Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

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Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast features four journalists from Cleveland.com. Mary Kay Cabot has over 30 years of experience covering the Cleveland Browns for the Cleveland Plain Dealer and Cleveland.com. She is one of just four women of the 49 voters for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Ashley Bastock is another host of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. She is a Browns beat reporter. Bastock has also covered the Guardians (formerly Indians) and Cavaliers. She worked for Meet the Press during the 2016 presidential campaign. Bastock provided research and outlines for Chuck Todd. Cohost Dan Labbe has reported on the Browns since 2016. Finally, Scott Patsko helps oversee and coordinate sports coverage at Cleveland.com.

During the season, Orange and Brown Talk has pregame shows and postgame analysis. The detailed coverage continues throughout the week. If fans want to know how the safeties fit into the Browns defense, the podcast has an episode on that. If Browns news breaks, the podcast team is quick to cover it. When the Browns replaced their kicker, the show had an emergency podcast.

During the week, the podcast does a "Hey, Mary Kay!" episode. These episodes revolve around a fan question for Cabot. When Joe Thomas went into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, the podcast interviewed Thomas and his wife.

One Orange and Brown Talk featured an NFL head coaches draft. The show also paired with a Bengals podcast to pick an all-Ohio offense from Browns and Bengals. Sometimes the podcast has non-Browns topics. The hosts discussed their favorite nonfiction sports books. They also picked their favorite Cleveland ice cream spots.

Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast airs new episodes about five times a week throughout the year. The podcast updates about as often in the offseason as during the season.

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The Browns Deshaun Watson trade is complete; can we judge it now?

The Browns Deshaun Watson trade is complete; can we judge it now?

The Houston Texans made the final pick in the Deshaun Watson deal on Saturday in the NFL Draft, meaning the trade is officially done. Now it’s just about where both teams go from here and, more importantly for the Browns, if Watson can get healthy and do what the Browns hoped when they made the deal. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the end of the deal, or at least the pieces of it, on Saturday’s draft recap edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. After they discuss where the Watson deal stands now, they get into what the Browns did on Saturday and their impressions of the team’s draft class. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Browns Deshaun Watson trade is complete; can we judge it now?

The Browns Deshaun Watson trade is complete; can we judge it now?

The Houston Texans made the final pick in the Deshaun Watson deal on Saturday in the NFL Draft, meaning the trade is officially done. Now it’s just about where both teams go from here and, more importantly for the Browns, if Watson can get healthy and do what the Browns hoped when they made the deal. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the end of the deal, or at least the pieces of it, on Saturday’s draft recap edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. After they discuss where the Watson deal stands now, they get into what the Browns did on Saturday and their impressions of the team’s draft class. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What the Browns saw in Michael Hall Jr. and Zak Zinter on Day 2 of the NFL Draft

What the Browns saw in Michael Hall Jr. and Zak Zinter on Day 2 of the NFL Draft

The Browns beefed up the trenches on Friday night in the NFL Draft, staying put in their original spots and picking defensive tackle Michael Hall Jr. at No. 54 and guard Zak Zinter at No. 85. At the end of the night, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the picks the Browns made and cleveland.com's draft expert Tim Bielik offered his quick analysis of both picks. They discuss the decision to stick and pick Hall instead of taking the offers that were available to them to trade out of the 54th pick. Then they get into the not-so-pleasant connection Hall and Zinter have and how bizarre it is before they discuss Zinter's future role and what it means for Joel Bitonio and Wyatt Teller. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What the Browns should do in the NFL Draft on Friday night

What the Browns should do in the NFL Draft on Friday night

The Browns, once again, didn't have a first-round pick in the NFL Draft, making for a quiet Thursday night for the team and fans. There was plenty happening league-wide, though, and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to what they watched in Round 1. Then they looked ahead to Friday when the Browns will go on the clock at No. 54 overall. They lay out what they think Andrew Berry should do with his two picks on Friday night and how the Browns should approach Day 2 of the draft. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

NFL Draft first round mock: We make all 32 picks

NFL Draft first round mock: We make all 32 picks

The NFL Draft kicks off on Thursday night and we're getting you ready with a full first round mock draft. For the third year in a row, the Orange and Brown Talk and Buckeye Talk crews got together and made every pick in the first round. Nathan Baird, Tim Bielik, Andrew Gillis, Dan Labbe, Stephen Means and Jimmy Watkins were all assigned teams and they worked their way through the first 32 picks, making trades and filling needs along the way. While the first pick was a no-brainer, things got interesting after that and included discussions on Justin Fields in Pittsburgh and which Buckeyes player could be the first to go in their class next year. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

3 Browns predictions for the 2024 NFL Draft

3 Browns predictions for the 2024 NFL Draft

The Browns will kick off their last of three straight years without a first-round pick this week, going on the clock on Friday night in the second round. They don't have as much draft capital to work with this year as in years past, so there are plenty of options on the table for GM Andrew Berry in his fifth draft. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to this week's draft by making predictions for the Browns. What will they do with their first pick? Could they take a quarterback? What about those two seventh rounders? Check out their predictions on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Will Deshaun Watson be elite again in 2024? Hey, Mary Kay!

Will Deshaun Watson be elite again in 2024? Hey, Mary Kay!

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson is attempting to come back from an injury this season and has played in just 12 games in two seasons since the Browns acquired him. Is this the year he returns to the elite level the Browns hoped for when they acquired him? Will he at least be a Top 10 quarterback? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by answering those questions about Watson before answering another about what it would actually take for the Browns to decide to move on from Watson. Then they answer a question about the Browns record next season and discuss a couple of draft questions about what positions the Browns value in the draft and if linebacker and defensive tackle are in play. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What are some names to remember for the Browns in the NFL Draft?

What are some names to remember for the Browns in the NFL Draft?

We spent our first two draft podcasts discussing specific positions. First it was wide receivers and tight ends, then it was defensive linemen. Today, on our final draft podcast, we open it up to everything else. Cleveland.com's draft expert Tim Bielik and film expert Lance Reisland join the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast for our third draft preview, focusing on whichever players they want to throw out as options for the Browns when they go on the clock next week. Tim and Lance throw out two players and a sleeper and discuss each player and why they like them. Then they do a Browns only mock draft and make the Browns' first three picks. Find out who they would take if the draft fell a certain way at the end of the month. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What did Deshaun Watson tell us about the Browns new offense?

What did Deshaun Watson tell us about the Browns new offense?

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson dropped some hints about the new-look offense during his press conference on Tuesday. He mentioned how it will help the wide receivers and him with new coordinator Ken Dorsey in the fold along with Kevin Stefanski. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Wednesday Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing what Watson said about the offense and who they think will call plays. Then they spend time talking about the secondary. Denzel Ward called it the best in the league on Tuesday while Greg Newsome II talked about how he wants to remain a part of the Browns for a long time. They get into what both players had to say. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What we learned about Deshaun Watson's injury on Tuesday

What we learned about Deshaun Watson's injury on Tuesday

We heard from Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson on Tuesday during the Browns' first media availability of the of team's offseason program. Watson, Kevin Stefanski and Denzel Ward all spoke. Our focus on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast is Watson, who spoke about his injury and about his plan to get back to throwing during practice. They discuss his acknowledgement that the injury could have occurred as early as Week 3 as well as him talking about patience as he moves through the rehab process. Then they answer the question: How do you feel about Watson in 2024 after hearing him talk on Tuesday? We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

3 questions for the Browns offense at start of the offseason program

3 questions for the Browns offense at start of the offseason program

The Browns are back for their offseason program, reporting to Berea on Monday for the start of the optional portion of the program. Nothing is mandatory until minicamp in June. Like every team in the NFL, they have plenty of questions as they start to gear up for football to return and the start of training camp in July. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe use Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk Podcast to discuss three questions on the offensive side of the football. They discuss their expectations for Deshaun Watson and when they hope to see Nick Chubb on the field again. They also look at the tackle situation and how it could shake out with three starting-caliber players on the roster. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Which edge rushers and defensive tackles fit the Browns in the NFL Draft?

Which edge rushers and defensive tackles fit the Browns in the NFL Draft?

Last week, the focus of our draft podcast was on wide receivers and tight ends. This week, we're moving to the defensive side of the ball as we give you names to keep in mind when the Browns go on the clock in this year's NFL Draft. Cleveland.com's draft expert Tim Bielik and film expert Lance Reisland join the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast for our second draft preview, focusing on edge rushers and defensive tackles. Tim and Lance throw out two options and a sleeper at both spots and discuss each player and why they like them. Then they do a Browns only mock draft and make the Browns' first three picks. Find out who they would take if the draft fell a certain way at the end of the month. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Why was it so important to restructure Nick Chubb's deal? Hey, Mary Kay!

Why was it so important to restructure Nick Chubb's deal? Hey, Mary Kay!

The Browns did right by star running back Nick Chubb, restructuring his contact to make sure he would be a Cleveland Brown in 2024, giving him incentives to earn back the money he gave up in the process. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start off their latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by talking about the Chubb restructure and why he means so much to this team, the fans and why they Browns couldn't had to do everything they could to bring him back. They also discuss a possible London game for the Browns as well as an ideal draft weekend for the team and spend time on the team's quarterback room and why the addition of Tyler Huntley is interesting. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

3 concerns we have about the Browns roster

3 concerns we have about the Browns roster

The Browns roster is in good shape with the draft approaching but, just like any other roster in the NFL, it has question marks. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss their remaining concerns with the roster and the things they're keeping an eye on. They discuss the state of the defensive line and if there's room for the Browns to find more pass rush help. They also get into the wide receiver room and the production they expect from Jerry Jeudy and Elijah Moore plus the guys behind them. Then they look at the linebacker position to determine if there's enough there and if it even matters that much in Jim Schwartz's scheme. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Why it’s a good thing if the Packers go to Brazil instead of the Browns

Why it’s a good thing if the Packers go to Brazil instead of the Browns

Packers president Mark Murphy hinted heavily the Packers could be the team heading to Brazil Week 1 to take on the Eagles. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the idea of the Browns not going to Brazil and why they think it's actually a good thing for the Browns and their fans. They discuss some of the challenges going to Brazil would present and why they seemed to be the one team that actually wanted the trip. They also spend some more time on travel -- like how The Greenbrier will impact a normal training camp schedule instead of the extended schedule the Browns had last year. They also offer some advice to Browns fans who might want to plan a trip this season. Which cities are the best on the schedule to visit. They even talk a little train travel, just for fun. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What we learned from Deshaun Watson when he spoke last week

What we learned from Deshaun Watson when he spoke last week

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson spoke last week at the opening of Lefty's Cheesesteak in University Heights covering a number of topics, including the fact he'll be ready to go Week 1. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe got caught up on Monday on what Watson covered during his media availability and what we learned from his comments at the restaurant opening. They discuss his availability for Week 1 and what it might look like when he does take the field again. They also talk about Jameis Winston's visit to Watson in Los Angeles and why it was important and get into what Kevin Stefanski appearing on Watson's podcast means for how far Kevin has come in his four years as head coach. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Which receivers in the draft fit the Browns? NFL Draft preview

Which receivers in the draft fit the Browns? NFL Draft preview

The Browns are once again navigating a draft without a first round pick, but there are plenty of options for them in the second round and beyond to fill their needs and add depth to their roster. Cleveland.com's NFL Draft expert Tim Bielik and film expert Lance Reisland join the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast for our first draft preview, focusing on wide receivers and tight ends. Tim and Lance throw out two options and a sleeper at receiver and also some tight ends to keep in mind with the draft coming. Then they do a Browns only mock draft and make their two Day 2 picks. Find out who they would take if the draft fell a certain way at the end of the month. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What are realistic expectations for Browns receiver Elijah Moore? Hey, Mary Kay!

What are realistic expectations for Browns receiver Elijah Moore? Hey, Mary Kay!

Wide receiver Elijah Moore had an up-and-down first season with the Browns in 2023 but showed signs of what he could be once the Browns figure out exactly how they want to use him. So what should we reasonably expect from Moore in 2024? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Part 2 of our Hey, Mary Kay! podcast this week. What's a fair expectation for Moore and how does the addition of Jerry Jeudy impact him this season? They also discuss the possibility of adding a running back in the draft, NFL expansion and more. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What is Greg Newsome II's future with the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!

What is Greg Newsome II's future with the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!

The Browns will make a decision on cornerback Greg Newsome II's fifth-year option for 2025 in the next month. The price tag for the option and the emergence of young cornerbacks on the roster has made some Browns fans wonder what Newsome's future in Cleveland might entail. It's one of the questions Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe address on Wednesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. They discuss whether Newsome could end up in a trade and if he'll be with the Browns beyond 2025. They also answer questions about Deshaun Watson's time to throw and the team's receiver depth. Check out Part 2 of this edition of the podcast on Thursday. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Will running it back work for the Browns on defense? + Getting ready for the Women's Final Four

Will running it back work for the Browns on defense? + Getting ready for the Women's Final Four

We still have some time before we get a look at the Browns defense in 2024, but we know most of the pieces involved as, with the exception of a few spots, they're running it back. What should we expect from them? Will they pick up where they left off or is there concern they could take a step back? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss expectations for the defense in 2024 on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. How will stability help and hurt them? They also discuss the return of Cade York and why it's important to beef up the special teams coverage units like they did by signing Justin Hardee. Lastly, they discuss the Women's Final Four returning to Cleveland and Ashley's experiences the last time it was here and Dan's expectations as he covers the event this weekend. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's next for the Browns and a potential new stadium?

What's next for the Browns and a potential new stadium?

Cleveland City Councilman Brian Kazy inserted himself and city council into the Browns stadium discussions on Monday, invoking the "Art Modell Law" in calling for the Browns to remain in Cleveland. Last week, Dee and Jimmy Haslam took their turn to discuss their options when it comes to either updating or replacing Cleveland Browns Stadium. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the Browns' stadium options on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. They talked about the "Art Modell Law" and why it's coming up and how it might be used. They also talk about a potential move to Brook Park and if it really matters if the Browns are within the city limits of Cleveland or a few minutes outside of city limits. They even take some time to discuss some of the favorite stadiums they've visited and more. We were Voted best podcast by Cleveland Magazine readers! Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices