Today, Elizabeth and Nicole are having cocktails with composer Joseph Hallman, who is splitting his time between his hometown of Philadelphia and Miami these days. Between sips, he catches us up on how he survived the pandemic, explores his extensive catalog of compositional gifts, and shares some very generous thoughts on dealing with anxiety and growing older and wiser. http://www.josephhallman.com/ Hallman, four pieces: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIBCnHS41d4 ASALTO NAVIDENO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP2JPuwhnyE Bjork, Body Memory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXPDeUN03Qs Bjork, Crystalline: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Y8OVYBRUo --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

Get to know Zara Lawler, aka The Flute on Its Feet, in this amazing chat featuring tales of serendipity, the porousness of her artistic boundaries, and a mini-history of the dancing flutist! With projects ranging from farm concerts in rural Massachusetts to choreographing the Bach B minor Suite in New York City, this fascinating conversation will provide you with the most perfect, midweek creative shot in the arm. zaralawler.com Hailstork, Flute Set: https://youtu.be/BJau0QYLd7E Reverse Busking: https://youtu.be/zFYfSS7cQp8?si=22drbQLYr3BG5Hk6 Symmetrical Lives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJEgXw7FN1g Minuet for goats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgLx5o8-74U Azonto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q_ralziDS4 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

Flutist-composer Tim Hagen discusses the personal “sonic encyclopedia” that guides his performance style, explains why all performers should compose, and encourages us to explore our “why” in a carefully crafted mission statement. We think his dream collaborations will surprise and inspire you, and there’s a great sneak peek at his upcoming projects (oh so many!) along with his favorite advice from composer Adolphus Hailstork.  https://www.timothyhagen.com/ Matthew Syed, Bounce: https://www.matthewsyed.co.uk/book/bounce-the-myth-of-talent-and-the-power-of-practice/ Carol Dweck, Mindset: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2006-08575-000 William Westney, The Perfect Wrong Note: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/27585 Soper, Only the Words Themselves Mean What They Say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVWHGx-LRL4 Alex Temple, Willingly: https://alextemplemusic.com/2013/02/willingly/ Schoenberg, Gurrelieder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiC_gudbtvc --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

Today, Elizabeth and Nicole get some much-needed, soul-searching inspiration from composer Carter Pann. We talk about the value of not being perfect in your youth, the complicated beauty of embracing identity in your work, and Carter shares some great advice about ways to stay curious for adventurers of all ages. Trigger warning: we may or may not dunk on social media.  https://www.carterpann.com/ Charles Wuorinen, The Golden Dance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehdYwbTAHn4 Paul Schoenberg, Pierrot Lunaire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48WnNgrH57E Fred Lerdahl, Fantasy Etudes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUIE4Q_QOKk Steve Reich, Double Sextet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4ITDgWp_gQ Olivier Messiaen, Quartet for the End of Time:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYpBHc8px_U Igor Stravinsky, Octet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFUUWFf7QOw --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

Composer KEVIN DAY is a winner of the BMI Student Composer Award, a three-time finalist for the ASCAP Morton Gould Young Composer Award, and was shortlisted for the 2022 Pulitzer Prize, and he’s not yet 30. Today the young professor and composer-about-town talks about his family musical legacy, juggling the beginning of an academic career while finishing his student days with a bang (his DMA dissertation for University of Miami is slated to be an opera he has been commissioned to write), and considers what today’s music students need to be successful. When asked about his heroes, Beyonce, Kendrick Lamar, and Tyler the Creator do make appearances, alongside Jennifer Higdon and John Coltrane in this wonderfully eclectic exploration of styles and inspirations.  Kevin Day: https://www.kevindaymusic.com/ Tania Leon: http://www.tanialeon.com/ Marcos Balter: https://marcosbalter.com/ Demondrae Thurmon: https://music.indiana.edu/faculty/current/thurman-demondrae.html  Cubauza: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYfLnaqrMQo  Data Lords: https://www.mariaschneider.com/home/discography Symphony #3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wekB1fyR8p4 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

Ever wonder how FNMC’s Composition Competition came into existence? Today Nicole talks with Elizabeth, who runs the competition, about how we determine categories, choose finalists, and the elements of the competition that perhaps make it most uniquely FNMC: our commitment to repeatedly programming winning pieces, and the membership vote that drives the whole shebang. Composers looking to learn more about FNMC’s Composition Competition, or in search of some helpful tips for any competition, this one is required listening for you! (PS, Elizabeth won the Graduate Research Competition hosted by NFA, not FNMC, but you probably already knew that.) --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

Composer and University of Florida professor Paul Richards likes a big canvas! Today he chats with Elizabeth and Nicole about the limitlessness of the recording studio, reimaging his classical works as prog rock music for his album, Rough Translations, and elaborates on one of his guiding principles as an artist: “The world doesn’t need more beautiful things, but rather an expanded concept of what is beautiful.”  paulrichardsmusic.com Arvo Part, My Heart’s in the Highlands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tM9uPq_20k Sarah Kirkland Snider, The Unremembered: https://www.sarahkirklandsnider.com/albums/unremembered Dr. John, Right Place Wrong Time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4PjWgiH-LQ&pp=ygUIZHIuIGpvaG4%3D --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

Elizabeth and Nicole discuss their experiences attending new music festivals (with heavy–and admiring–emphasis on New Music Gathering) and explain their own process in programming FNMC’s New Music Festival. There are some great tips here for developing winning proposals, as well as a reveal of our upcoming NMF dates! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

This conversation with flutist, composer, and educator MELISSA KEELING is like your daily dose of OM. Today, she chats with Nicole and Elizabeth about her world-altering move from the South to New York City to study with Robert Dick, the value of establishing authentic relationships in the business (saying it louder for the people in the back), and she encourages us to embrace the F Word (FUN)! Listen for some hot tips on getting started on the glissando headjoint, incorporating electronics into performances, and the value of a good jaw harp lesson.  https://www.melissakeeling.com/ Robert Dick, Flames Must Not Encircle the Sides: https://www.justflutes.com/shop/product/flames-must-not-encircle-sides-robert-dick AP AAMP:https://www.asburyamp.org/ Mike Mower, Doing Time: https://www.itchyfingers.com/view-IFP_041 Pink Floyd, Comfortably Numb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FrOQC-zEog Grateful Dead, Help on the Way / Slipknot! / Franklin’s Tower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INzyBz1Ts1s --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

Deep Listening® Facilitator, flutist, composer, and scholar JANE RIGLER joins us today to walk us through a Deep listening session, share the fascinations of living abroad, and drop some sneaky advice on making yourself indispensable in the workplace. Jane calls herself a storyteller and a connector; we would like to humbly add brilliant philosopher to that list. Referenced inspirations: Pauline Oliveros, Laurie Anderson, Meredith Monk, Wade Matthews, Steve Fernandez, Butch Morris, Walter Thomspon, and Peter Kowald. https://janerigler.com  https://www.deeplistening.rpi.edu/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

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ANNE GUZZO, composer and creator/director of The Wyoming Festival: New Music in the Mountains, talks with us today about creating music to teach us about our responsibilities to the planet, making art music meaningful through the personal, and breaking down barriers in the classical arts. She also shares some insights on her recent break with academia and explores her experiences as a woman, and a native of “flyover country” in the classical music world.  https://anneguzzo.com Del’Shawn Taylor: https://www.delshawntaylor.com/ Andy Akiho: https://www.andyakiho.com/ Shawna Wolf: https://shawnawolf.com/home/ Shepard Symposium:https://shepardsymposium.weebly.com/ Music from Angel Fire:https://musicfromangelfire.org/ The Wyoming Festival: https://www.facebook.com/WyomingFestival/about --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

MEGAN IHNEN, a genuine American treasure, joins us today and we all marvel over the magic of internet relationships, namely the coaching she’s done with Elizabeth! Megan has some sage advice that she’s developed from her years as a career coach and an admirable ability to juggle coaching, commissioning, and performing. Elizabeth takes us through her coaching experience with Megan (a bit of a coaching reunion, if you will), and Megan gives us a bird’s eye view of her incredibly unique artistic activities, as well.  https://meganihnen.com Peter Lieberson, Neruda Songs: https://www.npr.org/2006/12/30/6696483/liebersons-neruda-songs-tracing-loves-arc  GRiZ, Airplane Mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNepCLQ7gqs Michael Lanci, Songs for Joe Hill: https://www.michaellanci.com/songs-for-joe-hill.html --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

JENNIFER PIAZZA-PICK is currently Assistant Professor of Music (Voice) at Queens University of Charlotte. She regularly performs vocal chamber music and co-founded the chamber ensemble Whistling Hens, a soprano-clarinet duo which champions music by women composers. Their first album, Reacting to the Landscape, features the works of 7 living American women composers. Today Jennifer shares her later-than-some origins story in the new music world, discusses her processes (of commissioning, collaborating, and learning her parts!), and gives some amazing guidance to us all about staying curious and brave.  https://www.jenniferpiazzapick.com Pretty Yende: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar7HGBg5o3k --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

KIMBERLY OSBERG truly lives by her mantra, “original music for anyone, anywhere”. Today she visits with Elizabeth and Nicole about her love of chamber music, the secrets to her relationship success with her performers, and how she came to write music for combat scenes (!) A genuine life learner and giver of musical gifts, Kim builds upon her omnivorous liberal arts education to stay forever fascinated by all walks of life and advocate for new music at all age and ability levels.  https://kimberlyosberg.com/ George N. Gianopoulos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVmxzvy0qErh8ckRJB88qjA Spirited Away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig-h-5bD2P0 Pedro Infante - Cien Años: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqfFPEToslA --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

JESSICA RUDMAN is a collaboration queen! Elizabeth and Nicole met her back in March 2023 at the Music By Women Festival in Mississippi, where she had multiple pieces performed, and just had to know more. Besides claiming a heap of composition awards and residencies, Jessica teaches at University of Utah. Today, she talks to us about writing meaningful music for these meaningful times, remaining flexible in her creative vision, and fills us in on some exciting upcoming projects! https://www.jessicarudman.com/ Elizabeth Hamilton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Hamilton_(writer) American Academy of Poets / Poem of the Day: https://poets.org/poem-a-day Kendra Preston Leonard: https://kendraprestonleonard.hcommons.org/ Rhiannon Giddens: https://rhiannongiddens.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

File this one under career advice–we’re back after a lil’ summer break, and getting ready to gig again! Nicole muses on the privilege on display at music festivals and mourns the dying art of supporting each other in the audience. Elizabeth shares some hot takes on the hierarchy of hotel stays and she and Nicole both celebrate having graduated from shower shoes-mandatory motels. And we exhaust the question: how much personal expense do you incur before turning down a gig? Bottom line: it’s hard to play well when you’re dirty and tired.  Brandon Shaw: Startup Musician --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

And networking is haaaard. Elizabeth is looking for an efficient way to shop for new music. Nicole doesn’t really have a solution, but they do dive into a laundry list of helpful organizations who curate their own lists (listeners, add to our directory in the comments to this show!). This leads to a discussion about the usefulness of social media to make new music connections, our own social fails, and the need for flexible instrumentation demands when commissioning from flyover country. (PS, Pierrot Ensemble doesn’t count as practical.) But we agree that we will both play the HECK out of any pieces we manage to wrangle! Oh, and keep listening for Nicole and Elizabeth’s origin story, aaaaaawwwww!!! Boulanger Initiative: https://www.boulangerinitiative.org/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

JANE K (Evgeniya Kozhevnikova) is a composer, pianist, educator and a PhD student in composition from University of Florida. She defies the rigid lines of genre, preferring to  blend genres from classical to jazz and tango. In 2022 she released her latest album, a collection of her art songs called Lift Up Your Hearts. We fell in love with her unique and extremely quaffable style at the Music By Women Festival in March 2023. Today Jane talks about being open to opportunities, her journey from computer technology student in Russia to composer and music educator in the U.S., and gives some great advice on breaking through writer’s block.  https://www.janekmusic.com/ Diana Krall, Greatest Hits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqjrmdNnfCo Sting, Shape of Your Heart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlwIDxCjL-8 Norah Jones, Come Away with Me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbjZPFBD6JU --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support

CHERISE LEITER, composition and theory professor at Metropolitan State University in Denver, won FNMC’s Composition Competition back in 2017 with The Life in a Day for flute, cello, and guitar. She has since been commissioned by FNMC for her solo flute work, a voice silenced, a voice sings, which was given its delayed premiere by our very own Elizabeth Robinson back in February of this year.  Today, Cherise crushes on Ella Fitzgerald and Hildegard von Bingen, educates Nicole on Bardcore, and discusses how the pandemic affected her work as both an artist and an educator. Cherise also wanted to add to that Dr. Michelle Stanley premiered and recorded The Life in a Day and commissioned American Folk Suite, both of which get mentions in this episode. Thank you, Michelle! https://www.cherisedleiter.com/ Dancing Queen, bardcore style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7gN81ZRyBA Stuart Nicholson, Ella Fitzgerald: https://stuartnicholson.uk/books/ella-fitzgerald/ Something to Live For: https://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/ella-fitzgerald-something-to-live-for/590/ How High the Moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw4N8P6c3Ws All of Me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr_EX9Ppfjw The Sun Tones, Watch What Happens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltx2DUQSwA8 Whistling Hens: https://www.whistlinghens.com/ Allison Krauss and Robert Plant, Can’t Let Go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-sPS9y7y5c --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nicole-riner/support