Dear Legal Ops

This week we're getting anonymously comfy with our favorite festive co-hosts as we trade our letters for a holiday highlight reel. On this special holi-slay episode, we're reflecting on a year that taught us sometimes the biggest transformations aren't in your tech stack—they're in having the courage to redefine what's possible. Join Tom & Tommie as they unwrap the greatest hits of 2024, spill the holiday tea on what's brewing for 2025, and remind us all why the Haus of DLO feels less like a podcast and more like chosen family. So grab that festive drink and ugly holiday sweater as we celebrate a year where every messy, beautiful, and gloriously unscripted moment helped write a chapter we'll never forget.    Dear Legal Ops  IG: @dearlegalops  LinkedIn: @dearlegalops  Facebook: @dearlegalops  Twitter: @dearlegalops  TikTok: @dearlegalops  www.dearlegalops.com    Tommie Tavares-Ferreira  Linkedin: @tommie  IG: @suttontell    Tom Stephenson  LinkedIn: @tstephenson1  IG: @tacotacotomtom    This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast  IG: @reddrockmusic  www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this milestone 50th episode of Dear Legal Ops, we welcome Mary O’Carroll, Chief Operating Officer at Goodwin, for a thought-provoking conversation on navigating the highest peaks of a legal ops career. With a career journey that spans Google, Ironclad, and the founding of CLOC, Mary has redefined what it means to lead and innovate in operations and community. Her path to the C-suite is a testament to vision, tenacity, and the power of betting on yourself.  Mary shares her insights on leadership and how building communities creates lasting impact. Whether you’re just starting your climb or looking for new heights in your career, Mary’s story will leave you inspired and equipped to chart your own ascent.    This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Sterling Analytics “Legal Billing Unlocked”    Mary O’Carroll, Chief Operating Officer at Goodwin   LinkedIn: @Mary O’Carroll    Dear Legal Ops  IG: @dearlegalops  LinkedIn: @dearlegalops  Facebook: @dearlegalops  Twitter: @dearlegalops  TikTok: @dearlegalops  www.dearlegalops.com    Tommie Tavares-Ferreira  Linkedin: @tommie  IG: @suttontell    Tom Stephenson  LinkedIn: @tstephenson1  IG: @tacotacotomtom    This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast  IG: @reddrockmusic  www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we’re getting anonymously comfy with Nail-biting Natalie, who’s preparing for her first big step into the C-suite spotlight. Tom and Tommie bring on the dynamic duo of Connie Brenton and Jeff Franke from LegalOps.com to explore what it takes to lead with confidence and clarity. Connie dives into her passion for mentorship, education, and paving the way for in-house leaders to level up their careers, while Jeff discusses the evolving role of AI and how it’s reshaping legal ops. We’ll unpack how to build connections across all the major players—without losing your voice—and why resilience and adaptability are the real keys to thriving in today’s legal landscape.    Connie Brenton – LinkedIn: @conniebrenton  Jeffrey Franke – LinkedIn: @jeffrey-franke-b84566    Dear Legal Ops  IG: @dearlegalops  LinkedIn: @dearlegalops  Facebook: @dearlegalops  Twitter: @dearlegalops  TikTok: @dearlegalops  www.dearlegalops.com    Tommie Tavares-Ferreira  Linkedin: @tommie  IG: @suttontell    Tom Stephenson  LinkedIn: @tstephenson1  IG: @tacotacotomtom    This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast  IG: @reddrockmusic  www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we’re getting anonymously comfy with Britney “Crossroads: The Sequel” Spears and our special guest, Steph Corey, Founder & CEO at UpLevelOps. As Britney stands at a career crossroads, contemplating a leap from in-house to entrepreneurial ventures, we’ll explore the tips, tricks, and trials of making a bold transition. From trailblazing beginnings to fostering mentorship and building your own company, Steph shares her insights on navigating the complex legal ops landscape while staying true to your community and values. Get ready to chart a new course as we dive into the future of executive roles, the ever-evolving career jungle, and the rise of GenAI. So, buckle up for this episode filled with forward-thinking strategies and a few career-defining decisions that will inspire you to make your next move with confidence.    This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io.  Stephanie Corey (CEO & Co-Founder at UpLevel Ops & LINK, Legal Innovators Network)  LinkedIn: @ stephcorey-ulo    Dear Legal Ops  IG: @dearlegalops  LinkedIn: @dearlegalops  Facebook: @dearlegalops  Twitter: @dearlegalops  TikTok: @dearlegalops  www.dearlegalops.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we’re live from The Masters Conference Legal Power Skills, hosted by Rich Robinson. Co-hosts Tom and Tommie, joined by Cat Casey and a live audience, open an anonymous letter from Charlie "Champion-for-Change" Chapman from California. Together, they discuss navigating change and building personal brands in the legal industry, sharing experiences and insights from their careers. Whether battling impostor syndrome or looking to develop meaningful relationships, discover how power skills in the workplace can help you understand your audience, stay true to yourself, and balance data-driven insights with emotional intelligence.      Special thanks to The Masters Conference and Rich Robinson for his expert moderation.    Rich Robinson, Director, Legal Operations and Litigation Support at Toyota North America (LinkedIn: @RichRobinson-Toyota)    Dear Legal Ops  IG: @dearlegalops  LinkedIn: @dearlegalops  Facebook: @dearlegalops  Twitter: @dearlegalops  TikTok: @dearlegalops  www.dearlegalops.com    Tommie Tavares-Ferreira  Linkedin: @tommie  IG: @suttontell    Tom Stephenson  LinkedIn: @tstephenson1  IG: @tacotacotomtom    This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast  IG: @reddrockmusic  www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we're rocketing into the cosmic realm of Legal Ops 3.0 with the ever-brilliant Jenn McCarron, President of the Board of Directors at CLOC and host of the CLOC Talk podcast. As we unravel Taylor “Seeking the Stars” from Tacoma's plea for guidance, Jenn helps us explore the expansive frontier where strategy, innovation, and artificial intelligence intersect. From leveraging AI for data-driven storytelling to mastering the next era of legal ops, Jenn's insights will illuminate the path forward for anyone feeling adrift in their career. Tune in as co-hosts Tom and Tommie join Jenn on this interstellar journey, providing the stellar advice needed to propel your career into the future. Grab your spacesuit and prepare for lift-off into a universe of knowledge, laughs, and cosmic revelations.    LinkedIn: @jennmccarron  Website: www.jennmccarron.com     Dear Legal Ops   IG: @dearlegalops   LinkedIn: @dearlegalops   Facebook: @dearlegalops   Twitter: @dearlegalops   TikTok: @dearlegalops   www.dearlegalops.com      Tommie Tavares-Ferreira   Linkedin: @tommie   IG: @suttontell      Tom Stephenson   LinkedIn: @tstephenson1   IG: @tacotacotomtom      This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast   IG: @reddrockmusic   www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we’re getting anonymously comfy with Melody “Master-or-Mix” from Memphis and the legendary Jenn McCarron, President of CLOC & host of the CLOC Talk podcast. As we lip sync our way through the classic debate of generalist versus specialist, we’ll explore the high notes and harmonies of both paths in the corporate & tech startup world. From mastering multiple instruments to hitting every note perfectly on one, Jenn helps us find the rhythm that suits our careers best. Remember, the greatest achievements come from daring to play your own tune. So tune in for this jam session that promises laughs, insights, and a few unexpected riffs along the way.        Jenn McCarron, Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC)’s Board President  LinkedIn: @jennmccarron  Website: jennmccarron.com     Dear Legal Ops   IG: @dearlegalops   LinkedIn: @dearlegalops   Facebook: @dearlegalops   Twitter: @dearlegalops   TikTok: @dearlegalops   www.dearlegalops.com      Tommie Tavares-Ferreira   Linkedin: @tommie   IG: @suttontell      Tom Stephenson   LinkedIn: @tstephenson1   IG: @tacotacotomtom      This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast   IG: @reddrockmusic   www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we are live from Las Vegas at CLOC’s Global Institute, in the CLOC Talk Studio. As we open our anonymous letter from Dora the Dear Legal Ops Explorer, who’s gearing up for her first trek to the CLOC Global Institute aka CGI. With her backpack strapped and boots laced, Dora asks, “How do I navigate through this labyrinth of knowledge to ensure I discover the hidden treasures and make the most out of this incredible conference experience?” Join co-hosts Tom and Tommie as they divulge starategies for maximizing any conference experience, insights on making meaningful connections, and turning conference learnings into actionable steps for your legal ops journey back home. Whether you’re a first-time attendee or a seasoned conference-goer, get ready to navigate the untold hacks of conference-going with confidence.    Special thank you to CLOC for giving us time in the CLOC Talk Studio and Jenn McCarron, CLOC’s President and CLOC Talk’s host.    CLOC: https://cloc.org/  CLOC Talk: https://cloc.org/cloctalk/    This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io.    Dear Legal Ops  IG: @dearlegalops  LinkedIn: @dearlegalops  Facebook: @dearlegalops  Twitter: @dearlegalops  TikTok: @dearlegalops  www.dearlegalops.com    Tommie Tavares-Ferreira  Linkedin: @tommie  IG: @suttontell    Tom Stephenson  LinkedIn: @tstephenson1  IG: @tacotacotomtom    This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast  IG: @reddrockmusic  www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we're getting comfy with David Cowen, a legendary connector and the mind behind the SOLID Legal Summit. As we open our anonymous letter from a consulting composer, we'll explore the musical world of career development—where the art of improvisation plays the lead role in the symphony of success. David shares his expertise on the power of networking, mentorship, and embracing the jungle gym philosophy of career growth. Join co-hosts Tom & Tommie as they discuss cultivating radical curiosity, embracing the diversity of thought, and finding processes that foster personal and professional advancement. Whether sipping your morning brew or unwinding with an evening drink, prepare to get jazzed up while learning how to harmonize your aspirations with life's unpredictable yet exhilarating rhythms.    This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io.    David Cowen (President, Cowen Group)  LinkedIn: @davidcowen    Dear Legal Ops  IG: @dearlegalops  LinkedIn: @dearlegalops  Facebook: @dearlegalops  Twitter: @dearlegalops  TikTok: @dearlegalops  www.dearlegalops.com    Tommie Tavares-Ferreira  Linkedin: @tommie  IG: @suttontell    Tom Stephenson  LinkedIn: @tstephenson1  IG: @tacotacotomtom    This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast  IG: @reddrockmusic  www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we're getting anonymously comfy with Kim Brown, Project Manager at Netflix while pairing pencils with pinot as we explore the synergistic synergy between educational leadership and corporate management excellence. As we open our letter from Richard 'Detention to Direction' Belding, we'll uncover how principles of teaching and learning can shape and energize a career pivot from the classroom to the corporate boardroom by creating a symbiotic environment where strategy and collaboration flourish. Ready your notebooks and sharpen your minds as we translate teaching triumphs into corporate victories, proving that a good leader can inspire any audience, anywhere.    This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io.  Kim Brown (LinkedIn: @ kbbrown17)    Dear Legal Ops  IG: @dearlegalops  LinkedIn: @dearlegalops  Facebook: @dearlegalops  Twitter: @dearlegalops  TikTok: @dearlegalops  www.dearlegalops.com    Tommie Tavares-Ferreira  Linkedin: @tommie  IG: @suttontell    Tom Stephenson  LinkedIn: @tstephenson1  IG: @tacotacotomtom    This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast  IG: @reddrockmusic  www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we're getting comfy with Grace Medinger, Legal Operations Senior Program Manager at Snapchat. As we open our letter from Tammy "Trusting Tech" Faye Baker under the dazzling lights of Negotiation, Nevada, we sing a melody of music for anyone wondering how to transition from a technology user to savvy purchaser. Navigating the dynamic symphony of technology implementations can be daunting, yet recognizing our knowledge gaps and fostering curiosity within our community are crucial steps toward enlightened decision-making and sustained growth. Discover how to refine your career path by transitioning from a distinctive background, highlighting the diversity and scope of opportunities within the legal profession.    This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io.    Grace Medinger (LinkedIn @ grace-medinger)    Dear Legal Ops  IG: @dearlegalops  LinkedIn: @dearlegalops  Facebook: @dearlegalops  Twitter: @dearlegalops  TikTok: @dearlegalops  www.dearlegalops.com    Tommie Tavares-Ferreira  Linkedin: @tommie  IG: @suttontell    Tom Stephenson  LinkedIn: @tstephenson1  IG: @tacotacotomtom    This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast  IG: @reddrockmusic  www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we're getting comfy with Krysta Johnson, Head of Legal Operations at Lexion. As we open our anonymous letter from Andy the Armchair Detective from Cabot Cove, Maine, we look to Krysta's seasoned insights on how a legal ops rockstar can foster a successful GC/CLO relationship based on trust, strategic alignment, and constructive feedback. We'll discuss becoming an indispensable right hand to your GC/CLO, navigating leadership dynamics, and ways to enhance professional growth within the legal department. Join us for a sleuth into strategies that will strengthen your role and impact as a legal ops professional. Grab your typewriter and your finest detective's hat because you'll want to document every clue that inspires you to have the perfect GC/CLO and Legal Ops partnership. This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io. Krysta Johnson, Head of Legal Ops @ Lexion LinkedIn: @ krystabjohnson Dear Legal Ops IG: @dearlegalops LinkedIn: @dearlegalops Facebook: @dearlegalops Twitter: @dearlegalops TikTok: @dearlegalops www.dearlegalops.com Tommie Tavares-Ferreira Linkedin: @tommie IG: @suttontell Tom Stephenson LinkedIn: @tstephenson1 IG: @tacotacotomtom This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast IG: @reddrockmusic www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we're revving up with Rich Robinson, Director of Legal Operations and Litigation Support at Toyota North America. Join co-hosts Tom Stephenson and Tommie Tavares-Ferreira as they explore the world of metrics and data in the fast lane, where every microsecond counts. Get ready to align your people-focused operational strategy with business goals, emphasizing teamwork and fostering innovation. Buckle up for this high-octane episode that leaves no room for flat tires, but instead focuses on the nitty-gritty of driving success and powering the engine of your teams. This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io. Rich Robinson, Director, Legal Operations and Litigation Support at Toyota North America (LinkedIn: @RichRobinson-Toyota) Dear Legal Ops IG: @dearlegalops LinkedIn: @dearlegalops Facebook: @dearlegalops Twitter: @dearlegalops TikTok: @dearlegalops www.dearlegalops.com Tommie Tavares-Ferreira Linkedin: @tommie IG: @suttontell Tom Stephenson LinkedIn: @tstephenson1 IG: @tacotacotomtom This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast IG: @reddrockmusic www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we're shedding the anonymity and getting comfortable as Tommie, in a solo host role, welcomes DLO co-host Tom Stephenson, the Vice President of Community & Legal Operations at Legal.io. Join us as Tom unfolds his transformative journey from a paralegal to a key player at the legal ops table of Teladoc & Credit Karma. This episode is a deep dive into how embracing change, forging strong relationships, and maintaining authenticity can craft not just a career but a fulfilling life narrative. It's more than career guidance; it's a lesson in personal development and constructing a solid foundation for every chapter in the unique novel of your life. This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io. Dear Legal Ops IG: @dearlegalops LinkedIn: @dearlegalops Facebook: @dearlegalops Twitter: @dearlegalops TikTok: @dearlegalops www.dearlegalops.com Tommie Tavares-Ferreira Linkedin: @tommie IG: @suttontell Tom Stephenson LinkedIn: @tstephenson1 IG: @tacotacotomtom This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast IG: @reddrockmusic www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we're saying goodbye to 2023 with a sparkling strategic spritzer, alongside Yesenia 'Jessie' Santiago, Legal Operations Strategic Advisor at Otsuka Pharmaceutical Companies. As we get comfy and unpack a letter from a Seattle-based, somewhat-trusted legal ops strategist, we'll discuss aligning financial acumen with strategic foresight. Jessie shares her visionary approach, empowering legal ops professionals to embrace their roles as business enablers and champions of change. As we toast to the year ahead, join us as we embark on a journey of leadership and growth, advocating for effective communication and uncovering what is key to earning a seat at the decision-making table in 2024. This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io. Yesenia Santiago Egner LinkedIn: @ypsantiago Dear Legal Ops IG: @dearlegalops LinkedIn: @dearlegalops Facebook: @dearlegalops Twitter: @dearlegalops TikTok: @dearlegalops www.dearlegalops.com Tommie Tavares-Ferreira LinkedIn: @tommie IG: @suttontell Tom Stephenson LinkedIn: @tstephenson1 IG: @tacotacotomtom This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast IG: @reddrockmusic www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join co-hosts Tommie Tavares-Ferreira and Tom Stephenson for the first episode in 2024 as they cozy up with Sarah Ouis and our anonymous, data-driven debutante from Dallas. Together, they'll unravel the intertwined threads of legal design while blending digital transformation to catapult your career in the new year. With Sarah's proven track record in elevating legal professionals on LinkedIn, this episode explores innovative content creation strategies and the power of persuasion, authority, and visibility. Embracing the "new year, new me" mentality, prepare to innovate, break new ground, and blaze new trails for growth and extraordinary achievements. This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io. Sarah Ouis (Linkedin: @sarah-ouis-lawyeruk) Dear Legal Ops IG: @dearlegalops LinkedIn: @dearlegalops Facebook: @dearlegalops Twitter: @dearlegalops TikTok: @dearlegalops www.dearlegalops.com Tommie Tavares-Ferreira LinkedIn: @tommie IG: @suttontell Tom Stephenson LinkedIn: @tstephenson1 IG: @tacotacotomtom This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast IG: @reddrockmusic www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we're getting anonymously comfy with Captain Kirk, our starry-eyed strategist, as we sip spiced cider by the fireside, adorned in our holiday best. As 2023 fades into the starlit past, remember that each small step we've taken is a part of a larger journey towards change and growth. With eyes set on 2024, let's embrace these gradual shifts, knowing they pave the path to transformative adventures in our legal ops universe. Let our aspirations and personal growth intertwine like a constellation, forming a unique pattern that guides us to professional fulfillment and personal contentment. Join us for this stellar year-end episode as we plot a course for a year of epic success and growth, proving that the sky's not the limit, but just the beginning. This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io. Dear Legal Ops IG: @dearlegalops LinkedIn: @dearlegalops Facebook: @dearlegalops Twitter: @dearlegalops TikTok: @dearlegalops www.dearlegalops.com Tommie Tavares-Ferreira LinkedIn: @tommie IG: @suttontell Tom Stephenson LinkedIn: @tstephenson1 IG: @tacotacotomtom This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast IG: @reddrockmusic www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we're getting comfy with Bianca Weber, Senior Manager of Legal Affairs Strategy & Operations at Otsuka. Together, we're embarking on an exciting expedition through the world of legal ops education and growth, where we'll traverse the rugged landscapes of certifications and continued education. But that's not all – we're venturing off the beaten path to discover alternative educational trails for those eager to explore uncharted territories in their legal ops careers. Along the way, we'll unpack how personal development and emotional resilience serve as our trusty compasses on this career exploration journey. Join us as we blaze a trail less traveled. Whether you're dressed in your finest business attire or geared up in your hiking boots, prepare to hike the legal ops terrain with us. We're about to uncover the hidden treasures that will guide you to success in 2024 and beyond. So, tighten those bootlaces, grab your adventure hat, and let's venture forth!  This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io. Bianca Weber, Senior Manager, Legal Affairs Strategy & Operations at Otsuka https://www.linkedin.com/in/bianca-w-b1421a170/ Dear Legal Ops IG: @dearlegalops LinkedIn: @dearlegalops Facebook: @dearlegalops Twitter: @dearlegalops TikTok: @dearlegalops www.dearlegalops.com Tommie Tavares-Ferreira LinkedIn: @tommie IG: @suttontell Tom Stephenson LinkedIn: @tstephenson1 IG: @tacotacotomtom This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast IG: @reddrockmusic www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we're getting comfy with Jessica Nguyen, Chief Legal Officer of Lexion, to explore the dynamics of the Chief Legal Officer and Legal Ops partnership. Drawing on Jessica's extensive career and leadership roles in major enterprises, we'll tap her for insights and strategies for promoting a harmonious and productive relationship between CLO/ General Counsel and legal ops teams. We'll also uncover the secret for building partnerships and collaborations with teams outside of the legal function, navigating differences to ensure cohesive business strategies.  As we savor the flavors of this enlightening conversation, we'll raise a toast to the relationships that propel us forward, challenge us to be better, and remind us that success is indeed sweeter when shared. So, grab your post-turkey stretchy pants, kick back the recliner, and raise your glass to great partnerships! This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io. Jessica Nguyen LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicanguyen Dear Legal Ops IG: @dearlegalops LinkedIn: @dearlegalops Facebook: @dearlegalops Twitter: @dearlegalops TikTok: @dearlegalops www.dearlegalops.com Tommie Tavares-Ferreira Linkedin: @tommie IG: @suttontell Tom Stephenson LinkedIn: @tstephenson1 IG: @tacotacotomtom This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast IG: @reddrockmusic www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we’re getting anonymously comfy with Tyler Finn, Head of Community & Growth at SpotDraft and host of The Abstract podcast. As we open our anonymous letter from Monochrome Matt from Legal Ops, Louisiana, we blend the rich pigments of personal creativity with professional prowess. Together we explore the synergy of content, community, and credibility, painting a portrait of professional evolution. We unravel Monochrome Matt’s quest to infuse creativity into his career, blending the boundaries between personal passions and professional pursuits. Join co-hosts Tom and Tommie, as they remind us that our career is a canvas, and we are the artists.  This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io. Tyler Finn, Head of Community & Growth at SpotDraft and host of The Abstract podcast LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn/ Dear Legal Ops IG: @dearlegalops LinkedIn: @dearlegalops Facebook: @dearlegalops Twitter: @dearlegalops TikTok: @dearlegalops www.dearlegalops.com Tommie Tavares-Ferreira Linkedin: @tommie IG: @suttontell Tom Stephenson LinkedIn: @tstephenson1 IG: @tacotacotomtom This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast IG: @reddrockmusic www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices