Inner Archeology with Sarah Turner & Emily Pennystone

Sarah Turner & Emily Pennystone

Ready to excavate beliefs and experiences that create your current reality? Each Wednesday on Inner Archeology, Sarah Turner & Emily Pennystone use personal experiences and stories as a mirror for better understanding, epiphany, healing, and humor. You can expect raw, relevant, and vulnerable conversations as these two friends push back on judgement, guilt, and shame – all for the purpose of being lighter and freer with each passing year. read less
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Season Finale: Reflections on One Year of Inner Archeology – and What’s to Come
Feb 22 2023
Season Finale: Reflections on One Year of Inner Archeology – and What’s to Come
The finale of season 1 of Inner Archeology is here! Emily and Sarah look back at over one year of podcasting and share their reflections on the journey, what they have learned, and what’s making them excited about the future.   Key Points In Episode: The first season finale of Inner Archeology is here, and it’s been a fun one-year ride! Time for some reflections.Emily has enjoyed how raw and honest the whole experience has been.How many podcast hosts cry before hopping on a call to start recording an episode? Emily and Sarah do! #PodcastersLifeOne of the things Sarah learned during this journey has been putting more of her personal story out there and feeling good about it.For Emily, it wasn’t easy to put herself out there talking about religious trauma – but the emails and Instagram DMs she got after the episode was published made it all worth it. #ReflectionsEmily shares that what’s been so valuable about sharing stories is that we love finding ourselves in other people, and that gives us permission to just be ourselves… Do you agree?The podcast had an impact on the Your Way to Freedom annual event too, because it felt as if everyone felt comfortable going deeper.Sarah opens up about having felt like a bad friend lately, and talks about what her birth class teacher calls ‘the red thread back to self’.Seeing Ben as a dad is something Sarah is really looking forward to.Who says that being a mother means you’ll be sleep deprived and feel miserable? Definitely not Sarah! She isn’t afraid of all of that, not one bit.Being sleep deprived isn’t easy but your mindset about being sleep deprived makes the whole situation what it is, says Emily. Do you feel the same?Season 2 of Inner Archeology is going to be great! Make sure to stay in the loop to learn more about it as soon as it launches.   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube
Staying True to Yourself by Changing Your Beliefs
Feb 15 2023
Staying True to Yourself by Changing Your Beliefs
Sarah and Emily take a deep dive into the world of judgment, belief, and change. In this episode, they talk about how your beliefs are formed, what has an impact on them, and what to consider and do to change your beliefs and achieve positive change.   Key Points In Episode: This episode of Inner Archeology is the second to last episode of the season because Sarah’s going on maternity leave – but don’t worry, the show will be back in a few months!Plus, you can get more exclusive content on the Inner Archeology Patreon page.Sarah feels that the desire to appear consistent is a core human desire.Want to be open to changing your beliefs? Then, you need to have conscious awareness of that, no doubt. Because yes, you CAN change your mind.Super interesting point by Emily: ‘if there’s a belief about your identity, you’ll automatically just reinforce that. Even if it’s complete B.S., you’ll double down just to preserve the sense of identity and familiarity.’ Do you agree? It’s so empowering to bring your beliefs and to have conscious awareness of the fact that they can change – and you have the power to decide and change them.Glennon Doyle is someone who has had the guts to change her beliefs and to do so publicly. Look at her for inspiration.Many of the beliefs Sarah has changed are paired with judgments, ideas, or expectations she had. Before the beliefs could shift, those ideas and expectations had to change first.For most of her life, Sarah didn’t want to have kids… and look at her now, about to become a mother!Sarah has stopped making 5-year plans because so much can change in a year (just look at the last couple of years).If you’re trying to figure out what your beliefs are, make sure to make a distinction between beliefs that were just handed to you and those you have intentionally chosen to adopt.Emily shares that she had to earn the right to participate in her creative expression because it was a luxury, not something she necessarily deserved. #ChangedBeliefSarah had judgments toward pole dancing, thinking it wasn’t a hard thing to do… turns out she was wrong.Ever felt like working out is punishment? Or that you work out because you don’t like your body? Emily thought the same but, by her own admission, things couldn’t be further from the truth.   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Glennon Doyle The Artist’s Way: A Spiritual Path to Higher Creativity by Julia Cameron
Lessons from Stutz Pt. 2
Feb 8 2023
Lessons from Stutz Pt. 2
Sarah and Emily continue their conversation about Jonah Hill’s documentary Stutz (if you haven’t already, check out the latest episode of Inner Archeology for part 1). In this episode, they talk about some powerful therapeutic modalities and tools from Stutz: part X, the string of pearls, and your shadow. Key Points In Episode: This episode of Inner Archeology continues the conversation around Jonah Hill’s documentary Stutz that Emily and Sarah began to discuss last week. They now focus on therapeutic modalities.Emily just L-O-V-E-S how visual Stutz’s therapy tools are – particularly the little note cards with visual representations he draws, despite having Parkinson’s, and that he gives to all of his clients.A big #truth from Emily: ‘Having visual components is an incredibly powerful tool to make an abstract concept more tangible in somebody’s mind.’ Do you agree?The string of pearls is another powerful tool Stutz uses. Each pearl represents the next action you take in your life, be it getting out of bed, or launching a business.This is the important part. The pearls all hold equal value and the same weight, no action is more important than the other! That’s why it’s important to just take action, even an imperfect one.Emily thinks that if you were to assign the same value to each action in your life, you’d be able to remove a ton of self-judgment. Agree or disagree?We tend to evaluate our days based on the “big things” we accomplished without thinking that things like getting out of bed or drinking water can be what was needed to help you move forward so that in the future you could have those big accomplishments. #QuoteOfTheDayIt’s about moving the storyline forward (yup, it’s as simple as that!). You can’t have future pearls without these ones.Sarah and Emily talk about the role that simple little actions like drinking a can of Coke play in life.Think about it for a second: if something is so meaningful and carries the same weight, then it’s meaningless. Every action holds the same value as the next one.Part X is another of Stutz’s therapeutic modalities. It’s a very judgmental part of you that keeps you small, a voice of impossibility. But at the same time, its negativity propels you into growth.There’s a quote that really stood out for Emily: ‘The highest creative expression for a human is being able to create something new right in the face of adversity.’For Sarah, nothing is more empowering than creating in the face of adversity… is that the same for you?Emily believes that you can reframe your relationship with Part X and that it doesn’t have to be so abrasive to you.Part X is different from the shadow, which is the part of your life that you were ashamed of (and that made Sarah burst into tears!).For Stutz, it isn’t just about acknowledging your shadow but it’s about understanding and trying to love it too.Have you signed up for the Inner Archeology Patreon page, yet? There may be some meditation with Emily’s shadow coming soon on there!Emily and Sarah discuss shadow work and inner child work – and their potential correlation.   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Previous episode - Lessons From Stutz Pt. 1 Jonah Hill’s Stutz  Edge of Tomorrow The Slight Edge: Turning Simple Disciplines Into Massive Success and Happiness by Jeff Olson The Shadow Work Workbook: Self-Care Exercises for Healing Your Trauma and Exploring Your Hidden Self by Jor-Er Caraballo Genesis music video by Grimes
Lessons from Stutz Pt. 1
Feb 1 2023
Lessons from Stutz Pt. 1
Sarah and Emily share some of the biggest takeaways they got from Jonah Hill’s documentary Stutz. Check this episode out and learn about the 3 aspects of life, the pyramid to activate your life, how 85% of issues people deal with can be solved, and whether it’s better to listen to or get advice from your friends. Key Points In Episode: This episode of Inner Archeology revolves around the documentary Sarah and Emily brought up in the last episode – Jonah Hill’s Stutz – and around what isn’t covered in Stutz.Sarah shares a #truth. She would have never watched Stutz if it wasn’t for the many friends suggesting she watches it.Emily talks about how Jonah Hill’s therapist Stutz, who appears in the documentary, is unconventional and about his relationship with Jonah Hill.Give yourself permission to be creative in whatever work you do! This is one of Emily’s biggest takeaways from Stutz.Have heard of the activation of your life force? It’s a pyramid that has your relationship with your body at the bottom, your relationship with other people at the center, and your relationship with yourself at the top.Use the pyramid whenever you’re having it rough. Let it be your guide and start from the bottom: focus on your relationship with your body. #PersonalGrowthDid you know that addressing your relationship with your body can typically help you solve 85% of the issues you’re dealing with? That’s something Stutz shared in the documentary.If you have had experiences with therapy, and not-so-good ones, then you can sympathize with Sarah.She has had a ton of experience with therapy, most of which hasn’t been that beneficial. Her solution is to actually do things with your body rather than just sit around and try to “figure your brain out”.Question for you: do you listen to your friends or get advice from them? And if you have a therapist, what do you do – listen or get advice from them?Jonah Hill prefers to listen to his friends and get advice from his therapist (though, unfortunately, friends typically want to give advice and therapists tend to just listen).Another #GoldenNugget from the Stutz documentary: there are 3 aspects of reality that you can’t escape from, that are always going to be present – pain, confusion, and constant work.Emily recently got to teach her daughter that.Make sure to come back for the next episode of Inner Archeology to hear about more tools from Stutz, like Emily’s favorite one: the string of pearls!   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Previous episode - Setting Intentions Jonah Hill’s Stutz  Girl, Wash Your Face by Rachel Hollis
Setting Intentions
Jan 25 2023
Setting Intentions
Sarah and Emily continue their reflections on what last year was all about and they discuss their life goals for 2023. Listen to hear about what they want more of in the new year, what has been holding them back from achieving those things, and what their top three priorities for 2023 are going to be. Key Points In Episode: In the last episode of Inner Archeology, Emily and Sarah reflected back on 2022 and talked about making active choices about how you look at the past.Emily opens up about what she wants more of in the new year: safety, stability, and security – a strong foundation altogether.What does stability mean to you? For Sarah, different people have different definitions (she and Ben, for example, have different definitions of stability).For the new year, Sarah wants a great sense of calm because things will get more complex. #NewYearResolutionsSarah admits that she had to relearn that ‘Calm isn’t boring.’ Do you agree?Emily and Sarah address the questions ‘How can I be more fully me in 2023?’ and ‘What has been holding you back?’.Emily wants to bring horseback riding back! It was part of her teenage years but it wasn’t there for the last 15 years. She wants to change that.Another thing that she always wanted to do? Take jazz piano lessons. #GoalsThere are certain things that Emily and Ben have helped Sarah realize – and she wants to focus on those in 2023.Sarah had been thinking about the baby, all the logistics, about Ben’s identity as a father but she hadn’t thought about her identity as a mother until she saw a necklace (saying ‘Mama’) her sister gave her as a gift.Are you about to become a mother? Think about what you want to be as a mom but also what you DON’T want to be. #MotherhoodEmily and Sarah share their top three priorities for 2023.Here are some questions for you to reflect on (feel free to go through them with someone you love): What are your intentions for the new year?What do you want to cultivate more of in 2023?What has been holding you back from achieving that?What are your top three priorities for the new year?   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Previous episode - Reflecting on 2022
Reflecting on 2022
Jan 18 2023
Reflecting on 2022
What happens when you’re aware of the pain you create for yourself through mental images? And how do you choose to remember last year? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily look back at their 2022 and share their goals for the new year, including Sarah’s willingness to embrace simplicity and Emily’s strive to cultivate intentionally – plus, a couple of tips from Jonah Hill’s new documentary Stutz. Key Points In Episode: If you’re afraid of running out of things to cover as a content creator, don’t sweat it! As Sarah says, you won’t run out of things to say (trust her, she’s been a copywriter for 10+ years).Sarah’s mantra for 2023 is ‘I’m not going to unnecessarily mentally torture myself.’Being aware of the fact that we often create pain through the images we create for ourselves is powerful. Keep that in mind the next time it happens.For Emily there are two layers: it’s about stopping the pain that comes as a result of the thoughts and stories we create, and the second is about actually cultivating joy, healing, and trust through our way of thinking.What does Sarah think about simplicity? ‘It’s booooriiiing!’ However, focusing on doing less and simplifying things is what her next few months are going to be about.Emily has been in survival mode for the last two years and she wants to change things in 2023. She wants to raise the baseline of the overall quality of her life, as well as cultivating music and art in her life. #LifeGoalsAs you’re thinking about your goals for the new year, try to be specific. If you’re thinking about baselines, try to define that as much as you can. Are you referring to health? To nutrition? To working out? To something else?Btw, specific baselines are covered in Sarah’s upcoming book! #ComingSoonSarah brings up a big lesson from Jonah Hill’s documentary Stutz: always work on your life force by starting on your relationship with your body.An unexpected joy for Emily last year? Dancing! For Sarah, there are two: how her relationship with Ben has unfolded (which surprises her all the time), and having a ton of F-U-N doing an event with Emily.For 2022, Sarah chooses to remember it as the year where she stopped being small in business and in life. For Emily, that’s TBD.Another golden nugget from Jonah Hill’s Stutz: pain, uncertainty, and working on yourself are three constants that are always there. The key is to continue to move forward and even embrace them.Emily said it: ‘It’s never all dark. Even when darkness seems everywhere, there’s ALWAYS some intrinsic light in it.’ #InspiringWords   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Sarah’s YouTube channel 30 Rock Daughter Drink This Water: A Book of Sacred Love by Jaiya John Jonah Hill’s Stutz
Funny Ways Scarcity Shows Up
Jan 11 2023
Funny Ways Scarcity Shows Up
What’s scarcity all about? And how can you make sure that, paradoxically, it isn’t something that takes away, but rather, adds and gives? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily talk about the role of scarcity within their personal and professional life, and they share some of their experiences with scarcity. Key Points In Episode: There are some fun “roasting bits” coming soon, so consider subscribing to the show! Plus, there are more hilarious bonus episodes available at Patreon.com/InnerArcheology.Have you ever found yourself in a hotel room dying for some water but debate about taking the one from the minibar (clearly overpriced!) or get it elsewhere?When you’re in the car and the AC is on, do you go for windows closed or open? During summer, Emily looooves to drive with her windows down and the AC blasting!Emily opens up about her “fruit scarcity” and “fruit hoarding” issue, and what that led to when she was living in Scotland.Emily and Sarah talk about having scarcity toward things – having them but not really using them…Sarah and Emily share the journal scarcity “episode” they recently had.You know the feeling about something that feels irreplaceable? When you think about it, and you think hard, you may end up noticing a sign of scarcity and then realizing it wasn’t irreplaceable. #FoodForThoughtSarah and Emily go over embracing the feeling of scarcity, what Sarah’s experience with a bad accountant led to, and the question ‘If I lost everything you owned, how would I be?’Stay away from scarcity dating!   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Shanola journals Moleskin journals
Afraid To Call Yourself An Entrepreneur?
Jan 4 2023
Afraid To Call Yourself An Entrepreneur?
How do you approach archetypes? And how do you deal with labels: do you own them or are you afraid of them? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily talk about the role labels play, how they go about them, and how to avoid having your life influenced by other people’s archetypes.   Key Points In Episode: Have you ever noticed how when you’re in a challenging situation, and you come out on the other side and you’ve grown, you think to yourself, ‘I did it! I’ve mastered it!’ Then before you know it, you’re in that situation again? #That’sCalledLifeAssigning new “labels” to ourselves is a process and it takes time. Sarah shares the example of the students in her course.Think about it: you may be a writer but also an entrepreneur, a CEO, or something else. We tend to have these associations and create fantasy scenarios solely based on small snippets of information we’ve gathered from TV or people in our lives.Emily shares that we often look at the negative aspects of these archetypes and end up having a deep-soul identity crisis. Even though it’s other people who assign you a label, you’re the one that gets to define what it actually looks like for you!As Sarah puts it, it’s the archetypes that you’ve created in your mind that make you want to associate or distance yourself from a particular label.Is there any label you’ve been “allergic” to? If so, try to ask where your thoughts about it actually come from. Seeing any difference now?Sarah and Emily touch upon how embracing certain archetypes can impact you, as well as Imposter Syndrome and the complexity and layers an archetype may have.Sarah shares a story about a recent conversation with a friend of Ben’s where she ended up playing dumb (and wasn’t happy about it!).Emily talks about a very specific way in which we sometimes sabotage our growth curve.How do you feel when people ask you, ‘What do you do?’? Emily and Sarah address that question.   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Previous episode - Holding Space For Each Other’s Joy
Holding Space For Each Other's Joy
Dec 28 2022
Holding Space For Each Other's Joy
It’s easy to say no when you’re down or to feel sad, angry, or bitter when thinking about past hardships… but what if you said YES! to more joy? And what if you did that even while you were in a dark place? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily talk about their personal growth: going through divorces, looking at past mistakes, and how to approach life for more happiness and positivity.   Key Points In Episode: Has it ever happened to you to feel like you wouldn’t like to share your joy with someone else because you know they’re having a hard time? If you’re feeling down, don’t be bitter toward someone who’s feeling happy!Sarah has been impressed by Emily’s ability to be able to share some joy and laugh with Sarah despite having a hard time. Think that Emily was able to wedding dress shopping with Sarah while being in the thick of a heartbreak..!The end of the year always causes reflections, and the new year is always an exciting time. What are you excited about for the new year?Emily has often thought of herself as a thought leader and mindset coach but this isn’t something that will happen in her future… it’s happening right now!Emily and Sarah talk about one of the biggest challenges in both of their lives: going through a divorce – and how they experienced it in different ways.It can be healing for us to see someone succeed and be happy, whether we have a big role, a small role, or no role at all in what they have gone through.Every now and then you may think about your past and may feel different ways: sadness, self-loathe, anger, frustration… but you can also look at it as an opportunity to appreciate how far you’ve come and how much you’ve grown.When Sarah went through a divorce, she didn’t really have anyone to be there for her and to give her support.Sarah has some advice for anyone going through a divorce right now: ‘Get in touch with your values and behave in a way that when you look back you’ll be proud of your behavior because divorce is just an ugly process that often brings out the worst in people.’It’s not easy but Emily is so right: ‘Even when things aren’t easy, I’ll grow through my experiences.’Holding space for other people’s joy while you’re in a dark place is worth it. #QuoteOfTheDaySarah believes that she could only do part of her healing by herself. The other part required another person, a partner, to show up for her.   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube
An Unexpected Reason Why Change Can Feel Scary
Dec 21 2022
An Unexpected Reason Why Change Can Feel Scary
Do the maladaptive coping mechanisms you developed in childhood have to define you into adulthood, or can you break free from these patterns and beliefs to achieve personal growth? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily talk about the after-effects of challenging childhood dynamics, generational differences among parents, and how you can foster emotional intelligence and be a bridge between generations. Key Points In Episode: Inner Archeology has been going for almost a year now, woo-hoo!The topic of today’s episode has been coming up a lot in conversations Emily has been having lately – and it’s something that applies pretty much across the board.And it’s that most of us didn’t have an emotionally healthy upbringing. At that time, we didn’t have the skills nor understanding, while our parents’ generation lacked the awareness, skills and tools.Sarah points out that the fact that very few of us were raised in healthy homes means that we’re collectively shifting toward strengthening emotional intelligence and awareness. Do you agree?Our generation serves as the bridge because it experienced that childhood and is now focused on creating a different environment for our children. #WeTheHealingBridgeSpeaking of generations, there’s also a resentment toward our generation, an inability to accept the fact that our generation acknowledges that some childhood things weren’t healthy.True, the older generation may have 50-60 years of coping with things a certain way, but when they’re open to embrace vulnerability and growth to achieve change - talk about personal growth…simply inspiring!Some people may go through an identity crisis because they have attached their identity to manipulative coping mechanisms. #FactsSarah shares that whenever she’s able to identify psychological human behavior and tendencies, it’s easier for her to push back on them.Sarah loves seeing Emily coach people and remind them that ‘Change doesn’t have to be an all or nothing thing. You can try on beliefs and new ways of doing things.’ #QuoteOfTheDayEmily said it best: ‘The ones who are successful are the ones who experienced fear and resistance but they did things anyway.’Confidence comes from taking action, says Sarah…agree or disagree?Emily used to be someone who said ‘byeee!’ as soon as she felt as if she outgrew a friend, whereas Sarah feels she has a high tolerance for discomfort and uncomfortable conversations.   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Recent IA episode - Generational Evolution MasterYourFate90.com (Emily’s coaching program) Kevin James Thorton Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One by Joe Dispenza
Exploring Psychedelics Pt. 2
Dec 14 2022
Exploring Psychedelics Pt. 2
What could a 10-minute DMT trip do? And what happens when things go wrong with marijuana (aka: cannabis)? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily continue their talk on psychedelic drugs and talk about an eye-opening DMT trip Emily went on, where the fear of certain drugs comes from, and share their cannabis mistake stories.   Key Points In Episode: This episode is part 2 of Emily’s and Sarah’s conversation about the benefits of psychedelic drugs.If Emily had to pick a psychedelic drug today, it would be DMT… What about your pick?Emily would pick it because a DMT trip lasts for about 10 minutes and there’s no comedown and nothing afterwards. With mushrooms, on the other hand, you’re “committed” for several hours and there’s some tricky time afterwards.Emily did DMT before she did mushrooms, and she did it twice.Did you know that everyone who has taken DMT says to have experienced the same onset?There’s a clear difference between psilocybin and DMT. With the first, there are some thematic things – like feeling connected to the earth – but the experience can change from person to person. With psilocybin, on the other hand, there’s a sort of structure to it.One major difference Emily experienced with DMT compared to other drugs is that she didn’t feel loopy with her thoughts, rather lucid the whole time. It was a lucid, cerebral experience.Have you ever heard of The Dome? That’s what someone on a DMT trip goes into (you can even Google Dome to see artistic representations of it).During her DMT trip, Emily saw Thoth (ancient Egypt’s god of the moon). Oh, in case you’re wondering, she knows this because of doing a Google search later on. #JustSayin’As Thoth approached Emily, who felt a bit uneasy because she didn’t have anything to offer, he telepathically said to her and kept repeating, ‘You’re enough just as you are.’Emily then felt Thoth pass through her, and she ended up in what she believes was nirvana, a little slice of heaven. Emily’s friends, who saw her go on her DMT trip, told her she was sobbing and kept repeating, ‘Ok, ok’ to Thoth.Sarah admits that she would be afraid to do DMT because she doesn’t like the idea of visuals…what about you?Sarah believes that the time to try ayahuasca, psilocybin or anything else is something that should come to you naturally. You shouldn’t feel nervous about it or forced into it.For Sarah and Emily, the fear of trying certain drugs like LSD and acid typically comes from being afraid of losing your mind. Is that something you’re thinking too?Did you know that, the first time she did LSD, Sarah got pranked by a friend of hers who knew she was doing it for the first time but pretended not to be himself? #HiDylanEmily also had a psychedelic experience with marijuana – but it happened by mistake because she smoked too much of it. She smoked a 50-milligram joint a friend accidentally gave her (for reference, when smoking weed, Sarah would smoke 2.5 milligrams and Emily around 5!).She got stuck in the bathroom for what felt like half an hour because she didn’t have the energy to head back to the living room and, when she did, she stayed in a fetal position while feeling as if she was having a panic attack. #NotFunAtAllMost people who smoke weed do have a mistake story… True?Sarah has given up smoking weed, she’s more into edibles nowadays.As for her weed mistake story, it happened during her senior year of high school, toward the end of the year. She ate crumbs out of a bag of weed cookies and…let’s just say she wasn’t able to walk out of class on her own!Are you a creative person? If so, know that marijuana has helped Emily with her creative process because it has gotten her out of her usual way of thinking (actually, that’s how she got to Inner Archeology as the name of this show!).   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Part 1 of Exploring Psychedelics Thoth Andrew Huberman podcast episode - The Effects of Cannabis (Marijuana) on the Brain & Body
Exploring Psychedelics Pt. 1
Dec 7 2022
Exploring Psychedelics Pt. 1
Psychedelic drugs: a dangerous thing to avoid at all cost or a life-altering resource? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily talk about psychedelic drugs, share their experiences with them and go over how they both went on an exploration journey with mushrooms. Key Points In Episode: This episode is part 1 of Emily’s and Sarah’s conversation about the benefits of psychedelic drugs.Psychedelics were massively vilified by our parents’ generation but they now seem more open to the idea that they could be acceptable. Sarah’s mom even jokes about going on ayahuasca retreats! LOLEmily had her first experience with Silybin in her 30s – she hadn’t done anything prior to that. She did a massive mushroom trip that ended up being life-altering, in a really good way.When the time is right, Sarah would like to be able to have conversations about drugs with her kids because that’s something that wasn’t really talked about before.What about you, would you want to leave your children to figure things out on their own or would you open up to them about them? The world is made of many things, including drugs, alcohol, and sex, so why not talk about them?Emily topped the mushrooms up with a small dose of ecstasy, which led to all sorts of good visuals and her feeling very connected to #MotherEarth. Everything – the sky, ground, etc. – felt very alive and communicative.Mushrooms feel very feminine to Emily, whereas marijuana feels very masculine, energy-wise. Do you agree?Did you know that psychedelic drugs tend to highlight end-of-life stuff? There have been studies showing that.Hearing mushroom stories always makes Sarah giggle because they are so similar even when it’s different people sharing their experiences. #MushroomThoughtsDuring her mushroom trip, Emily felt as if she was embodying the mother of the universe – feeling all of the joy, sorrow, and loss of a mother that had ever existed.There was a freaky moment where Emily felt that each of her friends was her child and they were pulling parts of her body..!Emily realized that what she was experiencing was the epitome of her potential as a mother, making the greatest sacrifice she could make by giving her body to her children to sustain them. She felt so in alignment and as if she was an eternal floating memory.Emily walked away from that experience feeling really connected to the idea that being a mother was something inherent to her whether or not her mother was still on planet Earth.She also felt as if she faced her own death, and it wasn’t scary at all. Though it took her some time to process the whole experience.Sarah has done acid once (#NotHerThing) and mushrooms 4-5 times. Only one mushroom experience was positive while the others weren’t negative but more controlled and in a party setting.She once snapped and wondered whether she was going to lose her mind… and also learned that you shouldn’t look at yourself in the mirror when tripping (oh, and avoid public bathrooms too!) and that she’d rather be immersed in nature.Her first experience doing mushrooms was at Hangout Fest where she swam in the ocean, while her second was in Bali with someone who really knew what they were doing and with a beach and stars as the setting.Sarah’s mushroom trip in Bali was a mile marker that helped her realize that her relationship with her boyfriend at the time needed to come to an end and she felt the universe putting its hands on her cheeks and saying ‘You’re doing great, you’re trying so hard and doing a great job!’.She was immediately released from that relationship, had a massive empathetic growth toward people in her family, her anxiety levels plummeted, and she felt as if the Milky Way was fire, all while listening to some great music.Sarah feels that, in a really weird way, her Bali trip set her up to have a baby. It has been one of the top 3 most important experiences that ever happened in her life.If you’re thinking of going on a psychedelic trip, keep in mind that the people who are around you, the intentions you set, and your surroundings can be the difference between a truly spiritual and revolutionary experience and something uncomfortable.   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Hangout Music Fest
Trust And Risk In Relationship
Nov 30 2022
Trust And Risk In Relationship
Great things and growth happen at the end of your comfort zone… does that apply to relationships too? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily discuss the connection between trust, risk, uncertainty, and safety in relationships – including the role of expectations, the idea of self-trust, and how to approach failed relationships. Key Points In Episode: Have you heard of Emily’s Master Your Fate 90-day program? Learn more about it over at MasterYourFate90.com.Today’s episode is inspired by some of the relationship conversations Emily has been having with her cohort plus some inspiration she got from an Instagram profile: the intersection between trust and risk, safety and uncertainty in relationships.The more trust we develop within ourselves, the more safety we create inside of us and the more capacity we have for risk and uncertainty that are needed to experience joy and beautiful things in life, says Emily. Do you agree?For Sarah, healing comes from relationships. It isn’t just about having trust in yourself…when it comes to relationships, you eventually need to put trust in someone else – hoping they will treat you with respect.What comes to your mind when thinking about self-trust? Do you think it’s about developing trust in yourself by keeping the promises you made? Is it about rooting your identity within yourself instead of on external things? (For Emily, it’s the latter).We often think of failed relationships as failures… but, actually, they can be great sources of self-trust, confidence and self-worth. #PersonalDevelopmentDo you know how we experience growth at the end of our comfort zone? The same can be said for relationships: if you want meaningful and deep relationships, you need to accept a level of risk and discomfort.Sarah shares a story that brings the role of expectations in a relationship into the picture.Both Sarah and Emily think that the way you see whether someone really cares is how they show up, especially in repair. What’s your take?Are you replaying toxic relationships over and over again? Chances are that you have normalized harmful and toxic behavior and have mistaken it for safety. Recognizing this was huge for Sarah.   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube MasterYourFate90.com (Emily’s 90-day program) @QueerCosmos on Instagram Rachel Botsman
Embracing Empathy
Nov 23 2022
Embracing Empathy
Have you ever noticed that when you start seeking external validation you become dependent on it? And how should you approach situations where you’re on the receiving end of not-so-nice behavior or thoughts? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily talk about the repercussions of dealing with hardship, the role of empathy when dealing with people who experience something you have experienced, and who you should actually seek validation from. Key Points In Episode: Today's conversation piggybacks on what Sarah and Emily talked about in the last episode: generational differences when it comes to parenting.Have you ever noticed how, when noticing someone parenting differently than you, certain subconscious thoughts are triggered?When that happens, you start evaluating your own childhood and sometimes this helps you realize that what you experienced wasn’t OK. Sometimes you feel ready to look into it, while sometimes you don’t. That’s OK, don’t be too hard on yourself!Emily shares that, when it comes to experiencing pain and trauma, people tend to fall into one of two camps: those who survived and who are maybe better because of it, and those who went through something painful and they don’t want you to experience the same thing.Sarah sees a third group: people who went through trauma and who stay in touch with the empathy toward the person they used to be when they experienced hardship.Let’s be honest: we all have had situations where something arises and our gut reaction isn’t the nicest. Don’t worry, it happens. Sarah suggests thinking about how you’d like to show up in the world and acting accordingly. #EmbraceEmpathyHas it ever happened to you to have felt resentment toward someone who has got it “easier” than you? Think about your children having access to pretty much anything but yet complain about things you, as a child, would have only dreamed of having…Sarah and Emily go over how Emily dealt with things when she was on the receiving end of Sarah lacking empathy, as well as how to deal with similar situations.When you’re seeking external validation for something that would really need your internal validation you become dependent on constant reassurance. Have trust in yourself, you’ve got this! Most times, your own – internal – validation is all you need. #QuoteOfTheDay   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Previous episode - Generational Evolution
Generational Evolution
Nov 16 2022
Generational Evolution
Being a parent today isn’t the same as it was when the parents were kids. What are some of the aspects parents from different generations had to deal with? Emily and Sarah reflect on the generational evolution of parenting, the role of feelings and why it’s OK to acknowledge that there are some issues in your childhood – without this being a judgment of your parents’ way of parenting. Key Points In Episode: Today's conversation was sparked by a weekend Sarah spent with other women talking about all sorts of things, and comparing their way of conversing and giving advice versus her family – her mom in particular.Do you use TikTok? That’s where Sarah recently found a video that discussed the differences between our generation’s way of parenting and our parents’ generation's way of parenting.The TikTok video kind of made the point of how it must be hard for our parents to see a new generation parenting in a different way, because it can potentially reflect on their parenting, the way they were parented and makes them feel as if they (and their parents) did something wrong.It’s OK to look back at things in your childhood and realize that some things may not have been OK. Remember: you may see this as reflection, conversation and personal growth, while, for your parents, this could be you criticizing, whining and complaining. Don’t forget it!Are you about to become a mother? Keep in mind that your relationship with your mom is about to experience a big shift. It’s normal, though. Most mothers and daughters go through it.Emily believes that there are two ways of looking at things when, as a parent, you realize that your daughter’s way of parenting is different than yours. You either see it as criticism or look at it as ‘I've given my child an opportunity to learn, grow, and do things better than I’ve ever done before.’ Do you agree?For Sarah, this parenting debate is part of the generational evolution that happens… and be ready because it will happen with your daughter too.Is there something that has served as a catalyst for your personal growth? For Emily, that’s realizing that there were issues in her childhood – even though this doesn’t mean that she doesn’t love her parents.As Sarah puts it: ‘You can say something was wrong or wasn’t great for you in your childhood without it necessarily being criticism of your parents per se but more a realization of what happened and they did the best they could with the tools they had. The only example they had was what their parents did.’ #QuoteOfTheDayLet’s be honest: we’ve all unintentionally created harm in somebody else’s life. Being able to look at it without having to feel like a bad person is key.Have you heard of Divorce Is Not the End of the World? Emily talks about what reading it with her daughter has made her realize.Let’s talk about feelings… or let’s… not?!? Unlike today, past generations couldn’t really afford to feel feelings and didn’t have room to talk about them. We’re privileged and we should really value this.   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube TikTok Divorce Is Not the End of the World: Zoe and Evan’s Coping Guide for Kids by Zoe and Evan Stern
Embracing Paradox
Nov 9 2022
Embracing Paradox
This may be news to you… but embracing paradoxes is normal. Actually, even more than that, it’s the key to a happier life! Hear about some paradox examples and learn why having this approach will improve the quality of your life. Key Points In Episode: Today’s episode of Inner Archeology revolves around embodying and holding space for paradox. You’ll hear Emily and Sarah share some paradox examples.Do you think in black and white terms? Emily believes that, by doing that, we sometimes create pain for ourselves because we limit our ability to experience a lot of joy and pleasure in life. Oh, and Sarah sees this as one of the key pieces to happiness.#Fact: embracing paradoxes can help when our mind makes limiting claims. It’s possible to be sad while also experiencing happiness in other areas of your life – even though our brain wouldn’t like for us to feel it, and may make us feel guilty afterward…Sarah thinks that it’s very hard to have a lot of judgment toward other people and genuinely be happy. Do you agree?Another area some people struggle with is when they would like to experience happiness but tread carefully because they don’t want others, who are having it bad, to feel sad or offended by it. An example of this is a woman who’s happy with breastfeeding her baby but limits her joy because breastfeeding can be an issue for so many other women. It's not your fault and you shouldn’t stop feeling happy!Want to know what really pissed Sarah off during the pandemic? The inability of both sides – people pro-vaccines and those against them – to listen to the other side and realize that there were truths on both sides. The saddest part is that, at the end of the day, both sides were focusing on the same thing: avoiding doing something harmful.This is a #BigTruth Sarah shared: “If you’re interested in making real change, the answer isn’t to be angry and yell and people who think differently… It’s about being able to hear different perspectives and have conversations.”This may be tough for you to hear but when you realize that to be human is to be a walking paradox, you’re going to feel lighter and happier in the long run.When you live using a binary way of thinking, where everything that there’s in this world is either what you deem to be good, truthful and valuable or the opposite, you live in a pinhole and constantly feel those things as sort of threatening.On the other hand, when you realize that the world is rich and full of uniqueness, nuances and complexities – including those you don’t fully understand or would follow yourself – and you understand that different things can coexist, you get to live a more liberating, richer, and deeper life.You can be successful while experiencing imposter syndrome or you can be happy while also experiencing some confusion, uncertainty, or anxiety. We’re complex beings and that’s a beautiful thing – repeat this as a mantra!   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube
Why Do We Defend Our Dysfunction?
Nov 2 2022
Why Do We Defend Our Dysfunction?
Dysfunctional behavior…we all deal with it, to one degree or another. Is that behavior healthy? Absolutely not! So, why do we find ourselves dealing with it from time to time? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily open up about their dysfunctional behavior, the mechanisms we put in place to protect ourselves from it, and what we can do to help ourselves and others dealing with it. Key Points In Episode: You can have a voice and still be messy – both can happen at the same time, and that’s OK.Sarah believes that there’s a general shift happening, and that’s a good thing! Earlier, it felt as if one needed to be an expert on something before saying anything, but now we’re moving into a more realistic place where we’re acknowledging our limitations of knowledge and experience but focusing on finding people that your message resonates with.There isn’t just value at the end. The real value is in the journey. #QuoteOfTheDayHave you ever felt as if certain things aren’t going great and you know that, but you subconsciously defend and justify them to yourself?For Emily, that happens when you’re making changes: You know something is holding you back, but don’t know how to shift yet. So, you gravitate toward what’s familiar and comfortable instead of going outside of your comfort zone. Sound familiar?Sarah found herself in a situation when she shifted from scarcity to abundance. She wanted to live more abundantly and have an impact on the world but could barely take care of herself.Don’t be afraid to open up to others! A conversation with a friend brought up the fact that Sarah’s desires for the future were in contradiction with the belief system she was following and defending.You feel frustrated because your beliefs aren’t aligned with your values or with the life you’d like to create – right?Are you planning to talk with a friend who’s dealing with dysfunctional behavior and who feels kind of stuck? Sarah suggests asking for permission before showing them the blind spot that’s holding them back.We often create stories that we kind of adhere our identity to in some ways, and then we defend them even though they aren’t really serving us.Sarah feels as if, in today’s world, there’s an overemphasis on self-reliance and independence. Do you agree?Remember: When talking to a friend who’s “stuck,” it isn’t about getting them to move through it or being frustrated that they aren’t. It’s just about having candid conversations.And yes, there’s a connection between dysfunctional behavior, health, and happiness…   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Previous Episode: Powerlessness vs. Over-Responsibility: Do You Lean One Way?
Powerlessness vs. Over-Responsibility: Do You Lean One Way?
Oct 26 2022
Powerlessness vs. Over-Responsibility: Do You Lean One Way?
Some people go through life feeling that things just happen to them, while others have a sense of over-responsibility when things go wrong…which camp are you in? In this episode of Inner Archeology, we go over this duality and discuss what to consider and do to become aware of what you’re experiencing, and how to live life with less worries. Key Points In Episode: There are people who go through life feeling as if life is kind of happening to them, while others automatically blame themselves when things go wrong.Which one are you? Emily has primarily experienced powerlessness, while Sarah has been dealing with a sense of over-responsibility.Have you ever tried counterbalancing what you’re identifying with the most, between powerlessness and over-responsibility? If not, give it a try!What motivates you toward being the best version of yourself? Think about your worst traits and work toward improving those. Otherwise, think about your best traits and focus on maintaining them. #LiveABetterLifeAs a child, Emily tended to trust everybody, while Sarah did the opposite and was always questioning them. No surprise that they fall on opposite ends of the spectrum as grownups! #FetalPositionEmily #AngrySarahQuick note for all mothers-to-be: just know that your sense of smell and taste in the first trimester are going to be very powerful.Shoot an email to innerarcheology@gmail.com to share which camp you’re in (powerlessness or over-responsibility?).   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube
Energetic Intelligence and Strategic Exclusion In Group Dynamics
Oct 19 2022
Energetic Intelligence and Strategic Exclusion In Group Dynamics
You’re out with friends and you’re having fun…until that one friend arrives! You know, the one who monopolizes the conversation and whose energy just doesn’t match that of other people in your group? In this episode of Inner Archeology we go over the role of energetic intelligence when meeting others and why not being inclusive doesn’t necessarily mean not letting others in.   Key Points In Episode: Have you ever noticed how, when out with a group of friends, each of them impacts the dynamic of the group?Sarah believes that the people who attend an event also very much create it.If you’re a “the more, the merrier” kind of person, remember that inviting someone who doesn’t quite fit the vibe is actually you doing a disservice to others! #truthEmily points out that there’s a level of energy related to curating spaces and atmospheres when you’re a host, and there’s one when you’re a leader.Some people think that If you aren’t being inclusive, then you’re excluding others… but is it really that black and white or are there some nuances?Asking yourself “what’s the intention of the gathering?”’ is going to help you address any internal conflicts you may have about inclusivity or the lack thereof.Finding yourself in a situation where you don’t like the vibe? Ask yourself what you can do to change that.Heard of emotional intelligence? Well, just know that there’s energetic intelligence too.There are people who are inserting their energy into everyone, then there are those who are black holes, energy vampires.Emily’s 90-day coaching program will open in January! Join the waiting list over at MasterYourFate90.com.   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters by Priya Parker I Love You Honeybear by Father John Misty Emily’s course - Master Your Fate