Bridging Business & IT

Dave Burrill & Dan Burrill

Meet your hosts, Dave and Dan, a father and son team interviewing experts from around the IT ecosystem. Dave’s a serial entrepreneur, CIO, board member, author, speaker and advisor with a lifetime of frontline tech industry experience. He wants things to work—perfectly! His son and cohost Dan, is Head of Sales for PlanetScale (a Silicon Valley software company). He wants to get things done—now! While they certainly have their differences, they’re both driven to understand what business customers need so they can deliver the best possible solution. That’s why these two have joined forces (along with a lot of industry heavyweights) to help resolve the biggest challenge in business technology: How to successfully bridge the gap between what a business needs and how its IT department and vendors address that need. This podcast is for those in the trenches, for professionals with hands-on experience who are striving to overcome the multitude of challenges standing between them and the successful deployment of technology to advance business objectives. Each episode is filled not only with humor and sarcasm, but with tricks of the trade and lessons learned. Connect with their stories, experiences, shortcomings, failures, and successes. Let them be your guide on this unvarnished, irreverent and entertaining look at business and IT. Subscribe, listen, and laugh while getting a true appreciation for the fact that in your day to day tech challenges, you’re not alone and solutions are out there. read less
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Episodes

S3 Ep7: A Conversation with the CIOs of Marriott, IRS, FDA and JPL Part 2
Mar 31 2023
S3 Ep7: A Conversation with the CIOs of Marriott, IRS, FDA and JPL Part 2
But we're talking to just one man. Today is the first part of our conversation with a uniquely accomplished IT professional, Jim Rinaldi. Over Jim's long career he's been the Vice President of IT for Marriott Hotels, the United States Internal Revenue Service (IRS), the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and most recently, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) which is managed for NASA by Caltech (the California Institute of Technology). Needless to say, he's seen his fair share of what he refers to as "business projects that just happen to be enabled by technology" (aka, IT projects).We spend a lot of time talking about why IT projects tend not to be successful and what needs to be done to change that. Perhaps more importantly, we talk about the role of a leader in IT organizations and what a successful leader must do to understand and serve the needs of his team and organization. We throughly enjoyed this conversation. We hope you do too.These podcasts are dedicated to bridging the gap between business & IT. Each episode looks at different aspects of this relationship as we explore ways to help the two groups better communicate. We're passionate about this topic because it's a failure to communicate that causes 75% of all IT project failures and costs the US $1.8 Trillion every year—8% of US GDP! If you don't want to become one of these statistics and want to learn about an easy way to avoid it, please visit our website and schedule a free consultation. Alternatively, if there's some topic you'd like to hear more about, or you have an idea about how we might better serve our listeners, please shoot us an email at dave@bridgingbusinessit.com. We'd love to hear from you.http://bridgingbusinessit.com
S3 Ep6: A Conversation with the CIOs of Marriott, IRS, FDA and JPL Part 1
Mar 16 2023
S3 Ep6: A Conversation with the CIOs of Marriott, IRS, FDA and JPL Part 1
But we're talking to just one man. Today is the first part of our conversation with a uniquely accomplished IT professional, Jim Rinaldi. Over Jim's long career he's been the Vice President of IT for Marriott Hotels, the United States Internal Revenue Service (IRS), the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and most recently, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) which is managed for NASA by Caltech (the California Institute of Technology). Needless to say, he's seen his fair share of what he refers to as "business projects that just happen to be enabled by technology" (aka, IT projects).We spend a lot of time talking about why IT projects tend not to be successful and what needs to be done to change that. Perhaps more importantly, we talk about the role of a leader in IT organizations and what a successful leader must do to understand and serve the needs of his team and organization. We throughly enjoyed this conversation. We hope you do too.These podcasts are dedicated to bridging the gap between business & IT. Each episode looks at different aspects of this relationship as we explore ways to help the two groups better communicate. We're passionate about this topic because it's a failure to communicate that causes 75% of all IT project failures and costs the US $1.8 Trillion every year—8% of US GDP! If you don't want to become one of these statistics and want to learn about an easy way to avoid it, please visit our website and schedule a free consultation. Alternatively, if there's some topic you'd like to hear more about, or you have an idea about how we might better serve our listeners, please shoot us an email at dave@bridgingbusinessit.com. We'd love to hear from you.http://bridgingbusinessit.com
S3 Ep 5: Nalin Vail Part 2
Feb 28 2023
S3 Ep 5: Nalin Vail Part 2
This is part II of a conversation with Nalin Vahil. Nalin is a professional Sales leader who has worked at some of the biggest brands in Silicon Valley. Part I talks about some of his background and operating philosophy. Part II kicks off with some of the groups commentary on the state of the economy and the role of IT leaders during a macro economic downturn. Nalin shares more about his career evolution and the various jobs he held inside some hyper growth tech environments. He shares about how to manage execution with a rapidly growing team and how to drive consistency that is balanced with continuous improvement and innovation. Nalin describes a very innovative use of the Agile methodology to run his own Sales Organization. This process is complete with a backlog, leading indicators, sprint periods and a process for measuring the rate of improvement. Overall you'll hear a thoughtful discussion about growth, aligning business priorities within a team and personal development. We hope you enjoy this great conversation.  These podcasts are dedicated to bridging the gap between business & IT. Each episode looks at different aspects of this relationship as we explore ways to help the two groups better communicate. We're passionate about this topic because it's a failure to communicate that causes 75% of all IT project failures and costs the US $1.8 Trillion every year—8% of US GDP! If you don't want to become one of these statistics and want to learn about an easy way to avoid it, please visit our website and schedule a free consultation. Alternatively, if there's some topic you'd like to hear more about, or you have an idea about how we might better serve our listeners, please shoot us an email at dave@bridgingbusinessit.com. We'd love to hear from you.http://bridgingbusinessit.com
S3 Ep4: Nalin Vahil Part 1
Feb 15 2023
S3 Ep4: Nalin Vahil Part 1
This wide ranging conversation with Nalin Vahil Part 1 spans Dan and Nalin's history of friendship and Nalin's career history. With parents that wanted him to become a Doctor, Nalin forged his own path first as an Entrepreneur and then as a Sales Professional for some of Silicon Valley's hottest tech companies. Nalin has an expertise in applying the latest technology to run a highly effective sales organization. He also is a passionate student who studys the ways that new Enterprise IT infrastructure enters a company. And in this conversation he explores the role of end users and bottoms up decision making that is often leveraged by Sales teams to land new accounts. This part wraps up with a great exploration about the role of sales in a software evaluation along with the dark side of the reputation that sales has earned when they are not always necessarily looking out for the absolute best interest of the customer. These podcasts are dedicated to bridging the gap between business & IT. Each episode looks at different aspects of this relationship as we explore ways to help the two groups better communicate. We're passionate about this topic because it's a failure to communicate that causes 75% of all IT project failures and costs the US $1.8 Trillion every year—8% of US GDP! If you don't want to become one of these statistics and want to learn about an easy way to avoid it, please visit our website and schedule a free consultation. Alternatively, if there's some topic you'd like to hear more about, or you have an idea about how we might better serve our listeners, please shoot us an email at dave@bridgingbusinessit.com. We'd love to hear from you.http://bridgingbusinessit.com
S3 Ep3: 2022 PMI Global Summit Presentation - The Biggest Constraint in IT Projects is the Human Brain
Feb 1 2023
S3 Ep3: 2022 PMI Global Summit Presentation - The Biggest Constraint in IT Projects is the Human Brain
In December, 2022 the Project Management Institute held their Global Summit Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada . Of the more than 250 talks and break out sessions, about 10% were featured live. These were selected to showcase the most important issues in project management. As fate would have it, Dave was asked to give one of those live talks.It's widely known that IT projects fail at an alarming rate. What's not widely known is that the cause of 75% of those failures is our inability to communicate. What's even less well known is that the cause of that inability is the human brain. This presentation explains how and why our brain sabotages our communications, and offers a simple way to fix that problem. The title of the Dave's presentation was "The Human Brain: The IT Kiting Constraint We Never Consider". Obviously this is a topic we've talked a lot about on this podcast. Given the response of the 300+ people in attendance, we're going to be talking about it a lot more. It was great to give this talk because it was so nice to be able to interact with a live audience again and get their reactions. We wondered when we started to explore the chasm between business and IT three years ago whether the problem was really that bad. After watching 300 heads nod up and down in agreement for an hour and getting to talk to so many great people afterwards, it's clear this is an issue we must deal with. I hope you enjoy the recording. Here's some select references if you're interested:Charette, Robert, (2014) Why Software Fails - We waste billions of dollars each year on entirely preventable mistakes, Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers Spectrum magazine Eagleman, David (2011) Incognito: The Secret Lives of the Brain, Random HouseGawande, Atul (2009) The Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things Right, PicadorHawkins, Jeff (2021) A Thousand Brains: A New Theory of Intelligence, Hachette Book GroupKahneman, Daniel (2011) Thinking Fast & Slow, Farrar, Strauss and GirouxKapur, Narinder editor, (2011) The Paradoxical Brain, (Dror, Itiel E. The paradox of human expertise: why experts get it wrong) Cambridge University PressKrasner, Herb, (2021) The Cost of Poor Software Quality in the US: A 2020 Report, Consortium for Information & Software QualityMcKinsey & Company and the BT Centre for Major Programme Management at Oxford University, (2012, 2020), Delivering large-scale IT projects on time, on budget and on value, Sapolsky, Robert (2017) Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst, Penguin BooksStandish Group, (2020) Standish Group Annual CHAOS 2020 Report, StandishGroup.com These podcasts are dedicated to bridging the gap between business & IT. Each episode looks at different aspects of this relationship as we explore ways to help the two groups better communicate. We're passionate about this topic because it's a failure to communicate that causes 75% of all IT project failures and costs the US $1.8 Trillion every year—8% of US GDP! If you don't want to become one of these statistics and want to learn about an easy way to avoid it, please visit our website and schedule a free consultation. Alternatively, if there's some topic you'd like to hear more about, or you have an idea about how we might better serve our listeners, please shoot us an email at dave@bridgingbusinessit.com. We'd love to hear from you.http://bridgingbusinessit.com
S3 Ep2: A Candid Look at the Road from College to Tech VC and PE Partner: Part II
Jan 31 2023
S3 Ep2: A Candid Look at the Road from College to Tech VC and PE Partner: Part II
If you're in the tech sector and looking for investment funding, it a good idea to understand a little bit about the people you're pitching. Today’s conversation is a continuation of our last episode with one such investor, Brent Granado.  Brent's a JD, MBA who started out as a corporate attorney working on deals, moved in-house running corporate development and M&A doing deals, then jumped over to the funding/investment side. He's currently Managing Partner at Sweetwater Private Equity. Prior to that Brent was a General Partner at Sway Ventures. Both firms are focused exclusively on the tech sector, primarily on Software as a Service.We got into Brent's background the last time. Today we dig deeper into a discussion of venture funding in the tech space, the mechanics of that environment, how that landscape has changed over the years, and where things seem to be headed nowThese podcasts are dedicated to bridging the gap between business & IT. Each episode looks at different aspects of this relationship as we explore ways to help the two groups better communicate. We're passionate about this topic because it's a failure to communicate that causes 75% of all IT project failures and costs the US $1.8 Trillion every year—8% of US GDP! If you don't want to become one of these statistics and want to learn about an easy way to avoid it, please visit our website and schedule a free consultation. Alternatively, if there's some topic you'd like to hear more about, or you have an idea about how we might better serve our listeners, please shoot us an email at dave@bridgingbusinessit.com. We'd love to hear from you.http://bridgingbusinessit.com
S3 Ep1: A Candid Look at the Road from College to Tech VC and PE Partner: Part I
Jan 15 2023
S3 Ep1: A Candid Look at the Road from College to Tech VC and PE Partner: Part I
After an unexpected hiatus, we’re back at it. If you're in the tech sector and looking for investment funding, it really helps to understand a little bit about the people you're pitching to. That's why today’s conversation is with an old and very close friend, Brent Granado. Brent's a JD, MBA who started out as a corporate attorney working on deals, moved in-house running corporate development and M&A doing deals, then jumped over to the funding/investment side. He's currently Managing Partner at Sweetwater Private Equity. Prior to that Brent was a General Partner at Sway Ventures. Both firms are focused exclusively on the tech sector, primarily on Software as a Service.We start off talking about the value and gift of multi-generational friends and mentors. How an older guy (Dave) mentors a younger friend (Brent). Time goes by. Everyone gets older. The once young friend starts mentoring the undergraduate son (Dan) of his now “Silverback” buddy. That new relationship blossoms. The son’s career is accelerated. In about decade Dan enters the executive ranks. The mentoring cycle starts to repeat and the family of friends grows. Why genuine, honest, authentic, trust-based relationships are the most important part of your business career. And why if you ever forget that business is all about people, your life won’t be worth living. We pivot into Brent’s career journey. From there we get into a discussion of venture funding in the tech space, the mechanics of that environment, how that landscape has changed over the years, and where things seem to be headed now. The conversation was so expansive we’re breaking it into a couple of parts. The second half is coming in a few weeks. We hope you enjoy listening to this conversation as much as we enjoyed having it.                                                                                    -----These podcasts are dedicated to bridging the gap between business & IT. Each episode looks at different aspects of this relationship as we explore ways to help the two groups better communicate. We're passionate about this topic because it's a failure to communicate that causes 75% of all IT project failures and costs the US $1.8 Trillion every year—8% of US GDP! If you don't want to become one of these statistics and want to learn about an easy way to avoid it, please visit our website and schedule a free consultation. Alternatively, if there's some topic you'd like to hear more about, or you have an idea about how we might better serve our listeners, please shoot us an email at dave@bridgingbusinessit.com. We'd love to hear from you.http://bridgingbusinessit.com
S2 Ep 3 Agile Epiphanies at a $41B Company
May 2 2022
S2 Ep 3 Agile Epiphanies at a $41B Company
We were very fortunate today to have Barb Mastrianni, AVP and Senior Program Manager for the Chubb Group of Insurance Companies, Inc.  Barb shares the lessons that Chubb has learned about what it takes to do Agile "right" and how they've gone from a somewhat shaky start to an exponential growth in successful project outcomes. The secret is all about determining where you want to go before you try to go there, and putting governance guardrails in place to be sure that everyone (the business, IT, PMO, analysts, etc) understands the route and the destination before you set off. The idea of doing a pre-charter assessment to understand the project and rigor Chubb wraps around that process is particularly worthwhile. This is a must listen for any organization looking for ways to improve their Agile  practices.Guest LinkedIn Profile: Barb MastrianniThese podcasts are dedicated to bridging the gap between business & IT. Each episode looks at different aspects of this relationship as we explore ways to help the two groups better communicate. We're passionate about this topic because it's a failure to communicate that causes 75% of all IT project failures and costs the US $1.8 Trillion every year—8% of US GDP! If you don't want to become one of these statistics and want to learn about an easy way to avoid it, please visit our website and schedule a free consultation. Alternatively, if there's some topic you'd like to hear more about, or you have an idea about how we might better serve our listeners, please shoot us an email at dave@bridgingbusinessit.com. We'd love to hear from you.http://bridgingbusinessit.com
S2 E2: IT Product Management
Mar 31 2022
S2 E2: IT Product Management
Our guest today is Jeffrey Sherow. Jeff has spent a long career at the intersection of  business and technology.  He started out with Andersen Consulting, rose through the ranks to become an Accenture partner, and stayed there for several years. Jeff has become extremely interested in the role of the product manager. The primary reason for this interest is his belief that the product manager needs to be someone who intimately understands the customer and what a business needs to do to delight their customers. In a perfect world the product manager is responsible for delivering value to customers and has P&L responsibility. Unfortunately, that perfect world rarely exists. Jeff shares our concerns that in many companies those on the business side have abrogated their responsibility to drive customer value through the intelligent deployment of technology. Too often business people view 'IT projects' as the IT department's problem and have lost sight of the fact that these are never IT projects. They are business projects that just happen to be enabled by technology.Guest LinkedIn Profile: Jeffrey SherowThese podcasts are dedicated to bridging the gap between business & IT. Each episode looks at different aspects of this relationship as we explore ways to help the two groups better communicate. We're passionate about this topic because it's a failure to communicate that causes 75% of all IT project failures and costs the US $1.8 Trillion every year—8% of US GDP! If you don't want to become one of these statistics and want to learn about an easy way to avoid it, please visit our website and schedule a free consultation. Alternatively, if there's some topic you'd like to hear more about, or you have an idea about how we might better serve our listeners, please shoot us an email at dave@bridgingbusinessit.com. We'd love to hear from you.http://bridgingbusinessit.com
S1 E10: Negotiating IT Agreements
Dec 15 2021
S1 E10: Negotiating IT Agreements
This episode is with Dan Kelly, founder and CEO of The Negotiator Guru. Dan is the person we have to thank for our podcast as he was the one who originally invited Dave to be on his, “The State of the CIO”. The feedback from that show was so good it convinced us to launch our own. As the title implies we’ll be talking about (among other things) the tricks of the trade when negotiating large enterprise software licenses. Dan shares some very frank observations about the predatory behavior of some vendors, the general lack of awareness and preparation among many business buyers, and the fairly simple steps most buyers can take to make better purchasing decisions and save a lot of money along the way. It’s a lively conversation to put it mildly. We think you’ll enjoy it. And don’t forget to check out the “State of the CIO” podcast.Guest LinkedIn Profile: Dan KellyThese podcasts are dedicated to bridging the gap between business & IT. Each episode looks at different aspects of this relationship as we explore ways to help the two groups better communicate. We're passionate about this topic because it's a failure to communicate that causes 75% of all IT project failures and costs the US $1.8 Trillion every year—8% of US GDP! If you don't want to become one of these statistics and want to learn about an easy way to avoid it, please visit our website and schedule a free consultation. Alternatively, if there's some topic you'd like to hear more about, or you have an idea about how we might better serve our listeners, please shoot us an email at dave@bridgingbusinessit.com. We'd love to hear from you.http://bridgingbusinessit.com
S1 E9: Data, Analytics & Reporting
Dec 1 2021
S1 E9: Data, Analytics & Reporting
Roger Moore (no, not 007) is our guest today. Roger currently teaches Analytics at the University of Chicago where he’s also an alum of their MBA program. Over his 30-plus year career he’s been with a number of major consulting groups such as BCG, Gartner, Booze and PWC. He’s currently running his own Data and Analytics firm. This conversation is foundational. Roger helps us unpack the critical components and structures of a good data, analytics and reporting organization / strategy. Unfortunately, due to the enormous expanse of this topic, we weren’t able to get into detailed discussions on the mechanics of the process. Fortunately, Roger’s already agreed to come back for deeper dives in the near future. Stay tuned.Guest LinkedIn Profile: Roger MooreThese podcasts are dedicated to bridging the gap between business & IT. Each episode looks at different aspects of this relationship as we explore ways to help the two groups better communicate. We're passionate about this topic because it's a failure to communicate that causes 75% of all IT project failures and costs the US $1.8 Trillion every year—8% of US GDP! If you don't want to become one of these statistics and want to learn about an easy way to avoid it, please visit our website and schedule a free consultation. Alternatively, if there's some topic you'd like to hear more about, or you have an idea about how we might better serve our listeners, please shoot us an email at dave@bridgingbusinessit.com. We'd love to hear from you.http://bridgingbusinessit.com
S1 E7: Nestles, SAP & the Greater Good
Nov 1 2021
S1 E7: Nestles, SAP & the Greater Good
We’re joined today by Ray Weale, currently COO of IDMerit and formerly Director of Digital Innovation at Nestle. Ray helped lead the global unification of literally thousands of Nestles processes and systems on to 34 standard processes on SAP—realizing staggering benefits along the way. Our conversation starts with Ray’s background and carries into how Nestle accomplished this remarkable global integration and unification. Personal note:  I must confess to feeling a bit sycophant-ish as we fawned over Ray’s story. However, I think anyone who’s been around a large transformation effort knows the challenges of pulling it off successfully. In this case, after learning from their first failed attempt, both Nestles and SAP should be commended for this incredible achievement. This is a story well worth hearing and an excellent example of what an organization can accomplish once they realize they’re not running an IT project—they’re running a business project that just happens to be enabled by technology—DaveGuest LinkedIn Profile: Ray WealeThese podcasts are dedicated to bridging the gap between business & IT. Each episode looks at different aspects of this relationship as we explore ways to help the two groups better communicate. We're passionate about this topic because it's a failure to communicate that causes 75% of all IT project failures and costs the US $1.8 Trillion every year—8% of US GDP! If you don't want to become one of these statistics and want to learn about an easy way to avoid it, please visit our website and schedule a free consultation. Alternatively, if there's some topic you'd like to hear more about, or you have an idea about how we might better serve our listeners, please shoot us an email at dave@bridgingbusinessit.com. We'd love to hear from you.http://bridgingbusinessit.com