Exploring Hydrogen

Andy Marsland

Join Andy Marsland in exploring Hydrogen Energy where you will learn about the exciting advancements, opportunities and challenges of this nascent energy sector. We delve into how hydrogen can contribute to the decarbonisation of Australia and the world, and investigate what it is going to take for its adoption into transportation, industry and society. read less

Hydrogen’s Future in Rail – Guided by Deutsche Bahn Engineering and Consulting
May 29 2023
Hydrogen’s Future in Rail – Guided by Deutsche Bahn Engineering and Consulting
Exploring Hydrogen ep 15 - Shownotes Intro:In this episode we’re geeking out about Hydrogen trains with Troy Shorley, Technical Director and Daniel Koning, Principal Consultant and Subject Matter Expert from Deutsche Bahn. Deutsche Bahn currently has the largest fleet of hydrogen trains in the world, so in this episode, we enjoyed welcoming two of their experts on low and zero-emission technologies to take a deeper dive. DB Engineering and Consulting is working in 84 nations worldwide, providing railway engineering, and railway consulting operations services. Deutsche Bahn Engineering and Consulting is part of the Deutsche Bahn Group in Germany, the owner and operator of the Rail Network in Germany. Deutsche Bahn Group employs 320,000 people worldwide and DB Engineering & Consulting employs over 5,000 people. Bios: Troy is an Electrical Engineer with over 20 years of experience in electricity, transmission rail and engineering consultancy.He has extensive experience in rail traction systems, low and zero-emission technologies, and examining the different technologies and their interdependence within rail traction systems. He is an expert in system design, earthing, and bonding system integration, as well as construction and commissioning supervision. Daniel is a subject matter expert for railway systems and low and zero-emission technologies. He has 21 years of experience in the railway sector and over 10 years focused on innovative railway technologies and digitization. He has worked on major Australian and international projects across Europe, the USA, and Latin America as the Lead Subject Matter Expert, at Zero Emission Technologies.  03.10 - What is the opportunity/use-case for Hydrogen Trains? Introducing hydrogen technology to trains would significantly contribute to decarbonising the transport sector. Hydrogen can bridge non-electrified gaps in our network where battery systems will be insufficient and where overhead continuing electrification can't be justified because the line frequency is not high enough. 05.00 – What percentage of the railway network in Germany is electric? And the decarbonisation opportunity for high-speed trains displacing short-haul flights Currently, 65% of the network is electric and achieving 100% is not viable due to some of the lines being rural and certain areas that are not populated so the cost of electrification is too high. Another opportunity is the decarbonisation of Australia, and one of the strategies Germany uses to reduce the overall decarbonization of transport is to replace short-haul flights with high-speed rail intercity express services.  7:00- Other options available (eg Battery /Biofuels/synfuels etc) to decarbonise the sector The best option for highly frequented railway corridors is full electrification since the overall system efficiency is roughly 85 to 90% and you can't beat that.  When you can't justify full electrification for shorter routes currently up to a hundred kilometres that are non-electrified, then battery electric traction is a good alternative. You can recover braking energy and also have a higher system efficiency when the stretches are getting a little bit longer. Battery technology currently can't cope with that and also when the power demand is a little bit bigger, especially for freight transport. Hydrogen is a very interesting alternative, the fuel system can provide the range and combined with a battery system it can cope with a high power demand. And as an intermediate solution, we can look at renewable carbon-based fuels. They're also a way to quickly decarbonize railway traffic, and they are potentially a drop-in solution for existing diesel fleets. 9:10 - FFI is looking at ammonia for their train line supporting one of their mines in WA.  Hydrogen is interesting, but the range you can achieve is limited due to the volumetric energy, density, and ammonia is a very interesting hydrogen carrier. So by using ammonia, you can store more hydrogen than in the compressed form. FFI and Deutsche Bahn are currently testing a retrofitted diesel engine on a test lap in Germany. We mix hydrogen and ammonia to a combustive gas, inject it into the engine and try to optimize the combustion process. 10:35 - Some of the differences in how Hydrogen Trains are operated and maintained The hydrogen fuel cell trains effectively have an electric drive system, so they're very similar to the existing electric locomotives so they're very low maintenance schedule and cost for the electric drive system. The difference comes in with the energy system. The need for battery replacements and hydrogen fuel that are replacements.  12.- Safety and Standards around the maintenance of hydrogen vehicles There is work to be done with aligning the standards to achieve the safety required so there's no detriment to the current railway systems. It is the same transition as centuries ago coming from coal as the main source of a rail vehicle then transiting to diesel. Everything thought diesel, this combustible liquid, is very dangerous and new procedures had to be developed. So now it's transiting from diesel that people are very unfamiliar with. 14.48 - Where Germany is up to and what's the plan from here A few smaller fleets have been tested in commercial operation. The first commercial operation with a larger fleet just started in December. The trains are operated by DB and there are another few public tender processes in place currently to procure additional fleets for different rural networks.  The main reason for that is that the German government is really pushing hard for the decarbonization of the transport sector so there's a net zero target of 2040 for DB. 27 units currently being put into commercial operation near Frankfurt. 17.45 - Other projects DB are working on around the world  Australia - DB is providing an introductory level of support by providing up-to-date information to organizations looking to implement the technologies so we can either guide or validate some of the strategy technology decisions that they are considering. The follow-on steps for that is also, to understand the Australian standards and how they view the introduction of hydrogen technologies into the rail environment. Brazil - Another solution done from Australia has been a feasibility study for Vale in Brazil. So looking at their Iron Ore operations are the route of 900 kilometres. Initially, they were looking for an electrification solution, so DB put together a combined battery and overhead electrification solution. They are now looking at Hydrogen options such as ammonia. United States - Support the team here from Australia to look at options for the Californian network to deploy hydrogen trains for their passenger services. Germany - A project Ecosystem that is currently ongoing, is a collaboration together with Siemens Group to develop a hydrogen ecosystem consisting of a novel hydrogen passenger train and high-performance refuelling infrastructure. 21:35 - Comparison at the moment in terms of Capex initially and then the total cost of ownership.  If you look at hydrogen trains currently for passenger operation, the Capex is significantly higher, roughly two to three times that of a diesel train, which makes it very challenging for implementation. The second challenge definitely is currently the cost of fuel. So green hydrogen produced in Germany is very expensive because we have limited renewable energy to produce that hydrogen. So in my opinion, Australia is in a fantastic position. It's very fortunate regarding renewable Energy Australia can play in the future. There's a trade agreement in place between Germany and Australia about hydrogen technology and the supply of green hydrogen, which is very exciting.  Last but not least, the last challenge is that hydrogen trains still have a limited range when compared to diesel trains which we are working through innovative solutions for. 24.14 - What about the recyclability and what happens with the existing fleet?  When we look at these new components that go into a propulsion system, batteries and fuel cells. In every rolling stock today it has a lead acid battery system as part of the train energy system for these batteries. There is a whole recycling chain in place today, and I think if we transit to lithium-ion batteries and also to fuel cells, the same recycle chain has to be developed for these new battery cell chemistries and also for the fuel cells. 26.54 - Commentary around, the regulations and the government policies for hydrogen in Australia, and have there been kind of any sticking points to move things forward over here The process is starting but still, a lot to get done for the rail industry, there's certainly greater involvement needed from regulatory bodies. Would also then need some pilot projects so that they can actually see how these standards can be applied and showcase that this is something that's very viable already. 28:30 - Other messages for the audience It'd be fantastic to see here in Australia the railway sector transiting towards zero emission. We need here also in Australia would be more government support for these new technologies.Australia's very much focused on the production of hydrogen and export of hydrogen, but not very much on local applications.We need to move quickly. The legislation that came out of the US for the Inflation Reduction Act and quickly followed by what's happening in Europe and Canada, Australia needs to move quickly to take advantage of the abundance of green or renewable energy.If Australia doesn't act quickly, those long-term contracts could be tied up with contracts from organizations out of the US and out of Europe, out of Canada, that was able to supply that hydrogen much more cheaply than Australia.Australia has the big advantage of being stable politically and very reliable. 33.00 - Where do you see the sector five years from now and then 10 years from now, and perhaps if you focus on the rail sector in Australia At least at the trial implementation stage of introducing the hydrogen technologies in the rail sector. So whether that be as a fuel cell or ammonia combustion, there are certainly opportunities in the freight sector, in the mining sector who seem to be more motivated to be involved in these projects. 35 - The best way for our listeners to potentially learn more, reach out, and find out what you guys are up to.  Deutsche Bahn  http://www.deutschebahn.com Deutsche Bahn Engineering and consulting http://www.db-engineering-consulting.com  Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/company/db-e-c-o-group/https://www.linkedin.com/company/db-engineering-consulting/
ATCO - From Humble Beginnings, to a Global Hydrogen and Energy Journey
Mar 27 2023
ATCO - From Humble Beginnings, to a Global Hydrogen and Energy Journey
Introduction to the guest,  Russell James has over 19 years of experience in energy and is experienced in the delivery of small to large-scale energy and utility infrastructure projects. He has extensive knowledge of gas and energy markets, pricing, and regulations. Over the last four years, he has led or played a key role in all ATCO's hydrogen-related activities, including the development of the Clean Energy Innovation Hub, conceptualising and sourcing funding from the WA Government Renewable Hydrogen Fund for the Hydrogen Vehicle Refuelling station, and securing $28.7m from ARENA to develop the Clean Energy Innovation Park - a commercial scale renewable hydrogen production project.   1.30 - Background of ATCOATCO stands for Alberta Trailer Company and began with modular trailers, which grew into acquiring Canadian utilities in the 1980s, including electricity generation, gas processing, storage, and transmission. They have just celebrated their 75th year in operation.ATCO has diverse business operations, including modular structures, power stations, and a gas distribution network - in Australia, the network has 800,000 connection points and a focus on renewables and hydrogen/future fuels. 4 - Humble beginningsATCO now has over 6,200 employees and over $22 billion worth of assets. It has been operational in about a hundred countries and has 75,000 kilometres of electrical power lines and 65,000 kilometres of natural gas pipelines. However, despite the growth, it’s a very family-orientated business. “We do what we say we're going to do, and that includes supporting those communities where we operate, and also supporting our employees in what they're doing.”4.45 - Clean Energy Innovation HubThe project is an opportunity to showcase applications for the technology and the use of hydrogen gas in commercial, industrial and residential settings. “Energy security as you can imagine is extremely important particularly with our control room operation at the site, we can't afford to have outages because we're responding to those 800,000 customers, 24 7, 365 days a year”6.45 - ●     Training facility at the innovation hub, which is a registered training organisation where they train all operatives to construct, operate and maintain the network.●     Hydrogen courses at the facility●     Have around 100 kilowatts of electrical demand at any point in time, 300 kilowatts of solar onto the rooftop.●     Store excess renewables. ● 200-kilowatt electrolyzer to convert water and split that through a proton exchange membrane (PEM) electrolyzer, into hydrogen gas and oxygen.9.35 - Key learnings- Supply Chain challenges: “procuring an electrolyzer was different at that point in time when we were buying a 200-kilowatt electrolyzer. You couldn't go down to Bunnings and buy one off the shelf!!!.”- Different procurement practices.- Learning also included the integration of the regulations and standards and bringing the technical regulator along the journey as well.The next Stage in the project was gas blending:“The next step in the project and one we can talk about a little bit further is a blending project, which takes it out from behind the meter. We're actually blending out into around 2,700 homes and businesses around the Jandakot area.11.30 - What percentage was it blended into the network and what percentage do you think you can get to?13.19 - Collaboration in California with Southern California (SoCal) Gas“...the approach that we like to take at ATCO is a ‘crawl, walk, run’. We'd rather learn on these smaller jobs and start to build to scale. And that's what we're doing, we're still focused on the large-scale export projects, but also let's build at manageable and build skill and capability.With that project we're able to assist SoCal Gas to replicate what we've got through the hub and the hybrid home, which is another part of our site at Jandakot.”15 - Clean Energy Innovation Park“These days we've got people knocking on the door wanting to procure hydrogen and use it to really get the industry going. We’ve utilised the skills and expertise that we've built on the hub to now get to a 10-megawatt scale. And the facility that we've designed, we now can replicate. 17 - Cost of Hydrogen“The main factors that we see with the cost per kilo; there are some capital elements to it, but the main driver is energy input. It's, it's a very high percentage - somewhere in the region of 60-70%+ of the makeup in the cost of hydrogen. And particularly in Australia at this point in time with some of the energy volatility, which creates a challenge for hydrogen production. We need to see those costs continue to come down”18.45 - The collaboration with FFI on the refuelling stations. 700Bar refueler, co-located at Jandakot Clean Energy Innovation Hub.Electric vehicles definitely have a place as do fuel-cell electric vehicles – Hydrogen cars are also electric cars which people sometimes forget. The difference is how the power is getting delivered into that electric motor.”23.40 - Range anxiety and refuelling stationsI think it is quite important that we take a jurisdictional approach and, a geographical approach to where these are located.“On the East coast of Australia it's been really good to see the States combining and look at things like the hydrogen highway between, New South Wales and Victoria and Queensland and how that can integrate. That's a really important part of the nation coming together.”25.45 - Where does Australia sit in comparison?Australia has to move on quite quickly, and a coordinated national framework would be beneficial. This will allow people that are looking to invest in hydrogen to move forward. The challenge is who pays for it - and that's always the question. 27.30 - What are the biggest challenges within your team at the moment? “We're a small team, but we're very agile and, and nimble and we've got some really strong skills and capability within the team. However we need to focus on projects that are going to start to move the dial and get to commerciality.”This is an industry where collaboration is key. Each party has a role to play. There's enough to go around for everybody in order to achieve the goals of export into 2030, 2040 and beyond. So in this early stage, it is working together with like-minded companies and users. And that's not only domestically, but also internationally to start these projects moving - and recognize where we all can work together for the greater good.It is an important step to build skill, capability, expertise, and knowledge here in Australia. And also, to increase the size of projects to get to export. We need to show that Australia has a real opportunity for hydrogen.”34.30    - Collaboration with Suncor Energy in Canada34 - Low Hanging-Fruit  - including Gas distribution networks and the transportation sector.35  - The Future:Growing to a business unit that has its own operational-centric business across Australia.We've looked at a multitude of different fuels including Biomethane, and particularly as part of our gas distribution network - it is the role of renewable gases that can help decarbonize that operation.39 - Parting wordsWe need to be moving NOW.“A really important step to start to move these policies and regulations along faster. We need to fast-track the project approval process. We need to fast-track approvals and legislation to help projects progress through.Otherwise, we will lag behind. Many other countries are looking at hydrogen production. I'd hate for us as Australians, to miss out on what could be a great opportunity for not only our generation but also future generations, not only on an economic basis but also playing a part in carbon reductions across the globe.”
An ‘Anchor’ project for Western Australia – Frontier Energy
Mar 2 2023
An ‘Anchor’ project for Western Australia – Frontier Energy
Right time, the right technology, the right scaleThis episode uncovers Frontier Energy's flagship project from advancements to challenges, offtake, community engagement and more. Tune in to find out for yourself how hydrogen can contribute to the decarbonisation of Australia and the world. 0.30 - Intro to Guest: Sam Lee Mohan, MD & CEO of Frontier EnergySam has 20 years of experience in the energy and utilities industry, including design, construction, strategic asset management, regulation, policy, commercial and innovation. Previous appointments included Global Head of Hydrogen for Xodus Group and Senior Manager for Innovation at ATCO. 1.30 - Intro to Frontier EnergyFrontier Energy is an ASX-listed, renewable energy company, based in WA. Its flagship project is developing a 114MW solar farm, tied to a 36MW (electrolyser) hydrogen production plant at Bristol Springs. Stage one will produce 4.4Mkg of hydrogen p.a., growing to 73Mkg p.a. It will also roll out a re-fuelling station in “the Perth CBD.” Construction begins at the end of this year.  2.48 - Update on the stage of the projectThe project is currently at an advanced stage. The location is one of the fundamental aspects as it is located 120 km south of Perth. It is connected to water and power infrastructure. 5km from major transport routes. The main focus at present is securing offtake. Commissioning is projected for the first half of 2025 and hydrogen production in the latter part of 2025. 4.05 - Deeper dive into the project:Daytime power comes from the solar plant. Off-peak power from the grid, so utilisation is around 75% to achieve the best price/supply combination. The challenge is to develop the right production at the right scale at the right time. In time the 114MW could be scaled up to just over 1GW. Challenge is deploying the right technology, at the right time, at the right scale. 6.19 - Having access to world-class infrastructure is fundamental to kick-starting this industry and having foundation projects the industry can anchor on. 6.45 - Resources:Solar is the cheapest form of energy production at present. Excess Photovoltaic electricity can be sold into the grid, and then drawn back during off-peak periods. LGC (large generation certificates) credits gained from green energy production are retired against the purchase of electricity from the grid, of unknown (green/brown) origin and this creates a net zero footprint. The end result is that low-cost electricity is supplied to the WA grid. We are using the grid as a virtual battery. 9.34 - Access to clean water:The plant is located within a kilometre of the Stirling Trunk Main pipeline, this is one of the most strategic assets across Western Australia. The water is sourced from the Southern Seawater desalination plant and the Southern dam, ensuring a reliable, low-cost supply; this allows a huge saving in desalination and bore (drilling) costs. Future supply has also been secured for the stage one requirements, 750k/l per day actually being four times the need, to 1,250k/l per day for stage 2. So projected growth is catered for and the demands from yet unknown tertiary growth are also covered.   11.30 - Gas:The Dampier - Bunbury pipeline currently transfers offshore natural gas in North Western WA down to the demand areas of Perth & surrounds. It also supplies the huge power needs (with resultant emissions) of the Alcoa smelting plant, downstream from Bristol Springs. The pipeline already has the technical capacity to take in hydrogen from the Frontier Energy plant, without any disruption to its own supply or customers. Statutory changes that will legalise the process are already in advanced stages.      "The political environment is set in order to enable Hydrogen to be projected into the pipeline both from a legal perspective as well a technical perspective." 13.25 - Workforce:The town of Collie (population 8k) is 57 kilometres from the plant. The power station is due to close there and Frontier Energy will be able to offer workers construction jobs (initially) and ongoing jobs at its plant. Other towns are similar distances away and Perth is only a 70-minute drive. Manufacturing hydrogen commercially is difficult because one has to match supply and demand throughout. It’s essential to assist and work with early adopters and the government to ensure that the recipients are not penalised for making staged switches to Hydrogen consumption.  17.10 - Costs:Other green hydrogen producers are quoting potential production costs of over $6 per kilo of hydrogen, compared to Frontier’s of around $2.80 per kg. Income from the exported (to the grid) electricity is used to offset some of the operating costs through the reserved capacity markets. Low-cost electricity supplies the hydrogen plant. This allows a daytime energy input cost that is actually negative. (-$15 a MWh).  Night-time electricity drawdowns cost around $50 - $60 per MWh. The net cost of power for the electrolyser is around $35 per MWh. The solar plant cost $166m and the hydrogen plant $72m. After the CAPEX is paid off, the hydrogen production cost falls to $1.50 per kilo, a rate that is similar to the natural gas equivalent.  With scaling up to 1GW, the operating costs fall further to around $1.30/.20 per kilo. This is fundamental as reduced costs for early users will accelerate uptake and broaden the demand base.  27.02 - Community engagement:Positive feedback as they see possibilities for high-paid, skilled jobs in the community, encouraging retention of youth etc. The project has “State Significant” status with the WA government, with fortnightly meetings. 300 jobs at the construction stage, and 50 in operations. Construction is likely to be ongoing with Stage 2, etc. for the next 5 - 10 years. The hydrogen side is likely to require workers transitioning from electrical etc to the less familiar, new technology, with regulatory, compliance approvals, and engineering challenges. The hydrogen economy is a race, and we are competing with incentivised and supported industries in countries, such as the US and UK. We are well supported by our governments, but project-by-project assistance will be required, or our most skilled people may be tempted abroad.  25.50 - Other learnings to date:Investors are interested, but they need to understand the appropriate risks and incentives. A conducive political environment, and favourable emissions targets from the government making access easily available to new gas and electricity infrastructure, at the time of construction, will make it easier and cheaper for other potential hydrogen producers and this is to be encouraged. A proposed government incentive is being progressed that will require 80% of its 2050 emissions targets to be achieved by 2030. This will incentivise early-stage hydrogen developments. 29.40 - Challenges:"How advanced are you in the maturity of the hydrogen industry?"Hydrogen suppliers need to marry up their supply with nascent demand - the timing of the offtakes. Potential users are looking to the governments for support in the transition and are asking what is available, not just through policies but in an “affordability envelope.” Frontier knows that it can be competitive, but it’s the timing of the offtakes which makes it so much more complicated. 32.30 - Risk sharing:It’s essential. A lot of the super majors have net-zero targets. Frontier sees an opportunity for LNG producers to take on the hydrogen as first movers. What they can then do is claim credits, whilst exporting the LNG. In other words, (in a virtual swap arrangement) they can make a margin on the differential between the two.The LNG companies are hooked into the same pipeline infrastructure, making the flows straightforward. The Bristol Springs plant offers a flexible energy supply, fluctuating with demand. The hydrogen can also be stored in other facilities, such as LNG. Transport infrastructure is adequate to allow hydrogen to be supplied to refuelling stations throughout the state. Bristol Springs is within 70 kilometres of export facilities also.  35.30 - Opportunities from this project:Getting costs down to the $1.20 per kilo level also “unlocks” the ammonia (inc fertiliser) industry. LNG production and power generation probably offer the greatest opportunities. There are significant benefits for the transport industry to pivot into the hydrogen economy. But you need evolution in that economy to generate infrastructure and infrastructure in place to allow evolution, a chicken and egg situation. Again, government assistance is important.  37.00 – Hydrogen demand and potential uses:A possible WA government incentive to require 80% of its own 2050 emissions targets to have been achieved by 2030 is a major benefit for the hydrogen industry. That will create a demand stimulus in the transport industry for trucks, trains, buses, etc. Obviously, truck users, etc will need supply availability and continuity, in other words, industry maturity, to commit to these alternatives. In summary, infrastructure, supply, and the right political setting are all key.  39.10 - Projections:2025 Project phase 1 completion and on their way to 1 GW Hydrogen production. There are plans to develop the CBD project further also. There is the possibility of using the blueprint from Bristol Springs elsewhere, replicating its technological and financial success, and using the knowledge to expedite such a process. 40.10 - Final words:Word to investors. Contact us anytime. Look at the practicality of projects and focus on the consentability and constructability of projects. If they and governments back these projects, it will lower the hurdles for other players to carry the mantle forward, resulting in more players, ideas, supply, competitiveness, etc. The next five years are vital if we are to remain in the race with the US, etc.
Storage, scalability, and speed to market - Endua
Sep 6 2022
Storage, scalability, and speed to market - Endua
In this episode of Exploring Hydrogen, we are joined by Endua’s CEO, Paul Sernia. Andy and Paul talk about Endua pioneering new hydrogen generation and storage technologies that can deliver affordable and reliable renewable energy. Paul explains the parallels between Endua and his previous experience as co-founder and Product Manager of Tritium (who manufacturer fast charging units for electric vehicles), helping take them from start up into being a global player, culminating on listing on the NASDAQ for USD1.3Bn in May 2022.Paul’s Highlights:1:10 – About Endua1:37 – Paul’s background3:15 – The Hydrogen sector and how Endua is solving the energy storage problem.5:30 – About Endua’s power bank7:57 – Endua is building a fully self-contained system that has the ability to expand its’ capacity economically9:35 – Funding for start-ups in Australia and Endua’s partners.11:35 – Focussing on customer’s first is always vital for start-ups 13:30 – Advantage of being based in Queensland15:15 – How do we build local hydrogen supply chains16:35 – Parallel journey with Tritium18:20 – Community and eco-system is key to building a local industry18:54 – Government support for the industry19:55 – Importance of a social licence and engagement23:35 – Speed to market and commercialisation point 25:50 – Endua’s targeted customers 26:59 – Microsoft using hydrogen back-up systems28:55 – The importance of getting involved in the sectorLinksEndua’s website: https://www.endua.com/ Paul’s Bio: https://www.endua.com/team Paul Sernia’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-sernia-212aaa/ Tritium’s website: https://tritiumcharging.com/
Talking Carbon Intensity not Hydrogen ‘Colours’, and an Iterative Approach to the Energy Transition with MAN Energy Solutions.
Aug 19 2022
Talking Carbon Intensity not Hydrogen ‘Colours’, and an Iterative Approach to the Energy Transition with MAN Energy Solutions.
In this episode of Exploring Hydrogen, we are joined by MAN Energy Solutions’ Head of Power Sales Australia and Pacific, Timothy Meyers. Andy and Tim talk about MAN Energy Solutions’ energy transition as well as carbon intensity vs carbon colours and carbon’s value.Tim’s Highlights:1:25 – MAN Energy Solutions the company 1:58 – Marine sector emits 2-3% Global Emissions; MAN’s two stroke engine has a very large portion of this market and therefore has a very big role to play in decarbonisation2:31 – Four major areas of green transitions: inputs, generation, transport and storage, as well as transitioning back into work4:09 – How big is MAN Energy Solutions?4:45 – Tim’s most passionate area – How do we reduce our carbon intensity? 5:41 – Carbon intensity vs carbon colours7:50 – Opens the conversation of customers adding a value on carbon intensity in everyday products9:58 – Alternative fuels – looking at the four major areas of green transitions13:10 – There is not one solution to the carbon dilemma 14:28 – The grouped solutions will also need iterations of contracts and transactions15:20 – Certifications 15:40 – Carbon accounting instead of green accounting 16:30 – Energy efficiencies 17:24 – Deliver energy in a more carbon effective way – needs to be cost effective18:25 – Bill Gates’ book – How to avoid a climate change disaster19:10 – We need to live in today; so that clear actions are taken and started 22:10 – Biggest challenge – At the moment there is no real value in reducing carbon intensity 23:50 – Power industry and industrial industry 24:00 – Power industry needs to ensure that they don’t have stranded assets 25:05 – Industrial industry needs to ensure that they have a viable business plan26:40 – First mover disadvantage 27:25 – Cardon intensity needs to be part of the conversation28:30 – There is a perception that hydrogen is going to be super cheap29:00 – Cost of the projects and cost curves 32:00 – Carbon equalisation tax structure32:20 – Value the carbon itself33:30 – What is Tim excited about? 35:30 – Where does Tim see us in 10 years? LinksMAN Energy Solutions’ website: https://www.man-es.com/ MAN Energy Solutions’ LinkedIn Company Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/company/manenergysolutions/ Timothy Meyers’ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothy-meyers-4935a1145/ Sidenote: Timothy finished working for MAN in August 2022. For any future enquiries about MAN please contact Karl-Heinz Berdais karl-heinz.berdais@man-es.com
Decarbonising 6500 trucks, 41 planes, 1500 forklifts and 2 ships, with Toll Global Express
Jul 29 2022
Decarbonising 6500 trucks, 41 planes, 1500 forklifts and 2 ships, with Toll Global Express
In this episode of Exploring Hydrogen, we are joined by Toll Global Express’s Director of ESG, Heather Bone. Together with Andy, they dive deep into the business’s diverse decarbonisation strategy and the variety of solutions including hydrogen play a part in this. Heather’s Highlights:1:25 – Toll Global Express business overview3:02 – The energy transition of their fleet4:31 – Various solutions for the supply chain5:05 – Allegro and the board’s support paired with CEO Christine Holgate’s passion about decarbonisation6:25 – When is the right time for decarbonisation with a high volume and low margin business?7:55 – Are customers willing to pay a green premium? 9:20 – All bids and tenders have an ESG component including decarbonisation, minimisation of waste, diversity inclusion as well as a priority in local jobs 10:30 – The smallest fleet components first 11:40 – Clean energy regulator is working on a new carbon credit methodology12:40 – EVs for trucks is very complicated – the weight, conditions, productivity, and driver behaviour15:00 – How critical is refuelling time? 16:15 – What does the depot of the future look like?18:15 – Unlikely to see large Hydrogen vehicles in this market until the end of this decade 19:20 – Jobs and skills are a big factor that needs to be considered21:30 – Regulatory body decisions are still a big unknown for the sector22:00 – Decarbonisation is a community effort – working with the entire supply chain 24:00 – Australia is unique with many learnings from other markets not directly translating25:30 – Can’t afford for anyone to fail – creates a chain effect 27:20 – How is Coles, Woolworths, Ikea and Office Works partnering with Toll Global Express?28:30 – Charging stations and hydrogen networks 32:20 – New age cowboys33:00 – What can be achieved in the next 5 years?  34:30 – Vehicle manufacturers’ (OEM) distance to the Australia market35:20 – What makes Heather, as Toll Global Express’s Director of ESG successful? 38:40 – Get in touch; this is a community effort39:30 – Hydrogen Connect Summit 2022About HeatherHeather Bone is Director ESG for Toll Global Express. She has more than 20 years experience in renewable energy, environment and sustainable development, strategic and business development, safety, marketing and communications in mines, energy, waste, transport, logistics and manufacturing in Australia and internationally.LinksToll’s website https://www.tgexpress.com.au Allegro Funds – https://www.allegrofunds.com.au/  Heather Bone’s LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-bone-0ab192b/ Hydrogen Connect Summit 2022 - https://hydrogenconnect.com.au/
Looking to the future with Australia’s largest transport fuels provider, Ampol
May 8 2022
Looking to the future with Australia’s largest transport fuels provider, Ampol
In this episode of Exploring Hydrogen, we are joined by Ampol’s General Manager of Hydrogen, Patrick Luxton. Together with Andy, they will dive deep into the business’s decarbonisation strategy and what role hydrogen plays in this. Patrick’s Highlights:1:06 – Patrick’s career journey so far2:48 – Ampol’s history4:04 – Ampol’s decarbonisation strategy 5:10 – Business-to-business portion of Ampol – approx. 80,000 business customers5:50 – Decarbonisation milestones and progression towards these 6:50 – Overview of Australia’s fuel economy including hydrogen and Ampol’s hydrogen’s positioning9:45 – What is biofuel?10:25 – Potential future market % of different fuels11:15 – Application of hydrogen in the transport sector 13:30 – Refuelling infrastructure overview15:10 – Refuelling infrastructure on the Australian East Coast16:45 – Important lessons from the fuel supply chain 17:30 – Safety elements for hydrogen refuelling18:20 – Supply chain development 20:00 – Challenges of moving towards the decarbonisation 22:10  – Acceptance and understanding of the role of hydrogen; highlighting social licence and engagement 25:40 – Certification scheme for the industry 26:40 – Accelerating the transition28:15 – Workforce requirements to make the transition a reality29:58 – Australia being a leader of fuel cell electric vehicles 30:56 – An enormous undertaking to get to net zero emissions for transportationPatrick Luxton’s BioPatrick is General Manager of Hydrogen at Ampol Australia. The born and bred Kiwi is responsible for growing and transitioning the business’s Australian hydrogen operations. With over 16 + years’ in fuel and energy, Patrick is at the forefront of the business’s decarbonisation strategy and how it will become a reality. LinksAmpol’s website https://www.ampol.com.au/LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/42373409/admin/Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/AmpolAustralia/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ampolaustralia/ Patrick’s LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-luxton-a45b87221/
The Importance of Hydrogen Research, with CSIRO
Apr 4 2022
The Importance of Hydrogen Research, with CSIRO
In this episode of Exploring Hydrogen, we are joined by CSIRO’s Research Director for Energy Technologies Research Program, Daniel Roberts, to learn about the work CSIRO does in the renewable energy space and how they are driving the future for hydrogen advancements in the industry both within Australia and globally. We dive deeper into the National Hydrogen Roadmap, what a potential hydrogen hub looks like and CSIRO’s research into hydrogen priorities, the opportunities that lie ahead and some exciting technological focuses for the organisation. Daniel’s Highlights:1:24 – Daniel’s career journey so far4:05 – Who is CSIRO?5:36 – What is CSIRO doing globally in the hydrogen space?8:03 – The National Hydrogen Release Roadmap and how the nation is aligning over the last 4 years11:16 – Suggestions for hydrogen supply and demand and bringing on end users quicker13:29 – What does the potential hub look like?15:45 – Hydrogen embrittlement and its impact on existing gas networks 17:18 – CSIRO’s research into hydrogen priorities and its opportunities 23:07 – Some of CSIRO’s projects and focuses 25:07 – Efficiency and technological improvements in the electrolyser space28:22 – Gas network opportunities and advancements 29:35 – What does hydrogen-fuelled transportation look like?36:29 – Energy systems and its long-term hydrogen storage38:48 – Hydrogen industrial processes and its advancements, opportunities and potential challenges43:36 – Waste to energy, gasification and the sector’s advancements/value-adds48:36 – Where does Daniel see the renewable energy industry in 5 years?50:17 – How you can follow CSIRO and their research workDaniel Roberts BioDaniel is the Research Director for CSIRO’s Energy Technologies Research Program, where he manages CSIRO’s portfolio of collaborative, industry-focussed RD&D across a range of low-emissions energy technologies including hydrogen, solar, bioenergy, CO2 capture and use, energy storage, and alternative fuels. Most recently he led CSIRO’s Hydrogen Energy Systems Future Science Platform, a broad initiative supporting the long-term success of the emerging hydrogen industry. Daniel has over 25 years research experience in gasification and its applications, having worked on research projects domestically and internationally, and remains a senior researcher in the area of emerging bioenergy pathways.LinksCSIRO’s website https://www.csiro.auHyResource – Hydrogen Project information HyResource (csiro.au)Daniel’s LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/daniel-roberts-csiro
What is Turquoise Hydrogen? A Pathway to Decarbonisation, with Synergen Met.
Mar 22 2022
What is Turquoise Hydrogen? A Pathway to Decarbonisation, with Synergen Met.
In this episode of Exploring Hydrogen, we are joined by Synergen Met’s Chris Dunks, Managing Director and founder, and Vikram Anenden, General Manager of Hydrogen to dive deeper into Turquoise Hydrogen. We learn about Synergen Met as a business and how their methane pyrolysis technology provides a pathway to decarbonisation. We also discuss how turquoise hydrogen technology can leverage existing infrastructure, comparisons between green hydrogen and turquoise, where the team see a high demand for jobs & skills within the hydrogen sector moving forward, the future of Hydrogen within Australia and what Synergen Met is hoping to achieve over the next 5 years.Chris’ & Vikram’s highlights:1:31 – An overview of Synergen Met3:26 – What is turquoise hydrogen and are there any by-products?6:28 – Synergen Met’s hydrogen technology processes and its advantages. 8:18 – What does a unit of hydrogen look like and how much is produced?11:04 – Breaking down methane gas states12:17 – Uses of carbon black 13:09 – Carbon revenue streams vs hydrogen revenue streams 14:08 – Comparison of technology between turquoise hydrogen and green hydrogen from solar/wind.16:03 – Challenges within the Synergen Met business and how they are overcome 19:03 – The main demand for jobs and skills within the hydrogen sector20:36 – Looking into the future of Hydrogen within Australia 24:03 – What is Synergen Met hoping to achieve over the next 5 years?26:30 – PFAS - Other exciting uses of Synergen Met’s technology 29:40 – What does success look like for the hydrogen sector?33:06 – A final word from Chris & Vikram Christopher Dunks Bio:BEng(Mech)Christopher is a founding shareholder of the Company.Christopher has spent the past 26 years working on major minerals processing, refining, power, industrial technology and software development projects both in Australia and the USA. Christopher was a Founder and Executive Director of ASX-listed Elementos Ltd (ASX:ELT). Christopher’s experience is in mechanical design, construction management and supervision, project controls, project management, contract negotiation, business development and new technology commercialisation.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-dunks-b2679a8/Vikram Anenden Bio:Vikram brings 17 years of operational experience in commercial and technical roles with Tier 1 energy power operators and utilities. His professional interests span from asset management, corporate evaluation, commercial law, economic modelling to sustainable energy investments. As an engineer with economics and legal interest, he is committed to influencing policies and developing commercial strategies towards the decarbonisation of the intensive carbon emitting industry he belongs to.Synergen Met Website: https://www.synergenmet.com/
Hydrogen gas blending advances. Mega energy storage. And how Formula One is contributing to hydrogen innovations
Jan 18 2022
Hydrogen gas blending advances. Mega energy storage. And how Formula One is contributing to hydrogen innovations
This week's energising journey is led by two leaders within the renewable gas business at Jemena. Gabrielle Sycamore, General Manager Renewable Gas, is leading the implementation of the gas network’s long term decarbonisation strategy, and Alister Wardrope the Technical Lead for Renewable Gas, who has been working on the technical development of Australia’s first hydrogen and biomethane projects co-funded by ARENA. Jemena owns and operates a diverse portfolio of energy assets across northern Australia and Australia's east coast. They operate more than $11 billion worth of major utility infrastructure and are backed by the resources of shareholders, State Grid Corporation of China and Singapore Power. Jemena accounts for a variety of assets, but ultimately provides central services supporting the uptake of renewable energy in city developments and contributing to Australia’s the long-term transitional future to renewables, including hydrogen and biomethane projects. 1:16 - Alistair and Gabby’s journey to Jemena and ancestry in the energy industry 3:20 - About Future Fuels Cooperative Research Centre4:20 - Biomethane production process4:35 - Overview of Jemena 6:54 - What’s the renewable gas team at Jemena working on?7:57 - Rundown of the Western Sydney Green Gas Project  9:29 - 5-year test program 11:11 - What percentage of gas is blended at WSGP12:00 - MOU with Hyundai and Core Gas and what the off take will be used for?13:55 - The challenges overcome with the Western Sydney Green Gas Project16:22 - Characteristics of Hydrogen and how is Jemena working to make commercial Hydrogen safe.17:28 - Beyond 2030 - How do we get to pure hydrogen through the gas network?20:15 - What broader changes would you like to see for the hydrogen industry? 23:50 - Hydrogen vs Electrification 25:10 - Production prices of hydrogen26:30 - How much additional storage do you envisage for the future?28:00 - Sewage to energy: Malabar Biomethane Project29:40 - Certification, International Collaboration and ISO standards30:05 - Jemena’s 5-year look-ahead34:33 - Innovative developments – the imperative need to adapt and modify 39:10 - Formula One and net zeroLinks:Keep in the loop with Jemena’s innovations in renewable gas: Innovation - JemenaGabrielle SycamoreGabrielle is an experienced senior commercial manager specialising in leading teams, managing complex commercial projects and enhancing commercial outcomes.  With 16 years’ experience in the energy sector, Gabrielle also has expertise in finance and business development. Gabrielle Sycamore is General Manager – Renewable Gas at Jemena, where she is leading the implementation of the gas networks long term decarbonisation strategy. This includes collaborating with gas users, industry partners and governments to accelerate the integration of renewable gases into the gas network and enabling future network products and services. Gabrielle sits on the boards of Bioenergy Australia and the Future Fuels CRC and is a member of the Energy Networks Australia Gas Committee and Australian Hydrogen Centre. She has a Masters of Business Administration from Deakin University, a Bachelor of Commerce from Curtin University and is a Graduate member of the Australian Institute of Directors.Alistair Wardrope:Alistair is a Mechanical Engineer with 15 years professional experience working in the energy industry, starting his career with a well-known British electrolyser manufacturer in 2006, he has been involved in evolving renewable hydrogen technologies since.  He has worked on major European power generation utility projects including nuclear, biomass, offshore wind and solar and more recently energy distribution with Jemena. In his role as Technical Lead – Renewable Gases, Alistair has been actively involved in the technical development of Australia’s first hydrogen and biomethane projects co-funded by ARENA.  He has been continually active on a range of industrial and academic platforms, ranging from introducing hydrogen and electric vehicles to the IMechE formula student in the UK establishing some of the earliest zero emission motorsport events.  Alistair is also an industry lead contributing to the Future Fuels CRC and is actively engaged in developing Australian Standards
Green Hydrogen for Transportation Getting Real - Hiringa
Jan 10 2022
Green Hydrogen for Transportation Getting Real - Hiringa
In this episode of Exploring Hydrogen, we are transported across the ditch to New Zealand to learn how Andrew Clennett Co-founder and CEO of Hiringa Energy is developing one of the world’s first nationwide green hydrogen refueling networks, and how this transferable model can transform Australia and Southeast Asia’s transition to hydrogen.With Andrew’s 25 years of international experience in the energy sector, senior management roles and executive roles in multinational energy companies, Andrew provides valuable insights into Hiringa’s innovative developments and 5-year plan in the hydrogen refueling sector, and New Zealand and Australia’s hydrogen landscape.Hiringa Energy is a clean hydrogen company focused on developing the hydrogen value chain to assist  decarbonisation at scale, this is being pursued via the heavy transport area in Australia and New Zealand.  The Hiringa team borrows heavily from energy, oil and gas backgrounds and clean tech skills and techno-economics in order to excel the uptake of hydrogen in refueling heavy vehicles. To demonstrate the efficiency of emissions reduction in the heavy transport sector - the volume of CO2 reduced by one hydrogen powered truck is equivalent to 150 cars’ emissions. Hiringa acknowledges the need for meaningful partnerships in the transition to new energy and developing investable propositions – the energy to change, together.1:30 - About Hiringa - developing the hydrogen value chain and commercialising green energy4:30 - Hiringa’s heat map and refueling stations roll out across New Zealand 6:30 - Efficient capital to emission reduction: high capacity refueling back-to-back – 100 heavy vehicles a day, 10-15min to refuel large vehicles11:45 - Beyond heavy transportation sector, what other areas is Hiringa locking into? The benefits of variety of energy trading 16:21 - Unlocking the commercialisation of hydrogen and accelerating demand, up against the 150 years of economy of scale24:10 - Potential for seasonal storage of hydrogen in New Zealand - virtual battery26:36 - Potential for green ammonia powering sea vessels and assisting transport of hydrogen overseas29:30 - Why is New Zealand’s green transport more advanced than Australia and many nations? First mover advantage, government policy and the ecosystem33:30 - Nimble business environment in New Zealand – promotes elegant business strategy for hydrogen development35:00 - What policy and business strategy changes would you like to see in Australia?37:50 - The path to co-founding Hiringa... Silicon Valley style set up44:45 - Five-year aspirations for Hiringa - strong refueling network growth in New Zealand, and across to Australia and beyond...48:30 - How can Australia become a leader in hydrogen 50:10 - Together is the way towards decarbonisation Andrew’ Bio:Andrew is a co-founder and CEO of Hiringa Energy, a company actively developing green hydrogen infrastructure across New Zealand and Australia including one of the world’s first nation-wide green hydrogen refuelling networks. He has over 25 years of international experience in the energy sector having held a number of senior management and executive roles in multinational energy companies. Andrew holds a Bachelor of Mechanical/Electrical Engineering and is a board member of the New Zealand Hydrogen Council. As CEO of Hiringa Energy he has worked to bring the hydrogen opportunity to the forefront in the energy transition, bridging new energy models with the existing industries and building partnerships across sectors. His passion is to unlock commerciality and accelerate our transition to zero emission energy systems.Andrew Clennett LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-clennett-81bbb4/Hiringa LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hiringa-energy-ltd/Hiringa Website: www.hiringa.co.nz
The world’s first commercially available integrated Hydrogen Battery – LAVO
Nov 25 2021
The world’s first commercially available integrated Hydrogen Battery – LAVO
In this episode of Exploring Hydrogen, we are joined by Chief Operating Officer at LAVO, Jacques Markgraaff to learn how LAVO is commercialising the storage of hydrogen and democratising and decentralising energy for local businesses and homes. With Jacques’ 20 years experience in strategy, corporate development, business transformation his role at LAVO straddles the whole value chain: corporate development, investment, R&D; Jacques provides insight into LAVO’s hydrogen storage developments and outlook for the next 2 years, hydrogen industry updates, and the advantages of hydrogen in comparison to lithium batteries. LAVO is a venture between Provenance Asset Group, an ESG dedicated firm, and UNSW’s hydrogen center, LAVO is the world’s first technology and lifestyle brand powered by green hydrogen. Named in honour of Antoine Lavoisier, the French chemist who identified Hydrogen and nicknamed the father of modern-day chemistry, LAVO’s aims to power the world with limitless energy.  1:00 - About LAVO – world’s first technology and lifestyle brand powered by green Hydrogen ‘powering the world with limitless energy’ 4:15 - Appearance of LAVO. Metal hydride storage units and the home and business applications 9:14 - LAVO unit residential application  10:14 - LAVO’s strategic priorities across different markets of residential, telecommunication towers, commercial and off grid back up – 5 units across 5 states 13:45 - HEOS unit for solar and wind farms: 13 MWh system. 18T metal hydride. Generating green hydrogen 15:40 - HEOS - advantageous for the defense sector 17:05 - LAVO’s goals for the next 2 years – commercial focus 20:52 - Fuel cell project in Springfield manufacturing facility joint venture with Nedstack  23:00 - How can Australia drive advanced manufacturing and benefit from exporting renewable technologies? 24:20 - Industry-wide policies that would assist the growth of the hydrogen sector 26:45 - State collaborations to avoid potential regulation issues 28:05 - Unit water usage – a little goes a long way 29:20 - Why would a consumer choose a LAVO’s unit over a battery? Energy security, safety, sustainability, lifespan, scalability, lifetime cost comparison 30:55 -  Sustainability and efficiency comparison: LAVO unit vs lithium battery 39:10 - Most exciting advancements in the hydrogen sector  Jacques' Bio:Jacques Markgraaff is an accomplished executive with over 20 years’ experience in strategy and corporate development and business transformation combined with breadth in commercial and sales management across multiple industries. Prior to joining LAVO as the Chief Operating Officer he was the Executive Advisor at Providence Asset Group the primary investor in the company. Jacques has worked internationally for some of the world’s leading management consulting, financial services and CPG companies with a successful track record of achieving a balance of breakthrough commercial, strategic and customer results. Jacques is a passionate campaigner for growing the top and bottom line through purpose driven innovation and sustainability centered design while transforming the customer experience using disruptive digital technologies. Jacques holds a Bachelor of Commerce and Law degree and an MBA from Imperial College London. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquesmarkgraaff/Website: https://lavo.com.au/
Space. Infrastructure. And novel Hydrogen uses you may not have thought about
Nov 1 2021
Space. Infrastructure. And novel Hydrogen uses you may not have thought about
In this episode of Exploring Hydrogen, we are joined by Chris Dolman, Business Development Manager of Clean Hydrogen at BOC South Pacific. We learn about The Hydrogen Rainbow, different sectors for Hydrogen projects, BOC’s current (and previous) hydrogen activity/projects, see how space and infrastructure are changing the hydrogen game and dive into the 5-year outlook on the Hydrogen industry in Australia.   Chris’ highlights:  1:36 - The Hydrogen Rainbow   4:51 - Hydrogen Launching into the space sector   11:26 - What more could the Australian Government do to support a transition to Hydrogen?  14:15 - The 5-year outlook for Australia’s Hydrogen industry  18:02 – Hydrogen storage, projects and technology on a large scale 21:00 - Weird and wonderful Hydrogen approaches 21:51 – Current BOC Hydrogen activity 24:56 - Adapting skills from other sectors in recent projects during Covid-19 27:18 – Hydrogen technology in vehicles 30:16 - How can Australia (and its standards) assist the industry to grow? 15:38 – Exportation and infrastructure opportunities on an international level 39:21 – Aviation, shipping and Hydrogen  41:49 - Chris’ final message to listeners  Chris Dolman Bio:  Chris Dolman is Business Manager, Clean Energy for BOC South Pacific.  Chris holds degrees in Bachelor Business Administration and Bachelor of Arts (Psychology) from Macquarie University and a Diploma in Marketing from Cambridge Marketing College.  Chris has worked for BOC since 2004 both in South Pacific and in the United Kingdom and has held a number of roles across product and marketing management, business development, acquisitions, sales and health & safety during this time. He has extensive experience in the applications of gas across key growth sectors including universities and research, agriculture and clean energy.  Chris has been led key Hydrogen Product Stewardship initiatives with Hydrogen deemed a Controlled Substance in Australian states as well as creating tools to allow hydrogen safety assessments and business case development. He has also been involved in new hydrogen applications from Mobility to Energy and customer specific applications.  Chris is an active member of the NERA hydrogen clusters as well as various state based Zero Emission working groups. This allows Chris to bring an extended network to any board positions including project developers and members of Standards Australia for Hydrogen and the Australian New Zealand Industrial Gas Association which has been working with hydrogen safely and effectively for decades.   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-dolman-b2509710/?originalSubdomain=au
Building a Queensland renewable Hydrogen powerhouse – Stanwell Corporation
Nov 1 2021
Building a Queensland renewable Hydrogen powerhouse – Stanwell Corporation
In this episode of Exploring Hydrogen, we are joined by Phil Richardson, General Manager of New Energy Projects at Stanwell Corporation to discuss what it takes to build a Queensland renewable Hydrogen Powerhouse. We learn more about Stanwell Corporation’s Hydrogen sector and other renewable energy sources, current and upcoming projects, the renewable energy supply chain and some of their joint venture partnerships. Phil also sheds a light on which industries he sees future jobs coming from, collaborations and partnerships needed within the community, what needs to change to support Australia’s Hydrogen decarbonisation ambitions, current costings for green hydrogen vs long term targets and what success looks like in 5-years for himself and Stanwell Corporation.   Phil’s Highlights:  2:26 - Phil's contribution to the Queensland Government and the transition into the commercial renewable energy space with Stanwell Corporation 3:33 - Stanwell Corporation – a leading energy provider for Queensland  4:30 - The split between solar and wind projects at Stanwell Corporation  5:21 – How is Hydrogen fitting into the energy mix at Stanwell Corporation? 7:34 - Stanwell Corporation’s geographic focus and projects within 8:32 - Joint venture partners in Japan and Australia10:10 - The renewable energy supply chain – advancements and challenges  12:23 - Opportunities for job seekers in the renewable energy sectors 13:53 - Stanwell Corporation’s phase 1 wind and solar project in Queensland 15:57 - Green vs Blue Hydrogen (and the rest of the Hydrogen Rainbow)  17:49 - What has not aligned with Stanwell Corporation’s risk profile and direction of business? 19:24 - Getting the wheels turning on the exciting renewable energy projects and what it takes to make them happen 21:23 – Lessons learnt from the recent LNG cycle and how Stanwell Corporation are navigating the social licence and the partnerships within the community moving forward 24:15 – Ammonia, compressed Hydrogen gas and liquified Hydrogen mechanism mediums for exportation purposes and their benefits vs challenges  26:36 - Australia’s Hydrogen decarbonisation ambitions – funding, policy changes and taxation changes 28:30 - Producing green hydrogen and its current costings vs long term targets 29:45 – Where Phil sees Hydrogen and decarbonisation in the future and hopes for Australia’s renewable energy sectors 31:43 - What does success look like for Phil (and Stanwell Corporation) in 5-years time? 33:26 - The unprecedented hype in the Hydrogen sector right now 35:08 – Aviation and battery electric vehicles vs fuel cell electric vehicles  36:23 - Phil’s final message to the audience   Phil Richardson Bio:  Phil has 15 years experience in developing strategy and executing commercial projects and economic policy reforms, with a focus on the energy sector. As General Manager New Energy Projects at Stanwell, Phil’s role is to deliver a range of renewable energy, energy storage and hydrogen projects as part of Stanwell’s portfolio strategy. Prior to joining Stanwell, Phil held roles in the Queensland Government, including General Manager renewable energy and energy pricing in the department of energy and Director Economic Policy in the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. In 2008, Phil spent a year working in the Pacific Islands with the United Nations Development Programme. Phil holds a Master of International Economics and Finance, Master of Governance and Public Policy and Bachelor of Arts from the University of Queensland.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phil-richardson-42525121/  Stanwell Corporation Website: www.stanwell.com  Stanwell Corporation LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/stanwell-corporation-limited/
An Introduction to Hydrogen Energy and the importance of social licence
Nov 1 2021
An Introduction to Hydrogen Energy and the importance of social licence
In the first episode of Exploring Hydrogen, we are joined by globally recognised Professor Peta Ashworth OAM, Director of the Andrew N. Liveris Academy for Innovation and Leadership, Chair in Sustainable Energy Futures at The University of Queensland (UQ), and Chair of the Queensland Hydrogen Taskforce. During this podcast we learn about all things Hydrogen as an introduction, Peta’s clean energy journey and her current roles, the Queensland Hydrogen Taskforce’s work, the importance of social licence and building trust within communities, Queensland’s competitive advantage and where Peta sees her success in the coming years.   Peta’s highlights:  2:00 - Peta’s current clean energy roles with the industries she works with  3:34 - More about the Queensland Hydrogen Taskforce  6:08 – Social identity in the renewable energy sectors 8:21 - Current public perceptions of Hydrogen and its safety 10:50 – So what is Hydrogen Energy, why now and net zero emissions by 2050 19:16 - The route straight to “green” – is it achievable? 23:13 - Exporting opportunities – molecules, skills & technologies   28:26 - Industries building trust within the community and the importance of collaboration  32:55 - What is Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS) and its challenges / advancements?  38:41: Queensland’s competitive advantage in developing the Hydrogen industry 40:54 - Queensland’s Hydrogen and Decarbonisation sectors – new opportunities & changes 42:03 - What does success look like for Peta in 5 years? 43:16 - Jobs that are going to be highly sought after in the Hydrogen space 45:09 - How can we participate and contribute to the industry?   Peta Ashworth OAM Bio: Professor Peta Ashworth OAM is the Director of the Andrew N. Liveris Academy for Innovation and Leadership, Chair in Sustainable Energy Futures at The University of Queensland (UQ), and Chair of the Queensland Hydrogen Taskforce. Professor Ashworth brings over thirty years’ experience working in a range of senior management, consulting and research roles. Prior to joining UQ in 2016, Peta worked as a consultant to industry, as Research Group Leader at CSIRO, and in senior executive roles for the Body Shop. Professor Ashworth is a globally-recognised expert in the fields of energy, communication, stakeholder engagement, and technology assessment. For almost two decades, Peta has been researching public attitudes toward climate and energy technologies, including wind, carbon capture and storage (CCS), solar photovoltaic, storage and geothermal. An accomplished speaker and facilitator, Professor Ashworth is actively involved in building energy literacy more broadly both within Australian and globally, and regularly provides input to policy briefings, think tanks, as well as educational events for the benefit of the broader community. Peta’s contributions to the field of sustainable energy include leading the social science research program of the Global Carbon Capture and Storage Institute, as well as working alongside Australia’s Chief Scientist in the development of Australia’s National Hydrogen Strategy.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peta-ashworth-oam-5502002/  Resources:  https://alumni.uq.edu.au/liveris-academy https://energy.uq.edu.au/ https://www.epw.qld.gov.au/about/initiatives/hydrogen/taskforce https://www.globalccsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Global-CCS-Institute-Fact-Sheet_What-is-CCS.pdf