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Agency Bytes is a podcast for owners of creative, marketing, and advertising agencies that packs a ton of important agency information on one topic, from one expert into a 25-minute brief. Why 25 minutes? Because who has the attention span for much more these days, and you can squeeze in a listen between meetings with time for a bathroom break or coffee refill before your next meeting. Agency Bytes is brought to you by Steve Guberman from Agency Outsight. Steve is a 20-year agency veteran who works as a business coach for agencies around the country. He coaches owners of branding, marketing, design, and PR agencies to conquer their goals and overcome their challenges. Learn more about Agency Outsight at www.agencyoutsight.com read less
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Ep 056 – Wayne Pelletier, Resonant Pixel Company – Selling Productization
5d ago
Ep 056 – Wayne Pelletier, Resonant Pixel Company – Selling Productization
Featuring: Wayne Pelletier, Resonant Pixel Company In this episode, Wayne Pelletier, founder of Resonant Pixel Co, discusses the process of productizing agency services and the benefits it brings. He shares his journey from being a marketing assistant to launching his own agency and explains why he chose to focus on Squarespace as the platform for his services. Wayne emphasizes the importance of niching down and serving a specific audience, as well as the mindset shift required to transition from a project-based model to a subscription-based model. He also highlights the challenges and rewards of productization and the potential for scalability and growth. Key Takeaways • Productizing agency services involves niching down and focusing on a specific audience or platform. • A subscription-based model can provide more predictable revenue and eliminate the feast and famine cycle of project-based work. • Choosing the right platform, such as Squarespace, can offer stability, scalability, and the ability to hire predictably for talent. • Productization requires a mindset shift from being a designer to being a business owner, focusing on access to expertise and lifetime value. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Pronunciation 08:10 Transitioning to a Subscription-Based Model 12:54 The Benefits of Productization and Lifetime Value 23:04 Serving Small Businesses and Providing Relief Wayne came up working at world-renowned digital agencies as a designer, art director, and creative director. He has helped some of the world's best brands with award-winning strategic design and customer experiences. After 24 years of agency life, he founded Resonant Pixel Company in 2020 and is helping small businesses go beyond brochure-ware websites. And he's doing it with a productized subscription business model. Contact Wayne on his website or on LinkedIn.
Ep 055 – Jacob Cass, JUST Creative – How to Stand Out Like a Flamingo
Apr 17 2024
Ep 055 – Jacob Cass, JUST Creative – How to Stand Out Like a Flamingo
Featuring: Jacob Cass, Founder of JUST Creative In this episode, I had the pleasure of chatting with Jacob Cass from JUST Creative about his remarkable journey from digital nomad and designer to his current roles as an agency owner, educator, and blogger. We delve into how Jacob manages to juggle multiple ventures while maintaining focus and standing out in the industry. His pursuit of creative freedom drives him to embrace new technologies and innovative ideas, such as the AI bots he's developed to support branding efforts for agencies. We also explore topics like affiliate marketing, value-based pricing, marketplace positioning, and more. Tune in for the full conversation and gain insights from Jacob's wealth of experience! Key Takeaways • Embrace AI in design and see how it can improve your process and productivity. • Diversify your revenue streams to create a more stable and sustainable business. • Consider value-based pricing to reflect the value you bring to clients rather than charging by the hour. • Reflect, recalibrate, and refocus regularly to adapt to changes in the market and set new goals. • Try new tools and don't be afraid to experiment and find what works best for you. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 08:24 The Role of Design in Jacob's Business 23:55 Experimenting with Tools and Embracing Change Jacob Cass is a brand designer, strategist, educator, podcaster, business coach, community builder, and the founder of JUST Creative, a branding & design consultancy that doubles as an industry-leading blog and community. Jacob helps grow brands strategically and has worked for clients such as Disney, Nintendo, and Jerry Seinfeld however he is now focused on bringing this global brand experience to smaller businesses. For Jacob, design is a lifelong journey of continuously honing his craft, as well as empowering other fellow designers & entrepreneurs to build on theirs, which has allowed him to build a large and loyal following, including his JUST Creative website which has been viewed over 70 million times. Jacob has spoken at TEDx and been featured in Entrepreneur, Forbes, and a number of high-profile design books including The Best of Logo Lounge Master Series. Jacob holds a Bachelor of Visual Communication (Graphic Design Major) from The University of Newcastle, Sydney, Australia, and a Brand Master Certification from Brand Master Academy, and over 17 years of experience in the industry with multiple awards on his belt. Jacob co-hosts the JUST Branding Podcast which helps designers & entrepreneurs grow brands. He also coaches creatives in his Inner Triangle Coaching Program, either 1:1 or in a group mastermind setting. Yahoo! recently declared him as the “Best Brand Coach”. Jacob also runs the membership community Exponential Creatives which helps creatives grow exponentially. Jacob is a digital nomad and travels the world now isolated in Sydney with his family of four while running JUST Creative. He has visited 88 countries thus far with travel guides most of them available at his travel blog, JUST Globetrotting. Contact Justin on his website, listen to his podcast, download his newsletter.
Ep 054 – Mark Riggs – Secrets to Organic Account Growth
Apr 5 2024
Ep 054 – Mark Riggs – Secrets to Organic Account Growth
Featuring: Mark Riggs, CEO of Pemberton In this episode, I got to sit with Mark Riggs from Pemberton, a consultant and coach for agencies. He shares his insights on shifting from the RFP rat race to building organic growth of existing and new clients. He emphasizes the importance of solving client problems and being proactive in account growth. Mark discusses the need to set expectations with clients from the beginning and continuously communicate and collaborate with them. He also highlights the value of focusing on organic growth and investing the same energy and innovation into existing clients as in winning new business. Mark advises agency owners to start out with defined principles and have patience in their journey. Tune in to hear his top secrets on nailing organic account growth. Key Takeaways • Focus on solving client problems and being proactive in account growth. • Set expectations with clients from the beginning and continuously communicate and collaborate with them. • Invest the same energy and innovation into existing clients as in winning new business. • Start out with defined principles and have patience in your agency journey. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 01:04 Shift in Biz Dev and Account Growth 09:36 Setting Expectations and Scoping 14:21 Operational Scoping and Profitability 23:08 Lessons from Marketing During Downturns 25:49 Invaluable Business Advice Mark is the founder and CEO of Pemberton which is a management consultancy that exists to be the go-to resource for marketing/communications agencies to discover and reveal pathways to organic growth while changing the mindset of an RFP-obsessed industry. Before starting Pemberton, Mark spent 20-plus years in the agency world working for IPG’s Mullen Lowe, an Ad Age A-List Agency, Taylor, the Holmes Report’s Consumer Agency of the Decade, MWWPR and French/West/Vaughan, the Southeast’s largest independent agency. Mark has spent a career learning the art of integrated communication developing and executing award-winning consumer programs for brands and companies like Allstate, Honda, Ford, Kimberly-Clark, Polaris, Coke, Diageo, RJ Reynolds, SunTrust Banks, the U.S. Navy, the Atlantic Coast Conference and ESPN, to name a few. Mark has a reputation as a business-builder and a strategic counselor and has experience in leading client services, insights and planning functions, as well as developing talent. A creative thinker and problem-solver, Mark believes that great thinking can “come from anywhere,” it’s the ability to harness it and leverage it for clients that makes the intellectual property of the agency valuable and an integral part of the marketing mix. Contact Mark on his website, his personal LinkedIn, or his company LinkedIn.
Ep 053 – Nicholas  Petroski, Promethean Research – Repeatable Revgen
Mar 29 2024
Ep 053 – Nicholas Petroski, Promethean Research – Repeatable Revgen
Featuring: Nicholas Petroski, Promethean Research In this episode, I got to speak to Nick Pretroski from Promethean Research and we dig into the topic of recurring revenue generation for agencies. Nick breaks down some Revgen strategies and talks about how essential it is to build a machine (AKA a system that works for YOU) that companies can use to repeatedly generate new leads, converting them into sales, bringing them through delightful delivery processes, and turning them into evangelists. We talk about the four key areas of Revgen and the owners’ role in these areas, and ways to shift some of those responsibilities off of the owner's plate to expand the efforts of the team. Nick also lays out some of the key metrics to keep your eye on to measure the results of your RevGen efforts. Key Takeaways • Having a system in place for repeatable revenue generation (RevGen) is crucial for digital agencies to grow reliably and with higher margins. • Transitioning from a practitioner role to a business development leadership role is essential for agency owners to focus on strategic growth. • The RevGen system consists of four roles: biz dev, sales, account management, and marketing, each responsible for specific stages of the client lifecycle. • Avoiding bloated spending and tracking key metrics are important for the success of the RevGen system. • Being methodical in building a RevGen system can help alleviate stress and make running a business easier. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 03:44 Understanding Repeatable RevGen 09:14 Transitioning from Practitioner to Biz Dev Leadership 13:49 The Four Roles in the RevGen System 16:18 Implementing the RevGen System 20:16 Key Metrics for RevGen Success 24:16 Hobbies and New Tools 26:01 Valuable Business Advice I’m Nick. I run Promethean. A boutique consultancy that helps digital agencies grow more reliably with higher margins and simpler operations. Since 2015, I’ve been helping digital firms better understand their industry and chart more effective paths to success. Prior to co-founding Promethean, I worked as an equity analyst at a Wall St. firm where I covered the enterprise software and semiconductor industries. Before that, I spent a bit of time in corporate finance. When I’m not in the office, you can find me backpacking around the Midwest or making fancy firewood in my woodshop. Contact Nick on his website, on LinkedIn, or learn about repeatable RevGen for Digital Agencies here.
Ep 052 – Tracy Goodheart, The PR Accelerator – Standing Out in the Crowd
Mar 22 2024
Ep 052 – Tracy Goodheart, The PR Accelerator – Standing Out in the Crowd
Featuring: Tracy Goodheart, The PR Accelerator In this episode, I got to talk to Tracy Goodheart from The PR Accelerator about her journey from being a journalist to helping individuals and brands attract sustained media attention without a publicist. She discusses the evolution of social media and its impact on journalism, emphasizing the importance of earned media over social media for brand credibility. Tracy also highlights the value of creating a messaging system and leveraging ghostwriting to elevate thought leadership within agencies. She advises agency owners to seek external validation and shares her insights on standout strategies in the marketplace. Key Takeaways • Earned media is more valuable than social media for brand credibility. • Creating a messaging system can help streamline communication and ensure consistency. • Ghostwriting can elevate thought leadership within agencies and humanize senior leadership. • Seeking external validation can boost self-confidence and protect against workplace bullying. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 03:16 The Evolution of Social Media and Journalism 06:46 Leveraging Social Media and Earned Media 09:21 Creating a Messaging System 10:59 Ghostwriting and Thought Leadership 13:30 The Impact of Ghostwriting on Agency Culture 20:36 Random Rapid-Fire Questions 24:06 Invaluable Business Advice Tracy Samantha Goodheart is the founder of The PR Accelerator, a different kind of PR company. Simply put, she helps individuals and brands nail their messaging and attract positive, sustained media attention without a publicist. She also teaches marketing globally for the University of Chicago and has advised more than 75 brands on their marketing and communications. A journalist by training, Tracy has 15 years of media experience working in every type of newsroom. She began her career as a reporter at TIME Magazine, where she covered the rise of Facebook and developed new methods for reporting breaking news. She also created a blog network for the Chicago Tribune, led global social media strategy for Crain Communications – the publisher of titles like Ad Age, InvestmentNews, and Modern Healthcare – and has trained hundreds of working journalists how to find original story ideas. Tracy has also been a frequent TV commentator and taught graduate journalism school. A Chicago native, she now lives in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, where she and her husband are renovating a historic general store and starting a lavender farm. Contact Tracy through her website or on LinkedIn.
Ep 051 – Debra Rizzi, Rizco Design – WBENC Agency Tips
Mar 15 2024
Ep 051 – Debra Rizzi, Rizco Design – WBENC Agency Tips
Featuring: Debra Rizzi, Rizco Design In episode 051, I had the great privilege of speaking with my long-time friend, Debra Rizzi, partner and president of Rizco, a women-owned brand-led marketing agency. We got to discuss the launch and evolution of her agency nearly 25 years ago, the benefits of becoming a certified woman-owned business, and the integration of new tools and processes like EOS. She emphasizes the importance of community involvement and maintaining core values and culture in her agency. She also talks about her day-to-day responsibilities and offers business advice, including the significance of gratitude and self-acknowledgment. Key Takeaways • Launching a business can arise from unexpected circumstances and opportunities. • Becoming a certified woman-owned business can open doors and provide access to funding and resources. • Integrating new tools and processes can enhance efficiency and effectiveness. • Community involvement and maintaining core values and culture are essential for long-term success. • Expressing gratitude and acknowledging personal achievements are important for personal and professional growth. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 01:08 The Launch of Rizco 05:47 Certification as a Women-Owned Business 07:04 Benefits of Women-Owned Business Certification 09:34 Integration of New Tools and Processes 10:17 Business Development Opportunities 12:40 Involvement in the Community 20:53 Day-to-Day Responsibilities 25:23 Binging and New Tools 27:15 Business Advice 29:36 Gratitude and Self-Acknowledgment 29:59 Closing Remarks Debra Rizzi has over 25 years of experience in developing brand strategies for local, national, and international companies. She is a partner and president of Rizco, a woman-owned, brand-led marketing agency, which she co-founded in 2000. Upon graduating from Bucknell University, Debra worked in the finance department of corporate Lord & Taylor. Later, she managed the creative department of the global public relations firm, Porter Novelli. Debra is a past NJ Biz “40 Under 40” recipient and 2020 NJBIZ’s “50 Best Women in Business” Award. She is a member of many business organizations, currently serves on Wall High School’s Business and Finance Academy’s Advisory Board, and served 8 years on Bucknell University’s Alumni Association Board of Directors. On a personal level, Debra’s partner in life and in business is her husband, Keith, and together they balance the lives of their three daughters, Mia, Marley, and Monroe. Contact Debra through her agency website, Facebook, Instagram, or on Linkedin.
Ep 050 – Ilise Benun, Marketing Mentor – The Simplest Marketing Plan
Mar 6 2024
Ep 050 – Ilise Benun, Marketing Mentor – The Simplest Marketing Plan
Featuring: Ilise Benun, Marketing Mentor With the launch of Season Two of Agency Bytes, I'm thrilled to introduce an extraordinary guest for this momentous occasion – Ilise Benun from Marketing Mentor. Ilise is not only a longtime friend but also someone I've admired for decades. In this episode, I had the privilege of delving into Ilise's invaluable insights on her "Simplest Marketing Plan" and how she guides creative professionals to success by helping them focus and identify their market. We discuss the importance of cultivating a deep, focused niche and Ilise lays out actionable steps to achieve this. Ilise believes that building your business should be enjoyable and shares her observations on why many agency owners struggle with their marketing efforts due to being too close to their businesses. We dissect the difference between horizontal and vertical niches, exploring how the latter can significantly boost marketing endeavors. Ilise also emphasizes the significance of sub-niches and provides guidance on expanding into new niches. Furthermore, Ilise outlines her comprehensive program focusing on marketing, money, and mindset, identifying these as key areas of weakness for most creatives. We also challenge the notion that referrals are always beneficial and discuss strategies to overcome complacency in business development. Tune in to uncover some of the invaluable secrets Ilise has accumulated over her more than 30 years as a creative business coach. This episode is packed with actionable insights and wisdom you won't want to miss! For the past 35 years, Ilise Benun has made it her business to teach basic business skills – that is mindset, money, and marketing – to creative professionals and solopreneurs who should have learned them in school but, alas, did not because it’s not taught in school. This has, for years, perpetuated a “starving artist” mentality amongst creative professionals, who are naturally talented and could easily bring their creativity to the business side of their business, if only they knew how. That’s the mission she’s on with all of her work through marketing-mentor.com, including The Simplest Marketing Plan, The Marketing Mentor Podcast, 7 books including The Creative Professional’s Guide to Money, multiple online courses for Creative Live and Domestika.org and much more. Contact Ilise: https://bit.ly/agencyoutsight-qt https://www.marketing-mentor.com/ https://quicktips.marketing-mentor.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/iliseben
Ep 048 – Kelly Berry, Brand Therapist
Dec 15 2023
Ep 048 – Kelly Berry, Brand Therapist
Featuring: Kelly Berry, Brand Therapist In Episode 48, I engaged in an enlightening conversation with Kelly Berrk, a passionate advocate for brand strategy and yoga. We explored Kelly's journey of resetting after experiencing burnout, and the profound impact it had on her creative inspiration following a much-needed period of refocus. Kelly delved into the concept of brand therapy, an integral part of her brand strategy process, influenced by her commitment to self-care and life balance. She shared insights on how these practices serve as tools to connect the dots, helping brands articulate their messages and define their "why" and purpose. Throughout the episode, Kelly emphasized the importance of exploration and connection with others to identify the common thread that ties together brands and relationships. She encouraged listeners to reflect on how they are fostering connections, practicing empathy, and building bridges to create meaningful openings in both professional and personal spheres. Kelly is an entrepreneur, writer, and teacher who is interested in the study of consciousness and introspection. She is a brand strategist working with agencies and brands operating in the health, wellness, and lifestyle markets. Her background leading marketing and communications teams at public relations agencies, tech startups, and lifestyle brands in combination with her functional movement expertise through the disciplines of yoga, Pilates, and bodywork – fun fact she was the lead curator of the yoga program at the U.S. Department of State and teacher to athletes including the Washington Mystics – informs the way in which she approaches developing brand stories and verbal brand identities for her clients. Contact Kelly on her website or Instagram.
Ep 047 – Dan Antonelli, KickCharge Creative
Dec 8 2023
Ep 047 – Dan Antonelli, KickCharge Creative
Featuring: Dan Antonelli, KickCharge Creative In this episode, I got to speak with Dan Antonelli, President and Chief Creative Officer of KickCharge Creative. Dan’s agency is by far one of the most deeply niched teams I know of, literally owning the home service branding space and having written the book on it. Dan and I dug into the difference his agency saw once they declared ownership over that space, stopped chasing service-based work that they didn’t find profitable, and rebranded themselves to drink their own cool-aid. Dan experienced a near-death event a few years ago and he spoke about how that was a driving force for him to realign some of his priorities and team structure so they can have more impact and help more people. He also shared how that led to selling some equity in the agency by bringing on a partner this summer and the benefits that will have for KickCharge. Lastly, Dan’s team faces regular copyright infringement, mostly from freelancers stealing their designs and using them as their own. Dan shares how they deal with that, as well as what not to do in instances like that. Dan Antonelli is the President and Chief Creative Officer of KickCharge Creative, an award-winning New Jersey-based branding agency that specializes in helping home service businesses redefine themselves and stand out with disruptive brands. Dan is a nationally recognized speaker and expert on home service branding, with several books on branding to his credit, including Building a Big Small Business Brand and his new Amazon best-selling book, Branded Not Branded: KickCharge Your Home Service Brand. During more than 25 years running his own agency, Dan’s marketing expertise has been featured on MSNBC and in industry magazines including Entrepreneur, SignCraft, HVACR Business, Plumbing & Mechanical, and Contracting Business, among many others. His signature wrap style that integrates disruptive branding has served as a model for superior home service fleet branding throughout the world. With more than 2,000 home service brands under his belt, Dan and his team have overseen the branding of more home service businesses than any other brand agency in the world. Contact Dan on his website, LinkedIn, and Instagram, or grab a copy of his book.
Ep 043 – Liz Young, StudioLabs
Nov 3 2023
Ep 043 – Liz Young, StudioLabs
Featuring: Liz Young, StudioLabs In this episode, I had the pleasure of conversing with Liz Young, the founder of StudioLabs, a 20-year-old custom software development agency with 45 dedicated team members. Liz's journey began in a unique way when, at the age of 25, she launched her agency on the spot in her first client's lobby. At that time, she was among the few women in the industry. In this episode, she shares the intriguing story of StudioLabs' inception and how she now leads the agency. Liz delves into the day-to-day operations of the agency, highlighting the systems that keep everything running smoothly. She emphasizes the agency's deliberate efforts to cultivate strong leaders and maintain a vibrant company culture. Tune in to gain insights into how Liz has transformed StudioLabs from a trusted resource for other agencies into a powerhouse that develops software solutions for some of the world's most prominent brands. After graduating from the University of Hartford as a two-sport D1 athlete, majoring in graphic design and minoring in illustration, Liz started her career in New York City with work ranging from digital design to illustration and storyboarding. Along the way, she learned frontend web development technologies and began building the things she designed. Liz’s passion for technology grew and began to change the way she approached creative conception and execution. From 2000 until 2003, Liz was fortunate enough to have been part of an incredibly talented, visionary team of creative and engineering professionals who hopped from the agency world, to the publishing world, and back to the agency world again, creating award-winning digital products for Fortune 500 companies and some of the world’s most recognizable brands. It was as part of this team that Liz had the opportunity to help design and build the world’s first-ever live webcast of an international sporting event - the 2000 Paralympic Games in Sydney, Australia. In 2003, at the age of 25, Liz founded StudioLabs, a product design and development studio that focuses on creative technology. Through her work at StudioLabs, she has helped create software applications, mobile applications, websites, games, and other digital products for clients such as Estee Lauder and ESPN, and she’s partnered with some of the world’s most talented creative teams at agencies like Ogilvy & Mather and RG/A. Liz’s current responsibilities as CEO and Creative Director have her tasked with leading both creative strategy and business operations. She works hand-in-hand with the StudioLabs internal team and the client-side stakeholders, ensuring that the team is delivering well-designed, smart, engaging digital products that resonate with the end user. Liz is also a co-founder, board member, and investor in multiple other companies and startups, predominantly in the SaaS (Software as a Service) industry. Contact Liz.
Ep 042 – Claire Hutchings – Chime Agency
Oct 29 2023
Ep 042 – Claire Hutchings – Chime Agency
Featuring: Claire Hutchings, Chime Agency In this episode, I had the pleasure of conversing with Claire Hutchings from Chime Agency in the UK, renowned as the marketing agency for agencies. Claire and her team have developed a remarkable agency benchmark, showcasing how an agency can effectively create content for thought leadership and pipeline development. At the time of this recording, Chime had witnessed an astounding 100X increase in revenue in its pipeline. Furthermore, they secured speaking engagements and other opportunities, all stemming from this thought leadership initiative. Claire delves into the investment her agency made in this project and reveals the remarkable return on investment (ROI) it yielded. Spoiler alert: It's a no-brainer! Claire is on a mission to solve the challenge all agencies face – their own marketing. She has 15 years of experience spanning boutique independents like We Are Collider, HLabs, Climbing Trees, and Quickfire Digital to global networked agencies Publicis Groupe, Hotwire, and Fleishman Hillard. She has a passion for content, bridging strategy and delivery seamlessly bringing her extensive agency knowledge to all of Chime Agency’s clients. Claire won Best New Business at the 2022 Women’s Business Awards and was Commended at the Global Women in Marketing Awards 2022. Contact Claire on Linkedin, the Chime Agency website, the Chime Agency LinkedIn page, or grab your copy of the Agency Marketing Report.
Ep 041 – Danielle Fauteaux, Momentum Marketing
Oct 20 2023
Ep 041 – Danielle Fauteaux, Momentum Marketing
Featuring: Danielle Fauteaux, Momentum Marketing In this engaging episode, I'm joined by fellow agency coach Danielle Fauteaux for an insightful conversation about the world of agencies. We dive deep into the importance of niche specialization and how it can transform agency dynamics. Danielle shares valuable insights on how agencies can harness their niches to establish a stronger position, and effectively direct their marketing efforts within that space. We explore how this strategic niche focus can steer agencies away from the common "new business plateau" and optimize their overall operations. Danielle also reveals her approach to helping agencies not only grow but also cultivate resilience and stability. Much like my philosophy, she empowers agency owners to define their unique vision of success and lets that vision guide their strategic efforts. Tune in for a rich discussion on agency dynamics and how to chart a course for lasting success. Danielle is passionate about helping creatives recognize their value and place in this world; passionate about helping leaders regain control over their responsibilities; passionate about encouraging others to live more meaningful lives; and passionate about doing more with less. While serving in support, client-facing, and leadership roles at multiple agencies, Danielle realized nobody really knows what they are doing; everyone’s just doing the best that they know how. From there, she became determined to participate in the iterative building and optimization of various agencies to “level up” the entire ecosystems they likewise service through their own books of business. A fellow agency coach, Danielle guides agencies through the Momentum Framework to achieve their revenue and profit goals while falling back in love with the mission they originally set out with. Contact Danielle and listen to her podcast on her website.
Ep 040 – Ben Guttmann, Author
Oct 12 2023
Ep 040 – Ben Guttmann, Author
Featuring: Ben Guttmann, Author In this episode, I had a fascinating conversation with Ben Guttmann, the author of "Simply Put: Why Clear Messages Win – and How to Design Them." We delved into Ben's journey of founding, managing, and eventually selling his agency, Digital Natives. He discussed the strategic steps they took during the agency's exit, including segmenting sales with different partners to ensure every employee found a new job and every client had a smooth transition. Ben also shared valuable insights into the reasons and goals behind exiting and acquisitions, offering guidance for those considering a similar path. Additionally, we explored Ben's role as a professor at Baruch College, discovering why it's more than just a paycheck for him – it's a fulfilling passion. He discussed his aspiration to become an author and what drove him to write his book. Furthermore, Ben emphasized how his agency experience equipped him with the necessary tools for a successful writing endeavor. Tune in for the full story and gain valuable insights from our conversation. Ben Guttmann is a marketing and communications expert and author of Simply Put: Why Clear Messages Win — and How to Design Them. He’s an experienced marketing executive and educator on a mission to get leaders to more effectively connect by simplifying their message. Ben is a former co-founder and managing partner at Digital Natives Group, an award-winning agency that worked with the NFL, I Love NY, Comcast NBCUniversal, Hachette Book Group, The Nature Conservancy, and other major clients. Ben teaches digital marketing at Baruch College in New York City and consults with a range of thought leaders, venture-backed startups, and other brands. Contact Ben on LinkedIn or grab his book or sample chapter.
Ep 037 – Owen Williams, Founder, Managing Partner of Outside Lines
Sep 22 2023
Ep 037 – Owen Williams, Founder, Managing Partner of Outside Lines
Featuring: Owen Williams, Founder, Managing Partner of Outside Lines In this episode, I got to speak with Owen Williams from Outside Lines, a creative industry talent strategy and recruitment company. We spent time talking about how Outside Lines helps transform agencies with their experience in building solid and nimble teams. Owen shares how important it is to focus on roles that develop skills in rising stars and how lessons can be learned from all experiences, no matter how good or bad they seem to be. He breaks down how vital it is to approach recruitment from a strategy standpoint, to dig under the hood of the shop, and to get a deeper understanding of the day-to-day and long-term goals and how recruitment can help accomplish them. We also dug into the need for more diverse leadership in the industry and how we’re already seeing a shift in the lower third of the teams being developed now. Owen has led global organizations in attracting, hiring, and retaining talent. He has restructured and opened new offices in the United States, EMEA, LATAM and APAC regions, and has built recruiting departments from the ground up. His career has been driven by his passion for cultivating great teams who go on to make things that affect and change the modern culture. Before founding Outside Lines, Owen had the privilege of working for some of the world’s best creative agencies, including TBWA\Media Arts Lab, Mother, and 72andSunny. It was in those leading organizations that he honed his craft for identifying unique, divergent talent, in and out of the advertising industry, shaping teams that would go on to create world-class work. When not working, you can find him spending time with family and friends, introducing his son to art and design, golfing (whenever possible…), and eating his way through cities across the globe. Contact Own on his website or on Instagram.