regards to literacy development, and his mission to teach and raise intellectuals is inspiring. His book, Teaching Black Boys in the Elementary Grades, is dense and packed with helpful instructional strategies.

If you are interested in learning more and developing yourself as a leader and don’t know Craig Dowden, you must. His work and perspective are incredibly valuable and unique. Many writers, speakers, and consultants in the leadership space focus on systems and structures of productivity. Craig’s focus aligns squarely with the internal and behavioral health of leaders themselves. His research and advice are pragmatic and meaningful. He and Jeff discuss his book, A Time to Lead: Mastering Yourself…So You Can Master Your World. It’s a must-read, and this is a must-listen. Enjoy!

We were drawn to Starr's book, 'From Teacher to Leader: Finding Your Way as a First-Time Leader Without Losing Your Mind'. This challenging transition, described in even the title, is more relevant today than it ever has been. Starr Sackstein offers her very honest and pragmatic reflections and advice in this engaging conversation.

For some leaders and educators, AI is exciting and full of potential. For others, it's scary and intimidating. This being the case, the best strategy is to tap the wisdom of someone like Pat Yongpradit, the Chief Academic Officer for Code.org and leader of TeachAI. Listeners of Leader Chat will appreciate his candor and balanced perspective. AI resources and influence will only continue to grow, so learning from experts like Pat is extremely valuable.

Heath Morrison is the CEO of Teachers of Tomorrow, a very important and vital organization that is fortunate to be led by someone with vast experience who cares deeply about students and teachers. Heath and Jeff delve into the relevant and critical topic of teacher shortages—what is and what is to come. Their discussion analyzed the current status and conditions impacting the problem and delves into brainstorming future solutions. Every educational leader should listen to this!

PJ Caposey is impressive! He is an award winning and working superintendent. His story of overcoming personal challenges is motivating, and he also supports leaders across the country as he coaches and speaks to the themes he has written about in his several published books. He and Jeff delve into 'Cracking the Coaching Code', one of his books and Time Management issues, which he has also written about. PJ and Jeff get along GREAT- enjoy their conversation!

Margaret Wheatley is a deep thinker and clearly has an incredible background working with leaders around the world. She has written extensively on education and leadership, and her work is personal and pushes others to take a close look at themselves. The conversation between Jeff and Margaret was different than other Leader Chats, in a good way. Enjoy this discussion as they talk about her book, Who Do We Choose To Be: Facing Reality, Claiming Leadership, & Restoring Sanity.

David Esmie is not an educator by trade. Rather, guided by his own experiences in the finance industry, he has chosen to dedicate himself to influencing typically underrepresented youth to pursue careers in finance. He and Jeff are friends, and our listeners will appreciate them comparing notes and talking strategy on how David is impacting future financiers.

Imagine an educational leader who has empathy for the challenges faced in the classroom, one who is able to create systems focused on the learner and the teacher. Also, think of a leader who embraces innovation and is able to create a culture that finds a balance of autonomy and fidelity for the organization. This person is Devin Vodicka! In this Leader Chat, he and Jeff engage in a conversation about what ‘Learner-Centered Leadership’ really is and why it’s needed.

AJ Crabill has been on a Leader Chat before, but based on the quality of our last conversation with him, and his new book, we simply had to have him back. AJ’s understanding of school board governance is beyond reproach. His new book, ‘Great on Their Behalf’, is a must read for any school or district leader. School boards have the potential to focus their efforts on students, and if they shed the temptation to focus on adult issues, great things can happen.

Anne Erwin and Jeff clearly go way back. She was a principal working with him when he was a superintendent in Oregon. Anne joined us because she was not an ordinary principal. She turned around the high school in a very unique way and leaned on a community process and bold vision that did in fact come to fruition. Anne is brutally honest, focused, and passionate about what schools, communities, and especially students are capable of.

Mike Rutherford supports teachers and leaders all over the country. His philosophy supports the art, creativity, and capacity of educators. As you listen to this Leader Chat, you will notice that Mike has his finger on the pulse of what was, is, and will be in schools. His perspective and advice for leaders is something we recommend you listen carefully to.

We were so thankful Jimmy Casas was able to join us in person for this Leader Chat. Jimmy and his work supporting leaders is extremely unique. His advice specific to culture is not just philosophical, it’s pragmatic. He provides leaders with protocols and processes. This Leader Chat is informative, but also inspiring. You will love Jimmy Casas!

We are big fans of Dr Tim Elmore. This is his second Leader Chat. Last time we discussed his impressive book, Eight Paradoxes of Great Leadership. We invited him back to talk through his newest book, A New Kind of Diversity. His research and insights are invaluable for us as leaders. Here, he and Jeff talk through strategies on how to recognize the challenges of generational diversity in the workplace and leverage them into opportunities. It’s an awesome discussion.

What is one of the key ingredients for the health of any organization that starts with a ’T’? Likely you guessed it- its TRUST. In a school district, how is trust established between superintendents and principals? That’s what we asked Dr. Justin Benna, a professor in North Dakota who has studied and written on this very topic. Lean in, listen and enjoy!

If one is truly a ‘student of the game’ when it comes to studying and developing their own leadership skills, they likely have read John C. Maxwell’s work. If not, they should. John C. Maxwell is known as the #1 leadership author in the world. In this inspirational Leader Chat, he shares his wisdom, passion, and empathy with us. He is in our corner, and we are thrilled to be working with and learning from him. We can’t wait for him to join us in person during our Leadership Circle Summit in October!

Universal Design for Learning, (UDL) can sometimes be misunderstood or potentially overwhelm teachers and leaders. Not if they listen to or read the work of Katie Novak. She is a teacher at heart and has rich leadership experience. She makes UDL pragmatic and accessible. This Leader Chat episode is incredible!

There are very few topics in education as relevant today as Social and Emotional Health, for students and adults. There is also not any organization as knowledgeable on this topic as the Collaborative for Social and Emotional Learning. The CEO of CASEL, Dr. Aaliyah Samuel, joined us in this Leader Chat. It was a phenomenal and enlightening discussion.

As educational leaders, we all want and need to find peace and satisfaction within the context of the challenging times and work we are experiencing. It’s easier said than done. Kim Strobel provides some insightful and pragmatic advice to us, helping us to keep our head up and moving forward.

In this episode, Jeff engages with Dr. Roger Cleveland about the importance and challenge of embracing cultural proficiency as educators. It’s a political topic, but as you listen, maybe they uncover why it does not have to be. If we have strategies to meet the needs of students, with the awareness that kids come from different backgrounds, experiences, and skill sets and it’s our job to love and teach them all.