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Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science

Tommy Serafinski

Tommy’s Outdoors: Conservation and Science is a captivating show for those with a deep interest in all facets of nature and nature conservation. This unique show is hosted by Tommy Serafinski, an outdoorsman, blogger and speaker, who has a particular interest in wildlife and human-wildlife interactions. The show’s episodes present a multitude of perspectives and viewpoints on nuanced, often difficult, and sometimes controversial, matters within the realm of conservation and natural sciences. Immerse yourself in fascinating discussions with esteemed scientists, dedicated conservationists, and passionate environmentalists as they shed light on pressing topics such as rewilding, the sustainable use of nature, the alarming decline in biodiversity, and the far-reaching impacts of climate change. To delve even deeper into the subjects covered in our episodes, subscribe to the fortnightly Conservation and Science newsletter. By doing so, you will get a wealth of additional materials to expand your knowledge on the crucial matters we discuss. You will also gain access to exclusive content, get early access and be notified about live events. Subscribe to Tommy’s Outdoors: Conservation and Science YouTube channel to catch all episodes in the full video version as well as video shorts with snippets from the episodes. Also follow the show on social media: Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok and Bluesky. Finally, don’t forget to visit Tommy’s Outdoors website to explore the extensive archives of our content. read less
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176: Invasive Ants Impact Lion Predation on Zebras, with Adam T. Ford
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176: Invasive Ants Impact Lion Predation on Zebras, with Adam T. Ford
The paper that we discuss in this episode describes how an invasive species of ants disrupts lion hunting behaviour. There are also acacia trees, elephants, zebras and buffalos involved in the whole chain of interactions between species. To talk about this incredibly interesting research I invited an Associate Professor, Adam Ford, Canada Research Chair in Wildlife Restoration Ecology at the University of British Columbia in Kelowna, Canada who has a lab of graduate and undergraduate students who work on large mammal ecology. As for the paper that we will discuss today, it was led by Douglas N. Kamaru, a PhD student at the University of Wyoming, in the Goheen lab (Professor Jake Goheen). The other leads are Todd M. Palmer, University of Florida and Corinna Riginos, University of Wyoming. To see the full list of contributors (a total of 20 scientists) I refer you to the paper, which is linked below.As always, you will get more links and articles to dive even deeper into topics we discuss on the podcast in my newsletter. So make sure you subscribe to not miss out on any nerdy, ecological goodness.Further reading:Invasive ants leave lions scrambling for prey on the savannah in an ecological chain reaction | Popular ScienceDisruption of an ant-plant mutualism shapes interactions between lions and their primary prey | ScienceTiny ant species disrupts lion's hunting behavior | ScienceDailySubscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and Facebook
175: SOTKA Wetlands with Veli-Matti Pekkarinen and Heikki Helle
Apr 9 2024
175: SOTKA Wetlands with Veli-Matti Pekkarinen and Heikki Helle
Finnish SOTKA is a large-scale habitat restoration project and a part of a larger Helmi Habitats Programme aimed at restoring Finland’s biodiversity. It is run by the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry and the Ministry of the Environment. SOTKA’s objective is large-scale habitat restoration through wetlands rehabilitation, restoration of mires and catchments, non-native (i.e. invasive) predator control and building a network of resting areas for waterfowl. It is also a great example of cooperation between hunting and non-hunting organisations for the benefit of nature. This type of cooperation is something I’ve always been a strong advocate of. So it was my great pleasure to invite to the podcast: Veli-Matti Pekkarinen, the Waterfowl Habitat Specialist from the Finnish Hunters’ Association and Heikki Helle, the Wetland Specialist at BirdLife Finland.Listen to our conversation to learn more about SOTKA and Helmi projects. We also discuss the details of cooperation and specific actions that are undertaken to meet project objectives. I also enquired about the social perception in Finland of actions like predator control. Overall it was interesting to compare mindsets and attitudes in Finland with those in Ireland or the UK. Also, big shoutouts to Padraig Breen from NARGC who was instrumental in making this podcast episode happen. Subscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and Facebook
173: The Last Keeper with Tom Opre
Mar 19 2024
173: The Last Keeper with Tom Opre
I have been waiting for Tom Opre’s new film “The Last Keeper” since I learned in July 2022 that he and his team are working on it. Well, the wait was over for me at the beginning of February 2024, as I was the only person in Ireland to screen the film. The wait will soon be over for you as well since the film premieres in mid-April in Edinburgh. While you are still waiting, you can listen to my conversation with Tom about the film and wider aspects of Tom’s mission of talking about conservation and indigenous communities.The Last Keeper is a documentary film that takes on the difficult subject of conflict surrounding land use in Scotland. It does a great job of presenting the views from all sides of the struggle. From estate owners, keepers and members of local communities to environmental NGOs, politicians and proponents of rewilding. On top of that, the conversations presented are not just dry statements of opinion. Tom is not shying away from asking difficult questions and pushing his interviewees outside their comfort zone. All that is complemented by brilliant cinematography showcasing stunning views of Scottish landscapes.As this episode drops before the premiere of the film, we are careful to not spill the beans too much during our conversation. Instead, Tom gives you an insight into what drives him to do all his work and how it connects to the topic of his latest film. I fully expect a full range of opinions about the film and the views it presents. It will likely justify a follow-up episode with reactions to the film from those who are facing the issues presented or are just interested in them. For now, enjoy our conversation and don’t forget to subscribe to The Last Keeper newsletter to see the film’s trailer and stay updated about the film’s screening dates and the latest news about it.Subscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and Facebook
172: Antidote to Screen Addiction with Emanuel Rose
Mar 5 2024
172: Antidote to Screen Addiction with Emanuel Rose
This episode is slightly different than usual when it comes to its subject. However, working with technology by day and creating digital content by night, I spend substantial time thinking about and grappling with this subject. So when I learned that a long-term supporter and a friend of the podcast, Emanuel Rose, wrote a book about it, I decided to have him on for a chat.The subject in question is our unhealthy addiction to our phones (mostly) and other devices. Which in the not-so-long term results in a shortened attention span, inability to focus and all-around decrease in happiness and increase in anxiety. And that is not a good state of mind.In his book, “The 7 Principles of the Magic Rock: How Solitude in Nature Anchors Your Mental Health” Emanuel Rose suggests that unplugging and spending more time in nature is a perfect antidote to the aforementioned predicaments. In his succinct book, the author provides plenty of practical advice. It is rounded out with plentiful references to articles and peer-reviewed papers.Get "The 7 Principles of the Magic Rock": https://amzn.to/49ESu59Subscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and FacebookTommy’s Outdoors is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.co.uk
170: EU Biodiversity Strategy 2030 with Frank Vassen
Feb 13 2024
170: EU Biodiversity Strategy 2030 with Frank Vassen
Currently, a lot is going on in the European Union concerning regulations that can impact nature and nature restoration. To get a better understanding of the current state of nature in the European Union and the future of nature conservation and restoration I talk with Frank Vassen. Frank works in the Nature Unit in the General Directorate for the Environment at the European Commission. That might sound a little dry but worry not. The conversation was joyful and funny at times. Frank has a good sense of humour and deep understanding of nature conservation and you can see his passion for it.After listening to this episode you will have a comprehensive view of the current state of affairs when it comes to nature conservation in the European context. I asked Frank to explain terms like Natura 2000, 30 by 30, OECMs, etc. These are the terms that we often hear but it’s not always clear what they are and what level of nature protection they offer. We also discuss the challenges faced by nature conservation and restoration initiatives and the possible solutions. We finish with the outlook for the future of nature conservation and restoration in the EU.Last but not least, we discuss what citizens and voters in the European Union can do to help nature and nature conservation efforts. Spoiler alert: we’re not going to tell you who to vote for and it turns out there are more ways to get involved than only through casting votes. That is not to say, of course, that your democratic privileges (duties?) are not important.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the individual participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any organisation. The participants are expressing their personal opinions and perspectives.Subscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and FacebookMentioned in this episode:DisclaimerThe views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the individual participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any organisation. The participants are expressing their personal opinions and perspectives.
169: Species Reintroductions
Feb 6 2024
169: Species Reintroductions
Species reintroductions, often in the context of rewilding, is a topic that we frequently discuss on this podcast. It is also fiercely debated on social media. I have been asked more than once about my views and opinions on this topic. Do I support species reintroductions? Well, it depends. In this episode, I’m going to break down my take on species reintroductions, the good, the bad and the ugly - as the saying goes. It is another in the series of solo episodes that I’m going to publish this year. In those I present the views that I have developed after many years of making this podcast which include not only conversations with experts but also attendance at conferences and reading countless books on these subjects. You can treat those as bonus episodes. The episodes where I interview scientists, conservationists and people with a love for nature and the outdoors are still coming on a fortnightly schedule.If you’re interested in hearing more from me, have a suggestion for future episodes or want to leave feedback, please contact me through the contact form. If you’re an event organiser and would like me to speak at your event, go and check out the following link.Further reading:Nourishment: What Animals Can Teach Us about Rediscovering Our Nutritional WisdomRestoring the Wild: True Stories of Rewilding Britain’s Skies, Woods and WaterwaysAnthropogenic food subsidies hinder the ecological role of wolves: Insights for conservation of apex predators in human-modified landscapes - ScienceDirectGolden jackal expansion in northernmost Europe: records in Finland | Mammalian BiologySubscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and FacebookTommy’s Outdoors is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.co.uk
168: Coexistence with Wolves in Estonia with Helen Arusoo
Jan 30 2024
168: Coexistence with Wolves in Estonia with Helen Arusoo
On my podcast, we talk a lot about coexistence with large carnivores and the challenges it poses. Some of those challenges might seem insurmountable to some. To shed some light on overcoming these hurdles, I contacted Helen Arusoo, an Estonian nature journalist and the leader of the National Animal Working Group. In this conversation, we talk about how Estonia overcame these hurdles and created something that I would consider the gold standard of coexistence with large carnivores.Unsurprisingly, the majority of our time was spent discussing wolves as they seem to be the most difficult carnivore species to coexist with, at least in the northern hemisphere. However, we did discuss other large carnivores like bears too. Our conversation focused mostly on social and cultural factors. We also touched on the European Commission's proposal to lower the protection status of wolves, something we’ve discussed extensively in one of the previous episodes.It was a wonderful conversation and I enjoyed speaking with Helen. Her profound understanding of the challenges of coexistence is impressive. She presented a deeply thought-out perspective and I can only wish that more people who care about wolves could learn from her experience and the Estonian model of coexistence with large carnivores.Subscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and Facebook
164: Shotgun Conservationist with Brant MacDuff
Dec 6 2023
164: Shotgun Conservationist with Brant MacDuff
The story of Brant MacDuff, the author of the book under the title “The Shotgun Conservationist: Why Environmentalists Should Love Hunting” is in many ways similar to mine. We were both born and raised in the city without any contact or access to hunting. We overcame not insignificant obstacles to get into hunting later in life and both of us decided to share this experience with others who might want to do the same but don’t know where to start. Both Brant and I also understood how important but counterintuitive the connection between hunting and wildlife conservation is.As you know, I’ve created a downloadable guide on how to get started with deer hunting in Ireland and the topic of the science of wildlife conservation is literally in the title of this podcast. Brant, achieved both of those goals in one go by writing his book. There are, of course, differences between us. For one, Brant lives in the USA where the connection between hunting and conservation is more direct than in Europe. He also started in his youth as an anti-hunter, something which I never was. Nevertheless, while reading Brant’s book and then chatting with him on this podcast, I undeniably felt that we have a lot in common.The Shotgun Conservationist is one of those books that I would definitely recommend, not only to those who want to try hunting, but also to those who are open-minded enough to explore why so many counterintuitively repeat the mantra of “hunting is conservation”. Finally, despite the realities of hunting, conservation and the public perception of hunting being different in the US compared to Europe, it fascinates me how many of those themes are shared across the globe.Enjoy our conversation and after you’ve listened to it, go ahead and buy the book using the provided link. This way you’ll not only treat yourself to a fun and thoughtful book, but you’ll also support my podcast as I will get a small commission from every sale. Of course, the price you pay won’t be affected.The Shotgun Conservationist: Why Environmentalists Should Love HuntingSubscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and FacebookTommy’s Outdoors is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.co.uk Mentioned in this episode:DOWNLOAD:
163: The EU Review of Wolf Protection Status
Nov 21 2023
163: The EU Review of Wolf Protection Status
The European Commission is deliberating on lowering the protection status of wolves in the EU. It seems like this decision has been taken after the European Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen’s pony was killed by wolves. Is this really the reason for what many have dubbed “a new European wolf hunt”? To unpack this issue I talked to environmentalists, farmers, top-tier scientists and last but not least, hunters.Our guests are a wildlife biologist, Professor John Linnell, a goat breeder, Bruno Lecomte, a social scientist, ​​Professor Erica von Essen, an environmentalist, the Head of EU Policy at BirdLife International, Ariel Brunner and, last but not least, the Secretary General of the European Federation for Hunting and Conservation, Dr David Scallan. Special thanks to hunting journalist and blogger Denis Plat for his help in ensuring that opinions from rural France were voiced.While making this episode I recorded many hours of material and understandably not all of it made it into the episode. If you would be interested in listening to the individual interviews with the guests in this podcast, please register your interest by clicking here.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the individual participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any organisation. The participants are expressing their personal opinions and perspectives.European Predation MapThe Commission's InvitationAttitudes towards returning wolves (Canis lupus) in Germany: Exposure, information sources and trust matter - ScienceDirectFACE | Changes to the protection status of wolves? European Commission launches new phaseSubscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and Facebook
162: Sheep, Soil and Biodiversity with Suzanna Crampton
Nov 7 2023
162: Sheep, Soil and Biodiversity with Suzanna Crampton
The impact of farming on nature is one of the most contested subjects. The negative impact on biodiversity and soil health is juxtaposed with food security and benefits to certain species of wildlife. But does it have to be one or the other? Join me for the conversation with Suzanna Crampton who is one of the most recognisable figures in Irish agriculture. She graduated from Sterling College in Vermont, where she studied agricultural and environmental sciences and learned about farming that works with nature, not against it.I was delighted to accept Suzanna’s invitation to her farm to record this episode in person rather than online like most of the episodes. We started the day with a walk around the farm where she shared her encyclopedic knowledge of nature, explaining how the lifecycles of different species of plants and animals create complex natural processes. I also had the opportunity to meet the 'girls,' as Suzanna fondly refers to her famous flock of dark brown Zwartbles sheep.It would likely take a substantial blog post to describe all the wonderful and interesting things that Suzanna showed me on her farm before we sat down in her office to record the podcast. It would take another blog post to talk about Suzanna’s many other talents, as she’s also an accomplished writer, photographer and woollen blanket designer, among other things. After listening to this episode I encourage you to visit the Zwartbles Ireland website where you can learn more about Suzanna’s farm and her work.Subscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and Facebook
161: Archery Insights with Jim Clark
Oct 25 2023
161: Archery Insights with Jim Clark
This episode is a real treat for all those who are interested in bowhunting, bowhunting culture and the ethics of bowhunting compared to rifle hunting. Everything sprinkled with a healthy dose of hunting stories.—It feels like I’m one of the only very few who talks about bowhunting with European listeners in mind. Indeed, I would like to see hunting with archery tackle being legalised and popularised on the old continent. In my view, the notions that it’s inhumane or somehow unethical are ill-advised and plain wrong. It is especially disturbing when such unwise opinions are expressed with confidence by hunters or veterinary practitioners who have no experience or previous exposure to bowhunting.To talk about these matters I’m joined by expert bowhunter Jim Clark. In our conversation, Jim shares a wealth of knowledge about bowhunting as well as some of his personal stories. As always I didn’t shy away from asking him hard questions to tease out the potential downsides of using archery tackle over firearms.It was a thoroughly enjoyable conversation and it only made me want to try my hand at bowhunting even more. I will keep talking about hunting with archery tackle to at least provoke a constructive discussion among European hunters and hunting organisations alike. If you would like to see bowhunting legalised, please leave a comment. What are your thoughts?Subscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and FacebookMentioned in this episode:The Hunter Conservationist Podcast brings you nuanced content about conservation, science and responsible hunting in Canada, so you can stay topped up on issues concerning your outdoor, hunting and fishing lifestyle, stay current on the latest in wildlife conservation, science and responsible hunting and be entertained by conversations with intellectual thinkers.The Hunter Conservationist PodcastDOWNLOAD:How to Get Started in Deer Hunting in Ireland
160: Safari Club International with Ben Cassidy
Oct 11 2023
160: Safari Club International with Ben Cassidy
Today, we continue the exploration of the public perception of hunting, the issue of social license to hunt and some current topics related to hunting. Certain issues such as the use of lead in hunting ammunition or the attempts to ban the import of certain animal parts, aka trophy import ban, often hit the headlines. And there is no better person to talk about it than Ben Cassidy who is the Executive Vice President for International Government and Public Affairs at Safari Club International.This episode also serves as a great introduction to the SCI for those who might not be that familiar with this organisation. That could be particularly relevant to my European listeners who might have heard about SCI but don’t know much about the organisation and their work. One thing is for sure, whether it’s North America, Europe or anywhere else in the world, hunting is facing the same challenges and learning how hunters in different parts of the world are dealing with them is beneficial to all.Subscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and FacebookMentioned in this episode:DOWNLOAD:How to Get Started in Deer Hunting in IrelandThe Hunter Conservationist Podcast brings you nuanced content about conservation, science and responsible hunting in Canada, so you can stay topped up on issues concerning your outdoor, hunting and fishing lifestyle, stay current on the latest in wildlife conservation, science and responsible hunting and be entertained by conversations with intellectual thinkers.The Hunter Conservationist Podcast
159: Polar Bears in a Warming World with Andrew Derocher
Sep 26 2023
159: Polar Bears in a Warming World with Andrew Derocher
This episode will answer all your questions about polar bears — including those you didn’t know you had. Our guest is Professor Andrew Derocher from the Department of Biological Sciences at the University of Alberta who specialises in ecology, conservation, and management of large Arctic mammals with a particular focus on polar bears. The subjects discussed include the limiting and regulating factors of polar bear populations, habitat use, predator-prey relationships, the effects of climate change as well as the accumulation of toxic chemicals in bears' bodies. We also explore the issue of polar bear hybridisation with brown bears and how this might impact their population. We ended our conversation with an attempt to predict the future of polar bears in the rapidly warming world.You may also be interested in checking out my blog: “Are Polar Bears Going Extinct or Are Their Populations Doing Better Than Ever?”Subscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and FacebookMentioned in this episode:The Hunter Conservationist Podcast brings you nuanced content about conservation, science and responsible hunting in Canada, so you can stay topped up on issues concerning your outdoor, hunting and fishing lifestyle, stay current on the latest in wildlife conservation, science and responsible hunting and be entertained by conversations with intellectual thinkers.The Hunter Conservationist Podcast
158: Wildlife In The Balance with Simon Mustoe
Sep 13 2023
158: Wildlife In The Balance with Simon Mustoe
In his book, “Wildlife in The Balance”, expert ecologist Simon Mustoe lays out the case for animals being the most important ingredient of the ecosystem. He outlines the critical importance of keeping the planet’s energy inputs and outputs in balance and the role animals play in ensuring this balance. This connection of ecology with physics is one of the most unique and forward-thinking aspects of this book. To extend this thought, the book contains one of the most comprehensive and compelling explanations of why the climate crisis and biodiversity crisis are in fact one and the same — neither can be solved separately.This is one of the most thought-provoking books I have read. Although I don’t agree with everything in the book, I can overlook my disagreements because of how brilliant some parts that I do agree with are. So I couldn’t wait to sit down with the author, expert ecologist, Simon Mustoe for a chat about his views and, of course, about the book.Buy "Wildlife in the Balance" here.Subscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and FacebookTommy’s Outdoors is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.co.uk
157: Is The Red Wolf a Real Species? Conversation with Peter Brewitt
Aug 30 2023
157: Is The Red Wolf a Real Species? Conversation with Peter Brewitt
In our conversation with Peter Brewitt from the University of California, Santa Cruz (currently the University of Cumbria) we dive into the history of the species as we know it, and their current conservation status and distribution. We discuss the genetic diversity of canids on the American continent, and why attempts to recover red wolves might be an endeavour that goes against nature and as such could be pointless, as it would amount to working against the natural processes.In the second half of the show, we switch gears and talk about Peter’s fascinating research into different storylines related to the red wolf species identity presented in online discussions. This is an especially interesting piece of research for conservation-minded folks who spend long hours discussing species’ conservation on social media. The paper that Peter co-authored is titled “Red Wolf Science and Identity Storylines in an Online Discursive Community” and you can request it from the author, here.Subscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Recommended Books: tommysoutdoors.com/booksMerch: tommysoutdoors.com/shopFollow Tommy's Outdoors on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and FacebookMentioned in this episode:The Hunter Conservationist Podcast brings you nuanced content about conservation, science and responsible hunting in Canada, so you can stay topped up on issues concerning your outdoor, hunting and fishing lifestyle, stay current on the latest in wildlife conservation, science and responsible hunting and be entertained by conversations with intellectual thinkers.The Hunter Conservationist Podcast