The Future of Podcasting

Dave Jackson & Daniel J. Lewis

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What If YouTube Music Succeeds?
Apr 18 2024
What If YouTube Music Succeeds?
Join us for an eye-opening journey into the future of podcasting in this episode titled "What if YouTube Podcasts Succeeds?" As we navigate the swirling currents of possibilities, your hosts, Daniel J. Lewis and Dave Jackson dive into a sea of burning questions and bold predictions. What would the long-term repercussions be in a world where Google Podcasts outruns its competitors? The hosts will consider this scenario, examining potential outcomes and opportunities for creators and users. We share his firsthand experience with YouTube Music, giving a quick test to understand the user interface and the integration of podcasts. Meanwhile, Dave brings the perspective of audiobooks on Spotify to the table, drawing comparisons and outlining the benefits and caveats of diversifying content types. Indulge in a thought experiment with us โ€” "What If It Was Good?" โ€” contemplating the ideal scenario of Google mastering podcast integration. Your Hosts Find Dave at schoolofpodcasting.com Find Daniel at theaudacitytopodcast.com NEW TO BITCOIN? Check out our resources at leadingthebleeding.com/resources FOLLOW THE SHOW Apple - Spotify - Podcast Guru - Castomatic Support The Show Daniel Podgagement - Boost Your Audience Engagement Social Subscribe and Follow Plugin Dave Buy Dave a Coffee  Join the School of Podcasting Profit From Your Podcast Book   Mentioned In This Episode The Audacity to Podcast School of Podcasting Million Dollar Weekend Book (aff) Bible.com - FREE  Amazon Kindle Reader Start Ugly Book
What Activity Streams Could Enable in Podcasting
Mar 20 2024
What Activity Streams Could Enable in Podcasting
Dave is out on this episode, and Sam Sethi from Truefans.fm joins Daniel to geek out on Activity Steams and Activity Pub and break it down to find the pros and cons.  "The holy grail of podcasting is cross-app comments. The idea of being able to make a comment in one app and then have a comment in another app, and then they synchronize over a single episode."โ€” Sam Sethi  Your Hosts Find Dave at schoolofpodcasting.com Find Daniel at theaudacitytopodcast.com  Find Sam at truefans.fm (a great way to get access to ALL the 2.0 features) Mentioned In This Episode Evan Prodromou on ActivityPub; Gretchen Smith on Ad Results Media https://weekly.podnews.net/1538779/14700579-evan-prodromou-on-activitypub-gretchen-smith-on-ad-results-media   Activity Pub Book by Evan Prodromou https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/activitypub/9781098162733/  Activity Streams 2.0 https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-core/  The Audacity to Podcast School of Podcasting TrueFans.fm  Podgagement Chapters 00:00:51 - Activity Stream Vs Activity Pub  00:04:31 - Daniel's Translation 00:05:02 - What's the Potential 00:07:30 - Playback and Completion 00:10:50 - Understanding Mastedon 00:14:45 - Different Servers? 00:16:14 - TLV Records 00:18:57 - Privacy Concerns 00:22:33 - Centralized and Decentralized Performance 00:27:13 - Publishing and Pushing 00:28:32 - Comment Moderation 00:35:26 - Are Boostagrams Public? 00:36:27 - Lightbulb Moment 00:38:11 - Separating Data and Payments 00:41:37 - Just Ditch RSS? 00:42:31 - Truefans and Podgagement 00:44:01 - Because It is a Standard 00:48:01 - Yes, Sam Built Them All 00:49:53 - Progressive Web App 00:52:27 - Daniel is On Board 00:53:12 - Different Types of Streams 00:55:58 - You Won't Have to Learn This 00:57:08 - Sam's Challenge
Going LIT with the Live Item Tag
Jan 24 2024
Going LIT with the Live Item Tag
In this episode, hosts Daniel J. Lewis and Dave Jackson explore the concept of "live item tagging" and its potential to revolutionize podcasting. Join them as they discuss the technical intricacies of incorporating live streaming into podcast episodes, the future integration of live experiences into podcast apps, and the implications of the "live item tag" for both podcasters and listeners. Your Hosts Find Dave at schoolofpodcasting.com Find Daniel at theaudacitytopodcast.com   Mentioned In This Episode The Audacity to Podcast School of Podcasting Radiolize Code For Live Item Alby   Why is it called the Live Item?  The term "Live Item Tag" in the podcasting world, also known as "lit," represents an innovation that aims to integrate the live experience from platforms like YouTube into podcast apps. This feature allows listeners to seamlessly tap and jump to listen or watch live content while a podcast is being recorded, effectively bringing the live experience directly to the podcast app. What It Does The Live Item Tag replaces the traditional "item" tag in an RSS feed and utilizes attributes such as "pending," "live," or "ended" to notify podcast apps of the live status of an episode. Essentially, it bridges the gap between live streaming platforms and podcast apps, enabling a smoother and more integrated experience for both podcasters and listeners. Status Options When using the Live Item Tag, podcasters can update the status of their episodes as "pending," "live," or "ended," providing real-time information to listeners about the live status of a particular episode. This functionality enhances engagement and allows for a more dynamic and interactive podcast experience within the app. Do We Need To Worry About This? Considering the future progression of podcasting technology, integrating live streaming experiences into podcast apps seems to be a natural evolution. While the current implementation may have its complexities, future tools and platforms are expected to simplify the process, making it more accessible to podcasters. Coding 2.0 In Libsyn 4 You can add code in Libsyn Four. If you don't know what you're doing, we do not recommend this.  Show or Episode Level The use of the Live Item Tag can be implemented at both the show and episode levels, providing flexibility for podcasters to enhance their content with live streaming. This granularity enables precise control over which episodes are presented as live, offering a tailored approach to audience engagement. What Apps Support This? Several podcast apps, including True Fans, Podverse, and Podcast Guru, are embracing the Live Item Tag feature, acknowledging its potential to transform the podcast listening experience. This reflects a growing interest and demand for integrating live streaming functionalities within podcast platforms. See www.modernpodcastapps.com Streaming Radio Radiolize The mention of streaming radio, particularly its popularity in Europe and the use of online tools for online DJing, showcases the broader landscape of live audio experiences. This acknowledgment underscores the potential for integrating diverse live content into podcasts, catering to varied listener preferences and interests. See Radiolize.com Content Link The addition of the "podcast:content link" tag further expands the possibilities for linking live content, such as streaming URLs from platforms that provide those links (Mixlr? Radiolize?). This tag acts as a fallback for non-podcast app streaming, diversifying the avenues through which listeners can access live experiences. The Tricky Part? While the Live Item Tag presents a forward-looking solution, its implementation may require careful consideration and technical acumen, especially when dealing with platforms that have yet to fully adopt this technology. However, as the podcasting ecosystem evolves, the tools and processes surrounding the Live Item Tag are expected to become more user-friendly. I Think I Understand It Now Understanding the Live Item Tag involves recognizing its role in seamlessly blending live streaming experiences with traditional podcast episodes within podcast apps. This realization positions podcasters and content creators to deliver more engaging and dynamic content, catering to the evolving preferences of listeners. Still Pretty Cutting Edge at This Time It's important to acknowledge that the Live Item Tag is currently at the cutting edge of podcasting technology. Its emerging status highlights the ongoing evolution and exploration of new avenues for enhancing the podcasting experience, as well as the potential for further advancements in this space. You Can Have More Than One The flexibility to incorporate multiple content links with different text descriptions or purposes accentuates the versatility of the Live Item Tag. This capability enables podcasters to curate and present diverse live-streaming experiences, catering to their specific content and audience engagement strategies. Alby is Invite Only For Now The mention of Alby, an invite-only platform, underlines the exclusive and progressive nature of the Live Item Tag landscape. This exclusivity hints at the exploration and experimental nature of this feature, as well as its potential to shape the future podcasting ecosystem. BOOSTS! The concept of receiving "streams" and "boostagrams" from listeners highlights the reciprocal and interactive nature of podcasting, indicating a community-driven approach to content creation. This interactivity aligns with the essence of the Live Item Tag, which seeks to foster real-time engagement and connections between podcasters and their audience. In conclusion, the Live Item Tag represents a significant advancement in the integration of live streaming experiences within podcast apps. While it currently stands at the forefront of podcasting technology, its potential to reshape the podcasting landscape and elevate audience engagement is evident. As this innovative feature continues to evolve, podcasters and content creators can anticipate a more seamlessly integrated live podcasting experience, redefining the future of podcasting.
Navigating the Future of Podcasting Apps on Android
Oct 18 2023
Navigating the Future of Podcasting Apps on Android
Today, we dive into the fascinating topic of the future of podcasting on Android. We'll explore key insights and facts surrounding this subject, including the transition from Google Podcasts to YouTube Music, the challenges and opportunities for developers, and the implications for podcasters and listeners. We'll discuss the native app dilemma between YouTube Music and Google Podcasts, while dusting off and old friend called Subscribe on Android. The episode will uncover the complexities and challenges of Android development, with its numerous versions and compatibility issues. We'll weigh the benefits and costs for podcasters considering partnering with YouTube Music and examine the thought that this may be GOOD for podcasting.   Your Hosts Find Dave at schoolofpodcasting.com Find Daniel at theaudacitytopodcast.com   NEW TO BITCOIN? Check out our resources at leadingthebleeding.com/resources   NEW PODCAST APPS Listen to this podcast on any of the fine value enabled app at www.newpodcastapps.com   Mentioned In This Episode The Audacity to Podcast School of Podcasting Podcast Apps on Android  https://play.google.com/store/search?q=podcasts&c=apps Buzzsprout Stats https://www.buzzsprout.com/stats Transistor Stats https://transistor.fm/global-stats/ Adam Bowie on YouTube and Podcasts https://www.adambowie.com/blog/2023/09/youtube-and-podcasts/  Subscribe On Android https://www.subscribeonandroid.com  More information on our website at www.thefutureofpodcasting.net/31
Deplatforming Does Not Always Equal Censorship
Aug 23 2023
Deplatforming Does Not Always Equal Censorship
Deplatforming has become a buzzword that often sparks debates about censorship. The recent case of Glenn Beck, a popular conservative radio and podcast host, being removed from Apple Podcasts raised questions about the extent of free speech and the role of centralized platforms. However "deplatforming" incidents are not always rooted in censorship. In this episode, we delve into the complexities behind podcast removals, exploring the Glenn Beck Program case, communication issues with Apple Podcasts, and the need for improved strategies within the podcasting community. The Glenn Beck Program Removed from Apple Podcasts: Glenn Beck's removal from Apple Podcasts garnered significant attention due to its knee-jerk association with censorship concerns. However, it is important to differentiate between removal due to potential violations and outright censorship. While the details of the violation were not uncovered until later, it highlights the complexity surrounding podcast removals and the need to respect trademark and copyright laws. Was it a Technical Issue? Initially, it was speculated that the removal of the Glenn Beck Program was a technical glitch because there were certainly technical problems with his podcast RSS feed. These included the size (11.5 MB, which led to stability issues), redundant data, and a large cover art file size. We were surprised it actually wasn't a technical issue after all and that his show even worked before this takedown! A Trademark Violation was to Blame In the case of the Glenn Beck Program, it was the trademark rights holder who complained to Apple (after not getting the demanded action from Glenn Beck's team), prompting the removal. While this action can be seen as an appropriate response to a trademark violation, it also raises questions about whether podcast hosting providers should be the central point for addressing trademark issues rather than relying solely on the platforms, like Apple Podcasts. Apple Doesn't Always Communicate Well One recurring issue surrounding podcast removals, in general, is the lack of effective communication from Apple Podcasts. The lack of specific details regarding technical issues or policy violations has led to confusion and panic within the podcasting community. Improved communication channels and transparency would be beneficial in addressing concerns and avoiding the spread of fear, accusations, and misunderstandings. Deplatforming: Centralized versus Decentralized The Beck incident highlights the debate between centralized and decentralized podcasting platforms. While centralized platforms like Apple Podcasts and Spotify offer the benefit of potential notifications for issues, they also hold the power to remove content without clear guidelines or explanations. This raises concerns about potential censorship when the content is the least bit controversial (no matter which political direction it leans). On the other hand, decentralized catalogs like Podcast Index offer more freedom and less likelihood of corporate- or government-driven censorship. Podcast-Hosting Providers Need to Handle Problems Better To mitigate the risks of sudden removals, podcast-hosting providers should play a more proactive role in addressing issues. They should be monitoring feeds for potential problems or even disallowing problematic stuff to be uploaded in the first place, such as large images or invalid HTML or RSS. Any of these, and more technical errors, can lead to removals or performance problems on major podcast apps and directories. Additionally, hosting providers should take the lead in resolving trademark or copyright concerns and ensure ample communication with podcasters to avoid unnecessary panic. Make Yourself Easy to Contact! Podcasters need to be easily reachable when issues arise. Including contact information within podcast feeds and ensuring that email addresses are not removed can facilitate communication with hosting providers and mitigate the risk of immediate removal without proper dialogue. But removing email addresses from feeds helps protect podcasters' privacy. So no matter what, have a clearly labeled contact page on your website! Ensure Your Feed Is Working! Technical issues lead to most podcast removals. We advise podcasters to maintain separate feeds for their podcasts, especially if they use the same publishing tool for blogging. This practice can help mitigate the risk of feed issues, including offline feeds or missing episodes. An Environment of Oversensitivity This incident also reflects a growing climate of oversensitivity, where legal concerns or even technical issues are misinterpreted as censorship. While there are legitimate cases of censorship, it is crucial to separate these instances from other challenges podcasters face. Never Let a Good Catastrophe Go to Waste: The podcasting community can learn valuable lessons from incidents like the Glenn Beck removal. Along with other negative events like a DDOS attack, a negative review, or something else, even deplatforming can provide opportunities for stronger calls to action in other areas. Boostagrams Adam Curry sent 25,000ยง and said: "Advertising induces self-censorship, which I consider to be a mental illness." Your hosts Find Dave at schoolofpodcasting.com Find Daniel at theaudacitytopodcast.com Mentioned in this episode Glenn Beck's video post on X Details on the trademark issue from Podnews Podcast Industry Insights The Audacity to Podcast School of Podcasting Test your podcast feed with Cast Feed Validator or Podbase Podcast Validator Chapters 00:00:47 - The Glenn Beck Program removed from Apple Podcasts 00:06:12 - Was it a technical issue? 00:11:20 - A trademark violation was to blame 00:14:57 - Apple doesn't always communicate well 00:21:35 - Deplatforming: centralized versus decentralized 00:24:36 - Podcast-hosting providers need to handle problems better 00:29:31 - Make yourself easy to contact! 00:34:21 - Ensure your feed is working! 00:35:20 - An environment of oversensitivity 00:36:57 - Never let a good catastrophe go to waste 00:40:41 - Boostagrams
The Future of Podcasting We DON'T Want
Aug 9 2023
The Future of Podcasting We DON'T Want
In today's episode, we dive deep into the challenges and potential pitfalls that lie ahead in the podcasting industry.  From the recent episode where Lex Friedman interviewed Kanye West, despite the track record of quality content, to the unpredictable nature of influencer marketing, we explore the unexpected events that can occur and the importance of having a plan in place. We delve into the potential dangers of political bias in podcasting platforms and the importance of transparency and conscious decision-making. But that's not all โ€“ we also examine the overwhelming world of podcast advertising, the rise of scoring systems and their implications, and the impact of limiting controversial voices on podcasts. We discuss the fine line between brand safety and censorship and the potential consequences of excessive monitoring and scoring. Are you ready to dive deep into the future we don't want for podcasting? Strap in and join us for this incredibly insightful and thought-provoking episode. Leave a review on our website, futureofpodcasting.net, and let us know your thoughts on the topics discussed. So sit back, relax, and let's explore the future of podcasting together! Your Hosts Find Dave at schoolofpodcasting.com Find Daniel at theaudacitytopodcast.com   Mentioned In This Episode The Audacity to Podcast School of Podcasting Morality Clauses in Podcasting? Gordon Firemark New Media Show with Todd Cochran and Rob Greenlee The Advertising Playbook with Heather Osgood Podnews - Podcast Industry News with James Cridland Time Codes 00:00:17 - The Future That We Don't Want  00:01:06 - Who Will Be Effected By Future Changes? 00:02:52 - You Have To Let Your Audience Know What You Do 00:03:14 - Ads Per Episode 00:05:36 - Seizure Inducing 00:07:47 - 30% is NOT the Goal 00:09:48 - Brand Sustainability  00:12:26 - Really? This is Where We Are Headed? 00:16:08 - What About Bias? 00:17:17 - Who Decides What is True? 00:17:38 - Do I Care About the Political Stance of a Hammer? 00:18:15 - Interpretations vs Facts 00:21:09 - Cultural Issues  00:24:25 - Policies Will Get Worse 00:25:30 - All or Nothing Mentality 00:26:40 - Companies Policing Podcasting 00:31:29 - Let The Audience Decide 00:33:01 - Cancel Corporate 00:33:33 - Does Kanye = Bad?  00:36:27 - What Happened To Dialogue? 00:38:32 - Your Score in the Future 00:39:23 - Corporate FM (aff) 00:40:05 - A Three Star Review  00:41:41 - Pocketcasts Ratings 00:42:26 - Boostagrams As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases
Podroll Lets You List Other Podcasts
Jun 27 2023
Podroll Lets You List Other Podcasts
On this episode of Future of Podcasting, hosts Daniel J. Lewis and Dave Jackson discuss the new podcast recommendation feature called Podroll. While there are concerns of overwhelming users with too many options, the speakers also discuss its potential benefits for personal curation of recommendations. Theyalso discuss the simplicity and ease of implementing the Podcasting 2.0 ecosystem tag format while advocating for extensibility. Additionally, we explore the potential for podcasters to sponsor and advertise their own podcasts through Podroll partnerships. Lastly, they discuss the slow process of integrating the new tool but anticipate exciting user feedback. Your Hosts Find Dave at schoolofpodcasting.com Find Daniel at theaudacitytopodcast.com   NEW TO BITCOIN? Check out our resources at leadingthebleeding.com/resources NEW PODCAST APPS Listen to this podcast on any of the fine value enabled app at www.newpodcastapps.com  Topics 00:00:00 - Opening 00:00:22 - What is a Podroll? 00:02:30 - Human Vs Algorithm 00:05:10 - Who Will Sell Their Podroll First? 00:06:24 - Daniel's Issues With the Tag 00:06:46 - Where Did the Name Come From? 00:07:40 - Publishers Can Rename It 00:09:35 - Potential Uses 00:12:27 - Poddroll in the Wild 00:15:02 - How Do I Use It? 00:18:00 - What Would Be In Your Podroll? 00:21:45 - How Will App Developers Handle This? 00:22:35 - Will This Help Discovery? Mentioned In This Episode Phase 6 Podroll tag Podnews Example Podpage (aff)