New Yorker writer Jia Tolentino has lived what she describes as a “conventional life.” And yet, she’s always questioning everything—taking notes about life’s dark corners in order to write about them in her signature, incisive style. Isa sits down with Jia, a Scorpio sun, Aries moon, and Leo rising, to unpack how Jia’s subterranean inclinations reveal themselves in her life and work. Jia also reflects on her lifelong pursuit of ecstatic experiences, which in her youth came from drugs and religion; but now, come from motherhood. While she settles into this more domestic phase of her life, Jia also resists the expectation that care should be reserved only for her small family and instead chooses to also invest in her wider community.