The Steep Stuff Podcast

James Lauriello

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Kieran Nay | The Highs and Lows of the Professional Trail Runner
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Kieran Nay | The Highs and Lows of the Professional Trail Runner
Send us a Text Message.Kieran Nay takes us through his inspiring journey from Colorado Springs to Gunnison, sharing his experiences and achievements at races like the Pikes Peak Ascent and Marathon. We explore the often-overlooked trails in Palmer Lake and delve into the local legends that have shaped his running career. Kieran also sheds light on his upcoming challenges at the Broken Arrow Sky Race and GoPro Games.Facing the uncertainty of a sesamoid injury, Kieran opens up about the physical and emotional hurdles he encountered during recovery. He recounts consultations with top medical professionals and the difficult process of redefining his identity beyond running. Balancing graduate school and exploring alternative activities like mountain biking, Kieran's story is one of resilience and determination. His emotional comeback at races like the Pikes Peak Ascent highlights the enduring competitive spirit that keeps him moving forward.Our conversation also takes us to the vibrant outdoor culture of Gunnison, Colorado, where high-altitude training and a supportive community create a unique environment for athletes. We discuss the camaraderie among local talents like Lindsay Herman, Maddie Hart, and Cam Smith, and the impressive performances at races like Desert Rats. From course confusion to unexpected encounters with top marathoners, this episode is packed with compelling stories of athletic triumph and personal growth.Kieran Nay IG - @kieran_nay
Dr. Sean Rimmer PT, DPT, OCS - Run Potential PT | Navigating & Identifying Bone Stress Injuries
May 24 2024
Dr. Sean Rimmer PT, DPT, OCS - Run Potential PT | Navigating & Identifying Bone Stress Injuries
Send us a Text Message.Ever wondered how trail runners safeguard their bones while pounding the tough terrain or how marathoners fine-tune those last few weeks before the big race? Sean Rimmer from Run Potential PT joins us again to shed light on these pressing issues. Together, we tackle the nitty-gritty of bone stress injuries—from spotting the early signs to understanding the complex gradations—and Sean walks us through his own tapering rituals that help peak performance when it matters most.The debate on whether to pump up the jams or embrace nature's soundtrack while running is as old as the hills we conquer. We dive into this contentious topic, weighing the uplift music can provide against the need for trail awareness and etiquette. Prepare for heartening tales from running events that bind our community tighter, and insights on why lacing up your shoes might just be the first step towards forming meaningful connections and finding fulfillment in the great outdoors.As our conversation journeys on, we wind down paths less traveled, pondering the mental and spiritual facets of running. From runners who embody the grit of the sport to the more whimsical mysteries of moon landing conspiracies and the elusive Bigfoot, this episode is a tapestry of tales that bridges the metaphysical with the physical. So, join us for a run of the mind, and don't forget to reach out to Sean with your thoughts and help this podcast community grow by sharing your own stories and feedback.IG - @runpotentialpt www.runpotentialpt.com
Erin Ton | Re-writing What's Possible in the Women's FKT Record Books
May 17 2024
Erin Ton | Re-writing What's Possible in the Women's FKT Record Books
Send us a Text Message.Trail-running dynamo Erin Ton takes us through the highs and lows of her mountainous pursuits on the Steep Stuff Podcast, from her transformative post-college years to her current record-chasing ambitions. If her tales of scaling peaks in cocktail dresses and high heels don’t grab your attention, her principled stand to preserve the integrity of outdoor sportsmanship will. Erin's journey is anything but ordinary, and her story of self-supported endurance running, complete with living out of a Jeep Wrangler and strategically excluding Culebra Peak from her records, is both captivating and inspiring.Facing the unpredictable wrath of nature, Erin narrates a particularly chilling encounter with a lightning storm during the Crestone Traverse and the eerie discovery of a reminder from a previous rescue attempt. While unpacking the controversies and complexities of private land ownership in the outdoor community, Erin exemplifies the essence of sticking to one’s values amidst backlash. As she gears up for the Nolans 14 line and the Colorado Trail, we dissect the unique demands each challenge presents and share the strategy behind her ambitious goal to set new benchmarks in a single summer.Beyond the adrenaline-fueled escapades, our conversation with Erin ventures into the realm of wildlife conservation and the political delicacies surrounding the reintroduction of predators like wolves in Colorado. Erin's innovative high-heel 14ers challenge not only breaks norms but also fosters intriguing collaborations, inviting us to rethink our approach to adventure. Wrap up this episode feeling invigorated by Erin’s indomitable spirit and perhaps, just perhaps, consider dusting off those trail shoes—or high heels—for your own mountain adventure.Erin Ton IG - erin_ton7Strava @ Erin Ton
Evan Paul | From the Thrills of Mountain Sports to Chaffee County Search & Rescue
May 10 2024
Evan Paul | From the Thrills of Mountain Sports to Chaffee County Search & Rescue
Send us a Text Message.Today, I sit down with Evan Paul to uncover the raw and riveting world of Search and Rescue. From the practicalities of high-risk rescues in Chaffee County South to the psychological toll on those who save lives, we navigate the depths of SAR operations. We also celebrate the confounding joy of mountain sports, sharing tips on essential gear for the backcountry and acknowledging the unsung heroes who make our adventures possible.Evan's journey from the snowboarding slopes to pacing ultra-runners through the night unveils the essence of camaraderie and the indelible spirit of outdoor communities. We swap stories of coaching athletes, guiding backcountry expeditions, and the unexpected turns in life that lead us to fulfilling careers away from the conventional paths. Listen as Evan and I dissect the nuances of pacing, laugh over the quirks of coaching, and pay homage to the transformative power of supporting each other through life's various races.With Evan's colorful history involving celebrity clients and the magnetism of outdoor adventures, this episode takes a turn towards the peculiar and exhilarating. We recount bizarre escapades with naked runners and rumored cults, while also tackling the more terrestrial topic of UFO skepticism. Meanwhile, we don't shy away from the competitive streak in us all, whether we're sprinting across social media platforms like Strava or simply relishing the anticipatory buzz of trying new gear. Join us as we underscore the vital role of SAR teams and the simple ways you can support these guardians of the wild.
Dreama Walton | A Tale of Resilience, Running, and Dream-Chasing
May 6 2024
Dreama Walton | A Tale of Resilience, Running, and Dream-Chasing
Send us a Text Message.Trailblazer Dreama Walton joins me on an unforgettable journey through the peaks and valleys of her life, from overcoming personal adversities to leading the charge in trail and mountain running. As a resilient mom, veteran, and athlete, Dreama opens up about her transformative experiences, giving listeners a firsthand account of how she channels her passion into fostering a love for the outdoors in the next generation. Our conversation takes a deep dive into the heart of trail running, examining Dreama's mixed feelings on its commercialization and potential Olympic future, while celebrating the community spirit that defines the sport.When Dreama Walton graced the scene with her personal documentary, "The Dreama, Team," and her impactful Beyond the Trail podcast, the trail running community stood up and took notice. In this episode, we explore the serendipitous creation of her film and its emotional narrative, as well as the profound influences of her military service on her life and ultra-running discovery. Dreama's candid recounting of her deployment to Baghdad and subsequent travel adds a layer of profound depth to her story, showcasing her commitment to global understanding and human rights.Ending on a note of aspiration and admiration, Dreama shares her training challenges in Colorado Springs, her respect for legends like Kilian Jornet and Courtney Dauwalter, and her ambitious dream to tackle iconic races, despite the tricky lottery entries. Her story, rife with resilience, purpose, and a spirit of adventure, is not just about running—it's about the courage to chase dreams and the tenacity to make them real. Tune in for an episode that's a testament to the human spirit and the trails that beckon us to tread them.Dreama Walton IG - @dreamawaltonDocumentary - Dreama Team / @dreamateamfilmPodcast - Beyond the Trail Podcast - @beyond.the.trail.podcast  Youtube - @BeyondTheTrailPodcastYouth Trail Running Camp - @COS-TRCK / www.cotrailrun.com
Benjamin Townsend | The Kids are Alright - 20 Year Old Trail Phenom and the Future of the Mountain Running Scene
May 3 2024
Benjamin Townsend | The Kids are Alright - 20 Year Old Trail Phenom and the Future of the Mountain Running Scene
Send us a Text Message.This week's Steep Stuff podcast guest is none other than the trailblazer himself,  Benjamin Townsend; who brings the highs and lows of his running journey right into your ears. From his childhood roots in Logan, Utah, to the punishing Broken Arrow Skyrace, Benjamin doesn't hold back on the details of his intense training and the unforgettable races that have marked his ascent in the trail running world.Navigating the undulating path of trail running isn't just about endurance; it's a dance of strategy and support, something that Benjamin and I dissect with the precision of a well-placed foot on a mountain trail. We unravel the contrasts between American and European approaches to the sport, and consider the emerging trend of trading college running tracks for rugged trails. Equally, we reflect on the shared stories from events like the XTERRA 21K National Championship and the Iron Face Challenge, granting you a window into the technicalities that make each race a unique beast to conquer.The episode isn't just about looking back; it's a forward march to the future of trail running. We debate the purity of the sport in the face of growing commercialization and its potential Olympic future, wrapping up a conversation that's as varied and challenging as the trails Benjamin and I have both come to love. Join us for an episode that’s as much about the soul of running as it is about the sweat and dirt.Benjamin Townsend IG -  @benjamin.tsend
Jackson Cole | Mountain Mastery, From the Skyrunning World Series to FKT Triumphs
Apr 26 2024
Jackson Cole | Mountain Mastery, From the Skyrunning World Series to FKT Triumphs
Send us a Text Message.Join the thrill as Jackson Cole,  a La Sportiva teammate and mountain running powerhouse, sits across from me, James Lauriello, revealing the highs and challenges of his career. From his exhilarating victory at the Minotaur Sky Race to a record-smashing Ten Mile Traverse FKT in Colorado, Jackson's tales are bound to ignite the trail community's excitement. We delve into his transformative journey, which led him from New Zealand's rugged terrains to the majestic Sangre De Cristo mountains, rekindling his love for running. It's not just about the victories, though; we also peer into Jackson's strategies for the upcoming 2024 season, uncovering the parallels between our philosophies, all while reflecting on the synergy that has shaped our endurance.As Jackson reflects on his move to Missoula, we uncover the city's magnetic pull for athletes and the unexpected benefits it brings to training regimes. We're talking high-caliber competition in local races, and the strategic importance of endurance for the season's more grueling runs. The Missoula community, with figures like Adam Peterman and Jeff Mogavero have been an inspiring force for Jackson, honing his approach to training. We even take a step back to appreciate Jackson's under-the-radar yet outstanding 2023 season, as he carved his trail across European sky races, setting the stage for a deep dive into his latest athletic achievements.Finally, we venture beyond the domestic realm and into the heart of international competition, where Jackson shares insights on the distinct nature of events like Matterhorn Ultraks and the technical training critical for excelling in sky races. The conversation then shifts gears towards the fascinating differences between the Golden Trail Series' fast courses and sky running's rugged mountaineering-style challenges. We wrap up by celebrating the emerging young talents in the sport and paying homage to the legends who continue to inspire athletes across the globe. So, lace up your trail shoes and prepare to be inspired by the raw, exhilarating experiences of an elite athlete who breathes passion into the world of mountain running and endurance sports.Jackson Cole - IG - @jayrcolee
Jeff Wilson | Blending Strength, Endurance, and Passion in Running
Apr 19 2024
Jeff Wilson | Blending Strength, Endurance, and Passion in Running
Send us a Text Message.Ever wondered what it takes to keep your running shoes pounding the pavement year after year? Join us as Jeff Wilson, the Colorado Springs running maestro, shares his journey from competitive runner to strength training advocate, and how he balances both with a thriving personal training business.  We also take a nostalgic trip through Michigan sports – the triumphs, the heartaches, and everything in between.This podcast isn't just about the solo sprints; it's a collective sprint through the importance of strength training, debunking the myths holding many runners back. Jeff's insights into the evolution of wellness culture and its nuanced implications for runners at various life stages resonate with anyone looking to go the distance. We get personal, too, with discussions on dietary adjustments, testosterone deficiencies, and how these hurdles can reshape an athlete's trajectory. It's a candid look at the interplay between physical and mental wellbeing that underscores the longevity of a runner's career.As we cross the finish line of this episode, we reflect on the profound influence a supportive community and tailored training have on an athlete, novice or expert. From the nitty-gritty of hybrid training to the philosophical musings on aging and athletics, this conversation with Jeff Wilson is more than just a run through the park. It's a deep dive into how we can adapt, overcome, and continue to set personal records in running and life. So whether you're lacing up for your first mile or your thousandth, this episode promises to fuel your fire and keep your legs moving forward.Jeff Wilson, IG - @coachjeffwilsonJeff's Personal Training Business - totalbodyrunning.com
Brian Whitfield | 2023 Break Through Season, and Ascension in the Sport of Trail Running
Apr 12 2024
Brian Whitfield | 2023 Break Through Season, and Ascension in the Sport of Trail Running
Send us a Text Message.Embark on a captivating journey with Brian Whitfield, Colorado Springs' trail running marvel and dedicated science teacher, as he shares his tale of balance, endurance, and the passion for both environmental science and trail running. From a top ten finish at the Pikes Peak Ascent to the demanding Black Canyon 100K, Brian's narrative bridges the gap between an ardent teaching career and the thrill of competitive running. Discover the man who ties his running shoes with purpose and teaches with the same fervor, a true testament to the power of dedication in multifaceted lives.This episode transcends the mere recounting of races and training regimes as we traverse the thought-provoking trails of competitive strategy, environmental stewardship, and the profound meaning that running injects into our existence. Listen to Brian's tactics, like meticulously knowing each twist of a trail and how such preparation can result in improved performance. As we navigate the environmental concerns that come hand-in-hand with the sport's popularity, the episode paints a holistic picture of the future of trail running within the delicate dance of conservation and community engagement.Wrap up your laces for an inspirational sprint through the ethos and aspirations of the trail running community. We celebrate the diversity of stories within our ranks, from the legends who've paved the way to the everyday runners finding their 'why.' Brian and I engage in a vibrant dialogue that transcends the race course, touching on the significance of sharing narratives from across the spectrum of experience, fostering an inspiring, collective energy that fuels our own personal quests in the great outdoors.Brian Whitfield IG - bwhitfield_
Jacob Skraba | A Tale of Mountain Running Mastery and Resilience
Apr 5 2024
Jacob Skraba | A Tale of Mountain Running Mastery and Resilience
Send us a Text Message.Embark on an auditory adventure with Jacob Skraba, an extraordinary mountain runner who has swiftly ascended to the zenith of trail and ultra running. Our conversation dances through Jacob's season of triumphs, from conquering the Leadville 10K to his remarkable endeavors at the Leadville 100 and Black Canyon 100k. With roots stretching back to Northern Minnesota, Jacob's tale is one of transformation—a former non-runner who discovered his calling among Eugene's roads and Bend's trails, all the way to his high-altitude haven in Silverthorne, Colorado. His narrative intertwines with the art of architecture, revealing how his professional life fuels his thirst for the great outdoors.As we traverse the landscape of Jacob's racing strategies and experiences, we get an authentic taste of the mental fortitude and physical resilience vital to ultramarathon success. He unravels the intricacies of high-elevation running, nutrition tactics and the invaluable support of a dedicated crew. Jacob's reflections on the Leadville series paint a vivid panorama of the ultrarunning community—a tapestry of gear choices, strategy, and the electric atmosphere of the finish line that pulses with the heartbeats of its competitors.The episode reaches its crescendo as we debate the greatest of all time in sub-ultra mountain running, navigating the accomplishments of emerging talents and venerating established elites. From the raw energy of race starting lines to the euphoric release at the finish, Jacob's story is not just about personal triumphs but the collective spirit of runners who push beyond their limits. Whether you're a seasoned trail runner or simply a lover of captivating journeys of passion and perseverance, lace up for an episode that promises to inspire and ignite your adventurous spirit.Jacob Skraba - IG - @skraba.runs
Ace Brown | Trail Magic and Peak Performance, Mountain Running and Community Spirit
Mar 29 2024
Ace Brown | Trail Magic and Peak Performance, Mountain Running and Community Spirit
Send us a Text Message.There's something magical about the trails, and Ace Brown just confirmed that for me all over again. From his start on the flat tracks of Florida to the rugged terrain of Colorado's peaks, Ace's transition into mountain running is as much a testament to the sport as it is to the human spirit. Join us as we trek through his journey, laugh at the inception of the Cut the Cheese Run Club, and examine what it truly means to lace up and hit the mountain trails. Witness the camaraderie that binds runners together, the races that set their hearts pounding, and the moments of personal triumph that can't be measured by a finish line.Ever wondered what draws an artist to the mountains? Ace, a Savannah College of Art and Design alumnus, paints a vivid picture of how a diverse environment and the mentorship of coach Patrick Reagan shaped his athletic path. As we trace Ace's footsteps from collegiate competition to the buzz of Colorado's mountain running scene, the conversation reveals the energizing spirit of athletes that gather in places where the air is thin but the community is thick. It's a narrative that'll have you itching to join a run club or at the very least, cheer on those who brave the elements to run where the eagles dare.Looking into the heart of mountain and trail racing, we uncover how the sport thrives beyond just the physical challenge — it's an economic conundrum, a strategic game, and a narrative of friendships built on shared struggles and triumphs. Ace delves into the economics of the sport, the rise of mountain racing, and the delicate dance of competition amongst friends. And with a scoop on the latest footwear trends to strategies on mastering the descent, this episode is like the trail mix of mountain running wisdom—packed with insights, surprises, and the kind of energy that keeps you going long after the race is over.Check out Ace on his Instagram at - @acebrownrunningCheck out Colorado Springs' newest run group led by Ace - The Cut the Cheese Run Club on Instagram at - @cutthecheeserc and Strava at Cut the Cheese Run Club
Ascending Ambition: Nick Tusa's Journey from Golf Greens to Mountain Running Dreams
Mar 22 2024
Ascending Ambition: Nick Tusa's Journey from Golf Greens to Mountain Running Dreams
Send us a Text Message.When you chase the horizon across rugged peaks, every stride tells a story of grit and ambition. That's the tale Nick Tusa, an inspiring mountain runner, brings to our latest episode. Nick takes us from the greens of competitive golf to the trails of Colorado, sharing his transformation into a trailblazing athlete. His pursuit of community and self-discovery through mountain running is nothing short of contagious. Together, we uncover the thrills of his racing season, including podium finishes that mark the milestones of his burgeoning career. Nick's narrative is a rich tapestry of personal evolution, where every hill climbed is a metaphor for life's many challenges.Strap on your running shoes and prepare for an emotional sprint as we recount the strategies and successes that define high-level competition. Nick opens up about the mental toughness required when toeing the start line, the strategy behind consecutive race weekends, and the joy of celebrating achievements with fellow trail runners. Our conversation takes a turn towards the intense focus and presence needed in the throes of shorter, high-intensity races, as well as the unique trials of running at high altitudes. It's a tale of physical and psychological tenacity, where the highs of a first-place finish and the lows of pushing through oxygen-deprived climbs intertwine.Beyond the trails, we explore the pulsing heart of mountain running culture, from the quest for FKTs to the dream of donning the USA jersey at international competitions. Nick's experiences with setting astonishing FKTs and the role models who fuel his fire reveal an athlete laser-focused on his long-term goals. We also celebrate the community that has shaped him, highlighting the promise of emerging talents and the women who are redefining the sport. Closing out, we shine a spotlight on Nick's social media escapades, where his passion for the peaks and his quest for brand partnerships come to life. Join us for a journey that not only maps the contours of a runner's heart but also charts a course through the inspiring landscape of mountain running.Nick can be contacted via Instagram - @nick.tusa
Pushing Limits with Sean Rimmer The Intersection of Running and Wellness
Mar 12 2024
Pushing Limits with Sean Rimmer The Intersection of Running and Wellness
Send us a Text Message.Feeling the pulse of the trail beneath my feet, I've often wondered about the stories that each runner carries with them—their triumphs, their struggles, and the wisdom born from both. In our latest episode, that curiosity comes to life as we chat with Sean Rimmer, a physical therapist with a penchant for mountain running and a heart set on the Buffalo Marathon. Sean's tale is one of athletic evolution, a journey from college lacrosse to the challenging peaks of ultra-running. We traverse not just his personal milestones but also unravel his professional insights into staving off the injuries that can derail a runner's dreams.Imagine feeling the wind on your face, the wild terrain stretching out before you, as you push through one more mile—this is where Sean and I find our common ground. Our conversation navigates the rugged beauty of the Royal Gorge, the rush of pre-race nerves, and the meticulous strategies behind our training regimens. There's a shared excitement in our voices as we talk about upcoming races and the allure of remote challenges like the Alaskan Cirque series. This episode isn't just about the exhilaration of the sport; it's a testament to the meticulous preparation and the often-overlooked importance of bone health and nutrition that keeps us runners in prime racing form.But what happens when the trail ends and the only footsteps you hear are those of mystery? Sean and I don't shy away from the playful side of running lore, exploring tales of Bigfoot sightings, the whispers of grizzlies in Colorado, and the enigmatic presence of the unknown that can make a runner's heartbeat quicken for reasons beyond physical exertion. So, whether you're lacing up your running shoes for the hundredth time, dreaming of your first marathon finish line, or simply indulging in the legends of the trail, this episode promises a blend of grounded advice and wild wonderment.Sean can be contacted both on his website and Instagram - Run Potential PT Instagram - @runpotentialpt Site -  www.runpotentialpt.com