The Mind Bod Adventure Pod

Jeff Warren & Tasha Schumann

Join hosts Jeff & Tasha as they explore the world of practice, one adventurous guide at a time.

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Psychoacoustics & Safety with Paula Scatoloni
4d ago
Psychoacoustics & Safety with Paula Scatoloni
Welcome Paula Scatoloni, a wise somatic experiencing practitioner (she’s been doing this for 30 years!). Paula uses Stephen Porges’ “Safe and Sound Protocol” as a tool to soothe and heal our frazzled nervous systems. We start by exploring how sound can be healing—in particular, how to train our systems to move out of fight-and-flight and into safety-and-connection. The more our body finds this safety, the better able we are to access and process our trauma and attachment challenges. If you like these adventures in consciousness, consider supporting our work with a paid subscription!At least, that’s the theory. What’s the practice? We practice through our ears – twice! Paula’s first guided meditation is about yielding to the support of the earth; her second is “naval radiation breathing,” a practice developed by movement super-genius Bonnie Bainbridge Cohen. (We’d love to get Bonnie on the pod!)And so it goes, a wide-ranging exploration into the nature of trauma and regulation and co-regulation and healthy boundaries and real connection and so much more.The AfterpartyAnd now: Tune Ye into the Afterparty of champions! This week, we talk about the evolving role of healers in the 21st century, what sound does to our fried nervous systems, and finally, the extreme importance of a solid signature sign-off phrase.The Afterparty video will eventually move behind ye olde paywall, but for now, it’s free :)K That’s all for now! See you next week.Love always,🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️* PaulaScatoloni.com * Safe and Sound Protocol * Bonnie Bainbridge Cohen Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe
Glimpses into Freedom with Loch Kelly
Apr 9 2024
Glimpses into Freedom with Loch Kelly
Watch the video episode here: https://www.mindbodpod.com/p/loch-kelly-glimpses-into-freedom “The issue of suffering is a simple case of mistaken identity,” says our guest Loch Kelly. By this, he means the you that is thinking about you, is not the real you! Then who is it, you ask? His name is Percy, he lives on a riverboat, and makes a fine fish fillet. 😅 Just kidding! That’s not true at all.This episode – a delicious tongue-twister of the mind – really should be watched on video, since Loch’s gestures and body language are part of his teaching. Get thee to our Substack channel to watch the video, slackers, for it may point you to “the most intense bliss you’ve ever felt, spread out thin throughout the universe.”Oh, Lochy Loch. He moves us through “direct pointing” exercises to familiarize us with the mystery of our true nature, which, of course, defies language. Loch specializes in offering glimpses into different kinds of minds and bodies: kinaesthetic ones, visual ones, conceptual ones... You only need to find the right door for you.Plunge with us through the layers of mind and reality to a place / non-place that is “so close you can’t see it, so simple you can’t believe it, so wordless you can’t know it and so f*****g good you can’t accept it.” Except with less swearing.PLUS! Loch has offered us Mind Bod Squadders some free resources to deepen our experiential explorations! Get them here: lochkelly.org/mind-bod-adventure-podK That’s all for now! See you next week.Love always,🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️ Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe
Harry Potter & The Sacred Text with Casper ter Kuile
Apr 2 2024
Harry Potter & The Sacred Text with Casper ter Kuile
This week’s guest is Casper ter Kuile, author of the excellent The Power of Ritual: Turning Everyday Rituals into Soulful Practices. Casper is passionate about spreading the goodness of ritual. Ritual? Isn’t that a religious thing?! HELL NO! For Casper (“Gay atheist goes to divinity school!”) a ritual is anything we do with “intention, attention and repetition.” Our rituals are a basic human need, found in a great many surprising places, from CrossFit classes to Harry Potter books.If you like these adventures in consciousness, consider supporting our work with a paid subscription!In this practice (or ritual), we read a line from the first Harry Potter book, and then respond from four different layers: the literal, the allegorical, the personal, and finally the active, where we ask “what action wants to emerge?” This is the practice of using text as a mirror, a way to explore who and how we are. From here we move into a conversation on practice, the sacred, and community.Let us know in the comments how this week’s practice was for you! (And tell us which is your favorite Harry Potter book too ;) The AfterpartyDon’t miss the Afterparty, where we talk candidly about whatever didn't get said in this week's episode! The Afterparty video will eventually move behind ye olde paywall, but for now, it’s free :)Find Casper online:* Website: caspertk.com* The Nearness: 10-week program designed to foster deep connection and reflection through curated conversations and practices.* Harry Potter and the Sacred TextThanks for tuning in! See you next week.Love always,🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️ Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe
Cannabis and Meditation with Will Johnson
Mar 5 2024
Cannabis and Meditation with Will Johnson
DISCLAIMER: we talk about smoking weed while meditating in this episode, and then we actually do it (its legal here in Canada) to see what it’s like. Our guide thinks there’s value in this practice, and so do we - FOR SOME PEOPLE. For others, particularly younger folks whose brains are not fully developed, cannabis can negatively affect mental health. It can also be addictive. As always, we are not endorsing; we’re exploring. You do not need to ingest marijuana in order to benefit from Will’s beautiful embodied meditation.If you like these adventures in consciousness, consider supporting our work with a paid subscription!So who is this deviant hippy meditation guide, you ask? His name is Will Johnson, and he really is an old hippy, a beloved teacher who has been doing it his way since the 60s. In our very fun conversation, we cover the changing nature of Buddhism and its current adaption to the West, the essence of breath meditation as an invitation to breathe through the whole body, the felt “shimmer” of increased body sensitivity, and how this can train us to open at ever-deeper layers – including the layers that have us convinced we’re separate from the rest of life. So: in Will’s view, there’s definitely a path of awakening with cannabis as a support. Are we all just … high? Decide for yourself friends! Let us know in the comments! Check out Will’s website, along with info about his “Shimmering Seahorse Sangha”: https://www.embodiment.net/And now: Join us for The Afterparty… 👇The AfterpartyIn this here Afterparty, we consider the potentially deluding nature of cannabis and whether there is something a bit suspect about needing a drug to get you to someplace more “real.” On the other hand, we are always looking at reality through our own filtered experience, so maybe deliberately choosing a fun filter is Ok!The Afterparty will eventually move behind ye olde paywall, but for now, it’s free for all :)If this episode tickled your adventure-loving fancy, consider sharing it with a friendThanks for tuning in! See you next week.Love always,🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️ Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe
The Wheel of Consent with Betty Martin
Feb 20 2024
The Wheel of Consent with Betty Martin
In this episode of the Mind Bod Adventure Pod, we take a deep dive into the dynamics of giving, receiving, taking, and allowing with guest Betty Martin.Why does Jeff gush that Betty is the next Buddha? Because Jeff is overly-excitable! And because Betty’s Wheel of Consent is about much more than just sex and touch. It’s about how we’re human with each other. Her model of consent is now taught in dozens of communities around the world. Among other things, the practice teaches communication and boundaries, integrity and self-awareness, generosity and gratitude, vulnerability and connection.You don’t need a partner – or even to be into sex – in order to benefit from the understandings here. We practice with an inanimate object – a pen, a jar, a piece of wood – “waking up” our hands to receive pleasure from the world. Easy to talk about, but for many, surprisingly hard to do. That’s why this is a practice with implications for understanding ourselves and how we relate to everyone in our lives.Let us know in the comments how this episode lands for you:And now: Join us for The Afterparty… 👇The AfterpartyWherein we talk candidly about knowing what you want, patriarchy, vulnerability, play, control, mystery, and a few other things we didn’t get to say during the episode. [WATCH]The Afterparty will eventually move behind ye olde paywall, but for now, it’s free for all :)If this episode tickled your adventure-loving fancy, consider sharing it with a friendThanks for tuning in! See you next week.Love always,🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️ Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe
The Practice of Activism with Lama Rod Owens
Feb 13 2024
The Practice of Activism with Lama Rod Owens
What do struggle and resistance look like as spiritual practices? What does it take to push for change in a violent and antagonistic world? Our guest in this week’s episode (which was recorded last summer) is Lama Rod Owens, in his words, “a fugitive” – disobedient and on the run in a culture where it’s not safe to be Black, not safe to be Queer, not safe to be an activist speaking truth to power. Sometimes, not even meditation spaces feel safe, especially where meditation is touted as a way to get comfortable and tune out the world. But Lama Rod is not interested in comfort. He’s interested in disruption. This is the real Dharma, the real “Work” – awakening from the status quo in order to become a brave force for collective freedom. If you like these adventures in consciousness, consider supporting our work with a paid subscription!Lama Rod offers a beautiful meditation on connecting to our sources of support and love and, from that place, exploring a personal memory of discomfort. How exactly were we uncomfortable? Were we really unsafe, or was that our trauma speaking, or our confusion, or our conformity – our desire not to rock the boat? There’s an important link here: the clearer we can be about our own discomfort, the less it will influence us, and the better able we’ll be to stand up to injustice. Lama Rod is a brilliant writer and thinker, part of the next generation of Buddhist teachers and leaders. His most recent book is The New Saints. Good to be connected. Even though we recorded this episode in the summer of 2023, it continues to be powerful medicine now. Share in the comments how Lama Rod’s practice connects with you!And now: Join us for The Afterparty… 👇The AfterpartyIn this one, we have a lively chat about escapism vs practice, art as protest, figuring out your ecological service niche, and how Tasha alchemizes her fear and discomfort before performing in front of 10,000 screaming fans. The Afterparty will eventually move behind ye olde paywall, but for now, it’s free for all :)If this episode tickled your adventure-loving fancy, consider sharing it with a friendThanks for tuning in! See you next week.Love always,🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️ Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe
Intuitive Knowing with Sebene Selassie
Feb 6 2024
Intuitive Knowing with Sebene Selassie
This episode is a rocket launcher for enabling all the weird ways you already half-know stuff, ie … intuition! The way we get into the subject is curious and open and “non-expert-y” – we hope it will create an opening for you to consider the possibilities of intuition in your own life. Via the gut, via empathy, via dreams – and via a bunch of other deliciously unsanctioned ways of knowing that certain guardians of scientific respectability can’t see, can’t handle, and also have no sense of humor about. KA-POW!Our guide in this rollicking convo is the delightful Sebene Selassie, meditation teacher, author of You Belong, and creator of the terrific Substack, Ancestors to Elements.As artists and soulful humans, both Tasha and Sebene are already quite comfortable with their turbo-charged intuitive capacities. Jeff is a little slower on the uptake – you can literally see his (er, my) perspective expand in real-time. So thank you, Sebene, for your beautiful practice and also for your friendship!Sebene, Jeff, and Dan Harris (and maybe Tasha too - stay tuned…) also teach a fun Omega retreat called “Meditation Party,” for those who want some in-person good vibes.Let us know in the comments how Sebene’s guided practice lands for you!And then join us over at MindBodPod.com for The Afterparty, where we talk about skepticism, science, art, spirituality, and everything else that didn't get said in this week's episode!Thanks for tuning in!~ Tasha & Jeff Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe
Lectio Divina with Nadia Bolz-Weber
Jan 30 2024
Lectio Divina with Nadia Bolz-Weber
In this episode, we chat with Nadia Bolz-Weber, a Lutheran pastor and public theologian celebrated (justly - excellent Christian word) for her edgy, honest, and sometimes hilarious approach to spirituality. The titles of her three bestselling memoirs say it well: Pastrix, Accidental Saints, and Shameless. Nadia also writes the popular Substack, The Corners – in fact, as you’ll learn at the end of the episode, Nadia is the one who convinced us to move our pod to Substack in the first place – thank you, Nadia!Nadia shares about her falling out with Christianity, and how she came back to it on her own terms. And then, for 10 minutes … we practice!What practice, ye unbelievers? Nothing less than the “Lectio Divina,” a traditional Christian monastic practice of slowly reading a passage of scripture, and then rereading it, and then … rereading it one more time! KAPOW! Prepare to be humanistically enriched, for such is the nature of poetry. With each pass, we invite new themes and provocations to rise in awareness.By the end of this episode, there’s lots of big belly laughter as we explore the nature of insight and healing, what it means to lead “from your scars, not your wounds,” who the heck GOD is, and more.Let us know in the comments how this practice lands for you!Thanks, Nadia, and thank you, friends, for adventuring with us. Now join us over at www.mindbodpod.com to check out our bouncy Afterparty!Love always,🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️ Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe
The Sensual Self with Ev'Yan Whitney
Jun 16 2022
The Sensual Self with Ev'Yan Whitney
In today’s episode (the Season 1 finale!) we get slow and personal with Ev’Yan Whitney, sexuality doula, podcast host, and author of Sensual Self. “Sensuality” often gets lumped in with sexuality… Ev’Yan wants to change that, to tease apart these two aspects of being human and demonstrate how everyone can connect with a more sensual version of themselves.Ev’Yan’s 19-minute practice is a tour of the senses. Take your time. The pacing of Ev’Yan’s guidance – the way she encourages us to pause and savor each sense – is part of its sensual magic.Afterwards we have a wide-ranging conversation, from issues of sensuality and consent, to how sex changes over time in relationships, to the fundamental right of pleasure. Many of us feel guilty talking about pleasure, as though it were somehow frivolous or self-indulgent. For Ev’Yan, in a world that is continually forcing us out of our bodies, out of safety, out of softness … “Pleasure in such a world is an act of resistance.”“When we feel good, we do good … so feel good!” It’s the perfect way to finish our season.Season 1 Finale Message from Tasha & Jeff:Thank you so much to all our listeners for an incredible 1st season! We’ve had so much fun this past year, creating these 23 episodes of mind-body adventure. We (and our awesome producer Timmy) will be back in the fall with a BRAND NEW SEASON of exploration and consciousness-expanding guests! In the meantime, drop us a note if there’s a guide or a subject you’re keen to explore with us.And of course, if you’d like to support our time-and-resource-intense labor of love, consider contributing to our Patreon! Have a wonderful summer ❤️Ev'Yan's Links :• Sensual Self podcast• Sensual Self book• Ev'Yan's website• Ev’Yan’s instagramSupport the show Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe
Direct Pointing with Angelo Dilullo
Jun 9 2022
Direct Pointing with Angelo Dilullo
Our guest today is Angelo DiLullo, a medical doctor and author of a fine book called Awake: It's Your Turn. Angelo points directly to the true nature of self / consciousness / or whatever you want to call this bizarre ululating mystery we all seem to be living inside. He probably wouldn’t even say he “teaches” this, since all he really does for his guided practice is describe his own experience of operating in a world without a sense of a panicked separate self running around going “I gotta get more stuff!” In fact, the whole conversation is a direct pointing. And what is Angelo pointing Tasha, Jeff, and  our listeners to? His term for it is “unfiltered reality.” Which turns out to be right here, right now, only we overlook it, on account of our enthralment to thinking and the organizing structures that lie below thinking. This s**t is so fun. That’s why we do it. We like the existential shivers, the shiver-me-timbers, the sense of beautiful ordinary that settles all around as we get wide and full of Being (beans!), trembling righhhht at the threshold of …. of what? Of almost getting it? – but getting what? If it can’t be got, if it’s already right here? Etcetera etcetera and so on and so forth. What pleasurable times we had conversing about perceptual distortions and the need for emotional work and metabolizing energies and the twitchy “sphincter of the mind” and the tragic way Jeff has reified awareness and thus will probably never get enlightened and that’s fine at least he still has most of his hair (not for long Dad!). The EndAngelo's 12.5 minute nondual "direct pointing" begins at 9:28 and ends at 21:52. Links:Angelo’s book: Awake It’s Your Turn https://books.simplyalwaysawake.com/#Angelo’s youtube channel, Simply Always Awake: https://www.youtube.com/c/SimplyAlwaysAwakeSupport the show Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe
Unconscious Bias with Rima Dib
May 25 2022
Unconscious Bias with Rima Dib
Today we’re joined by Rima Dib, a good friend of Tasha and Jeff’s who also happens to be an expert in unconscious bias and anti-oppression education. Rima teaches workshops about difference – race, age, gender, sexual preference, ability – to people around the planet. She makes it fun. Is this possible? Yes, it turns out. We laughed our asses off. In Rima’s words, “If it gets too heavy, we’re gonna want to put it down. By keeping it light, we can carry it longer.”Fun doesn’t necessarily mean comfortable. Her acting and word association practices are very revealing. We go with our first flash or gesture, before we have time to edit our responses for popular consumption. Gulp. Thus Jeff squirms in his seat as various juvenile biases are uncovered. Fortunately, we also learn how our unconscious biases are NOT the same as our chosen values. So there's a lot of healthy normalization here. For Rima, everyone has biases; healing and change begin by bringing them into our awareness.Our conversation is very lively! We explore everything from “cancel culture” to Mr Clean to educating your kids about bias and dealing with racist babies. This is good medicine my friends. Thank you Rima, we love you.The first practice of identifying our embodied biases begins at 10:50 and ends at 19:25. The second practice, where we visit “the attic of our imaginations,” begins at 32:53 and ends at 37:56.Links• Rima Dib’s "Harmony at Work" website: https://harmonyatwork.ca/team/rima/ • The Harvard Implicit Bias Test: https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.htmlSupport the show Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe
Spontaneous Thinking with Shinzen Young
May 18 2022
Spontaneous Thinking with Shinzen Young
Meet Shinzen Young, a long-time instructor of mindfulness, author of The Science of Enlightenment, and now co-director of the “Science Enhanced Mindful Awareness” or “SEMA” Lab at the University of Arizona. Shinzen is Jeff’s OG meditation teacher. He is both a scholar of comparative mysticism, and a highly creative designer of strange and beautiful (and practical) meditation techniques.In this episode, instead of trying to banish thoughts, we drop into a "global unfixated state," and allow creative images and words and associations to spontaneously unfold. Both Shinzen’s exposition and his guided practice are quite precise – so much so that Tasha kind of bristles against them, which makes for a lively discussion afterwards. But if you’re patient, and able to trust what Shinzen is pointing to, it can lead to genuine insight. Thinking can shift from something rigid and constrained, to something more free-flowing and intuitive and even wise.This matters. For Shinzen, the best of humanity comes through via our creativity and intuition. In his words, we can train ourselves to “let nature take over.” Shinzen himself demonstrates this at the end, when he comes apart during an emotional discussion of Japanese Noh theater. Much good stuff on the “deep mind,” subconscious processing, and the better angels of our nature.So: here we go … like “seaweed in a tide poodle”!Links:Shinzen’s website: https://www.shinzen.org/His YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/expandcontractHis original “Science of Enlightenment” audio series from the 90s. In Jeff’s opinion, this series – NOT his more recent book of the same title – is one of the smartest things ever created on the subject of meditation.Shinzen’s “Unified Mindfulness” training program: https://unifiedmindfulness.com/His “Science Enhanced Mindful Awareness” Sema Lab at the University of Arizona: https://semalab.arizona.edu/Support the show Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe
Tarot and the Imagination with Tatianna Morales
May 12 2022
Tarot and the Imagination with Tatianna Morales
Today we hang out with the incomparable Tatianna Morales – aka @tatiannatarot – a Brooklyn-born spiritualist, priestess, and Tarot diviner! Together, we plunge into the imagination, learning how the age-old tradition of reading Tarot cards can give us insight into our personalities and our life situations. It turns out we’re meeting Tatianna at the very moment her own relationship to Tarot is changing. And not only hers: there’s a revolution happening out in the culture – artists and enthusiasts are creating their own tarot decks, imagining new archetypes to better reflect the realities of 21st century life. As we discuss, this is one way that culture and consciousness change and evolve.So how do we give listeners their own personal Tarot reading? Tatianna starts by asking listeners to think of a question or theme they want to explore. Then all of us – Jeff and Tasha too – choose a number between one and three. Tatianna pulls a card for each number and does a reading for each. Listen closely to the reading for the number you choose! All the readings are fascinating, as examples of how Tarot works and the kinds of dynamics they help us explore.Much goodness here and a wonderful animated discussion afterwards. Enjoy!Practice begins at 8:52 with Tatianna’s readings from 10:30-19:36; Jeff and Tasha get a personal reading from 20:17 – 32:38, and finally our general discussion begins at 32:38. Links:- Tatianna’s website: https://www.tatiannatarot.com- Tatianna’s instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tatiannatarot/ Support the show Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe