IPWatchdog Unleashed

Gene Quinn

Each week we journey into the world of intellectual property to discuss the law, news, policy and politics of innovation, technology, and creativity.  With analysis and commentary from industry thought leaders and newsmakers from around the world, IPWatchdog Unleashed is hosted by world renowned patent attorney and founder of IPWatchdog.com, Gene Quinn.

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What Went Wrong and How do we Fix the Patent System?
Jan 13 2025
What Went Wrong and How do we Fix the Patent System?
This week on IPWatchdog Unleashed I speak with my long-time friend, John White. Many in the patent community no doubt already know John quite well. Over 30 years ago he created the PLI Patent Bar Review Course that upwards of 40,000 patent practitioners have successfully used to study for the Patent Bar Exam. Today, John continues to teach the patent bar review, but he is also Special Counsel with Harness IP, where he represents clients all over the world and provides expert witness services. I’ve known John since 1999 when I first started teaching the PLI Patent Bar Review Course, and we have been great friends ever since.  Our conversation this week was much like any number of conversations we have had over the years over dinner or drinks. What prompted me to ask John to speak with us this week was an article he recently wrote, which we published on IPWatchdog. It was styled as an open letter to Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, the co-leaders of the Department of Government Efficiency. In that article John explains that “the patent system is currently foundered”, but that it can be fixed with “focus and ongoing commitment to see the fixes through to results.” So, that is where we start our conversation, like so many we have had over the last 26 years—what is wrong with the patent system and how should it be fixed. Visit us online at IPWatchdog.com. You can also visit our channels at YouTube, LinkedIn, X, Instagram and Facebook.
Patent Pools, Patent Dealmaking and Outrageously Good Audio
Jan 6 2025
Patent Pools, Patent Dealmaking and Outrageously Good Audio
This week on IPWatchdog Unleashed I speak with Heath Hoglund, who until several years ago was Vice President of IP and Standards for Dolby. About 3 years ago Heath left Dolby and became President of Via Licensing Alliance, which we discuss in some detail in our conversation. And truth be told he really didn’t leave Dolby. Via administers patent pools and has historically been heavily invested in the audio arena, and with Dolby being one of the premiere audio innovators of all time it is hardly a surprise that Dolby has been a long time participating and is one of the major patent owners who participates in the patent pools administered by Via. One of the first things Heath did as President of Via was to work on merging with MPEG-LA, which was a patent pool administrator that was primarily focused on video related technologies. So, today, Via Licensing is a major player in both audio and video technologies. During our conversation we discuss wide ranging issues, from the inevitability that there will be some implementers who do not want to take a license and will require patent owners to litigate, to the changing landscape, particularly in China where companies have evolved from merely needing a license to also being a licensor, to the European Union working toward regulating SEPs, and much more. Visit us online at IPWatchdog.com. You can also visit our channels at YouTube, LinkedIn, X, Instagram and Facebook.
How In-Game Experiences Enable New Licensing Revenue for IP Owners
Dec 23 2024
How In-Game Experiences Enable New Licensing Revenue for IP Owners
This week on IPWatchdog Unleashed we are going to dive into the online gaming and game development world in a conversation about gaming, intellectual property, licensing, game development, branding and much more. Our conversation this week focuses on Spaceport Technologies, which is a technology company that enables brand owners to monetize their IP and game platforms to offer content creators the ability to license the use of those brands within their game environment. To do this Spaceport uses innovative technology that reduces transaction costs and allows for the monetization of intellectual property assets. In fact, through the use of Spaceport protocols and apps the acquisition of rights and payment for those rights through numerous small dollar value transactions is not just faster and easier, the deals actually become possible. So, with that backdrop, let me introduce our guests. First is Dan Temkin, who is General Counsel and Head of Intellectual Property for Spaceport Technologies. He began his career working for Procter & Gamble, where he spent nearly a decade. It was while he was at P&G that he became first introduced to intellectual property, telling me that as he worked with the IP attorneys, he came to the conclusion that what they were working on was “a lot more interesting” than what he was working on. Reaching that conclusion led him to Boston University for law school and ultimately a career in intellectual property law. Our second guest this week is Jay Kolbe, a co-founder of Impact Partners, which is a strategic communications firm that focuses on family offices, venture capital and startup founders. Jay is a specialist in marketing technology-focused PR. He develops influential communications programs that increase the valuation of the companies he advises. And in addition to working with Spaceport, Jay also works with Josh Harlan and Harlan Capital, who we spoke with several weeks ago about how they invest in and monetize recurring IP revenue streams.Visit us online at IPWatchdog.com. You can also visit our channels at YouTube, LinkedIn, X, Instagram and Facebook.
Thoughtfully and Intentionally Building and Managing an In-House IP Team
Dec 16 2024
Thoughtfully and Intentionally Building and Managing an In-House IP Team
This week my conversation is with Carlo Cotrone, who is a Chief IP Counsel and frequent contributor to IPWatchdog, both our online publication and at our in-person programs. Carlo writes and speaks frequently about setting up, growing and managing in-house IP departments, and that is the focus of our conversation. We discuss taking a holistic view that focuses on the IP strategy, the people, and the operational aspects of building and managing a team, which includes both in-house employees, outside law firms and service providers, all working together in coordination to deliver high impact for the company.  During our conversation we discuss the need to guard against your in-house team falling into doing commoditized work, which gets in the way of your in-house team really partnering with the business and maximizing value for the company. We also discuss what Carlo refers to as “servant leadership”, and when he discusses the concept of servant leadership you can’t help but be reminded of the old saying about nothing being impossible to accomplish if you don’t care who gets the credit. Carlo explains that this service-oriented mindset has allowed him to confidently and carefully navigate whatever issues arise in a thoughtful and intentional way. And it is “intentionality” that Carlo focuses on repeatedly in his writings, presentations and during this conversation, because as he explains constantly fighting fires is not the right way to do business. Sure, things need to be done and issues will arise, but to successfully lead you need to focus on the fundamentals, strategy, people, operations, and periodically reevaluate all of the above to ensure the ideas and plans you are trying to execute continue to make sense and everyone is rowing in the same direction and toward the same goals, ensuring that that status quo is not being accepted and the team is delivering what the company and internal clients deserve and require. Visit us online at IPWatchdog.com. You can also visit our channels at YouTube, LinkedIn, X, Instagram and Facebook.
False PTO Narratives and the Urgent Need for PTAB Reform
Nov 25 2024
False PTO Narratives and the Urgent Need for PTAB Reform
On the heels of the PREVAIL Act passing in the Senate Judiciary Committee, the very next day USPTO Director Kathi Vidal wrote on the Director’s Blog about how wonderful the PTAB has been, saying in part: “Since AIA proceedings began over a decade ago, almost 70% of challenged patents have been upheld at the PTAB.”This claim by Director Vidal initially made me speechless. Simply stated, she is wrong. It is absolutely false for anyone to say or suggest that 70% of challenged patents have been upheld at the PTAB. This claim is not true. It is pure fiction.PTAB stats admit that out of those patents that reach a final written decision 85% lose at least one claim and 70% lost all claims. That is the reality for patent owners. If the PTAB issues a final decision you are virtually certain to lose, and these statistics have largely remained unchanged, with only minimal fluctuation since the inception of the PTAB in 2012.So, exactly who is fooling who? The way the rules are structured, and the way we have actually witnessed the PTAB operate, confirms that no patent is safe ever. And this is not meant as any indictment of PTAB judges—they are just doing the job as defined in the staute passed by Congress and the rules created by the PTO. This is, however, a scathing indictment of those laws and rules, which are in desperate need of reform. Visit us online at IPWatchdog.com. You can also visit our channels at YouTube, LinkedIn, X, Instagram and Facebook.
U.S. National Security and Competitiveness Begin with IP
Nov 11 2024
U.S. National Security and Competitiveness Begin with IP
Walt Copan joins us for a conversation about the role of science, technology and innovation in U.S. competitiveness and for U.S. national security. As many of you no doubt know, Walt is a former Undersecretary of Commerce and served as the 16th Director of the National Institute of Standards and Technology, a position for which he was unanimously confirmed by the Senate during the Trump Administration. Today, Walt is the Vice President for Research and Technology Transfer at the Colorado School of Mines in Golden, Colorado. I invited Walt to join us for our annual life sciences program this year. My pitch was that we would have a one-on-one conversation that would not only make up the final segment of the program, but which would also be used for our IPWatchdog Unleashed podcast. He graciously accepted my invitation, and we sat down for this conversation on Wednesday, October 30. During our conversation we discuss the ongoing Bayh-Dole march-in rights drama being caused by his old agency—NIST—which has published a framework that would allow the government to strip patent rights away from exclusive licensees if the government believes the product covered by a patent is too expensive. We also discussed the diverging approach to commercialization between universities who can own and license patent rights and federal agencies, which operate under an entirely different statutory structure that makes it virtually impossible to get innovations made by federal government employees to the marketplace and commercialized for the good of society. We also discuss the upward trajectory of China vis-à-vis innovation and intellectual property, and the stagnation within the U.S. innovation ecosystem, which has been primarily led by uncertainty and dismantling of the U.S. intellectual property laws. Visit us online at IPWatchdog.com. You can also visit our channels at YouTube, LinkedIn, X, Instagram and Facebook.
The Judge Newman Story in Her Own Words
Nov 4 2024
The Judge Newman Story in Her Own Words
This week we have a special guest—the Honorable Pauline Newman, Circuit Judge on the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit. Judge Newman spoke at our annual Life Sciences program at IPWatchdog Studios on Tuesday, October 29. Her remarks were largely unscripted, although she did have some notes that she consulted from time to time during her nearly 45 minute presentation. Judge Newman told her story, and the story of the Federal Circuit, in her own words. So powerful were her comments that at least several in the audience were seen shedding a tear, and she received a hearty standing ovation. Judge Newman is being wrongfully persecuted by her colleagues on the Federal Circuit. She has taken and passed with flying colors the three different mental evaluations she has submitted to, all conducted by different, highly regarded evaluators. And in addition to the final mental evaluation she was given a cutting edge CT scan of her brain, which showed no signs of cognitive decline, and in fact rather remarkably showed a healthy brain that looked to be the scan of someone in their 20s. Faced with all the inaccurate statements in the complaint, which have never been correct despite their falsity, the Federal Circuit persists in excluding Judge Newman from hearing cases, which every day is becoming a more significant constitutional crisis. So, against this backdrop we are pleased to present the Honorable Pauline Newman. Visit us online at IPWatchdog.com. You can also visit our channels at YouTube, LinkedIn, X, Instagram and Facebook.
Getting to Yes at the Patent Office
Oct 28 2024
Getting to Yes at the Patent Office
In this episode of IPWatchdog Unleashed, we discuss patent prosecution with the director of intellectual property at one of the top five filing companies in the world. Sivon Kalminov is the Director the Intellectual Property Division at Canon USA, where he is responsible for managing the Division’s day-to-day patent prosecution work, which includes overseeing both the patent prosecution and administration departments. He also provides support on patent litigation matters, contract matters, and general U.S. patent law-related advice to various domestic and international Canon companies and subsidiaries. He is a current member of the California State Bar Intellectual Property Section, and a past Chair of the Section.Our wide-ranging conversation took place in person on October 1, at IPWatchdog LIVE, shortly after Sivon spoke on a panel about strategies for getting to yes when working with patent examiners.During our conversation, we discuss the unique set-up of the Canon intellectual property department, which sees Sivon and his team representing Canon USA, but also representing various Canon entities from around the world as they enter the United States to obtain patents on previously filed applications. We also discuss the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) switching from EFS-Web to Patent Center, the unceremonious death of the After Final Consideration 2.0 program, examiners raising Section 112 and Section 101 issues for the first time in a Notice of Allowance, strategies for working with examiners, the importance of interviews to get on the same page with examiners, when and whether it is appropriate to appeal examiner rejections to the Board, and much more.Visit us online at IPWatchdog.com. You can also visit our channels at YouTube, LinkedIn, X, Instagram and Facebook.
The Most Important Issues Facing the IP Industry
Oct 14 2024
The Most Important Issues Facing the IP Industry
This week on IPWatchdog Unleashed we have a special episode. At the end of September we held our annual all-topics conference, which we call IPWatchdog LIVE. This conference brings together some of the top thought leaders and newsmakers from the entire industry, with a variety of different backgrounds and people who focus on various different niche verticals within the IP community. So, while the conference was ongoing, Eileen McDermott, our editor in chief, asked some of the industry leaders in attendance what they thought was the most important issue facing the intellectual property industry.“What is critically important and every leader in government needs to focus on is to make sure that the IP system is stable, it's predictable, and it's subject to fewer fluctuations,” said Andrei Iancu, former Under Secretary of Commerce for IP and Director of the USPTO during the Trump Administration. “We need to work towards a stronger, more consistent, more predictable intellectual property system, whether it's patents, trademarks, copyrights, or trade secrets.”“The most pressing issue is the lack of appreciation of the link between strong and effective intellectual property rights and innovation outcomes,” said David Kappos, former Under Secretary of Commerce for IP and Director of the USPTO during the Obama administration. To hear more from these thought leaders, and others including Judge Pauline Newman, Alden Abbott, Matteo Sabattini, Judge Susan Braden, Patrick Kilbride, Hans Sauer, Brian O’Shaughnessy, and others, listen to this episode of IPWatchdog Unleashed.Visit us online at IPWatchdog.com. You can also visit our channels at YouTube, LinkedIn, X, Instagram and Facebook.
Is it Time to Abolish the Federal Circuit?
Sep 30 2024
Is it Time to Abolish the Federal Circuit?
This week we will change things up a bit. Until now our podcast has focused on conversations with newsmakers and interesting personalities. We won’t be giving that format up, but this week we will shift things to allow me to do a little ranting on a topic I’ve been thinking about more and more over the last several years; namely, do we still need, or even want, a Federal Circuit? I’ve been kicking this question around in my head for a while. There are a variety of reasons why the Federal Circuit seems to have outlived its usefulness, from panel dependency, to what at times appears to be utter disdain for certainty, predictability and even binding precedent, to the shocking, unfair and egregious treatment of Judge Newman. Why do we need a Federal Circuit? Why should we want this flawed institution to continue?What we know is very little of what the Federal Circuit does any more relates to patents, with only 15% of what has occupied the Federal Circuit over the last six months relating to opinions in patent cases. Meanwhile, what decisions the Federal Circuit does issue are panel dependent and show not a care in the world about the Court’s original mandate, which was to create a unified national patent law and recognize that at least some patents have to be valid and enforced. And now over the last 2 years we have an inexplicable usurpation of authority with the virtual impeachment of Judge Newman. If these judges are so unfamiliar with basic due process and the opportunity to be fairly heard why should anyone believe they are themselves competent to be judges on any level? Visit us online at IPWatchdog.com. You can also visit our channels at YouTube, LinkedIn, X, Instagram and Facebook.
Problems, Solutions and the Case for Patents
Sep 16 2024
Problems, Solutions and the Case for Patents
This week the tables are turned. As many of you know Eli Mazour is the founder of the Clause 8 podcast, and the podcast is known by its tagline as “the Voice of IP.” Indeed, for years Eli has been just that… the voice of IP… interviewing numerous people in the industry, from Federal Circuit Judges to Chief IP Counsel and political leaders, I even had an opportunity to sit with Eli for a conversation when he first started Clause 8, which we discuss at the start of our conversation.So, once I started my own podcast it was only natural to sit down with Eli for my own discussion with him, to pick his brain in an unscripted, open-end conversation. And the resulting conversation did not disappoint. We discussed a great many things about patents and innovation, the Federal Circuit and why clients want and need patents, and patent strategy. We begin our conversation with discussion of how Eli got into the science and engineering world and ultimately into the patent profession, and we also discuss his new home at Foley & Lardner, which has embraced Eli’s work on Clause 8, which will continue. In retrospect our conversation wound up being largely about the key to writing and obtaining high quality patents, which is also the key to innovating in the first place. You need to have a purpose and a goal. You need to be addressing an identifiable problem with a real, concrete, technical solution. And you need to focus on something that will actually matter to the client. And while patent strategy and ensuring protection actually protects what the client is selling matters most for those clients who will have several dozen or even several hundred patents, it really matters for everyone. Visit us online at IPWatchdog.com. You can also visit our channels at YouTube, LinkedIn, X, Instagram and Facebook.
An In-House Counsel View on Patent Strategy and Building Relationships
Sep 9 2024
An In-House Counsel View on Patent Strategy and Building Relationships
This week our conversation takes us in-house to discuss patent strategy and insights on how outside counsel can best work with in-house counsel to build a solid working relationship and actually deliver what the client wants and needs.My conversation is with Gary Lobel, who is currently senior patent counsel for Reckitt where he is responsible for global legal and intellectual property matters for several different business units within the Reckitt family. In this role Gary plans and implements global intellectual property strategies in the area of biotechnology, pharmacologic and nutritional formulations. He works with in-house constituencies, evaluates opportunities for potential partnerships and acquisitions, and he manages outside counsel working on both patent procurement and litigation. Prior to joining Reckitt, Gary was Chief Patent Counsel for Nestlé, and he also worked early in his career as a patent attorney at Novartis. I always enjoy my conversations with Gary. He is extremely bright and thoughtful, I find that every time I speak with Gary I learn something, and our conversations often go down paths I didn’t expect but which are always interesting and informative.  Gary has a knack for seeing all sides to every issue or problem as if he is constantly playing a game of 3D chess and is at least several moves ahead. In our conversation this week we had a wide ranging conversation on patent strategy, including working with patent examiners—including what to do when you are assigned to a difficult patent examiner with a low allowance rate—the importance of interviews, tips for getting past 112 rejections, and how outside counsel can build solid, working relationships with in-house counsel, and much more. Visit us online at IPWatchdog.com. You can also visit our channels at YouTube, LinkedIn, X, Instagram and Facebook.