Terrible Lizards

Iszi Lawrence and David Hone

Terrible Lizards is a podcast about Dinosaurs with Dr David Hone and Iszi Lawrence. read less

Our Editor's Take

Paleontologist Dr. David Hone and comedian Iszi Lawrence host the Terrible Lizards podcast. It's a show for dinosaur enthusiasts of almost any age. Iszi came into the podcast with little advanced knowledge about dinosaurs. Her curiosity and enthusiasm make her an ideal stand-in for the listener. She asks the questions many dino-curious laypeople might ask. Dave is eager to receive and answer these queries in clear, accessible language. His and Iszi's discussions are harmonic, fun, and educational.

Each episode focuses on a broad topic. In one episode, Dave and Iszi discuss common dinosaur beliefs that lack scientific grounding. Some enthusiasts believe in pseudoscience that they think is real. This particular conversation begins with a question about pterosaurs. Pterosaurs were flying reptiles that evolved to be distinct from dinosaurs rather than being a type of dinosaur. Iszi asks Dave whether pterosaurs were dragons.

Carefree antics continue in an episode about dinosaur documentaries. Dave shares a story about being on an expert panel with three other paleontologists. The filmmakers promise not to put anything on the screen that three of four disagree with. The filmmakers propose a scene where a T. rex fights a velociraptor. Dave points out that these two never existed on the same continent or at the same time. The velociraptor would also be several times smaller than a T. rex.

As knowledgeable as Dave is, there is one dinosaur he would never talk about. That dinosaur is the stegosaurus. For this topic, Dave and Iszi call in an expert, Dr. Susie Maidment. She and Dave discuss the makeup of their trademark spikes. They say they have solid bone inside, but these structures are long and thin. Another dinosaur could snap one off in a fight.

Each Terrible Lizards episode ends with a dinosaur roar. Iszi and Dave invite Susie to describe the sound a stegosaurus might make. She shares a delightful anecdote about her daughter's push-button picture book. The button on the stegosaurus page makes a sound like a hungry tummy. Dave makes the proposed noise, which Susie deems accurate. This podcast is an engaging balance of facts and fun.

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Episodes

TLS09E07 Elvis is extinct!
Jul 26 2023
TLS09E07 Elvis is extinct!
Petrodactyle and Pterosaur Growth Dave has had a productive year for pterosaur papers and now two are out in quick succession(!) so get ready for a double-whammy podcast of him rolling his eyes when Iszi mentions flappy-flaps and he’s trying to be serious. Anyway, first up is a new large pterosaur from southern Germany with a massive bony crest on its head. The specimen is owned by the Lauer Foundation and Dave talks about them and their work with palaeontologists to bring some new fossils to science. From there we move onto a new paper on pterosaur growth. We have covered this before with the idea that at least some pterosaurs grew very evenly and were independent pretty much on hatching. But this is a wider study with more species and suggests that the bigger pterosaurs were engaging in parental care with adults looking after their offspring for some time and shows there was more variation than previously thought.    Links: Here’s a link to the Lauer Foundation where you can check out their work: https://www.lauerfoundationpse.org and here’s their Facebook page with loads of photos of Petrodactyle: https://www.facebook.com/lauerfoundation  A post of Dave’s from a couple of years back on his last big foray into pterosaur growth: https://archosaurmusings.wordpress.com/2020/07/08/how-to-grow-your-dragon-pterosaur-onotgeny/  A link to I Know Dino which we mentioned at the top of the episode: https://iknowdino.com/ Please support us on patreon: https://www.patreon.com/terriblelizards Artwork Credit: Lauer Foundation
TLS09E02 Dinosaurs News
Feb 22 2023
TLS09E02 Dinosaurs News
Dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals have been a hit in the media for about as long as palaeontologists have been digging them up. But even in the modern age of digital communication, there is almost always an intermediate (and often several) between a palaeontologist and their audience when it comes to communicating about these animals. Whether it’s journalists, reporters, documentaries and print, radio or TV, what you say, suggest, demand, advise or write as a palaeontologist often goes through editors, subeditors, producers, directors, animators and whole panels of discussion and you have very little control over it. That means that even the best communicators can have their message badly distorted by those who don’t, or should, know better and has profound effects on the public understanding of science and where scientists fit into it. So listen to Dave describe (OK, rant) about all the ways this goes wrong and what it means for the audience and palaeontologists alike. Iszi does get a word or two in as well.  Links: A blog post Dave forlornly wrote as a guide for journalists writing about science but serves as a useful guide for most people for spotting bad science journalism: https://archosaurmusings.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/traps-for-journalists-to-avoid/  A blogpost by palaeontologist Mark Witton about what can happen when a TV show tries to bring dinosaurs (on this case, pterosaurs) to life even when experts are involved: http://pterosaur-net.blogspot.com/2011/01/what-despair-pterosaurs-and-david.html