Astrologer and magician Hawk Grubb joins host Jenn Zahrt from Portland, Oregon in a unique not-books book chat! Set your books aside (mostly), and tune in for the punk episode, including: astrology as a harmonizing framework; divination and how music helps absorb star stuff; getting the thinking brain out of the way; learning about others via your own natal chat; being a patron versus being a participant; books as ossified conversations; the friendship lineage; learning together, not top-down; plant alchemy; stories of Apollo and Asclepius; fixed stars; and the Orphic Hymns. Plus: beautiful dandelions, the Myth of Er, and… remember MySpace??     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded May 2024):   00:31 – Hawk Grubb is a magician, diarist, and professional astrologer/magical mentor living in the Pacific Northwest. In another life you’d have found them delivering prophecy, bent over the cracks in the cave floor at Pytho. In this life, you can find them doing the same thing, but like, on the computer.   01:07 – How did Hawk get into astrology? Magic, music, and tarot helped on that front; they found astrology a great framework for understanding reality. But also, Hawk lived near Adam Elenbaas and his future wife Ashley’s yoga studio and wound up studying with Adam! (Listen to Adam in Episode 25, Adam Elenbaas: On Daily Practice, Devotion, Divination, & Donation.)   10:26 – Hawk shares how to get into astrology as a newbie and Chris Brennan’s advice to them back in the day. Oh, and if you have a 9th house Leo Moon, you’re in good company!   15:04 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   15:51 – Hawk explains “the friendship lineage,” and the beauty of teaching and learning while communing with others. Less like a ladder and more like a web – woot!   20:40 – Book alert! Yep, the duo snuck a few titles into this no-book book talk: both The Symposium and The Republic by Plato get a mention, as does Utopia by Sir Thomas More.   22:41 – Tune in to hear about plant alchemy! (And check out Jenn’s dandelion article, Controversy and Conversion: Astrological Considerations for Potent Herbal Workings.)   25:49 – Hawk’s shares a story of Apollo!   29:05 – Bernadette Brady’s fixed star tip, and a brief trip to the Orphic Hymns.   36:16 – Find Hawk at their website: hawkstrology.com. On Instagram you can find them: @hawkstrology.   34:49 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer, author, and podcaster Issachar Bey joins host Jenn Zahrt from San Antonio, Texas to chat books and more! This wide-ranging conversation brings you within orb of oodles of star stuff, including: Uranian astrology; how the glyphs have meaning; the Trans-Neptunian “planets”; geodetic astrology, relocated charts, and making your Jupiter line come to you; significators and dispositorship; the cheat code to life; blending Sabian symbols with various levels of progression; holographic transits and pattern returns; the idea of mapping out the degree-symbol systems; astro-theology; and using the Capricorn ingress. All that, plus: coming out of the star closet, using astrology to win, and… can we bring a Kindle and a charger to the deserted island?? Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded May 2024):   00:31 – Issachar Bey is the founder and spiritual director of the Temple of Enlightenment International Spiritual Center. The author of four books, Issachar is also a minister, life strategist, and radio and podcast host. Issachar has spent over 20 years advising people around the world with consultations personally designed to assist them in creating their own reality using his Manifestation Methodology. The Temple of Enlightenment International Spiritual Center is a global community dedicated to teaching New Thought Ageless Wisdom – recognizing, honoring, and nurturing the dignity and uniqueness of all people.   06:12 – Issachar’s first astrology book was recommended by his teacher: Alan Oken's Complete Astrology: The Classic Guide to Modern Astrology. This one is like a Bible to Issachar; he loves the way Oken breaks everything down from A to Z. And amazingly, both Jenn and Issachar took parallel tracks and were studying the same book in the late 1990s! (To hear Jenn’s episode, check out Episode 39, Jenn Zahrt: For the Love of Astrology (Books)!) The duo also takes a quick side trip to a great beginner book: The Only Way to Learn Astrology by Joan McEvers and Marion March.   08:03 – If Issachar were stranded on a deserted island, which texts would he bring? His first pick is The Language of Uranian Astrology by Roger A. Jacobson. This one keeps him sharp, and new readings always bring new insights!   11:05 – The second title that Issachar would bring is Geodetic Astrology for Relocating and World Affairs by Chris McRae. He finds this one phenomenal, and loves the world maps. (Nick Campion’s The Book of World Horoscopes also gets a mention!)   15:51 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   16:37 – Issachar’s third selection is volume 21 in Jean-Baptiste Morin’s series, Astrologia Gallica: The Morinus System of Horoscope Interpretation, which has been translated many times. The way that Morin breaks down a chart and how to interpret it is incredibly helpful. (The Rules of Chart Interpretation by Rod Suskin also gets a nod by Jenn here, as it’s based on Morin’s work.)   20:50 – Issachar has many runners-up, including: Christian Astrology by William Lilly, Vocations: The New Midheaven Extension Process by Noel Tyl, the Dial Detective by Maria Kay Simms, and Abu Ma'shar Al-Balkhi’s Persian Nativities IV: On the Revolutions of the Years of Nativities (translated by Benjamin Dykes). Issachar also likes anything by Alphee Lavoie, Anthony Louis, Stephen Arroyo, or Robert Blaschke. And the casino story highlighting Winning!! Zodiacal Timing by Joyce Wehrman was a winner!   30:40 – Find Issachar on Instagram @IssacharBey, or on YouTube @AstroCommission2024. And check out The Astrological Commission Podcast wherever you listen!   34:49 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and author Ko Hashiguchi joins host Jenn Zahrt from Tacoma, Washington, sharing his expertise in Chinese astrology along with a mini lesson on the Four Pillars! Ko also offers a unique perspective on desert island books, as the two cover lots of ground: Taoism philosophy; Plato’s concept of same and other; the work of Robert Schmidt and Eudoxus of Cnidus; which planets represent a transcendental Sun, Moon, and Mercury; 518,400 ways to combine a solar year, month, day, and hour; why Western zodiac signs and Chinese animals should be regarded as the same; the five Chinese elements; the time lord system in Jyotish astrology; Ptolemy’s Ages of Man; why physical books will never be obsolete; and the spoken word as the living word. Plus: He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, a second childhood, and the beauty of turning 60!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded April 2024):   00:31 – Ko Hashiguchi has been studying Chinese astrology since 1986, and Western astrology since 1992. Ko programs his own research software, runs the YouTube channel Radical Skies, and has animation credits in the Disney features “Hercules” and “Tarzan.” Ko has lectured at the 2002 UAC and the 2003 NORWAC conferences. Ko has two gender identities: Ko is he/him, and Francine Gee is she/her.   03:19 – Ko’s first astrology book was The Way to Chinese Astrology: The Four Pillars of Destiny by Jean-Michel Huon de Kermadec and translated by Derek Poulsen. At first, Ko thought astrology was nonsense! But then he entered the world of Chinese astrology and began shifting his view.   05:11 – If Ko were stranded on Obstruction Island (in San Juan County, Washington), he’d bring a stack of spiral notebooks and write his own texts! The first one he’d tackle would be an extension of Schmidt’s interpretation of Eudoxus.   10:17 – For Ko’s second writing assignment, he’d examine the Four Pillars in Chinese astrology. Specifically, this book would be full of examples of famous people and how the Four Pillars explain why people behave the way they do.   12:16 – Tune in for a mini-lesson on the Four Pillars!   15:07 – Next, Ko would put pen to paper and turn the Ptolemaic Ages of Man into a four-level timelord system!   16:48 – Join the CAELi Institute to attend the next Significant Sources Salon hosted by Dr. James Dotson! Last week we had a blast discussing Ficino’s Three books on Life. Next month we get into medical astrology with Joseph Blagrave’s Astrological Practice of Physick.   19:51 – Ko has a fourth book idea, too! Referencing his previously mentioned idea about philosophically extending the planets, Ko’s next text would add a twist, exploring how science doesn’t override history, morality/religion, philosophy, or astrology. (And check out Ko’s two books coming out through Revelore Press – Jenn’s publishing company – in July 2024!)   23:12 – For beginners, Ko recommends: listening to the lectures of Robert Schmidt; diving into the Jyotish astrological tome Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra (the Girish Chand Sharma edition); and – for learning Chinese astrology – reading Ko’s own upcoming instructional textbook on the Four Pillars.   24:49 – Find Ko on his YouTube channel: Radical Skies. And Francine (Ko’s feminine alter ego) will also be at NORWAC in May 2024, so say hello!   26:07 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and teacher Sarah L’Hrar joins host Jenn Zahrt from Montreal, Québec in Canada to cover books, imaginary BFF authors, and more! Tune in to hear all about: astral themes and evolutionary possibility; the roots of karmic astrology; Mars-ing all over someone (oops!); “minor” aspects; humanistic astrology; astrological osmosis and receiving authors’ personality in textual form; words as beautiful access points to something more; the perfect birth chart aspect for an astrologer; Kabbalistic astrology; the coolest Middle Ages rock-and-roll astro dude; the beans and rice of books!; and the Yod formation. Plus: know thyself (then duck!), the Nixon administration, and falling in friendship!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded April 2024):   00:31 – Sarah L’Hrar is a consulting astrologer, teacher, and counselor who specializes in modern humanistic and psychological astrology. She is a master mentor at Debra Silverman’s Applied Astrology School, as well as the Global Director for ISAR (the International Society for Astrological Research) in Canada. Her nickname “Astro Auntie” was coined by her students and clients as a nod to her supportive, compassionate, and straightforward relating style.   00:52 – Sarah began learning astrology by reading the horoscopes in the back of Elle magazine! But the first astrology book she ever purchased was a French title, Les Trois Dimensions de Votre Thème Astral by Patrick Giani. This was a great intro to star stuff, where Giani covers three levels of expression and health. (Sarah and Jenn also chat about Karmic Astrology, Vol. I & II by Martin Schulman!)   09:39 – If Sarah were stranded on a desert island, which books would she bring? First up: Michael Meyer’s A Handbook for the Humanistic Astrologer. This text takes the theoretical ideas of Dane Rudhyar and offers them through a practical lens. (Cool that Jenn had selected this title, too, in Episode 39, Jenn Zahrt: For the Love of Astrology (Books)!)   13:48 – The author-related Venn diagram between Sarah and Jenn continues: Sarah’s second choice is Alan Oken’s Soul-Centered Astrology: A Key to Your Expanding Self. Sarah likes how this one takes her places she wouldn’t go by herself, flips the script, and keeps her flexible!   18:16 – Join the Significant Sources Salon hosted by Dr. James Dotson starting THIS WEEK at the CAELi Institute! Prepare to discuss Ficino’s Three books on Life!   19:58 – Sarah’s third book choice is The Beginning of Wisdom by Abraham Ibn Ezra, edited by Robert Hand and translated by Meira Epstein. A lot of Sarah’s personal introduction to the cosmos was via Kabbalistic astrology, and therefore this text makes the list! (She also piles on The Book of Nativities and Revolutions by the same three folks.)   26:48 – Pasta, anyone? Sarah’s recommendations for beginners include: Planets in Transit: Life Cycles for Living by Robert Hand; Planetary Symbolism in the Horoscope by Karen Hamaker-Zondag; Chart Interpretation Handbook: Guidelines for Understanding the Essentials of the Birth Chart by Stephen Arroyo (and Astrology Karma & Transformation, also by Arroyo); and last but not least (and adding to the Sarah/Jenn crossover), Alan Oken's Complete Astrology: The Classic Guide to Modern Astrology.   35:28 – Find Sarah at: https://www.astroauntie.com/. On social, her handle is @AstroAuntie. She also teaches over at Debra Silverman’s Applied Astrology School!   36:03 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer, musician, artist, and filmmaker Jean Eon beams in from North Carolina to connect with host Jenn Zahrt about the upcoming astrological virtual reality event at the Astrohut on May 12th! The two also chat about books and more, including: getting outside the box; when descriptions of the signs line up accurately; how there is more to reality than we know; nonstandard experiences with spiritual overtones; creating calm out of chaos; contradictions in astrology; intuition versus rationality; footnotes as a map to mini library encounters; Vedic astrology; and vehicles for connection and conversation in 3D. Plus: The Lawnmower Man, falling into the twelfth house, and… what do Ben Franklin and Mary Poppins have in common?   Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded April 2024):   00:31 – Jean Eon is an astrologer, musician, artist, and filmmaker with a history of startup endeavors. His new project is the Astrohut, a virtual reality space for meeting people while exploring astrology. Jean is also fond of architecture – from David Adjaye and Zaha Hadid to Santiago Calatrava and MAD architects – as well as drawing and digitally simulating cities from a “nation” he created as a teen, which landed him a role as a contributor to Harvard’s Graduate School of Design publication New Geographies. Jean enjoys marathon raves, travel, languages (both real and made-up), and experimentation across different mediums.   00:50 – Learn about the upcoming virtual reality event at the Astrohut (and join Jenn and CAELi in the virtual courtyard)! Learn more on Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter/X: @TheAstrohut.   04:16 – Jean’s first astrology book – Sexstrology: The Astrology of Sex and the Sexes by Stella Starsky and Quinn Cox – arrived while WWOOFing” (World Wide Opportunities on Organic Farms) outside of San Francisco. Fittingly, he was beginning a first house profection year!   06:58 – If Jean were stranded in an isolated place, which three books would he bring? Noting that two of them would be astrology-adjacent, his first selection is The Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda, because this one showed him there is much more to reality than we know!   11:46 – Jean’s second choice is quasi-spiritual; on the surface it’s practical, but really it’s a metaphor for sitting with the self. The title? Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig.   17:06 – Join the Significant Sources Salon hosted by Dr. James Dotson at the CAELi Institute!   17:54 – Let’s go fly a kite! Jean’s third text is The Astrology Book: The Encyclopedia of Heavenly Influences by James R. Lewis. This tome is one he hasn’t read yet, but thinking ahead, he wonders if perhaps it could help him escape the island!   20:41 – Jean recommendations for beginners include two that would help orient newbies to understand history and its significance: Hellenistic Astrology: The Study of Fate and Fortune by Chris Brennan and both volumes of Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques by Demetra George. Also, he’s very curious to read Freedom Cole’s An Introduction to Vedic Astrology; Jenn concurs that this is an accessible textbook worth exploring. (Listen to Freedom in episode 22, Freedom Cole: Learning & Synthesizing!)   30:37 – Jean can be found on social media: on Instagram @NowIsTheEon and @TheAstrohut; on Twitter/X @_JeanEon_ and @TheAstrohut; and on TikTok @TheAstrohut.   31:10 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and teacher Gray Crawford is partile to host Jenn Zahrt this week! Join the Olympia, Washington almost-neighbors, as they chat about books and more, including: Kairos time and Chronos time; the Lots of Daimon and Fortune; theurgy and astrological magic; zodiacal releasing; layers of determinism versus cosmic creation as participatory; the idea of astrological transformation; the birth chart as an altar; secondary progressed-to-progressed combinations; archetypal timing structures; how to talk to clients; eclipse families, the Saros cycle, and midpoint theory; and parans and projected degrees. Plus: gateway books, astrological piano scarves, and … which ephemeris would you bring?     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded March 2024):   00:31 – Gray is a natal, horary, and electional astrologer and teacher. He offers a relational approach using techniques drawn from ancient and modern sources, synthesizing influences from Hellenistic, magical, mythic-archetypal, and psychological astrology. Gray has taught at UAC, NORWAC, and ISAR astrology conferences, Kepler College, and various astrology associations around the USA. His astrological writing has been published on Astrology.com, in WellBeing Astrology, and by Ignota Press. Contact Gray at his site and check out his astrology articles, educational offerings, and more!   00:51 – It’s the week of dancers and dreamers! Gray’s first astrology text ever was The Secret Language of Birthdays: Your Complete Personology Guide for Each Day of the Year by Gary Goldschneider and Joost Elffers, which fascinated him at the time. Later, he dug into The Only Astrology Book You’ll Ever Need by Joanna Woolfolk.   04:39 – If Gray were to be stranded on a desert island, which books would he bring? His first choice is On the Mysteries by Iamblichus, because he’d finally have time to read the whole book cover-to-cover!   10:20 – With some natal chart overlap, Gray has always resonated with Dane Rudhyar’s writing. Therefore, his second choice is Rudhyar’s The Astrology of Transformation.   15:34 – Join the Significant Sources Salon hosted by Dr. James Dotson at the CAELi Institute!   16:21 – Gray’s third title would be Vettius Valens’s The Anthology, because there’s so much in it! But this was a difficult pick, so Gray also gives a hat tip to: Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View by Richard Tarnas; Christian Astrology by William Lilly; and Abu Ma’shar’s Persian Nativities IV: On the Revolutions of the Years of Nativities, translated by Benjamin Dykes. (And the very cool zodiacal releasing research tool that Jenn references can be found at: https://nataltransits.com/timelord.html.)   21:04 – For beginners, Gray considered which books he’d buy his daughter. With that in mind, enjoy this wonderful and comprehensive list: Astrology: Using the Wisdom of the Stars in Your Everyday Life by Carole Taylor; Aspects in Astrology: A Guide to Understanding Planetary Relationships in the Horoscope by Sue Tompkins; Soul, Symbol, and Imagination: The Artistry of Astrology by Brian Clark; The Classical Seven Planets: Source Texts and Meaning by Charles Obert; Predictive Astrology: The Eagle and the Lark by Bernadette Brady; A Tiny Universe: Astrology and the Thema Mundi Chart by Joy Usher; and Temperament: Astrology’s Forgotten Key by Dorian Greenbaum.   27:10 – Find Gray at: https://graycrawford.net/. And check out his Patreon here!   28:48 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer, teacher, author, artist, and tarot reader Tara Aal joins host Jenn Zahrt from Los Angeles, California to chat books, and shares an incredible mini-lesson on “planets on the first.” In this ep, the duo also offers food for thought on: letting the story come through; the difference between learning together and teaching; spirit versus soul; the gifts to each sign; the way through and tests on our journey; the signs in the natal chart as an apprenticeship; how the season of birth impacts life; getting lost 360 different ways; and astrological magic and planet remediation. Plus: letting the devil out of the cake, a goosebump moment, and… our first must-have book that’s offered thanks to a previous guest’s recommendation!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded March 2024):   00:31 – Tara Aal is an evolutionary astrologer, writer, educator, artist, and tarot reader. She’s the co-author of Astrology by Moonlight and Natural Astrology. Tara’s been practicing since 2011 and sees clients, teaches, and speaks (including NORWAC, UAC, Kepler College, and ISAR). She’s passionate about experiential astrology, including the practice called Living Planets 1st. Tara currently serves on the International Society for Astrological Research (ISAR) Board as Vice President.   01:51 – Tara’s first astrology book – The Only Astrology Book You’ll Ever Need by Joanna Martine Woolfolk – was gifted to her by her boss during a performance review around the time of her first Saturn Return! About ten years later, she signed up for an astrology program and really dug in.   05:36 – If Tara accidentally got off the plane on the wrong island in the Bahamas, which books would she bring? First up: The Planets Within: The Astrological Psychology of Marsilio Ficino by Thomas Moore. Tara enjoyed this one so much that she wound up signing up for Moore’s Soul Psychology courses and is a current student of his! And thanks to Adam Sommer, who mentioned this text on episode 10; how cool to have our first must-have book mention based on a previous episode!!   10:58 – Tara’s second text would be An Astrological Triptych: Gifts of the Spirit, The Way Through, and The Illumined Road by Dane Rudhyar. This is a much-needed reference book for Tara!   17:14 – Join the Significant Sources Salon, hosted by Dr. James Dotson at the CAELi Institute!   18:01 – Tara’s third title would be An Astrological Mandala: The Cycle of Transformations and its 360 Symbolic Phases, also by Rudhyar. Tara keeps this one handy during readings, for those intuitive moments when she feels called to look up a degree symbol. (A high five also goes to The Sabian Symbols in Astrology by Marc Edmond Jones.)   20:32 – Tune in for Tara’s teaching on “Living Planets 1st,” complete with examples. (Hi, Mars!)   29:15 – As a big Rudhyar fan, Tara’s recommendations are two more in the collection: The Pulse of Life: New Dynamics in Astrology and The Astrological Houses: The Spectrum of Individual Experience. To find Rudhyar’s (free!) works, the Rudhyar link that Jenn and Tara reference is here.   30:35 – Find Tara at: https://www.taraaal.com/. And her handle on Instagram is @TaraAal.   31:22 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and coach Mark Douglas joins host Jenn Zahrt from Prince Edward Island in Canada to chat books and more! Tune in for this discussion covering: astrological dream osmosis; the Huber method; the life clock method and a mini-lesson on age progression; the energy curve as accidental dignity; golden mean, balance points, and low points; using natal astrology to look at neighbor relationships; when the age point migrates from the fifth house to the sixth house; how the immovable nature of Pluto forces you to face your prototype; the practicality of horary; and derived houses. Plus: transits as an afterthought, how Pluto and Saturn keep us honest, and when the dog eats your astrology book!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded March 2024):   00:31 – Mark is from Prince Edward Island, Canada. He is a student of astrology and obtained his diploma in Huber astrological psychology from the APA in 2018 (Dipl. APA). Additionally, he pursued John Frawley’s horary practitioner course from 2019 to 2023. Mark currently serves on the Association Professional Astrologers International (APAI) council and is an active member of the Atlantic Professional Astrologers Association. A practicing psychosynthesis and grief coach, Mark has been operating the Huber Astrological Psychosynthesis school since 2023, offering a comprehensive diploma program in Huber astrology.   02:00 – Mark’s first astrology book was The Illustrated Guide to Astrology: The Key to Understanding Human Destiny by Wynne Griffon. As a tween, Mark’s parents gifted him this massive text, which sent him on quite an astrological safari!   08:18 – If Mark were stuck on a desert island, which titles would he bring? Mark and Jenn first discuss the upcoming book by Becca Tarnas, The Soul of the Cosmos, because the divinity nature speaks to him. Plus, as a Gemini Mark loves to pick a book he hasn’t read yet!   10:23 – Mark’s second text would be Astrological Psychology: The Huber Method, edited by Barry Hopewell. Mark deeply studied Huber astrology, and folks can get tons of mileage out of this one book. (And to see Mark’s video explaining when the age point migrates from the fifth house to the sixth house, visit his YouTube page.   17:04 – Join the Significant Sources Salon, hosted by Dr. James Dotson at the CAELi Institute!   26:16 – Mark studied under John Frawley, and therefore his third desert island book is Frawley’s The Horary Textbook, because he refers to this one often. It also satisfies his practical, earthy nature!   34:56 – Mark’s recommendations for people just starting their astro journey include: The Cosmic Egg Timer by Joyce Susan Hopewell, Richard Llewellyn, and Barry Hopewell (because it’s a great intro to the Huber method), and Frawley’s previously mentioned The Horary Textbook.   36:36 – Find Mark at: https://www.theseawithinyou.com/. And on Instagram, Mark’s handle is @theseawithinyou.   38:14 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Surprise!!! CAELi's executive director Dr. Jenn Zahrt sits down in the hot seat with producer and guest host Jen Braun for an April Fools’ Day episode! In addition to founding the Celestial Arts Education Library, Jenn is an astrologer, author, publisher, poet, translator, and teacher. In this one-of-a-kind, personal interview, Jenn shares the significant life event that had her questioning her spirituality at a tender young age, and the history and mission of CAELi. Join the double Jennns as they chat about: rescuing multiple book collections; granular research into various editions of the same text; astrology as nouns and verbs; herbs, planets, and astrological medicine; how temperament fosters tolerance; writing daily horoscopes; the concept of beginner’s mind when learning astrology; the pencil-thin astrology book you didn’t know you needed; the importance of humanistic astrology; multiplicity in what many think of as “traditional astrology”; Liz Greene’s hidden gem; and fusing medieval astrology with solar arcs and midpoints. All that, plus: anthropological fantasies, eating jalapeños for anger, and… jam with us if you owned a Walkman, too!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024):   00:31 – Dr. Jenn Zahrt, PhD is an author, publisher, and teacher of cultural astronomy and astrology. In 2022, she wrapped up a five-year jaunt as an Honorary Research Fellow at the Sophia Centre for the Study of Cosmology in Culture at the University of Wales Trinity Saint David. She is an Emerita Trustee of Kepler College and has just joined their faculty! She also serves on the Board of Directors for the International Society for Astrological Research (ISAR). Her publishing company, Revelore Press, has multiple books forthcoming, so stay tuned! Jenn founded the Celestial Arts Education Library in 2021, and curates over 10,000 volumes of astrological books, journals, and newsletters. Learn more about CAELi at: www.caeli.institute.   01:15 – Learn about the winding pathway that led Jenn to found CAELi, the rare volumes housed at the library, and discover why becoming a CAELi member is a win-win! (And the book that jumped off the shelf at Jenn back in the day was Der Geist der Astrologie or The Spirit of Astrology by Oscar A. H. Schmitz, which helped to get her book gears turning!)   11:13 – Hey, you! Yeah, you there, reading these show notes! Will you please help others find the show? It just takes a sec, so go ahead: rate Within Orb five stars, write a cute little review, follow the show in your favorite podcatcher, engage with us on YouTube, and/or buy that astrology book you’ve been craving over at bookshop.org. And thanks for listening – without you, we wouldn’t have a show! So, you rock. And roll!   13:26 – Want to sponsor a show on Within Orb? Let’s connect! Reach out at: podcast(at)withinorb(dot)com   14:14 – Jenn’s first astrology book was Alan Oken’s Complete Astrology: The Classic Guide to Modern Astrology. After being grounded as a teen, she headed to the bookstore to buy this title, along with an ephemeris (a now well-worn copy of The American Ephemeris for the 20th Century at Midnight by Neil F. Michelsen to be precise), an atlas for the Americas, an atlas for the rest of the world, and The Koch Book of Tables also by Neil F. Michelsen. Astrology and Alan were answering big questions in a satisfying way! (And thanks to high school teacher Gary Lorentzen for pointing Jenn in this direction; check out Episode 20, Gary Lorentzen: Astro-History, Language, & Measuring Time.) Early on, and before she found classical texts, she dove into Jeff Wolf Green’s Pluto books and anything else she could find second-hand.   18:32 – Interlude: Join CAELi as a trial member and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   19:19 – If Jenn were wandering lost in the Badlands, which books would she bring? If she trips, falls, needs a poultice, or breaks a leg, she’ll need Jane Ridder-Patrick’s A Handbook of Medical Astrology, 2nd Ed. Also, this one addresses a deeper level of consciousness beyond just the physical.   24:19 – Jenn’s second text would be A Handbook for the Humanistic Astrologer by Michael R. Meyer, with a preface by Dane Rudhyar. Jenn would love to go back and study this book more, and it’s a fantastic resource for looking at all elements of astrological practice. For folks who write daily horoscopes, you need this one in your collection!   29:33 – Jenn’s third title may be tiny, but it packs a serious punch: The Rules of Chart Interpretation by Rod Suskin. Rod wrote this thin little book for his students; it’s the most distilled, succinct application of traditional astrology anywhere! (And hey, for someone sitting in a room of 10,000 astrology books, that’s saying something!) Listen to Rod on Episode 26, Rod Suskin: On the Textual Nexus of Commanding Space & Time.   32:28 – For beginners who have some fluency in astrology, Jenn first recommends Astrologies: Plurality and Diversity in the History of Astrology edited by Nick Campion and Liz Greene. Why? Because by the end, what you think you know astrology is, is not! Next, pick up Sky and Symbol, also edited by Nick Campion and Liz Greene – you don’t want to miss Liz Greene’s article included in this anthology, which will help you understand how astrology entered Jung’s world. It’s also one of the best chapters Liz has ever written! (And it’s a cool bonus that Jenn also has an article in this book!) Finally, Jenn encourages reading Fertility Astrology: A Modern Medieval Textbook by Nicola Smuts-Allsop, because it’s a great tactical intro to medieval astrology in a modern context.   41:39 – Find Jenn at her digital lily-pad: https://jennzahrt.com/. And join her ongoing Leaps and Bounds class over at CAELi, when you want to get your hands dirty!   42:52 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and musician Tamaryn joins host Jenn Zahrt from Half Moon Bay, California, to share about books, music, and more! Join the two for a conversation that covers: the heliacal rising star and setting star; locating your place in the universe; lightning bolt moments; the appearance of the new “star” in Cygnus; astrological magic; Uranus in Taurus and Gemini; the chart as (eyeball) art; how the optic nerve connects with the idea of translation of light; humans as fractals of light who are building consciousness; where astrology and the tree of life come together; and the acorn theory. Plus: The Little Prince, tactile immersion and transmission, and… the more you know, the more you know you don’t know!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024):   00:31 – Tamaryn, a musical luminary in the dream pop, post-punk, and shoegaze worlds, now directs her gaze toward the stars. As the proprietor of Major Arcana in Half Moon Bay, she has practiced a multitude of divination styles for hundreds of clients over the years and crafts unique handmade magical items, ranging from talismanic jewelry to hand-dyed dresses reflecting the transits of the moment.   01:26 – Tamaryn’s first astrology book was the iconic Love Signs by Linda Goodman. Other titles that brought the concept of astrology into her life were The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, Palmistry for All by Cheiro, and Predictive Astrology: The Eagle and the Lark by Bernadette Brady.   06:22 – If Tamaryn were hovering in the constellation Cygnus and could only bring three books, what would they be? First up: Star and Planet Combinations by Bernadette Brady. This is a must-have; her own copy is tattered because she uses it so much!   08:19 – Tamaryn’s second book would be Three Books on Life by Marsilio Ficino. She has started reading this one and wants to finish it! It offers ideas about how to live, and about being part of the great world soul.   09:18 – Interlude: Join CAELi as a trial member and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   10:05 – Tamaryn’s third text is the Picatrix: A Medieval Treatise on Astral Magic translated by Dan Attrell and David Porreca. She is drawn to the specific astrological info on how to make talismans. Agrippa also gets a shout-out (deets below)!   15:35 – For people just starting their astro journey, Tamaryn’s recommends: Timaeus by Plato; Sefer Yetzirah (the W.W. Westcott version is the standard one often referenced in magical texts, but Tamaryn’s first version was an interpretation by famed scholar Manly P. Hall!); Prometheus the Awakener by Richard Tarnas; The Soul's Code: In Search of Character and Calling by James Hillman; for C. G. Jung’s writings on astrology, start with Liz Greene’s overview, Jung’s Studies in Astrology; Three Books of Occult Philosophy by Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa and translated by Eric Purdue; and last but not least, Brady’s previously mentioned Star and Planet Combinations. Get ready to break your book budget!   28:17 – Find Tamaryn’s music wherever you get your tunes! Or schedule a reading at: stargazer.as.me. And on Instagram, Tamaryn’s handles are @tamarynmusic and @shopmajorarcana.   28:48 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC. Note: This episode’s conversation was edited down to fit the size of the show.

Astrologer Gabriel Rosas sits down with host Jenn Zahrt to chat books and more! Laugh and learn with these two friends as they cover: Project Hindsight; hermetic lots; the concept of time as nonstationary; breaking the modern spell of how the world exists; the lost delineation of the meaning behind each arc minute; how circumstances and conditions can force action; knowing our charts well; finding the teacher within; profections; and being under the beams of the Sun. Plus: true crime astrology, walking versus hiking, and… drink your water, people!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024):   00:31 – Gabe Rosas has been studying traditional astrologies for over 20 years. He started with Robert Zoller’s medieval astrology course, and later became a pupil of Robert Schmidt at Project Hindsight. Gabe’s practice of Hellenistic astrology seeks to bring the wisdom and worldview of antiquity to people living in the modern world. Gabe spoke at the Northwest Astrology Conference (NORWAC) in 2023; if you see him at the upcoming NORWAC 2024, get within orb and say hi!   01:05 – Gabe’s first astrology book was Linda Goodman’s Sun Signs, which he found in the library as a kid. Later, after taking astrology more seriously, he read Horoscope Symbols by Robert Hand, which he found to be a considered, logical book on a complicated topic! (And a high five to Robert Zoller, one of Gabe’s teachers, and specifically the title The Lost Key to Prediction: The Arabic Parts in Astrology that Jenn mentioned!)   09:50 – If Gabe were trapped in an escape room, which books would he bring? First, Vettius Valens’s The Anthology is a must! Gabe finds much value in the way that Valens teaches through this text.   11:50 – Interlude: Join CAELi as a trial member and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   12:36 – Gabe’s second title would be Mathesis by Julius Firmicus Maternus, which has been translated into English by James Herschel Holden (AFA) and also Ben Dykes (Cazimi Press). Gabe finds that Firmicus includes pieces that are missing from Valens’s tome; they work well together!   21:55 – Gabe’s third book is Robert Schmidt’s out-of-print Definitions and Foundations, which is Schmidt’s reconstruction of fragments of Antiochus’s works scattered throughout other Hellenistic sources. This was Robert Schmidt’s last book, and the collation includes helpful comments related to his reconstruction of the original text.   28:05– Start at the beginning! Gabe’s recommendation is that beginners start with traditional astrology, and therefore points to Demetra George’s two-volume set Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques. Other titles for folks new to astrology include On the Heavenly Spheres by Helena Avelar and Luis Ribeiro, as well as the previously mentioned works of Valens and Firmicus (but start with Valens). Want to read Schmidt’s Antiochus? Come to CAELi, where this hard-to-find text is waiting just for you!!   29:29 – Find Gabe at: https://www.gabrielrosasastrology.com/, and @gimelresh on social (Threads and X).   30:06 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and teacher Erica Jones joins host Jenn Zahrt from Vashon Island, Washington for a conversation about books and more! Take the elevator to meet this duo, and hear about: archetypal astrology; how philosophy and astrology hold hands; the parable of two suitors; responding, not reacting; the thrill of discovery; Moon planting; delicate empiricism; Neptune as a place that’s not literal; how memory is a creative act; starting where what astrologers agree; and Mars-Pluto suggestions. Plus: the numinous, a mic drop moment, and… no mechanical metaphors allowed!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024):   00:31 – Erica Jones is an astrologer, a teacher, and an intuitive engaged with metaphysics and consciousness studies since 2006, with a special emphasis on ecopsychology, astrology, and psycho-spiritual growth. The archetypal astrology of Richard Tarnas is her foundational astrological influence, and she enjoys frolicking among the many varieties of astrologies. Her latest work involves using the heart as an organ of perception to gather astrological knowledge from the anima mundi, moving beyond a two-dimensional contemplation of abstract star maps and into a multi-dimensional experience of the cosmos as a wild, living being brimming with intelligence and sentient beauty.   01:29 – Erica’s first astrology book was Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View by Richard Tarnas. This tome was an awakening for Erica; she was supposed to read the first 50 pages for a college class, but wound up reading the whole thing!   10:45 – If Erica were stuck in an elevator at UAC 2012 (hah!), what three texts would she bring with her? First up: the previously mentioned Cosmos and Psyche, which is a dense gift that keeps on giving.   08:39 – Erica’s second title would be Astrological Gardening: The Ancient Wisdom of Successful Planting & Harvesting by the Stars by Louise Riotte (with a hat tip to Louise’s Secrets of Companion Planting for Successful Gardening). A well-deserved thanks to CAELi: Erica was a recent visitor and found a treasure trove of books on astrological gardening, which helped her write a professional column on the topic! (Other books mentioned: What Is Biodynamics?: A Way to Heal and Revitalize the Earth by Rudolf Steiner, Planetary Influences upon Plants: Cosmological Botany by Ernst M. Kranich, and The Metamorphosis of Plants by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.)   19:11 – Interlude: Join CAELi as a trial member and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   19:57 – Erica’s third text is The Astrological Neptune and the Quest for Redemption by Liz Greene; she finds it to be a thoughtful compilation of a visionary, and a text you can push back on when trying to pin down what Neptune means.   30:29 – Erica recommends several books for beginners: Aspects in Astrology: A Guide to Understanding Planetary Relationships in the Horoscope by Sue Tompkins; The Combination of Stellar Influences by Reinhold Ebertin (translated by Alfred G. Roosedale); and Astrology, Karma & Transformation by Stephen Arroyo.   39:25 – Find Erica at: https://www.realimaginal.com, or @realimaginalastrology on Instagram and Facebook.   40:44 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Join Professor Dr. Nick Campion from the breathtaking port city of Bristol as he shares his favorite books and more with our host Jenn Zahrt! Tune in to hear all about: the origin of Nick’s love of the stars; “living texts”; the importance of cross-citation and astrological lineages; history and mythology; the history of the Faculty of Astrological Studies in London; retrospective chart examples; the implications of time, space, and freedom; whether astrology always works; the idea of assemblages; and the importance of astrology for self-knowledge and personal change. Plus: the astro road show, Perry Como, and… is everything connected? We’re releasing this episode on his birthday, so Happy Birthday, Nick!!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024):   00:31 – Dr. Nicholas Campion is one of the world’s leading historians of astrology. He teaches and writes about the history and culture of astronomy, astrology, cosmology, and utopian and millennial beliefs. He is the director of the Sophia Centre’s distance learning master’s program in cultural astronomy and astrology at the University of Wales Trinity Saint David. Nick has been decorated with countless awards, including the 1994 Marc Edmund Jones Award, the 1994 Prix Georges Antares Award, the 1999 Spica Award, the 2002 Charles Harvey Prize, and two Regulus Awards (2002 and 2012). He’s written multiple books, including the esteemed A History of Western Astrology, Volumes I & II, and our favorite astrological cookbook, Cosmic Cuisine (together with Tom Jaine in 1988).   02:32 – Hear Nick’s astrological beginnings, as he shares the first astrology book he ever read, The Origin of the Zodiac by Rupert Gleadow. Nick was 17 years old in 1970 when he found this title at a second-hand shop in Cambridge, England!   10:45 – If Nick were stuck in the dark sky park of Sark, the first book he’d pack would be Christian Astrology by William Lilly, because he’s been consulting this one a lot lately! Lilly’s work offers foundational points for modern astrology. It’s also helpful to be able to read it in the original language (English), as opposed to a translation. (Shout out to Sark in the Dark: Wellbeing and Community on the Dark Sky Island of Sark by Ada Blair, and Sky and Purpose in Prehistoric Malta: Sun, Moon, and Stars at the Temples of Mnajdra by Tore Lomsdalen, both “classics” according to Nick!)   18:31 – Interlude: Join CAELi as a trial member and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   19:18 – Nick’s second text he’d bring to the island of Sark is The Modern Text-Book of Astrology by Margaret Hone – one of the main teaching books in the English-speaking world from 1951 to the early 1970s, and the book that Nick learned astrology from! Hone’s text is focused on personality and establishes a psychologically oriented character description as important. (Enjoy the side trip to Teach Yourself Astrology by Jeff Mayo!)   25:23 – Nick’s third choice is Liz Greene’s seminal work Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil, because Greene helped to develop the ideas of the planets and zodiac signs as processes. (Greene followed up on Dane Rudhyar’s work, so brush up on your dose of Rudhyar to better understand modern astrology!) Protip: CAELi members can meet with Dr James Dotson (Episode 6) to discuss Rudhyar’s work at CAELi’s new Significant Sources Salon; Rudhyar will be highlighted on November 13, 2024!   28:58 – For beginners, Nick recommends The Compleat Astrologer by Derek and Julia Parker (republished as The New Compleat Astrologer). The Parkers were heavily influenced by Hone, and this well-written work is based on a personality approach to natal astrology.   30:46 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer, tarot reader, writer, and educator Michael J Morris joins host Jenn Zahrt from Columbus, Ohio to dive into books, astrology, feminist science studies, and more! Join the PhD duo for a chat that includes: feminist theories; exploring connections not always apparent; the concept of meaning-making; scientific objectivity; the interrelationship between epistemology, ontology, ethics, and politics; quantum physics; how the only lasting truth is change; and emergent strategy. Plus: getting out of our head and into our body, the God trick, and… small is good!!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024):   00:31 – Michael is an astrologer, witch, tarot reader, dance artist, writer, and teacher. Michael has a consultation practice, is a teaching assistant for Kelly Surtees’s online courses, and is a guide in AFAN’s mentorship program (Association for Astrological Networking). They also write for the CHANI app, are a contributing artist and facilitator with Livable Futures, and teach in the Foundations in Embodied Ancestral Inquiry course. Michael holds a PhD in Dance Studies from The Ohio State University. Their astrology is rooted in Hellenistic traditions but is also shaped by feminist methods of thought.   03:09 – Michael’s first astrology book was Astrology: A Cosmic Science by Isabel M. Hickey. This text helped them begin to understand the complexity of the astrological tradition beyond Sun sign horoscopes in the newspaper!   06:24 – If Michael were stuck on a desert island, what books would they bring? Using two schools of thought, Michael’s astrology texts would include triple doses of Demetra George! But aside from Demetra’s Astrology and the Authentic Self: Integrating Traditional and Modern Astrology to Uncover the Essence of the Birth Chart and Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques, Volumes I & II), Michael would expand the framework to look at feminist science studies. And in that view, they would first select an essay entitled, “Situated Knowledges: The Science Question in Feminism and the Privilege of Partial Perspective” by Donna Haraway (from the text Simians, Cyborgs, and Women: The Reinvention of Nature).   17:14 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   18:02 – Michael’s second text is Meeting the Universe Halfway: Quantum Physics and the Entanglement of Matter and Meaning by Karen Barad. This one offers thoughtful questions – for example, exploring the idea that what something is (ontology) depends upon how we attempt to know it (epistemology).   27:05 – Michael’s third choice is Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds by adrienne maree brown. Exploring our relationship to change through a study of the more-than-human world, brown’s work is inspired by Octavia Butler’s Parable of the Sower and Parable of the Talents.   32:06 – For beginners, Michael suggests Chani Nicholas’s vibrant You Were Born for This: Astrology for Radical Self-Acceptance. Their next rec is the previously mentioned Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques, Volumes I & II by Demetra George. You can build an astrological practice from the ground up, simply using these three texts!   34:56 – Find Michael at their website: https://www.michaeljmorris.co/. And on social, their Instagram handle is @cowitchcraftofferings.   37:00 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and researcher George Coutts joins host Jenn Zahrt from Toronto to discuss books and more! Join the hilariously self-named George Quincunx and Jenn Inconjunct for: the Bible and astrology; Sabian astrologers; the five enemies of the scholar; the history of gender and sexuality in astrology; Ficino’s personal life; how astrological writings are married to time and place; and a great tip on how to find the perfect beginner book. Plus: Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat, rubbing wine on your temples, and the Reagan administration!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024):   00:31 – George is an astrological researcher, writer, and occasional playwright from Toronto. He is a grad of UWTSD's MA program in Cultural Astronomy and Astrology where he wrote on the use of gendered language through astrological history. He’s currently en route to his PhD, studying the history of gender and sexuality in astrology! He spends his days delving into astrological, religious, and sociological texts whose myths describe —and create— our sense of what it means to be humans living together on a small planet.   00:48 – George’s first astrology book was The Secret Language of Birthdays: Your Complete Personology Guide for Each Day of the Year by Gary Goldschneider and Joost Elffers. Or was it?? George credits growing up in a secular family and learning about a magical, mystical world through Bible stories (hello, Joseph with his flamboyant dreamcoat)! Also mentioned: The Messianic Star: New Light on the Star of Bethlehem (Studies in Cultural Astronomy and Astrology) by Martin Wells.   04:01 – If George were stuck in Antarctica, what books would he bring? The first in his satchel is De Vita Libri Tres (Three Books on Life) by Marsilio Ficino, because it would offer important tidbits as a practical manual. (And be sure to check out My Dear Boy: Gay Love Letters Through the Centuries, edited by Rictor Norton.)   11:34 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   12:21 – George’s second text is Relating: An Astrological Guide to Living with Others on a Small Planet by Liz Greene. This one lit a fire in George that got him onto his current research path! And become a CAELi member to receive a copy of The CAELi Review and enjoy SJ Anderson’s article!   21:21 – Presidential intrigue? Check! Saving the world with astrology? Check! Bringing about world peace? Check! Celebrity drama? Check! George’s third selection is What Does Joan Say?: My Seven Years As White House Astrologer to Nancy and Ronald Reagan by Joan Quigley. Run, don’t walk, for this one, you Real Housewives fans!   26:09 – For beginners, George recommends first deciding what you’ll be using astrology for and going from there! History is important, though, so you can’t go wrong with A History of Western Astrology, Volumes I & II by Nicholas Campion. George also offers this advice: Don’t limit yourself to titles with the word “astrology” in them, but rather, investigate general histories of what interests you – which is how he found A Vindication of the Rights of Woman by Mary Wollstonecraft!   30:08 – Connect with George via email: grgcoutts (at) gmail (dot) com.   30:39 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and podcaster Daniel Norman slides up the West Coast from LA to join host Jenn Zahrt for a vibrant and fast-paced conversation about books and more! Join them as they discuss: intercepted signs; the lord of the orb; dwar and Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions; the bound ruler of a degree; the hierarchical weighting of essential dignities (or are they equal?); the fantasteroid way; jumping in the deep end of the astrological pool; and thinking about culturally determined significations. All that, plus: Bruce Springsteen, the juicy astrological house debate, and book genies!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Jan. 2024):   00:31 – Daniel is an astrologer, magical practitioner, artist, and lifelong spiritual seeker. They previously pursued careers in music and film while working for 15 years as a bartender in Los Angeles, where they currently reside with their wife and three children. These experiences are an indelible part of Daniel’s approach to divination which seeks to align the inherent mystery of the cosmos with the practical reality of day-to-day life. Check out Daniel’s new podcast, What Time Is It?   02:52 – Daniel’s first astrology book was The Inner Sky by Steven Forrest. They read it years before getting into astrology because they were dating an astrologer at the time! (A bonus book worth noting is Understanding Interceptions: A Key to Unlocking the Door by Chris McRae.)   08:30 – If Daniel were stuck on a desert island, which books would they bring? First up: the green book, which has all the stuff you might need in your toolkit, aka Abu Ma'shar Al-Balkhi’s Persian Nativities IV: On the Revolutions of the Years of Nativities, translated by Benjamin Dykes. But they’d also take the helpful notes of Dr. Ali Olomi to provide context! (And to hear more on the lord of the orb, visit Episode 5, Camm Cassidy & the Lord of the Orb!)   16:17 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   17:04 – Daniel’s second selection is the useful and magical Inside Degrees: Developing Your Soul Biography Using the Chandra Symbols by Ellias Lonsdale. It’s been fun to ask friends about their Ascendant degree and amaze them with the book’s accuracy! (And learn about fantasteroids here!)   25:10 – Daniel’s third choice is Austin Coppock’s 36 Faces: The History, Astrology and Magic of the Decans, because this hard-to-find text highlights the inherently narrative nature of the significations.   28:15 – Daniel’s recommendations for beginners are: Temperament: Astrology's Forgotten Key by Dorian Gieseler Greenbaum; Astrology and the Authentic Self: Integrating Traditional and Modern Astrology to Uncover the Essence of the Birth Chart by Demetra George (also, a bonus rec is Demetra’s Mysteries of the Dark Moon: The Healing Power of the Dark Goddess which you can find at CAELi AND hear more about on Episode 7 with Aerin Fogel!); and last but not least, Postcolonial Astrology: Reading the Planets through Capital, Power, and Labor by Alice Sparkly Kat.   35:19 – Find Daniel at their website: https://www.everhappening.com/. They are also on most social media @everhappening, except for X, where their handle is @daniel_the_lion!   36:08 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and teacher Rosanne Finn portals over to host Jenn Zahrt for a packed chat about books and so much more! Join the two from Olympia, Washington for: understanding one’s spiritual purpose through the Ascendant; theosophical astrology; the visionaries of the 1860s; Houck’s Law, tertiary progressions, and the dosha sequence; Vedic astrology and death; extreme declination and high declination; the Kuiper Belt as a toroidal field; and Pluto, Hauema, and Makemake. Plus: infusing flower essences into a text, blowing the dandelions around, and Persephone’s Revolution!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Jan. 2024):   00:31 – Rosanne has been a practicing astrologer since 1999, combining Western, esoteric, and Vedic astrology. Rosanne’s path to astrology is unusual: She went from a job in engineering, to living in an ashram for four years, to a long road trip that landed her in Massachusetts (where she took an astrology class with Joseph Crane), to finally arriving in Olympia, Washington in 1995. Rosanne holds a Jyotish Visharada certification with the Council of Vedic Astrology, has done readings for thousands of clients, and has also taught hundreds of students. Her book Persephone’s Revolution is being published by Revelore Press and will be available soon!   00:54 – Rosanne’s introduction to astrology? When she was living in an ashram, a friend introduced her to The Modern Text-Book of Astrology by Margaret Hone.   01:22 – If Rosanne were stranded on the San Juan Islands (keeping her local!) and could only bring three books, what would they be? Her first choice would be Alice Bailey’s dense but deep Esoteric Astrology. Rosanne feels transcended and transformed when reading this one. (Books that helped her assimilate Bailey’s work were Soul Centered Astrology: A Key to Your Expanding Self by Alan Oken and Esoteric Astrology: A New Astrology for a New Millennium by Douglas Baker.)   06:58 – Rosanne’s second selection is The Secret Doctrine by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky. This book is full of wisdom and Rosanne feels transported to another dimension of reality when she reads it.   11:09 – Rosanne’s third choice is the classic Vedic astrology text Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra, which is largely attributed to author Maharishi Parasara. This one is a two-fer for Rosanne: She loves the Sanskrit in here, so could continue her Sanskrit studies while deepening her knowledge of Vedic techniques! (And as a bonus: Hear about James Kelleher’s Path of Light Vedic astrology books and the fascinating, out-of-print The Astrology of Death by Richard Houck.)   17:06 – Interlude: Join CAELi  and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   17:52 – Hear about Rosanne’s fascinating journey to becoming an astrologer, and her upcoming book Persephone’s Revolution, about Pluto’s extreme declination cycle and the rise and fall of world empires!   28:21 – Rosanne’s recommendations for beginners? Buckle up for a wonderful list, including: Predictive Astrology: The Eagle and the Lark by Bernadette Brady; the series The Only Way to Learn Astrology by Marion D. March and Joan McEvers; Astrology and the Authentic Self: Integrating Traditional and Modern Astrology to Uncover the Essence of the Birth Chart by Demetra George; Astrology for Yourself: How to Understand And Interpret Your Own Birth Chart by Demetra George and Douglas Bloch; Complete Astrology: The Classic Guide to Modern Astrology by Alan Oken; Dynamics of Aspect Analysis: New Perceptions in Astrology by Bil Tierney; Navigating by the Stars: Astrology and the Art of Decision-Making by Edith Hathaway; and the previously mentioned Richard Houck book, all available to read when you visit CAELi!   31:14 – Find Rosanne at her website: https://www.astrologywithrosiefinn.com/. And stay tuned for an upcoming virtual book talk at CAELi about Persephone’s Revolution!   31:50 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer Sam Oakwell joins host Jenn Zahrt this week from the heady clime of Ann Arbor, Michigan! Sam and Jenn sit down for a chat about books and more, including: ancient Atlantean astrology; the soul moving through signs; astrological divination; profections, firdaria, and primary directions; a stochastic philosophical approach; astrological magic; planetary rituals; phenomenology; embodiment and lived experience; and a new way to view chart remediation. Plus: hanging with Santa Cruz hippies, a bridge to the future, and… there’s nothing wrong with your chart!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Jan. 2024):   00:31 – Sam Oakwell is an astrologer and independent scholar, whose approach combines Hellenistic, medieval, and modern techniques. They view astrology as a form of divination and engage with it as part of their larger spiritual practice, which draws from a variety of sources including Hellenistic paganism, Zen Buddhism, and contemporary occultism. In a (metaphorical) past life, they studied philosophy at the graduate level, focusing especially on phenomenology and metaphysics. Their website is launching soon, so watch this space for a live link when the magic is unleashed!   01:49 – Sam’s first astrology book was 2012: Crossing the Bridge to the Future by Mark Borax. They came across this one at a used bookstore, and Sam was intrigued by this strange autobiographical text depicting the author’s experiences with astrologer William (Ellias) Lonsdale.   06:40 – If Sam were stranded on a desert island, which books would they take? First up: Abu Ma'shar Al-Balkhi’s Persian Nativities IV: On the Revolutions of the Years of Nativities, translated by Benjamin Dykes. This comprehensive text for predictive timing techniques never disappoints.   12:02 – Sam’s second choice is The Celestial Art: Essays on Astrological Magic (Western Esotericism in Context), an out-of-print book edited by Austin Coppock and Daniel A. Schulke. Sam enjoys the wide range of traditions and approaches in this seminal text on situating astrology back into occult and magic discourses. Luminaries such as Demetra George, Austin Coppock himself, John Michael Greer, Jason Miller, Freedom Cole, Benjamin Dykes, Al Cummins, Lee Lehman, and Eric Purdue contributed to the volume. If you can’t find a copy become a CAELi member and read it at the library!   18:30 – Interlude: Join CAELi  and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   19:17 – Sam’s third selection is Phenomenology of Perception by Maurice Merleau-Ponty. This is a dense but beautifully written tome that emphasizes the role of the living body in philosophy, taking thoughts out of the heady realm of the mind and back into local, lived space. While not an astrology text, the phenomenology presented here will enhance anyone’s astrological practice.   31:07 – Sam’s recommendations for beginners? First, they’d suggest Hellenistic Astrology: The Study of Fate and Fortune by Chris Brennan. Additionally, Sam mentions that the transcripts from Chris’s The Astrology Podcast are a great way to learn. A Scheme of Heaven: The History of Astrology and the Search for our Destiny in Data by Alexander Boxer also gets a nod because it’s so comprehensive and provides context from the realm of data science. Finally, a philosophy book that’s good for astrologers and magicians is Technic and Magic: The Reconstruction of Reality by Federico Campagna.   37:12 – Find Sam at their website: https://www.oakwellastrology.com/.   37:39 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer, author, and teacher Karen Hawkwood joins host Jenn Zahrt this week! The duo takes parallel tracks to arrive at a conversation filled with books and more, including: the history of Kepler College; living conversations in written form; sly Neptune steering the chat to evade description; the drop going back to the ocean; existential yearning; the true medicine of the sixth house; the beauty and necessity of defenses; and Saturn and Chiron. Plus: mermaid wrangling, paradox, and… is building a Neptunian shelter a good choice or a terrible one??     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Dec. 2023):   00:31 – Karen, aka KJ Sassypants, graduated from Kepler College in 2004 with a bachelor’s degree in liberal arts after a 4-year curriculum that included astrological history and practice. Then in 2013, she completed Martha Beck’s Life Coach Training program. Today, she combines the depth and insight of psychological astrology with effective coaching tools to help clients. KJ is the author of Surviving 30: Waking Up To Your True Self Through Your Saturn Return. She also runs the Paradox School, a 12-month training program for anyone desiring deeper fluency in understanding how people work.   04:40 – KJ first encountered astrology in middle school when her best friend’s mom interpreted her chart! She later found Alan Oken’s red-and-gold covered As Above, So Below in a Boulder, CO bookstore. (Extra pod points awarded here, because Jenn and KJ shared the same first astrology text – although Jenn’s had the black, white, and purple cover!)   08:39 – If KJ were stranded on a desert island, which books would she take? It’s all about Liz Greene for Ms. Sassypants! Her first selection is Liz’s The Horoscope in Manifestation: Psychology and Prediction, because Liz has an amazing way of teaching the intersection of depth psychology and archetypal astrology.   13:04 – Interlude: Join CAELi  and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   13:51 – KJ’s second choice is Liz’s brilliant tome The Astrological Neptune and the Quest for Redemption. Neptune is strong in KJ’s chart, and when she reads this book, she feels seen!   24:00 – KJ’s third selection is Liz’s Barriers and Boundaries: The Horoscope and the Defences of the Personality. How can our pain shape us? This cloth-covered, hidden gem unfolds the defensive structures that the human psyche puts in place to protect itself.   29:19 – Liz just released her first book in 20 years, so hop on the book bus as Jenn and KJ discuss Chiron in Love: The Astrology of Envy, Rage, Compassion and Wisdom.   30:31 – KJ’s recommendations for beginners? She once trained with Steven Forrest, so The Inner Sky gets a vote. But her main rec is Liz Greene’s Relating: An Astrological Guide to Living With Others on a Small Planet. This accessible book introduces the collective unconscious and the idea of projection. One caveat that KJ always shares, however, is that because this text was published in the 1970s, it feels a bit dated with its heteronormative and gender-binary language. It’s a rare book to find, though! (Hint: CAELi has a copy – one more perk of becoming a member!)   34:55 – Find KJ at her website, http://www.karenhawkwood.com/, where you can learn more about her and the Paradox School. Also, join her on Facebook: @kjsassypants.   35:32 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Award-winning astrologer Bear Ryver joins host Jenn Zahrt with tin can phone in hand from Olympia, WA! Together, the CAELi colleagues cover: book terrain, elemental imbalances, fixed stars, firdaria, Jupiter in Taurus, Sabian symbols, observational astronomy, degree theory, the Boomer-Millennial Saturn/Uranus connection, and more. All that, plus: dial-up modems, Battlestar Galactica philosophy, and… learning that dinner doesn’t always have to be an accomplishment!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Oct. 2023):   00:31 – Bear won the Organization for Professional Astrology’s Most Promising Astrologer award in 2018! As a queer astrologer with a focus on Intersectionality, Bear uses compassion and humor to help his clients hone strategies for grounded growth and embodied empowerment by bringing them back to the BASICS – bravery, authenticity, sovereignty, courage, and stewardship. Bear has lectured at conferences like NORWAC and ISAR. He holds certifications in Hellenistic, electional, and horary astrology, and was a teacher for the Portland School of Astrology.   01:16 – The first astrology book that Bear received was from his grandma! It was a little pocket astrology book about Leos (Bear and Grandma share that sign). Later, as a teen, Bear discovered two books by Stephen Arroyo: Astrology, Psychology, and the Four Elements: An Energy Approach to Astrology and Its Use in the Counseling Arts and Astrology, Karma & Transformation. Here’s to astrology-loving grandmas everywhere! (Bonus side conversation: Check out Temperament: Astrology's Forgotten Key by Dorian Gieseler Greenbaum.)   05:27 – If Bear were lost in the Olympic Mountains, what books would he bring? First up (and in order of print date), he would bring his 1911 copy of Star Lore of All Ages by William Tyler Olcott. Bear appreciates Olcott’s approach to cultural astronomy.   07:36 – Bear’s second choice is Abu Ma'shar Al-Balkhi’s Persian Nativities IV: On the Revolutions of the Years of Nativities, translated by Benjamin Dykes. This is an essential text on timing techniques; Bear uses it when prepping for clients.   15:52 – Enjoy the conversational trip to Georgia Stathis’s Pushing Through Time: Synodic Cycles and Their Developing Phases and Robert P. Blaschke’s Sabian Aspect Orbs (Astrology: A Language of Life, Vol. 2). Both books cover synodic cycles!   17:56 – Interlude: Join CAELi  and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!)   18:42 – Bear’s third selection is about lunar mansions and more: Shams al-Ma’arif: The Sun of Knowledge, An Arabic Grimoire: A Selected Translation by Ahmad ibn ‘Ali al-Buni and translated from the Arabic by Amina Inloes, PhD, with commentary and illustrations by J.M. Hamade. (And check out episode 27 from last week, J.M. Hamade: A Starry Tour Guide’s Travelogue!)   30:49 – Bear’s recommendations for beginners? For those who want to nerd out on history and do some homework, Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques by Demetra George is a wonderfully approachable entry point. For the super-duper newbie, check out Chani Nicholas’s You Were Born for This: Astrology for Radical Self-Acceptance. A favorite of both Bear and Jenn is On the Heavenly Spheres by Helena Avelar and Luis Ribeiro. For the intermediate student, the previously mentioned Persian Nativities IV is a must. Finally, for those interested in history and mundane astrology, Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View by Richard Tarnas is the one to have.   34:22 – Find Bear at his website: https://www.bearryver.com/. And his handle on social media is @bearryver.   35:05 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.