Oct 16 2024
Confronting Modern Torah Movements - A Chat with Andrew Schumacher
Send us a textApologist and Christian thinker Andrew Schumacher recently joined me for a wide-ranging conversation. Of course, we discussed the recent controversies over the question "Are animal sacrifices, still required to atone for sin?" But also how to approach our Torah-keeping friends: Is there a path to unity? What makes something a false gospel? What is the theological range of the various strains of Torahism: Hebrew Roots, Pronomian, Torah-observant, Torah keepers, etc. Enjoy!Important Retraction: I have officially and publicly retracted my accusation that the “Torah-keeping” position on future sin sacrifices is a false gospel. I’ve come to realize that most Torah-keeping teachers aren’t claiming that salvation hangs on the end times sin sacrifices, and therefore their position is technically not a false gospel; it’s not an alternate way to be saved. In hindsight, I was wrong and uncharitable in categorizing it that way, and I apologize to anyone who felt maligned. My goal is always to offer an accurate and fair defense of biblical Christianity, and I overreached in my categorization of this issue. I maintain that the idea of future sin sacrifices contradicts the NT (Heb. 10:18) and impugns the sufficiency of Christ’s “once for all” sacrifice (Rom. 6:10, Heb. 7:27, 9:12, 9:26, 10:10), which covered all sin for all time. However, that idea does not rise to the level of a false gospel. I’ve chosen not to take down this video because I still believe it to be a biblical and necessary part of this conversation, and I stand by everything it teaches and exposes, with the sole exception of the “false gospel” classification. Blessings,Prof. SolbergAndrew's LinksYouTube Beginning of Wisdom BlogAndrew's Caleb Hegg Article Defending the Biblical Roots of ChristianityOur websiteOur YouTube ChannelProf. Solberg's BlogSupport our Ministry (Thank you!)Chapters00:00 Introduction: Meet Andrew01:33 The Spectrum of Torah-keeping Beliefs05:29 The Range of Views on the Sacrifices09:54 Where is the line for a False Gospel?21:49 Steelman Arguments25:11 The Hebrew Roots Motivation26:59 Biases and Changing Our Minds32:57 The Faux Simplicity of Torahism34:30 The Good & Bad of Hebrew Roots39:15 The Torah Under Christ 52:35 Mischaracterizations53:59 Is There A Path to Unity?